Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 A question: why don't you think you can regain your 5.0 with resurfacing? My experience would indicate otherwise. I'm 57 and 3 months post-op on one resurfaced hip, 6 ½ years on the other. My hips are now the strongest joints in my body. Just as good as the originals, if not better. I too have back problems but it's managable enough for me to keep it close with 20 somethings having 4.5 ratings and I only play 6 times a month. Which is more logical: to accept the opinion of an OS who has performed hundreds of resurfacings, or of one who has performed none? I'm sure Dr. Gilbert means well, but why settle for a 4.0 (or less) with THRs when you could have a 5.0 with resurfacing? Dave > I really want to thank all of you who have posted over the last > several months. Good advise, good humor and an incredible amount of > empathy. I am 61, living in the Bay Area, and have played > competitive tennis all my life. My NTRP rating has fallen from 5.0 > to 4.5 and now to 4.0, primarily because of my inability to move on > the court. It has gradually gotten worse over the last couple of > years. (If I weren't 6'5 " , I'd have a real tough time getting to the > ball right now.) I have come to the realization that no matter what > procedure I elect, I am not going to climb back to a 5.0 rating. I > had a long talk yesterday with the surgeon who will do the THR > ( Gilbert), and he is quite familiar with the resurfacing > procedure and said that it really was a personal decision. He even > said that if I chose to resurface, he would continue to work with me > after the surgery. In my case, it is o/a, and I can't stand up > straight, and it is effecting my back - my hips really don't hurt > that much. If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - > ironically the date is exactly 39 years from the day I reported to > Quantico, Virginia and the United States Marine Corps. (In a little > different shape!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Hi there Mr. Whale, I too live in the Bay area and saw Dr. Gilbert. I wanted to talk to him about being my emergency backup in case I needed help after returning from Belgium. He agreed to see me if needed and was supportive of resurfacing. He did, however tell me that he could give me a pair of ceramic hips that would be just as good as resurfaced ones. Dr. Gilbert is an honest man but he makes his living doing THRs. I'm 45 years old. I chose to go with the resurfacing because I know the prosthetic itself will not wear out. You are still way too young for a THR. If you are as active as you say you are you might be needing the same operation 2 or 3 times. I would do a little more research. Look at pictures. Watch a few movies of the different procedures. I've got my surgery on tape if you want to see it. The best thing to do is look at xrays of people's hips with THRs and with resurfacings. I can't imagine anyone choosing the THR if they had a choice. You still have time. Don't stop researching yet. June De Smet RBHR post op 9 months on 5/14/04 6:50 PM, surfacehippy at surfacehippy wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 23:40:10 -0000 > > Subject: Going for a THR > > I really want to thank all of you who have posted over the last > several months. Good advise, good humor and an incredible amount of > empathy. I am 61, living in the Bay Area, and have played > competitive tennis all my life. My NTRP rating has fallen from 5.0 > to 4.5 and now to 4.0, primarily because of my inability to move on > the court. It has gradually gotten worse over the last couple of > years. (If I weren't 6'5 " , I'd have a real tough time getting to the > ball right now.) I have come to the realization that no matter what > procedure I elect, I am not going to climb back to a 5.0 rating. I > had a long talk yesterday with the surgeon who will do the THR > ( Gilbert), and he is quite familiar with the resurfacing > procedure and said that it really was a personal decision. He even > said that if I chose to resurface, he would continue to work with me > after the surgery. In my case, it is o/a, and I can't stand up > straight, and it is effecting my back - my hips really don't hurt > that much. If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - > ironically the date is exactly 39 years from the day I reported to > Quantico, Virginia and the United States Marine Corps. (In a little > different shape!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 > I really want to thank all of you who have posted over the last > several months. Good advise, good humor and an incredible amount of > empathy. I am 61, living in the Bay Area, and have played > competitive tennis all my life. My NTRP rating has fallen from 5.0 > to 4.5 and now to 4.0, primarily because of my inability to move on > the court. It has gradually gotten worse over the last couple of > years. (If I weren't 6'5 " , I'd have a real tough time getting to the > ball right now.) I have come to the realization that no matter what > procedure I elect, I am not going to climb back to a 5.0 rating. I > had a long talk yesterday with the surgeon who will do the THR > ( Gilbert), and he is quite familiar with the resurfacing > procedure and said that it really was a personal decision. He even > said that if I chose to resurface, he would continue to work with me > after the surgery. In my case, it is o/a, and I can't stand up > straight, and it is effecting my back - my hips really don't hurt > that much. If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - > ironically the date is exactly 39 years from the day I reported to > Quantico, Virginia and the United States Marine Corps. (In a little > different shape!) Dear Sir, I am wondering if you are making a huge decision based on a lack of data. I would suggest that you write down the comparisons of the pros and cons for each procedure and then relook at your decision. Every decision a patient makes has to be his/her alone and I am not trying to talk you out of a hip resurfacing - but seeing a OS who performs resurfacings might give you a fresh perspective on your decision making. Either way good-luck to you. Dr. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 > I really want to thank all of you who have posted over the last > several months. Good advise, good humor and an incredible amount of > empathy. I am 61, living in the Bay Area, and have played > competitive tennis all my life. My NTRP rating has fallen from 5.0 > to 4.5 and now to 4.0, primarily because of my inability to move on > the court. It has gradually gotten worse over the last couple of > years. (If I weren't 6'5 " , I'd have a real tough time getting to the > ball right now.) I have come to the realization that no matter what > procedure I elect, I am not going to climb back to a 5.0 rating. I > had a long talk yesterday with the surgeon who will do the THR > ( Gilbert), and he is quite familiar with the resurfacing > procedure and said that it really was a personal decision. He even > said that if I chose to resurface, he would continue to work with me > after the surgery. In my case, it is o/a, and I can't stand up > straight, and it is effecting my back - my hips really don't hurt > that much. If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - > ironically the date is exactly 39 years from the day I reported to > Quantico, Virginia and the United States Marine Corps. (In a little > different shape!) Dear Sir, I am wondering if you are making a huge decision based on a lack of data. I would suggest that you write down the comparisons of the pros and cons for each procedure and then relook at your decision. Every decision a patient makes has to be his/her alone and I am not trying to talk you out of a hip resurfacing - but seeing a OS who performs resurfacings might give you a fresh perspective on your decision making. Either way good-luck to you. Dr. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 > I really want to thank all of you who have posted over the last > several months. Good advise, good humor and an incredible amount of > empathy. I am 61, living in the Bay Area, and have played > competitive tennis all my life. My NTRP rating has fallen from 5.0 > to 4.5 and now to 4.0, primarily because of my inability to move on > the court. It has gradually gotten worse over the last couple of > years. (If I weren't 6'5 " , I'd have a real tough time getting to the > ball right now.) I have come to the realization that no matter what > procedure I elect, I am not going to climb back to a 5.0 rating. I > had a long talk yesterday with the surgeon who will do the THR > ( Gilbert), and he is quite familiar with the resurfacing > procedure and said that it really was a personal decision. He even > said that if I chose to resurface, he would continue to work with me > after the surgery. In my case, it is o/a, and I can't stand up > straight, and it is effecting my back - my hips really don't hurt > that much. If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - > ironically the date is exactly 39 years from the day I reported to > Quantico, Virginia and the United States Marine Corps. (In a little > different shape!) Dear Sir, I am wondering if you are making a huge decision based on a lack of data. I would suggest that you write down the comparisons of the pros and cons for each procedure and then relook at your decision. Every decision a patient makes has to be his/her alone and I am not trying to talk you out of a hip resurfacing - but seeing a OS who performs resurfacings might give you a fresh perspective on your decision making. Either way good-luck to you. Dr. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Good Luck with the THR's. I'm sure you've made the right decision for YOU. My cousin who is your age, also elected to go that route although at the time said that if he was 15 years younger he would have gone with a resurfacing. And he investigated all options thoroughly. He admits though that 7 years later, if the other hip needed doing he would re-visit that decision - not because he's unhappy with the THR, quite the contrary - but because of the subsequent proven track record of re-surfacing. The deciding factor for me, being 43 at the time, was that when asked about activities post-surgery, my THR O/S said " if you look after your hips, you could walk a golf course for maybe 15 or even 20 years.... " By contrast, my eventual O/S, McMinn, suggested I could hammer the hips after a resurfacing, and that is pretty much what I do. Almost 5 years later, my tennis is better than ever (playing team tennis tonight) and yesterday I nearly decapitated myself doing a circus workshop. That high wire is sure high!! And at last I can uni-cycle and walk on stilts!! Incidentally, my inspirational cousin climbed Kilimanjaro (20,000+ feet) 2 years ago, at 66. So don't give up on getting your tennis rating back with a THR. Best wishes, Dunn (2 x BHR's lft 11/99 + rt 12/00) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 me If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - Just another perspective for you on resurfacing vice THR--I am probably the only person in this forum who has one of each. I received a large ball metal on metal THR from Dr Mont in May 02 when he could not perform a resurfacing due to the large size of my femoral neck. In February 04, I received a Cormet 2K resurfacing from Dr Schmalzried. (Corin makes the devices in larger sizes than WMT did in 2002) I am perfectly happy--just as Dr Mont predicted--with my m-o-m THR, great range of motion, no pain and a fully active lifestyle including skiing, biking, and backpacking. BUT...after the resurfacing, its quite obvious that the resurfaced joint is more natural, more stable and enabled me to walk limp-free sooner. (at 6 