Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Good for you, Maggie. You went into the meeting educated and knowing what you wanted. I think it's a shame that the teacher can't mark off some boxes for you. We have a communication book problem with our school. They llike to send home a little sticker saying " I had a good day " and call it communication. Ha! It sounds like you got a lot though and like you have some people on your side. You did a good job. Tamara mom to Ebony, 5 years old, asd, adhd, bipolar and , 2, polish (lol) wife to Terry >From: autumnindigo@... >Reply-To: parenting_autism >To: parenting_autism >Subject: IEP meeting from Hades >Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:29:26 -0400 > >'s IEP meeting was today. The participants were: Mrs. Lussier >(school principal), Mrs. ('s primary teacher), Mrs. >(interpreter), lie Nagler (occupational therapist), Libby >(speech therapist), Dr. Goodrich ('s psychologist), Jo (Family >Resource Center Director and friend), and me. Mrs. Sutton (reading >specialist) and Mrs. Bowers (third grade teacher) made brief cameos. The >first hour, which essentially involved reporting 's progress, went >smoothly. I have learned not to argue with test results, because >although they don't reflect 's knowledge and ability, his skills do >not exist unless he performs them at school. Dr. Goodrich exited after >the first hour…her presence was actually quite nice, since she >essentially listened and then complimented the school performances on >their work with . Sadly, it was the second hour that was MOST >dramatic. > >Mrs. reviewed HER goals for for next year. I had minor >corrections, but I was agreeable. And then I did the dastardly deed…I >introduced my spreadsheet for 's goals ('s idea). >Essentially, it required that Mrs. check off each day which IEP >goals had worked on. This information IS NOT given to me on his >daily note typically. I made it clear that I would provide the sheets >each week and that I wanted the information simply to have a better >knowledge of 's day, which would determine which skills I would >focus on in the evening. Mrs. flat out refused to do this. She >said she conveys enough information to me, that I am only required to >have IEP goal information every nine weeks during report card time, and >that she has nine other children whose needs she must attend to. I >pursued this, because I was puzzled why it was so difficult for her to >check off boxes. Even Mrs. Lussier seemed a bit perturbed by Mrs. ' >response. I am certain that I conveyed my disappointment and frustration >(I was chewing on a pen cap which cracked in half during this time), but >I finally said, " I'm not going to get this. Let's move on. " And at this >point, Mrs. checked out emotionally from the meeting. She made >little contributions to further discussion, busying herself with her many >papers. So Mrs. Lussier and I led the meeting…wait, I should correct >myself. Mrs. made little contribution except to veto all my >requests. > >Next, lie made a strong case for sensory integration for . I >was hesitant to work with her at first, since I considered her lazy, but >I have corrected those wrong impressions. She worked damn hard to >evaluate for SI and to advocate for him to have this during the >meeting. No comment from Mrs. . She was looking for a piece of >paper she had neglected to bring to the meeting. will have OT >focusing on sensory integration for an hour a week, to be scheduled when >school resumes. YAY! > >I next asked that 's IEP contain a sign language goal. Nope, said >Mrs. . He has a reading program and other programs during which he >can learn sign. I pointed that that much of 's difficulty in >communication is a result of insufficient sign vocabulary. Even though I >study signs every day, I am not fluent, and it is difficult to learn on >one's own. So Libby took over, since it is a communications goal. She >wrote the goal so that would learn signs to reflect social studies >and science curriculum. I KNEW there was no way I would get social >studies and science goals, but Mrs. Lussier promised I can borrow >textbooks….joy, I get to teach all that he's missed. But I was so >glad that Libby stepped in--for whatever reason, Mrs. defers to >her. > >Finally, cringing inwardly, I requested that be included in third >grade recess. 's special ed class doesn't have recess (some >nonsense about having difficulty getting the children in wheelchairs >outside), and I believe it's a wonderful opportunity for to play >with his NT peers. Nope, said Mrs. . Recess would be during >'s reading time, and Maggie, if you want one thing, you have to >give up another. I said, Mrs. , surely you don't think I would >sacrifice 's reading for recess. At this point I was ready to >lunge across the table to throttle her and put her out of everyone's >misery. Mrs. Lussier stepped in--she assured me that a compromise can be >made, that can have recess at least twice a week, that she will >check classroom schedules and we can decide next year when he will be >included. Mrs. Lussier will do this. She does what she says she will >do, and she rather adores my boy. > >At one point during the meeting, I pointed out to Mrs. that >has chunks of time in his day when nothing of particular importance is >occurring. For example, he doesn't need to watch Nickelodeon at school. >(Between 1130 and 12, the kids watch Nick. Every time I go into the >classroom at this time the TV is tuned to that channel.) SO, the last >thing Mrs. says to me, in an extremely snotty voice, is " We hardly >ever watch Nickelodeon. The kids watch educational programs. " Well, I >suppose one could consider Blue's Clues educational. > >I know Mrs. is very unhappy with me. To her, I am like chalk >across a blackboard, and vice versa. However, I only want what is best >for --my motivation is not to make her school life hell. Although >at this point, if that occurs too, who am I to quibble? I cannot express >how grateful I am that Mrs. Lussier and Libby were there, particularly >Mrs. Lussier. She is a great advocate for , and I specifically >asked her to be at the IEP meeting, to make every effort to attend, >because I knew Mrs. would deny my input. Before I left the school, >Mrs. Lussier patted my arm and said, " Don't worry, Maggie. We'll get >everything together for you. " And I know that she will. > >Mrs. IS a wonderful teacher-- has made tremendous strides in >her classroom. And it is not my wish to alienate her. I just want what >is best for . But I'm sure at this point, Mrs. has laminated >my photo and is throwing darts at it. > >Maggie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Good for you, Maggie. You went into the meeting educated and knowing what you wanted. I think it's a shame that the teacher can't mark off some boxes for you. We have a communication book problem with our school. They llike to send home a little sticker saying " I had a good day " and call it communication. Ha! It sounds like you got a lot though and like you have some people on your side. You did a good job. Tamara mom to Ebony, 5 years old, asd, adhd, bipolar and , 2, polish (lol) wife to Terry >From: autumnindigo@... >Reply-To: parenting_autism >To: parenting_autism >Subject: IEP meeting from Hades >Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 20:29:26 -0400 > >'s IEP meeting was today. The participants were: Mrs. Lussier >(school principal), Mrs. ('s primary teacher), Mrs. >(interpreter), lie Nagler (occupational therapist), Libby >(speech therapist), Dr. Goodrich ('s psychologist), Jo (Family >Resource Center Director and friend), and me. Mrs. Sutton (reading >specialist) and Mrs. Bowers (third grade teacher) made brief cameos. The >first hour, which essentially involved reporting 's progress, went >smoothly. I have learned not to argue with test results, because >although they don't reflect 's knowledge and ability, his skills do >not exist unless he performs them at school. Dr. Goodrich exited after >the first hour…her presence was actually quite nice, since she >essentially listened and then complimented the school performances on >their work with . Sadly, it was the second hour that was MOST >dramatic. > >Mrs. reviewed HER goals for for next year. I had minor >corrections, but I was agreeable. And then I did the dastardly deed…I >introduced my spreadsheet for 's goals ('s idea). >Essentially, it required that Mrs. check off each day which IEP >goals had worked on. This information IS NOT given to me on his >daily note typically. I made it clear that I would provide the sheets >each week and that I wanted the information simply to have a better >knowledge of 's day, which would determine which skills I would >focus on in the evening. Mrs. flat out refused to do this. She >said she conveys enough information to me, that I am only required to >have IEP goal information every nine weeks during report card time, and >that she has nine other children whose needs she must attend to. I >pursued this, because I was puzzled why it was so difficult for her to >check off boxes. Even Mrs. Lussier seemed a bit perturbed by Mrs. ' >response. I am certain that I conveyed my disappointment and frustration >(I was chewing on a pen cap which cracked in half during this time), but >I finally said, " I'm not going to get this. Let's move on. " And at this >point, Mrs. checked out emotionally from the meeting. She made >little contributions to further discussion, busying herself with her many >papers. So Mrs. Lussier and I led the meeting…wait, I should correct >myself. Mrs. made little contribution except to veto all my >requests. > >Next, lie made a strong case for sensory integration for . I >was hesitant to work with her at first, since I considered her lazy, but >I have corrected those wrong impressions. She worked damn hard to >evaluate for SI and to advocate for him to have this during the >meeting. No comment from Mrs. . She was looking for a piece of >paper she had neglected to bring to the meeting. will have OT >focusing on sensory integration for an hour a week, to be scheduled when >school resumes. YAY! > >I next asked that 's IEP contain a sign language goal. Nope, said >Mrs. . He has a reading program and other programs during which he >can learn sign. I pointed that that much of 's difficulty in >communication is a result of insufficient sign vocabulary. Even though I >study signs every day, I am not fluent, and it is difficult to learn on >one's own. So Libby took over, since it is a communications goal. She >wrote the goal so that would learn signs to reflect social studies >and science curriculum. I KNEW there was no way I would get social >studies and science goals, but Mrs. Lussier promised I can borrow >textbooks….joy, I get to teach all that he's missed. But I was so >glad that Libby stepped in--for whatever reason, Mrs. defers to >her. > >Finally, cringing inwardly, I requested that be included in third >grade recess. 