Re: Mont is a hack - BEWARE

[Guest guest]

Latham - he da man!!!!

In a message dated 4/23/2004 2:02:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,

guezo@... writes:

I have OA in the left hip and was referred by my GP to Mr Latham at

the Wessex Nuffield Hospital. He was quite blunt; THR's are for people who

expect to die within 10 years; those with any sort of ambition have to go the

BHR

route.

[Guest guest]

Latham - he da man!!!!

In a message dated 4/23/2004 2:02:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,

guezo@... writes:

I have OA in the left hip and was referred by my GP to Mr Latham at

the Wessex Nuffield Hospital. He was quite blunt; THR's are for people who

expect to die within 10 years; those with any sort of ambition have to go the

BHR

route.

[Guest guest]

sorry guys n gals,

But i just saw this link , which bore some slight amusement for

me....

it states that " As chromium 3, the chemical is an essential nutrient

in meat, fish, fruit and vegetables. As chromium 6, it has been

proven to cause cancer when inhaled.

So, whoever wrote that " MONT IS A HACK " idiocy..... my advice to

you is this.....

PLEASE CHACK WITH YOUR ORTHO SURGEON... IF YOUR PROPOSED IMPLANT

CONTAINS Chr6 - " DO NOT INHALE YOUR PROSTHESES!!!! APART FROM

SUFFOCATING YOU, IT MAY LEAD TO CANCER!! "

http://www.nofluoride.com/chromium_and_cancer.htm

[Guest guest]

sorry guys n gals,

But i just saw this link , which bore some slight amusement for

me....

it states that " As chromium 3, the chemical is an essential nutrient

in meat, fish, fruit and vegetables. As chromium 6, it has been

proven to cause cancer when inhaled.

So, whoever wrote that " MONT IS A HACK " idiocy..... my advice to

you is this.....

PLEASE CHACK WITH YOUR ORTHO SURGEON... IF YOUR PROPOSED IMPLANT

CONTAINS Chr6 - " DO NOT INHALE YOUR PROSTHESES!!!! APART FROM

SUFFOCATING YOU, IT MAY LEAD TO CANCER!! "

http://www.nofluoride.com/chromium_and_cancer.htm

[Guest guest]

I hope the following helps to once again increase your comfort level

if you are considering this procedure.

I have copied a document entitled " Much Adieu About Nothing? -

Getting Perspective on Metal Ion Levels " . which was authored by

Dr

P. Schmalzried, Associate Director of the Joint Research

Institute (JRI). Dr. Schmalzried is a member of the Board of

Directors of the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons.

Dr Schmalzried states in part:

" In patients with a well-functioning prosthesis with a

metal-metal

bearing, the ion levels are generally between 1 and 5 parts per

billion. How low are these levels? Consider that a line of one

billion tennis balls, placed side by side, would more than encircle

the equator of this planet. If these cobalt and chromium ions were

tennis balls, it would be like having 1 to 5 white tennis balls

somewhere in a line of yellow tennis balls encircling the globe "

He goes on to say…

" If there is any increase in overall health risk to patients with

a

metal-metal bearing prosthesis, it appears to be very low. Such risk

needs to be kept in perspective of the overall risks of total joint

replacement. It is a fact, obtained from the Medicare data base,

that the risk of death within 90 days of revision total hip

replacement is 2.6%! If the goal of a metal-metal bearing is to

prolong the life of the prosthetic joint, and thus avoid revision

surgery, then it is reasonable to accept the theoretical risks of

trace ions " .

At the 2003 Annual American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons Meeting

the following Paper was presented

`Medium Term Serum Cobalt and Chromium Levels In Patients With

Metal-

Metal Resurfacing'

The Authors are quoted in part:

Cobalt was analysed by inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry

(ICP-MS). Measurements were taken from 39 patients with 7 bilateral

cases. Pre-operative levels were only taken from 15 patients, and

these were universally low (below 20nmol/l). In all patients the

serum levels of cobalt and chromium increased following Resurfacing

although the extent of the increase varied greatly between patients.

The data shows a definite trend of decreasing ion levels after 4

years. This may be consistent with running-in wear and healing of the

peri-prosthetic tissues providing a smooth, stable joint.

Alan

RBHR DeSmet Nov,2003

> Screw hip resurfacing and metal on metal bearings. Wait for long

> term ion studies.....

>

> Cr ions = cancer

[Guest guest]

Okay, folks. I must admit that the concerns over cancer-causing ions or

whatever did not even factor into my decision about hip resurfacing surgery.

That's probably mostly about my nature -- I don't spend a lot of time worrying

over things I can't do anything about. Fact: I had to have surgery (or

something else drastic) to fix the hip. Before surgery I was taking MASSIVE

doses of ibuprofen and then moved on to Vicodin and arthrotect. Those drugs are

also dangerous in the doses I was needing to use. Fact: I didn't want my femur

amputated. Fact: the alternative has all the benefits we have so often written

about here and that I don't need to underline. Fact: anything artificial in the

body has some risks. Fact: I had to make a choice and I did. I'm willing to

live with that choice. (and am doing so very nicely) Fact: I routinely put

pollutants into my body just by being a human being who lives in the 21st

century. Fact: folks who go on endlessly debating whether or not this or that

will kill you, eventually get on my nerves. Fact: I am totally aware of

alternatives to modern western medicine and utilize whatever seems reasonable.

