Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Keep trying to find the best option. Remember - not all THR's are created equal. You can get many of the benfits of resurfacing from a THR with a large femoral head and hard bearing surfaces - either metal-on-metal or ceramic-on-ceramic. Several trade-offs to consider between them. Also make sure you find yourself the best darn surgeon you can. Many of the surgeons that you have read about on this list also do THRs. Best of luck and keep us posted with your progress (I don't think will kick you off the board if you get a THR - once a hippie, always a hippie - at least in spirit). (47) RC2K Dr. Gross 3/24/04 > Well the day has come! > > I have been told that I am not suitable for hip > resurfacing again, and again and again. > > There is only so many knock backs a person can take > before they admit defeat and that day has come for me. > I will have a THR in September and pray that it lasts > until I am 50 (I am currently 28) > > I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that helped me > during the months of looking, and hope that people who > are pre op manage to get what they are looking for. > > Good luck and farewell > Liney > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Keep trying to find the best option. Remember - not all THR's are created equal. You can get many of the benfits of resurfacing from a THR with a large femoral head and hard bearing surfaces - either metal-on-metal or ceramic-on-ceramic. Several trade-offs to consider between them. Also make sure you find yourself the best darn surgeon you can. Many of the surgeons that you have read about on this list also do THRs. Best of luck and keep us posted with your progress (I don't think will kick you off the board if you get a THR - once a hippie, always a hippie - at least in spirit). (47) RC2K Dr. Gross 3/24/04 > Well the day has come! > > I have been told that I am not suitable for hip > resurfacing again, and again and again. > > There is only so many knock backs a person can take > before they admit defeat and that day has come for me. > I will have a THR in September and pray that it lasts > until I am 50 (I am currently 28) > > I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that helped me > during the months of looking, and hope that people who > are pre op manage to get what they are looking for. > > Good luck and farewell > Liney > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Liney, I know that you'd rather get resurfed, by I also know that you are aware of the incredible advancements in THR's. If folks are getting 20 and 30 years out of old technology, than you should be able to make 50 easily with new technology. Keep strong, and expect nothing buy excellent results at you age. 50 is a very reasonable expectation. C+ 4-15-04 > Well the day has come! > > I have been told that I am not suitable for hip > resurfacing again, and again and again. > > There is only so many knock backs a person can take > before they admit defeat and that day has come for me. > I will have a THR in September and pray that it lasts > until I am 50 (I am currently 28) > > I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that helped me > during the months of looking, and hope that people who > are pre op manage to get what they are looking for. > > Good luck and farewell > Liney > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 I'm under the assumption that those who have told you are resurf docs themselves...This rhetoric is the same tripe that I was told and I ended up with a Conserve plus instead of THR. If you are sure these surgeons that you've consulted weren't thinking of a hemi resurf, OK. I wish you luck, Liney. If you weren't talking with a doctor who does full resurface of both sides, you didn't get a good opinion. It has discouraged many patients who have ended up settling for THR but I asked more and got more. If you've been talking " apples instead of oranges, you may want to look further. Captain Amaze_O (Mont, C+, 12-17-01) > Well the day has come! > > I have been told that I am not suitable for hip > resurfacing again, and again and again. > > There is only so many knock backs a person can take > before they admit defeat and that day has come for me. > I will have a THR in September and pray that it lasts > until I am 50 (I am currently 28) > > I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that helped me > during the months of looking, and hope that people who > are pre op manage to get what they are looking for. > > Good luck and farewell > Liney > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2004 Report Share Posted July 18, 2004 > > I have been told that I am not suitable for hip > resurfacing again, and again and again. Liney- Have you sent your x-rays to Dr De Smet? He takes on challenging cases with great success. You are so young to have that much of your bone so permanently removed. It really would be worth it for you. There was a gentleman who posted here about 2 years ago. He also was turned down by everyone. Even Mr. McMinn and Treacy. Dr De Smet resurfaced him and he is going strong. Please keep in touch. Rock climbin' Jude LBHR De Smet 09/11/02 > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I love this group!! Thanks for all of the suggestions about sending my xrays to De Smet. The truth of the matter is that I am scared to send a copy of them over to Beligum incase he says that he can do it! There is no way that I will ever be able to afford to pay to have the operation done over there. Teachers dont earn enough and if De Smet said that he could do it I would feel terrible about having a THR. The success rate is good with THR and my life will be so much more improved than the half life (or even quarter) that I am living at the moment. I've never ever run in my life, standing hurts, as does sitting on a chair and I cant remember a time when it didnt. A THR will give me so much freedom and a pain free life. Maybe lots of you think this is only a second best option, but to me it looks like (excuse the phrase) a bloody good one. I can't see the future but I hope it is a good one, and that isnt just for me it goes for all the wonderful people on this site. Thanks for your friendship Liney x ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I love this group!! Thanks for all of the suggestions about sending my xrays to De Smet. The truth of the matter is that I am scared to send a copy of them over to Beligum incase he says that he can do