Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 -- I was going to write you with the same question as Harriet has asked. And your account was fabulous. I have forwarded it to my husband (I'm the would-be patient) for his edification. Thanks for taking the time to post your description. Very helpful. > , > Thanks for your wonderful account of your experience in Belgium. I > only very recently stumbled on this website and am still educating > myself about hip resurfacing. Can you tell me what is different > about the surgical procedure,technology, etc. that is being performed > by Dr. De Smet compared with what's available in the US. It seems > for one that the recuperation is much, much quicker. > > Thanks, > Harriet > > > > > > Hi All! > > I kept thinking I would catch up on all the back postings > before I posted, but this is such a prolific group (a good thing!) > that I'm still about 800 in the hole! Since I'm leaving town again > on Tuesday to check out colleges with my son on Spring Break, I > thought I'd better just post now...I'll be even deeper in backlogged > postings when I return this weekend. > > I flew into Brussels with my sister, Marilyn, on Monday, March > 2nd, checked into the hospital in Ghent on Tuesday afternoon, and > Dr. Koen De Smet resurfaced my right hip on Wednesday. On Friday I > transferred to the Holiday Inn. The whole experience was great! > Thank you, thank you Dr. De Smet for giving me my life back! Marilyn > is a nurse, and Koen allowed her to observe the entire surgery. She > was really impressed with the whole surgical team. They didn't > hurry, but they worked together like a well-oiled machine, without > any wasted motion. My surgery took only 1hr & 20 minutes. I had no > joint pain at all after surgery, but the 24-hours of IV Acetaminophen > (Tylenol) was not sufficient to control my incision and muscle pain > for the first few days post-op, so I supplemented it (with the > nurses' knowledge and approval) with my own prescription Tylenol > with Codeine #3 from home. I had no nausea or weakness post-op, but > my hemoglobin level was 27 (should have been about 30), and Koen > recommended a blood transfusion. Since I was feeling so good, I > declined, agreeing that if I started feeling nauseous or weak I'd do > later. In addtion to the (small) risk of AIDS or hepatitis, blood > transfusions from donor blood can cause nausea, and fever as the > body's reaction to blood that is compatible, but still contains non- > self proteins. I continued to feel well, and resumed the iron > tablets I'd been taking for a couple weeks pre-op. I also used my > own prescription and non-prescription medications for non-related > condtiions ( hormone replacement therapy, vitamins, etc.) It seemed > to be common practice for patients to bring and self-administer their > normal maintenace medications while in the hospital, unlike in the > States. > > At the Holiday Inn the fabulous (included in the rate) > breakfast buffet was a gathering place every morning for all the new > surface hippies and their spouses and families. We'd share stories > about the good doctor and his staff, information about vouchers for > the free weekend and evening taxis into Ghent, train schedules to the > nearby medieval city of Brugge, and as we began to get out and > explore more, tips on sights and restaurants that were " must-do's. " > One by one, we'd leave the table to keep our daily appointments with > Marc, our physical therapist. We had Canadians, Americans, Russian > immigrants now living in Seattle, and a Dutch anaestheologist among > our group, and we had a great time together. > > Sunday and Monday (days 4 & 5 post-op) after my daily physical > therapy with Marc, Marilyn and I took a taxi into the old part of > Ghent and visited several cathedrals, windowshopped the lace and > chocolate shops, and stopped for tea or a late lunch before returning > to the HI. I kind of over-did it those days, so we stayed in on > Tuesday and Wednesday, exercised in the pool, and watched old movies > and CNN on TV. By Wednesday evening when Jan came for my daily > dressing change, it was becoming apparent that I was not tolerating > the waterproof dressing. Skin over an inch away from the incision > but under the dressing was weeping and breaking down. Switching to a > plain gauze dressing (no more swimming & no showering for 24 hours) > resulted in an immediate improvement. > > By Thursday (post-op day 8) we were on the train to Brugge for > a full day of sight-seeing, including a horse-drawn carriage tour. > Brugge was so beautiful we had to return on Friday as well! Saturday > (post-op day 10) was our last touristy day, so we finished touring > the art in the crypt of the Cathedral of St. Baaf in Ghent, then took > the train to Brugge again to watch a 81-year old lady make lace by > hand in front of one of the lace shops, take the canal tour, and shop > for chocolate, lace and watercolors. It was a long day, and I was > tired, but