's special ed class doesn't have recess (some >nonsense about having difficulty getting the children in wheelchairs >outside), and I believe it's a wonderful opportunity for to play >with his NT peers. Nope, said Mrs. . Recess would be during >'s reading time, and Maggie, if you want one thing, you have to >give up another. I said, Mrs. , surely you don't think I would >sacrifice 's reading for recess. At this point I was ready to >lunge across the table to throttle her and put her out of everyone's >misery. Mrs. Lussier stepped in--she assured me that a compromise can be >made, that can have recess at least twice a week, that she will >check classroom schedules and we can decide next year when he will be >included. Mrs. Lussier will do this. She does what she says she will >do, and she rather adores my boy. > >At one point during the meeting, I pointed out to Mrs. that >has chunks of time in his day when nothing of particular importance is >occurring. For example, he doesn't need to watch Nickelodeon at school. >(Between 1130 and 12, the kids watch Nick. Every time I go into the >classroom at this time the TV is tuned to that channel.) SO, the last >thing Mrs. says to me, in an extremely snotty voice, is " We hardly >ever watch Nickelodeon. The kids watch educational programs. " Well, I >suppose one could consider Blue's Clues educational. > >I know Mrs. is very unhappy with me. To her, I am like chalk >across a blackboard, and vice versa. However, I only want what is best >for --my motivation is not to make her school life hell. Although >at this point, if that occurs too, who am I to quibble? I cannot express >how grateful I am that Mrs. Lussier and Libby were there, particularly >Mrs. Lussier. She is a great advocate for , and I specifically >asked her to be at the IEP meeting, to make every effort to attend, >because I knew Mrs. would deny my input. Before I left the school, >Mrs. Lussier patted my arm and said, " Don't worry, Maggie. We'll get >everything together for you. " And I know that she will. > >Mrs. IS a wonderful teacher-- has made tremendous strides in >her classroom. And it is not my wish to alienate her. I just want what >is best for . But I'm sure at this point, Mrs. has laminated >my photo and is throwing darts at it. > >Maggie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Thank you, Tamara. Although does come home with a brief daily note, I wanted accountability for the IEP goals. And, well, Mrs. liked that idea about as much as she likes me observing the classroom. I appreciate your complimet...aww, shucks, I'm blushing. Maggie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Thank you, Tamara. Although does come home with a brief daily note, I wanted accountability for the IEP goals. And, well, Mrs. liked that idea about as much as she likes me observing the classroom. I appreciate your complimet...aww, shucks, I'm blushing. Maggie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2003 Report Share Posted May 12, 2003 Is Ms going to be the teacher next year? You could also ask for communications reasons if she would answer two questions about his day? I use to ask who did I sit next to at circle time and what did I do at recess. It gave us a questions to work on answering and that went very well. Now that is in a typical preschool I find out what job she did at circle time and usually what she ate for snack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 I really dont know what to say. Sorry things were such a struggle but it sounds like overall you will get most of what you want. Me? I am a pain in the ass at IEPs. Everyone around here knows it. People I have never met before have heard of me. It's true. I wonder if that is a bad thing? Oh well. But I get all that I want or I don't sign and we walk. So far I have gotten what I want everytime. It may take about 5 IEPs to do it but it gets done and I sign nothing until then and have booted certain people from attending IEPs. My kids education and resources and their needs getting met brings out the bitch in me. Jacquie H IEP meeting from Hades 's IEP meeting was today. The participants were: Mrs. Lussier (school principal), Mrs. ('s primary teacher), Mrs. (interpreter), lie Nagler (occupational therapist), Libby (speech therapist), Dr. Goodrich ('s psychologist), Jo (Family Resource Center Director and friend), and me. Mrs. Sutton (reading specialist) and Mrs. Bowers (third grade teacher) made brief cameos. The first hour, which essentially involved reporting 's progress, went smoothly. I have learned not to argue with test results, because although they don't reflect 's knowledge and ability, his skills do not exist unless he performs them at school. Dr. Goodrich exited after the first hour.her presence was actually quite nice, since she essentially listened and then complimented the school performances on their work with . Sadly, it was the second hour that was MOST dramatic. Mrs. reviewed HER goals for for next year. I had minor corrections, but I was agreeable. And then I did the dastardly deed.I introduced my spreadsheet for 's goals ('s idea). Essentially, it required that Mrs. check off each day which IEP goals had worked on. This information IS NOT given to me on his daily note typically. I made it clear that I would provide the sheets each week and that I wanted the information simply to have a better knowledge of 's day, which would determine which skills I would focus on in the evening. Mrs. flat out refused to do this. She said she conveys enough information to me, that I am only required to have IEP goal information every nine weeks during report card time, and that she has nine other children whose needs she must attend to. I pursued this, because I was puzzled why it was so