it! There is no way that I will ever be able to afford to pay to have the operation done over there. Teachers dont earn enough and if De Smet said that he could do it I would feel terrible about having a THR. The success rate is good with THR and my life will be so much more improved than the half life (or even quarter) that I am living at the moment. I've never ever run in my life, standing hurts, as does sitting on a chair and I cant remember a time when it didnt. A THR will give me so much freedom and a pain free life. Maybe lots of you think this is only a second best option, but to me it looks like (excuse the phrase) a bloody good one. I can't see the future but I hope it is a good one, and that isnt just for me it goes for all the wonderful people on this site. Thanks for your friendship Liney x ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I love this group!! Thanks for all of the suggestions about sending my xrays to De Smet. The truth of the matter is that I am scared to send a copy of them over to Beligum incase he says that he can do it! There is no way that I will ever be able to afford to pay to have the operation done over there. Teachers dont earn enough and if De Smet said that he could do it I would feel terrible about having a THR. The success rate is good with THR and my life will be so much more improved than the half life (or even quarter) that I am living at the moment. I've never ever run in my life, standing hurts, as does sitting on a chair and I cant remember a time when it didnt. A THR will give me so much freedom and a pain free life. Maybe lots of you think this is only a second best option, but to me it looks like (excuse the phrase) a bloody good one. I can't see the future but I hope it is a good one, and that isnt just for me it goes for all the wonderful people on this site. Thanks for your friendship Liney x ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Hi Liney, I suspect you are being very wise with that approach as you heal best when you feel happy with what you have......... I had a half life and I know exactly where you are coming from......... only this morning I thought about how wonderful it is to be actually able to think about planning some form of future........ when living half lives one is only doing a half existance fighting to just get through a given day...........let alone think of any sort of future.......... And it is all so relative......... a couple of weeks ago I had someone say to me how thankfully they were that despite a broken pelvis they hadn't scored a hip replacement......... I could only laugh and say that each day I give thanks to the fact I DO HAVE one............ People do all sorts of things with a THR and I am sure you will enjoy yours every bit as much as I enjoy having my BHR............ All the best with the operation, recovery and reclaiming your life.......... Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > I love this group!! > > Thanks for all of the suggestions about sending my > xrays to De Smet. The truth of the matter is that I > am scared to send a copy of them over to Beligum > incase he says that he can do it! > > There is no way that I will ever be able to afford to > pay to have the operation done over there. Teachers > dont earn enough and if De Smet said that he could do > it I would feel terrible about having a THR. > > The success rate is good with THR and my life will be > so much more improved than the half life (or even > quarter) that I am living at the moment. > > I've never ever run in my life, standing hurts, as > does sitting on a chair and I cant remember a time > when it didnt. > > A THR will give me so much freedom and a pain free > life. Maybe lots of you think this is only a second > best option, but to me it looks like (excuse the > phrase) a bloody good one. > > I can't see the future but I hope it is a good one, > and that isnt just for me it goes for all the > wonderful people on this site. > > Thanks for your friendship > > Liney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Sorry to hear that you are passing up a chance to stay at the De Smet resort in Gent. I am 65, and diagnosed with mild osteoporosis. Canadian surgons would not touch it for resurfacing. He looked at the x rays, as did Dr.McMyn in England and Mr.O'Hara in England, all pioneers of the revitalized BHR technique. I had the sugery done June 23. Not running yet, but walking well with 1 cane, driving after two weeks. NO PAIN - just tenderness along the incision. It cost me about $22,000 Canadian all inclusive of air fare, hotels etc. but I feel it was a bargain. While there I met a fellow from Toronto who had been trying for relief for 20 years - he is now about 48. He had a bilateral resurfacing done the week before me and for the first time has hopes that this will last him until death, rather than 20 years or so. It was a struggle to raise the cash, but I have no regrets. > I love this group!! > > Thanks for all of the suggestions about sending my > xrays to De Smet. The truth of the matter is that I > am scared to send a copy of them over to Beligum > incase he says that he can do it! > > There is no way that I will ever be able to afford to > pay to have the operation done over there. Teachers > dont earn enough and if De Smet said that he could do > it I would feel terrible about having a THR. > > The success rate is good with THR and my life will be > so much more improved than the half life (or even > quarter) that I am living at the moment. > > I've never ever run in my life, standing hurts, as > does sitting on a chair and I cant remember a time > when it didnt. > > A THR will give me so much freedom and a pain free > life. Maybe lots of you think this is only a second > best option, but to me it looks like (excuse the > phrase) a bloody good one. > > I can't see the future but I hope it is a good one, > and that isnt just for me it goes for all the > wonderful people on this site. > > Thanks for your friendship > > Liney > x > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Liney, When it was looking like I might not get my second resurfacing, (I eventually did) I had to look at THR options. My research led me to seriously consider the Conserve Total Hip http://www.wmt.com/bigfemoralhead/patients/default.asp After discussing it at length with Dr. Amstutz, I concluded it was the next best option to a resurfacing – I was extremely pleased with the C+ I already had in my other hip and this was very similar technology, affording