not exhausted, so we ate in our room, and packed our > treasures and dirty laundry in preparation for an early departure the > next morning > > Sunday morning (day 11 post-op) we hit the buffet at 6:30 and > were loading ourselves and luggage into the taxi for the airport in > Brussels by 7:00. My swelling was down considerably by day 11, and > the flight was much more comfortable than I had expected. We traded > seats with another passenger so that I could have an aisle seat. > Every hour of so I walked the length of the economy aisle and back. > I flew economy both ways and actually was more uncomfortable on the > flight to Belgium than I was on the return flight after surgery! I'm > not tall--5'4 " , so taller patients might need the first class seating > to be comfortable, but I was fine in economy. > > I was so tired of sitting after the taxi ride and after the > long flight back to the East Coast that I didn't use a wheel chair in > the airports. Walking felt really good. I probably would have been > better off using one in Newark, however, since after the incident in > Spain, they were x-raying every piece of luggage and the conveyer > belt broke down. In a wheelchair I could have gone to the head of a > 2-hour line to get through Customs and Luggage Re-Check, but who > knew! Fortunately, we had a 4-hour lay-over before the flight to > Minneapolis, so there was still plenty of time to make it to our > gate. We caught one of those little motorized carts that nearly run > people down on the concourses to get to the gate, and that was much > faster than a wheelchair! We were met by family in Minneapolis about > 6 PM Sunday, and went to the Mall of America (close to the airport) > for dinner together. > > Monday, post-op day 12, I was driving, running errands, and > trying to catch up at home after being gone for 13 days. I stopped > using 2 crutches about 3 weeks post-op. I still use one crutch most > of the time, but sometimes walk short distances without it in the > house. April 19th I'm scheduled to return to my full-time job as the > night pharmicist in a local hospital. > > In my experience, if you are in considerable pain before your > surgery in Belgium, it works well to schedule your surgery for the > day after your arrival and plan to stay a few days longer than the > minimum recommendation. This gives you extra time for the swelling > to go down before your long flight home. If you need the extra time > to recover, you'll have it, and if you feel better and are walking > better than you did before the surgery (as I did), you have a few > days to do some sight-seeing with your new painless hip! Also, bring > along any medications you routinely take at home (except NSAIDs such > as Ibuprofen), especially Vicodin or Tylenol #3 for those first few > days post-op. For the ladies, I bought several pairs of over-size > boxer shorts to wear as underwear over my swollen hip. They worked > very well for me. I just washed them with my TED stockings and let > them dry in the room. Bring a couple of pairs of baggy pants, > several fast-drying tops, and a small bottle of Woolite. One couple > in our group sent all their clothes to the hotel laundry and ended up > with a 150 Euro (about $200) laundry bill! > > Good luck to all the late April Belgium surfacehippies. Say hi > to Koen, Hugo, Marc & Jan for me! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Hi Harriet! Dr. De Smet has performed over 1200 hip resurfacings, so he has more experience with the procedure than anyone in the States. There are 3 manufacturers of these devices. The Conserve + and the Cormet are the only resurfacing devices available in the US. Both are classified as Investigational by the FDA, and only the surgeons enrolled in the multicenter clinical trials for each are allowed to use them. Somebody correct me if I'm out of date here, but I believe that the Cormet is still undergoing clinical studies, and the Conserve + has concluded their studies and is awaiting FDA approval. Surgeons who conducted the Conserve + studies are still allowed access to the devices while the FDA deliberates. The BHR (made in Birmingham, UK) is used in England and Western Europe as a standard of practice. This is the device I have. The concensus on this site seems to be that they are all comparable for most patients, so the main decision is picking a surgeon you are comfortable with. For patients with severe dysplasias, the BHR has the option of a dysplasia cup with screws. Dr. De Smet thought I would need this after looking at my x-rays, but my bone was in better shape than the x-rays indicated, so I have the standard device after all. The BHR is available in larger sizes than either of the US devices, so this is a consideration for large patients. One of our March surface hippies in Belgium was a rather large man who required a larger ball and cup than is available in the States. Dr. De Smet has accepted and successfully resurfaced difficult patients that were rejected for the US studies He's an excellent surgeon and a kind, caring person. There doesn't seem to be an arrogant bone is his body! Others can correct me if I'm out of line here, but my perception is that the US docs are more conservative about post-op weight bearing and exercise because these devices are still Investigational, and they are more accustomed to the greater limitations of THR patients. My only limitations when I left Belgium were to follow the 90 degree rule, wear my TED stockings for six weeks, finish my 3 week course of post-op medications and continue my exercises. Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me directly at lindap@... or here on the site if I can be of any further help. Re: My Belgian Experience > , > Thanks for your wonderful account of your experience in Belgium. I > only very recently stumbled on this website and am still educating > myself about hip resurfacing. Can you tell me what is different > about the surgical procedure,technology, etc. that is being performed > by Dr. De Smet compared with what's available in the US. It seems > for one that the recuperation is much, much quicker. > > Thanks, > Harriet > > > > > > Hi All! > > I kept thinking I would catch up on all the back postings > before I posted, but this is such a prolific group (a good thing!) > that I'm still about 800 in the hole! Since I'm leaving town again > on Tuesday to check out colleges with my son on Spring Break, I > thought I'd better just post now...I'll be even deeper in backlogged > postings when I return this weekend. > > I flew into Brussels with my sister, Marilyn, on Monday, March > 2nd, checked into the hospital in Ghent on Tuesday afternoon, and > Dr. Koen De Smet resurfaced my right hip on Wednesday. On Friday I > transferred to the Holiday Inn. The whole experience was great! > Thank you, thank you Dr. De Smet for giving me my life back! Marilyn > is a nurse, and Koen allowed her to observe the entire surgery. She > was really impressed with the whole surgical team. They didn't > hurry, but they worked together like a well-oiled machine, without > any wasted motion. My surgery took only 1hr & 20 minutes. I had no > joint pain at all after surgery, but the 24-hours of IV Acetaminophen > (Tylenol) was not sufficient to control my incision and muscle pain > for the first few days post-op, so I supplemented it (with the > nurses' knowledge and approval) with my own prescription Tylenol > with Codeine #3 from home. I had no nausea or weakness post-op, but > my hemoglobin level was 27 (should have been about 30), and Koen > recommended a blood transfusion. Since I was feeling so good, I > declined, agreeing that if I started feeling nauseous or weak I'd do > later. In addtion to the (small) risk of AIDS or hepatitis, blood > transfusions from donor blood can cause nausea, and fever as the > body's reaction to blood that is compatible, but still contains non- > self proteins. I continued to feel well, and resumed the iron > tablets I'd been taking for a couple weeks pre-op. I also used my > own prescription and non-prescription medications for non-related > condtiions ( hormone replacement therapy, vitamins, etc.) It seemed > to be common practice for patients to bring and self-administer their > normal maintenace medications while in the hospital, unlike in the > States. > > At the Holiday Inn the fabulous (included in the rate) > breakfast buffet was a gathering place every morning for all the new > surface hippies and their spouses and families. We'd share stories > about the good doctor and his staff, information about vouchers for > the free weekend and evening taxis into Ghent, train schedules to the > nearby medieval city of Brugge, and as we began to get out and > explore more, tips on sights and restaurants that were " must-do's. " > One by one, we'd leave the table to keep our daily appointments with > Marc, our physical therapist. We had Canadians, Americans, Russian > immigrants now living in Seattle, and a Dutch anaestheologist among > our group, and we had a great time together. > > Sunday and Monday (days 4 & 5 post-op) after my daily physical > therapy with Marc, Marilyn and I took a taxi into the old part of > Ghent and visited several cathedrals, windowshopped the lace and > chocolate shops, and stopped for tea or a late lunch before returning > to the HI. I kind of over-did it those days, so we stayed in on > Tuesday and Wednesday, exercised in the pool, and watched old movies > and CNN on TV. By Wednesday evening when Jan came for my daily > dressing change, it was becoming apparent that I was not tolerating > the waterproof dressing. Skin over an inch away from the incision > but under the dressing was weeping and breaking down. Switching to a > plain gauze dressing (no more swimming & no showering for 24 hours) > resulted in an immediate improvement. > > By Thursday (post-op day 8) we were on the train to Brugge for > a full day of sight-seeing, including a horse-drawn