And I also roll my eyes and shake my head when the " alternatives " get to the

place where, for example, I read about a " new/ancient " spiritual technique of

massage wherein the masseuse does not even lay hands on the person! Fact: I

drive a car in rush-hour traffic twice a day, every day. Folks, we're all gonna

die some day. In the meantime, I intend to live. As my uncle Bill used to say:

" If you're meant to be shot, you'll never be hung.... " Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR,

2/2/04)

[Guest guest]

Okay, folks. I must admit that the concerns over cancer-causing ions or

whatever did not even factor into my decision about hip resurfacing surgery.

That's probably mostly about my nature -- I don't spend a lot of time worrying

over things I can't do anything about. Fact: I had to have surgery (or

something else drastic) to fix the hip. Before surgery I was taking MASSIVE

doses of ibuprofen and then moved on to Vicodin and arthrotect. Those drugs are

also dangerous in the doses I was needing to use. Fact: I didn't want my femur

amputated. Fact: the alternative has all the benefits we have so often written

about here and that I don't need to underline. Fact: anything artificial in the

body has some risks. Fact: I had to make a choice and I did. I'm willing to

live with that choice. (and am doing so very nicely) Fact: I routinely put

pollutants into my body just by being a human being who lives in the 21st

century. Fact: folks who go on endlessly debating whether or not this or that

will kill you, eventually get on my nerves. Fact: I am totally aware of

alternatives to modern western medicine and utilize whatever seems reasonable.

And I also roll my eyes and shake my head when the " alternatives " get to the

place where, for example, I read about a " new/ancient " spiritual technique of

massage wherein the masseuse does not even lay hands on the person! Fact: I

drive a car in rush-hour traffic twice a day, every day. Folks, we're all gonna

die some day. In the meantime, I intend to live. As my uncle Bill used to say:

" If you're meant to be shot, you'll never be hung.... " Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR,

2/2/04)

[Guest guest]

Well said, Joyce! I heartily concur.

rBHR 3/3/04 De Smet

RE: Re: Mont is a hack - BEWARE

> Okay, folks. I must admit that the concerns over cancer-causing ions or

whatever did not even factor into my decision about hip resurfacing surgery.

That's probably mostly about my nature -- I don't spend a lot of time

worrying over things I can't do anything about. Fact: I had to have surgery

(or something else drastic) to fix the hip. Before surgery I was taking

MASSIVE doses of ibuprofen and then moved on to Vicodin and arthrotect.

Those drugs are also dangerous in the doses I was needing to use. Fact: I

didn't want my femur amputated. Fact: the alternative has all the benefits

we have so often written about here and that I don't need to underline.

Fact: anything artificial in the body has some risks. Fact: I had to make a

choice and I did. I'm willing to live with that choice. (and am doing so

very nicely) Fact: I routinely put pollutants into my body just by being a

human being who lives in the 21st century. Fact: folks who go on endlessly

debating whether or not this or that will kill you, eventually get on my

nerves. Fact: I am totally aware of alternatives to modern western medicine

and utilize whatever seems reasonable. And I also roll my eyes and shake my

head when the " alternatives " get to the place where, for example, I read

about a " new/ancient " spiritual technique of massage wherein the masseuse

does not even lay hands on the person! Fact: I drive a car in rush-hour

traffic twice a day, every day. Folks, we're all gonna die some day. In the

meantime, I intend to live. As my uncle Bill used to say: " If you're meant

to be shot, you'll never be hung.... " Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR, 2/2/04)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well said, Joyce! I heartily concur.

rBHR 3/3/04 De Smet

RE: Re: Mont is a hack - BEWARE

> Okay, folks. I must admit that the concerns over cancer-causing ions or

whatever did not even factor into my decision about hip resurfacing surgery.

That's probably mostly about my nature -- I don't spend a lot of time

worrying over things I can't do anything about. Fact: I had to have surgery

(or something else drastic) to fix the hip. Before surgery I was taking

MASSIVE doses of ibuprofen and then moved on to Vicodin and arthrotect.

Those drugs are also dangerous in the doses I was needing to use. Fact: I

didn't want my femur amputated. Fact: the alternative has all the benefits

we have so often written about here and that I don't need to underline.

Fact: anything artificial in the body has some risks. Fact: I had to make a

choice and I did. I'm willing to live with that choice. (and am doing so

very nicely) Fact: I routinely put pollutants into my body just by being a

human being who lives in the 21st century. Fact: folks who go on endlessly

debating whether or not this or that will kill you, eventually get on my

nerves. Fact: I am totally aware of alternatives to modern western medicine

and utilize whatever seems reasonable. And I also roll my eyes and shake my

head when the " alternatives " get to the place where, for example, I read

about a " new/ancient " spiritual technique of massage wherein the masseuse

does not even lay hands on the person! Fact: I drive a car in rush-hour

traffic twice a day, every day. Folks, we're all gonna die some day. In the

meantime, I intend to live. As my uncle Bill used to say: " If you're meant

to be shot, you'll never be hung.... " Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR, 2/2/04)

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