difficult for her to check off boxes. Even Mrs. Lussier seemed a bit perturbed by Mrs. ' response. I am certain that I conveyed my disappointment and frustration (I was chewing on a pen cap which cracked in half during this time), but I finally said, " I'm not going to get this. Let's move on. " And at this point, Mrs. checked out emotionally from the meeting. She made little contributions to further discussion, busying herself with her many papers. So Mrs. Lussier and I led the meeting.wait, I should correct myself. Mrs. made little contribution except to veto all my requests. Next, lie made a strong case for sensory integration for . I was hesitant to work with her at first, since I considered her lazy, but I have corrected those wrong impressions. She worked damn hard to evaluate for SI and to advocate for him to have this during the meeting. No comment from Mrs. . She was looking for a piece of paper she had neglected to bring to the meeting. will have OT focusing on sensory integration for an hour a week, to be scheduled when school resumes. YAY! I next asked that 's IEP contain a sign language goal. Nope, said Mrs. . He has a reading program and other programs during which he can learn sign. I pointed that that much of 's difficulty in communication is a result of insufficient sign vocabulary. Even though I study signs every day, I am not fluent, and it is difficult to learn on one's own. So Libby took over, since it is a communications goal. She wrote the goal so that would learn signs to reflect social studies and science curriculum. I KNEW there was no way I would get social studies and science goals, but Mrs. Lussier promised I can borrow textbooks..joy, I get to teach all that he's missed. But I was so glad that Libby stepped in--for whatever reason, Mrs. defers to her. Finally, cringing inwardly, I requested that be included in third grade recess. 's special ed class doesn't have recess (some nonsense about having difficulty getting the children in wheelchairs outside), and I believe it's a wonderful opportunity for to play with his NT peers. Nope, said Mrs. . Recess would be during 's reading time, and Maggie, if you want one thing, you have to give up another. I said, Mrs. , surely you don't think I would sacrifice 's reading for recess. At this point I was ready to lunge across the table to throttle her and put her out of everyone's misery. Mrs. Lussier stepped in--she assured me that a compromise can be made, that can have recess at least twice a week, that she will check classroom schedules and we can decide next year when he will be included. Mrs. Lussier will do this. She does what she says she will do, and she rather adores my boy. At one point during the meeting, I pointed out to Mrs. that has chunks of time in his day when nothing of particular importance is occurring. For example, he doesn't need to watch Nickelodeon at school. (Between 1130 and 12, the kids watch Nick. Every time I go into the classroom at this time the TV is tuned to that channel.) SO, the last thing Mrs. says to me, in an extremely snotty voice, is " We hardly ever watch Nickelodeon. The kids watch educational programs. " Well, I suppose one could consider Blue's Clues educational. I know Mrs. is very unhappy with me. To her, I am like chalk across a blackboard, and vice versa. However, I only want what is best for --my motivation is not to make her school life hell. Although at this point, if that occurs too, who am I to quibble? I cannot express how grateful I am that Mrs. Lussier and Libby were there, particularly Mrs. Lussier. She is a great advocate for , and I specifically asked her to be at the IEP meeting, to make every effort to attend, because I knew Mrs. would deny my input. Before I left the school, Mrs. Lussier patted my arm and said, " Don't worry, Maggie. We'll get everything together for you. " And I know that she will. Mrs. IS a wonderful teacher-- has made tremendous strides in her classroom. And it is not my wish to alienate her. I just want what is best for . But I'm sure at this point, Mrs. has laminated my photo and is throwing darts at it. Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Jacquie, then you and I can form a corportation called IEP Bitches, Inc. Our slogan can be, " We get it done so THEY get it done. " Maggie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 You got it girl!!!!!! Let's go national and give 'em hell! Jacquie H Re: IEP meeting from Hades Jacquie, then you and I can form a corportation called IEP Bitches, Inc. Our slogan can be, " We get it done so THEY get it done. " Maggie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Think of the money we could make, Jacquie. Maggie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Think of the money we could make, Jacquie. Maggie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Can I join you? I have the type of tenacity they hate! Took four years, but I didn't give up on getting them to certify or give him the rest of the services he needed. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 The more the merrier, Sue. Another slogan can be, " You messed with the wrong women this time. " I admire your tenacity. Maggie ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 Hehehehehe! We have a team! Jacquie H Re: IEP meeting from Hades Can I join you? I have the type of tenacity they hate! Took four years, but I didn't give up on getting them to certify or give him the rest of the services he needed. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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