carriage tour. > Brugge was so beautiful we had to return on Friday as well! Saturday > (post-op day 10) was our last touristy day, so we finished touring > the art in the crypt of the Cathedral of St. Baaf in Ghent, then took > the train to Brugge again to watch a 81-year old lady make lace by > hand in front of one of the lace shops, take the canal tour, and shop > for chocolate, lace and watercolors. It was a long day, and I was > tired, but not exhausted, so we ate in our room, and packed our > treasures and dirty laundry in preparation for an early departure the > next morning > > Sunday morning (day 11 post-op) we hit the buffet at 6:30 and > were loading ourselves and luggage into the taxi for the airport in > Brussels by 7:00. My swelling was down considerably by day 11, and > the flight was much more comfortable than I had expected. We traded > seats with another passenger so that I could have an aisle seat. > Every hour of so I walked the length of the economy aisle and back. > I flew economy both ways and actually was more uncomfortable on the > flight to Belgium than I was on the return flight after surgery! I'm > not tall--5'4 " , so taller patients might need the first class seating > to be comfortable, but I was fine in economy. > > I was so tired of sitting after the taxi ride and after the > long flight back to the East Coast that I didn't use a wheel chair in > the airports. Walking felt really good. I probably would have been > better off using one in Newark, however, since after the incident in > Spain, they were x-raying every piece of luggage and the conveyer > belt broke down. In a wheelchair I could have gone to the head of a > 2-hour line to get through Customs and Luggage Re-Check, but who > knew! Fortunately, we had a 4-hour lay-over before the flight to > Minneapolis, so there was still plenty of time to make it to our > gate. We caught one of those little motorized carts that nearly run > people down on the concourses to get to the gate, and that was much > faster than a wheelchair! We were met by family in Minneapolis about > 6 PM Sunday, and went to the Mall of America (close to the airport) > for dinner together. > > Monday, post-op day 12, I was driving, running errands, and > trying to catch up at home after being gone for 13 days. I stopped > using 2 crutches about 3 weeks post-op. I still use one crutch most > of the time, but sometimes walk short distances without it in the > house. April 19th I'm scheduled to return to my full-time job as the > night pharmicist in a local hospital. > > In my experience, if you are in considerable pain before your > surgery in Belgium, it works well to schedule your surgery for the > day after your arrival and plan to stay a few days longer than the > minimum recommendation. This gives you extra time for the swelling > to go down before your long flight home. If you need the extra time > to recover, you'll have it, and if you feel better and are walking > better than you did before the surgery (as I did), you have a few > days to do some sight-seeing with your new painless hip! Also, bring > along any medications you routinely take at home (except NSAIDs such > as Ibuprofen), especially Vicodin or Tylenol #3 for those first few > days post-op. For the ladies, I bought several pairs of over-size > boxer shorts to wear as underwear over my swollen hip. They worked > very well for me. I just washed them with my TED stockings and let > them dry in the room. Bring a couple of pairs of baggy pants, > several fast-drying tops, and a small bottle of Woolite. One couple > in our group sent all their clothes to the hotel laundry and ended up > with a 150 Euro (about $200) laundry bill! > > Good luck to all the late April Belgium surfacehippies. Say hi > to Koen, Hugo, Marc & Jan for me! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Hi ! Glad to be of help! Please see the response I just sent to Harriet's questions, and feel free to contact me either directly or on the site if you think of anything else I could answer. Several people were very generous with their experiences and time when I was making this decision, and it's nice to be able to pass on the favor! Re: Re: My Belgian Experience > -- I was going to write you with the same question as Harriet has > asked. And your account was fabulous. I have forwarded it to my husband > (I'm the would-be patient) for his edification. Thanks for taking the time > to post your description. Very helpful. > > > > > > > , > > Thanks for your wonderful account of your experience in Belgium. I > > only very recently stumbled on this website and am still educating > > myself about hip resurfacing. Can you tell me what is different > > about the surgical procedure,technology, etc. that is being performed > > by Dr. De Smet compared with what's available in the US. It seems > > for one that the recuperation is much, much quicker. > > > > Thanks, > > Harriet > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All! > > > I