similar loading and performance as my C+. Being a pretty active guy, I wanted the implant that gave the best chance of remaining active while matching the performance of my other implant as closely as possible. So my situation might be a bit different than yours. I've heard conflicting accounts of ceramic and poly THR longevity and performance. I know some surgeons feel their technology has improved to a point where longevity comes close to large head metal on metal, but I'm under the impression that wear is still less with metal on metal. Before you commit to ceramic, I would make sure you get another opinion, and consult with at least one surgeon who works with large head m-o-m. If you can't have a resurfacing, at least you can have a good part of the technology that makes it so desirable. I know between the 3 JRI docs, they use the three types of THRs, poly, ceramic and m-o-m. Wishing you the best, Dave > Hi Dave > > I have been advised by 2 different consultants to have > an uncemented ceramic hip with a metal cup. Do you > think this is incorrect? > > Cheers > Liney > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Liney, When it was looking like I might not get my second resurfacing, (I eventually did) I had to look at THR options. My research led me to seriously consider the Conserve Total Hip http://www.wmt.com/bigfemoralhead/patients/default.asp After discussing it at length with Dr. Amstutz, I concluded it was the next best option to a resurfacing – I was extremely pleased with the C+ I already had in my other hip and this was very similar technology, affording similar loading and performance as my C+. Being a pretty active guy, I wanted the implant that gave the best chance of remaining active while matching the performance of my other implant as closely as possible. So my situation might be a bit different than yours. I've heard conflicting accounts of ceramic and poly THR longevity and performance. I know some surgeons feel their technology has improved to a point where longevity comes close to large head metal on metal, but I'm under the impression that wear is still less with metal on metal. Before you commit to ceramic, I would make sure you get another opinion, and consult with at least one surgeon who works with large head m-o-m. If you can't have a resurfacing, at least you can have a good part of the technology that makes it so desirable. I know between the 3 JRI docs, they use the three types of THRs, poly, ceramic and m-o-m. Wishing you the best, Dave > Hi Dave > > I have been advised by 2 different consultants to have > an uncemented ceramic hip with a metal cup. Do you > think this is incorrect? > > Cheers > Liney > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Liney, I'm pretty sure that the Conserve Big Femoral Head THR would be a much larger diameter than the ceramic device. The wear may be less with ceramic but ask about dislocation with the ceramic device for an active patient. The smaller the diameter, the greater the incidence of dislocation. How active would you like to be? Also, one OS I saw told me that the ceramic device could shatter while jumping (during volleyball) if the ball was slightly out of the socket when I landed. That and the dislocation possibilities were enough for me not to consider ceramic. The Big Femoral Head is the closest THR device to the resurfacing device. Best of luck with your decision. Fred Dr. Gross, C2K 1/21/04 > > Hi Dave > > > > I have been advised by 2 different consultants to have > > an uncemented ceramic hip with a metal cup. Do you > > think this is incorrect? > > > > Cheers > > Liney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL- NEW > Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Liney, I'm pretty sure that the Conserve Big Femoral Head THR would be a much larger diameter than the ceramic device. The wear may be less with ceramic but ask about dislocation with the ceramic device for an active patient. The smaller the diameter, the greater the incidence of dislocation. How active would you like to be? Also, one OS I saw told me that the ceramic device could shatter while jumping (during volleyball) if the ball was slightly out of the socket when I landed. That and the dislocation possibilities were enough for me not to consider ceramic. The Big Femoral Head is the closest THR device to the resurfacing device. Best of luck with your decision. Fred Dr. Gross, C2K 1/21/04 > > Hi Dave > > > > I have been advised by 2 different consultants to have > > an uncemented ceramic hip with a metal cup. Do you > > think this is incorrect? > > > > Cheers > > Liney > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ALL- NEW > Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! > http://www.allnewmessenger.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Liney, I don't know whereabouts in the UK you are, but Mr Latham has done many hundred hip jobs and he will do a resurface if at all possible. I'm having mine done in just over 2 weeks at the Wessex Nuffield. However if finances are an issue he also does NHS work in Southampton. When I was referred to him back in February he told me that BHR was the most desirable way to go, but if after opening me up he found that it was not feasible, then Plan B would be a large-head metal on metal THR. However, whichever route you decide to take, may I join the rest of the board in wishing you the very best. Guezo ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: surfacehippy Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:26:01 +0100 (BST) > > > > >Hi Dave > >I have been advised by 2 different consultants to have >an uncemented ceramic hip with a metal cup. Do you >think this is incorrect? > >Cheers >Liney > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://www.allnewmessenger.comhttp://www.allnewmessenger.com > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENThttp://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12ctservd/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=g\ rphealth/S=1705094725:HM/EXP=1091006769/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://comp\ anion.yahoo.com " alt= " " >http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/yahoo_companion/lrec_companion_04300\ 4.gif " alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " > > >http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=grphealth\ /S=:HM/A=2128215/rand=805599645 " > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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