weeks, I walked into Dr Schmalzried's office with no cane and no limp...it took me 12 weeks to do that with the THR even with the same therapist) The real unknown is what happens in 20 years. Hopefully, both devices will still be fully functional, as will I!! I really respect the orthopaedic surgeons I have dealt with, but I have yet to meet one who has actually lived with the pain of an OA hip joint and had a hip replaced. Until that time comes, the folks on this board has a unique experience that those surgeons do not have ...living with the replaced joint 24/7. In my humble opinion, its a " no-brainer " ---go with the resurfacing!! If you would like to discuss my experience further with me, email me direct. Best of luck whichever decision you make!! DENNY M ps. I am 62 years old. (its not your age, its your desired activity level and how you use the joint that should point you to resurfacing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 me If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - Just another perspective for you on resurfacing vice THR--I am probably the only person in this forum who has one of each. I received a large ball metal on metal THR from Dr Mont in May 02 when he could not perform a resurfacing due to the large size of my femoral neck. In February 04, I received a Cormet 2K resurfacing from Dr Schmalzried. (Corin makes the devices in larger sizes than WMT did in 2002) I am perfectly happy--just as Dr Mont predicted--with my m-o-m THR, great range of motion, no pain and a fully active lifestyle including skiing, biking, and backpacking. BUT...after the resurfacing, its quite obvious that the resurfaced joint is more natural, more stable and enabled me to walk limp-free sooner. (at 6 weeks, I walked into Dr Schmalzried's office with no cane and no limp...it took me 12 weeks to do that with the THR even with the same therapist) The real unknown is what happens in 20 years. Hopefully, both devices will still be fully functional, as will I!! I really respect the orthopaedic surgeons I have dealt with, but I have yet to meet one who has actually lived with the pain of an OA hip joint and had a hip replaced. Until that time comes, the folks on this board has a unique experience that those surgeons do not have ...living with the replaced joint 24/7. In my humble opinion, its a " no-brainer " ---go with the resurfacing!! If you would like to discuss my experience further with me, email me direct. Best of luck whichever decision you make!! DENNY M ps. I am 62 years old. (its not your age, its your desired activity level and how you use the joint that should point you to resurfacing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Denny: Actually, one of the resurf surgeons has had his hip replaced. I believe it was Dr. Myron Stachniw in Illinios who had his hip done by Dr. Gross. His patients should be able to confirm this. RC2K Dr. Gross 3/24/04 > the orthopaedic surgeons I have dealt with, but I have yet to meet > one who has actually lived with the pain of an OA hip joint and had a > hip replaced. Until that time comes, the folks on this board has a > unique experience that those surgeons do not have ...living with the > replaced joint 24/7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Denny, Thanks for your excellent post. You're a great resource for anyone considering THR over resurfacing. We'll want to use you as a reference for similar questions in the future. Have you added yourself to the databases yet? I never cease to be amazed at the advice given by otherwise respected members of the medical community who advocate THR over resurfacing. As well meaning as they may sound, it's clear they have an agenda that doesn't place patient quality of life as the topmost priority. Patients who fail to apply a minimum of logic to their choice, abdicating ownership of their health to these medical professionals, equally disappoint me. Dave > me > If I were 40, there is no question that I would choose > > resurfacing - but... I have made the decision to put my faith and > > trust in him, and we are scheduled for bi-lateral THR on 5 October - > > > > Just another perspective for you on resurfacing vice THR--I am > probably the only person in this forum who has one of each. I > received a large ball metal on metal THR from Dr Mont in May 02 when > he could not perform a resurfacing due to the large size of my > femoral neck. In February 04, I received a Cormet 2K resurfacing > from Dr Schmalzried. (Corin makes the devices in larger sizes than > WMT did in 2002) > I am perfectly happy--just as Dr Mont predicted--with my m-o-m THR, > great range of motion, no pain and a fully active lifestyle including > skiing, biking, and backpacking. BUT...after the resurfacing, its > quite obvious that the resurfaced joint is more natural, more stable > and enabled me to walk limp-free sooner. (at 6 weeks, I walked into > Dr Schmalzried's office with no cane and no limp...it took me 12 > weeks to do that with the THR even with the same therapist) > The real unknown is what happens in 20 years. Hopefully, both > devices will still be fully functional, as will I!! I really respect > the orthopaedic surgeons I have dealt with, but I have yet to meet > one who has actually lived with the pain of an OA hip joint and had a > hip replaced. Until that time comes, the folks on this board has a > unique experience that those surgeons do not have ...living with the > replaced joint 24/7. > In my humble opinion, its a " no-brainer " ---go with the > resurfacing!! If you would like to discuss my experience further > with me, email me direct. Best of luck whichever decision you make!! > > DENNY M > > ps. I am 62 years old. (its not your age, its your desired activity > level and how you use the joint that should point you to resurfacing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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