kept thinking I would catch up on all the back postings > > before I posted, but this is such a prolific group (a good thing!) > > that I'm still about 800 in the hole! Since I'm leaving town again > > on Tuesday to check out colleges with my son on Spring Break, I > > thought I'd better just post now...I'll be even deeper in backlogged > > postings when I return this weekend. > > > I flew into Brussels with my sister, Marilyn, on Monday, March > > 2nd, checked into the hospital in Ghent on Tuesday afternoon, and > > Dr. Koen De Smet resurfaced my right hip on Wednesday. On Friday I > > transferred to the Holiday Inn. The whole experience was great! > > Thank you, thank you Dr. De Smet for giving me my life back! Marilyn > > is a nurse, and Koen allowed her to observe the entire surgery. She > > was really impressed with the whole surgical team. They didn't > > hurry, but they worked together like a well-oiled machine, without > > any wasted motion. My surgery took only 1hr & 20 minutes. I had no > > joint pain at all after surgery, but the 24-hours of IV Acetaminophen > > (Tylenol) was not sufficient to control my incision and muscle pain > > for the first few days post-op, so I supplemented it (with the > > nurses' knowledge and approval) with my own prescription Tylenol > > with Codeine #3 from home. I had no nausea or weakness post-op, but > > my hemoglobin level was 27 (should have been about 30), and Koen > > recommended a blood transfusion. Since I was feeling so good, I > > declined, agreeing that if I started feeling nauseous or weak I'd do > > later. In addtion to the (small) risk of AIDS or hepatitis, blood > > transfusions from donor blood can cause nausea, and fever as the > > body's reaction to blood that is compatible, but still contains non- > > self proteins. I continued to feel well, and resumed the iron > > tablets I'd been taking for a couple weeks pre-op. I also used my > > own prescription and non-prescription medications for non-related > > condtiions ( hormone replacement therapy, vitamins, etc.) It seemed > > to be common practice for patients to bring and self-administer their > > normal maintenace medications while in the hospital, unlike in the > > States. > > > At the Holiday Inn the fabulous (included in the rate) > > breakfast buffet was a gathering place every morning for all the new > > surface hippies and their spouses and families. We'd share stories > > about the good doctor and his staff, information about vouchers for > > the free weekend and evening taxis into Ghent, train schedules to the > > nearby medieval city of Brugge, and as we began to get out and > > explore more, tips on sights and restaurants that were " must-do's. " > > One by one, we'd leave the table to keep our daily appointments with > > Marc, our physical therapist. We had Canadians, Americans, Russian > > immigrants now living in Seattle, and a Dutch anaestheologist among > > our group, and we had a great time together. > > > Sunday and Monday (days 4 & 5 post-op) after my daily physical > > therapy with Marc, Marilyn and I took a taxi into the old part of > > Ghent and visited several cathedrals, windowshopped the lace and > > chocolate shops, and stopped for tea or a late lunch before returning > > to the HI. I kind of over-did it those days, so we stayed in on > > Tuesday and Wednesday, exercised in the pool, and watched old movies > > and CNN on TV. By Wednesday evening when Jan came for my daily > > dressing change, it was becoming apparent that I was not tolerating > > the waterproof dressing. Skin over an inch away from the incision > > but under the dressing was weeping and breaking down. Switching to a > > plain gauze dressing (no more swimming & no showering for 24 hours) > > resulted in an immediate improvement. > > > By Thursday (post-op day 8) we were on the train to Brugge for > > a full day of sight-seeing, including a horse-drawn carriage tour. > > Brugge was so beautiful we had to return on Friday as well! Saturday > > (post-op day 10) was our last touristy day, so we finished touring > > the art in the crypt of the Cathedral of St. Baaf in Ghent, then took > > the train to Brugge again to watch a 81-year old lady make lace by > > hand in front of one of the lace shops, take the canal tour, and shop > > for chocolate, lace and watercolors. It was a long day, and I was > > tired, but not exhausted, so we ate in our room, and packed our > > treasures and dirty laundry in preparation for an early departure the > > next morning > > > Sunday morning (day 11 post-op) we hit the buffet at 6:30 and > > were loading ourselves and luggage into the taxi for the airport in > > Brussels by 7:00. My swelling was down considerably by day 11, and > > the flight was much more comfortable than I had expected. We traded > > seats with another passenger so that I could have an aisle seat. > > Every hour of so I walked the length of the economy aisle and back. > > I flew economy both ways and actually was more uncomfortable on the > > flight to Belgium than I was on the return flight after surgery! I'm > > not tall--5'4 " , so taller patients might need the first class seating > > to be comfortable, but I was fine in economy. > > > I was so tired of sitting after the taxi ride and after the > > long flight back to the East Coast that I didn't use a wheel chair in > > the airports. Walking felt really good. I probably would have been > > better off using one in Newark, however, since after the incident in > > Spain, they were x-raying every piece of luggage and the conveyer > > belt broke down. In a wheelchair I could have gone to the head of a > > 2-hour line to get through Customs and Luggage Re-Check, but who > > knew! Fortunately, we had a 4-hour lay-over before the flight to > > Minneapolis, so there was still plenty of time to make it to our > > gate. We caught one of those little motorized carts that nearly run > > people down on the concourses to get to the gate, and that was much > > faster than a wheelchair! We were met by family in Minneapolis about > > 6 PM Sunday, and went to the Mall of America (close to the airport) > > for dinner together. > > > Monday, post-op day 12, I was driving, running errands, and > > trying to catch up at home after being gone for 13 days. I stopped > > using 2 crutches about 3 weeks post-op. I still use one crutch most > > of the time, but sometimes walk short distances without it in the > > house. April 19th I'm scheduled to return to my full-time job as the > > night pharmicist in a local hospital. > > > In my experience, if you are in considerable pain before your > > surgery in Belgium, it works well to schedule your surgery for the > > day after your arrival and plan to stay a few days longer than the > > minimum recommendation. This gives you extra time for the swelling > > to go down before your long flight home. If you need the extra time > > to recover, you'll have it, and if you feel better and are walking > > better than you did before the surgery (as I did), you have a few > > days to do some sight-seeing with your new painless hip! Also, bring > > along any medications you routinely take at home (except NSAIDs such > > as Ibuprofen), especially Vicodin or Tylenol #3 for those first few > > days post-op. For the ladies, I bought several pairs of over-size > > boxer shorts to wear as underwear over my swollen hip. They worked > > very well for me. I just washed them with my TED stockings and let > > them dry in the room. Bring a couple of pairs of baggy pants, > > several fast-drying tops, and a small bottle of Woolite. One couple > > in our group sent all their clothes to the hotel laundry and ended up > > with a 150 Euro (about $200) laundry bill! > > > Good luck to all the late April Belgium surfacehippies. Say hi > > to Koen, Hugo, Marc & Jan for me! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Hi, folks. I wonder if the difference, Europe vs USA, in the post-op restrictions has to do with trying to keep the studies under some sort of control? That is, that in trying to establish the results of clinical trials, the surgeons and manufacturers of the devices would want the patience to be as standard as possible in the post-op routines so that success/failure rates have more validity. I don't know -- Dr Gross didn't have many post-op rules besides the 90 degree rule. Now that I'm past that, I'm not supposed to squat down or routinely lift more than 50 lbs (or maybe 30 lbs?) or do impact sports for 6 months. I did forget while working out in the yard last weekend and squatted down -- and got right back up !!! I was so thrilled to be able to do that again and very happy that I've healed to the place where I'm forgetting to be fretful about how I move or use my body. Nice... Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR, 2/04) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Joyce Glad to hear things are going well I am trying to make a decision between having this done in the US or abroad. Could you give any feedback regarding the out of pocket cost of the entire procedure (including hospital stay) with Dr. Gross? Re: Re: My Belgian Experience Hi, folks. I wonder if the difference, Europe vs USA, in the post-op restrictions has to do with trying to keep the studies under some sort of control? That is, that in trying to establish the results of clinical trials, the surgeons and manufacturers of the devices would want the patience to be as standard as possible in the post-op routines so that success/failure rates have more validity. I don't know -- Dr Gross didn't have many post-op rules besides the 90 degree rule. Now that I'm past that, I'm not supposed to squat down or routinely lift more than 50 lbs (or maybe 30 lbs?) or do impact sports for 6 months. I did forget while working out in the yard last weekend and squatted down -- and got right back up !!! I was so thrilled to be able to do that again and very happy that I've healed to the place where I'm forgetting to be fretful about how I move or use my body. Nice... Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR, 2/04) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Hi Can anybody supply me with Dr deSmet's contact details (office address, phone, email, mobile, assistant's details etc. - anything that would enable a prospect bilateral patient to get in touch with him). Although I was resurfaced in the UK I did not recommend to this chap to go there to get his resurfacing done as he lives in continental Europe and I though he could do no better, and cheaper, than get in touch with the OS everybody suggests is one of the best. As I am not using my home computer and fast internet connection it would take me an age to browse for Dr deSmet's details. Thanks for your help. Regards Dan - L.C2K; 16/02/04 Re: Re: My Belgian Experience Hi Harriet! Dr. De Smet has performed over 1200 hip resurfacings, so he has more experience with the procedure than anyone in the States. There are 3 manufacturers of these devices. The Conserve + and the Cormet are the only resurfacing devices available in the US. Both are classified as Investigational by the FDA, and only the surgeons enrolled in the multicenter clinical trials for each are allowed to use them. Somebody correct me if I'm out of date here, but I believe that the Cormet is still undergoing clinical studies, and the Conserve + has concluded their studies and is awaiting FDA approval. Surgeons who conducted the Conserve + studies are still allowed access to the devices while the FDA deliberates. The BHR (made in Birmingham, UK) is used in England and Western Europe as a standard of practice. This is the device I have. The concensus on this site seems to be that they are all comparable for most patients, so the main decision is picking a surgeon you are comfortable with. For patients with severe dysplasias, the BHR has the option of a dysplasia cup with screws. Dr. De Smet thought I would need this after looking at my x-rays, but my bone was in better shape than the x-rays indicated, so I have the standard device after all. The BHR is available in larger sizes than either of the US devices, so this is a consideration for large patients. One of our March surface hippies in Belgium was a rather large man who required a larger ball and cup than is available in the States. Dr. De Smet has accepted and successfully resurfaced difficult patients that were rejected for the US studies He's an excellent surgeon and a kind, caring person. There doesn't seem to be an arrogant bone is his body! Others can correct me if I'm out of line here, but my perception is that the US docs are more conservative about post-op weight bearing and exercise because these devices are still Investigational, and they are more accustomed to the greater limitations of THR patients. My only limitations when I left Belgium were to follow the 90 degree rule, wear my TED stockings for six weeks, finish my 3 week course of post-op medications and continue my exercises. Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me directly at lindap@... or here on the site if I can be of any further help. Re: My Belgian Experience > , > Thanks for your wonderful account of your experience in Belgium. I > only very recently stumbled on this website and am still educating > myself about hip resurfacing. Can you tell me what is different > about the surgical procedure,technology, etc. that is being performed > by Dr. De Smet compared with what's available in the US. It seems > for one that the recuperation is much, much quicker. > > Thanks, > Harriet > > > > > > Hi All! > > I kept thinking I would catch up on all the back postings > before I posted, but this is such a prolific group (a good thing!) > that I'm still about 800 in the hole! Since I'm leaving town again > on Tuesday to check out colleges with my son on Spring Break, I > thought I'd better just post now...I'll be even deeper in backlogged > postings when I return this weekend. > > I flew into Brussels with my sister, Marilyn, on Monday, March > 2nd, checked into the hospital in Ghent on Tuesday afternoon, and > Dr. Koen De Smet resurfaced my right hip on Wednesday. On Friday I > transferred to the Holiday Inn. The whole experience was great! > Thank you, thank you Dr. De Smet for giving me my life back! Marilyn > is a nurse, and Koen allowed her to observe the entire surgery. She > was really impressed with the whole surgical team. They didn't > hurry, but they worked together like a well-oiled machine, without > any wasted motion. My surgery took only 1hr & 20 minutes. I had no > joint pain at all after surgery, but the 24-hours of IV Acetaminophen > (Tylenol) was not sufficient to control my incision and muscle pain > for the first few days post-op, so I supplemented it (with the > nurses' knowledge and approval) with my own prescription Tylenol > with Codeine #3 from home. I had no nausea or weakness post-op, but > my hemoglobin level was 27 (should have been about 30), and Koen > recommended a blood transfusion. Since I was feeling so good, I > declined, agreeing that if I started feeling nauseous or weak I'd do > later. In addtion to the (small) risk of AIDS or hepatitis, blood > transfusions from donor blood can cause nausea, and fever as the > body's reaction to blood that is compatible, but still contains non- > self proteins. I continued to feel well, and resumed the iron > tablets I'd been taking for a couple weeks pre-op. I also used my > own prescription and non-prescription medications for non-related > condtiions ( hormone replacement therapy, vitamins, etc.) It seemed > to be common practice for patients to bring and self-administer their > normal maintenace medications while in the hospital, unlike in the > States. > > At the Holiday Inn the fabulous (included in the rate) > breakfast buffet was a gathering place every morning for all the new > surface hippies and their spouses and families. We'd share stories > about the good doctor and his staff, information about vouchers for > the free weekend and evening taxis into Ghent, train schedules to the > nearby medieval city of Brugge, and as we began to get out and > explore more, tips on sights and restaurants that were " must-do's. " > One by one, we'd leave the table to keep our daily appointments with > Marc, our physical therapist. We had Canadians, Americans, Russian > immigrants now living in Seattle, and a Dutch anaestheologist among > our group, and we had a great time together. > > Sunday and Monday (days 4 & 5 post-op) after my daily physical > therapy with Marc, Marilyn and I took a taxi into the old part of > Ghent and visited several cathedrals, windowshopped the lace and > chocolate shops, and stopped for tea or a late lunch before returning > to the HI. I kind of over-did it those days, so we stayed in on > Tuesday and Wednesday, exercised in the pool, and watched old movies > and CNN on TV. By Wednesday evening when Jan came for my daily > dressing change, it was becoming apparent that I was not tolerating > the waterproof dressing. Skin over an inch away from the incision > but under the dressing was weeping and breaking down. Switching to a > plain gauze dressing (no more swimming & no showering for 24 hours) > resulted in an immediate improvement. > > By Thursday (post-op day 8) we were on the train to Brugge for > a full day of sight-seeing, including a horse-drawn carriage tour. > Brugge was so beautiful we had to return on Friday as well! Saturday > (post-op day 10) was our last touristy day, so we finished touring > the art in the crypt of the Cathedral of St. Baaf in Ghent, then took > the train to Brugge again to watch a 81-year old lady make lace by > hand in front of one of the lace shops, take the canal tour, and shop > for chocolate, lace and watercolors. It was a long day, and I was > tired, but not exhausted, so we ate in our room, and packed our > treasures and dirty laundry in preparation for an early departure the > next morning > > Sunday morning (day 11 post-op) we hit the buffet at 6:30 and > were loading ourselves and luggage into the taxi for the airport in > Brussels by 7:00. My swelling was down considerably by day 11, and > the flight was much more comfortable than I had expected. We traded > seats with another passenger so that I could have an aisle seat. > Every hour of so I walked the length of the economy aisle and back. > I flew economy both ways and actually was more uncomfortable on the > flight to Belgium than I was on the return flight after surgery! I'm > not tall--5'4 " , so taller patients might need the first class seating > to be comfortable, but I was fine in economy. > > I was so tired of sitting after the taxi ride and after the > long flight back to the East Coast that I didn't use a wheel chair in > the airports. Walking felt really good. I probably would have been > better off using one in Newark, however, since after the incident in > Spain, they were x-raying every piece of luggage and the conveyer > belt broke down. In a wheelchair I could have gone to the head of a > 2-hour line to get through Customs and Luggage Re-Check, but who > knew! Fortunately, we had a 4-hour lay-over before the flight to > Minneapolis, so there was still plenty of time to make it to our > gate. We caught one of those little motorized carts that nearly run > people down on the concourses to get to the gate, and that was much > faster than a wheelchair! We were met by family in Minneapolis about > 6 PM Sunday, and went to the Mall of America (close to the airport) > for dinner together. > > Monday, post-op day 12, I was driving, running errands, and > trying to catch up at home after being gone for 13 days. I stopped > using 2 crutches about 3 weeks post-op. I still use one crutch most > of the time, but sometimes walk short distances without it in the > house. April 19th I'm scheduled to return to my full-time job as the > night pharmicist in a local hospital. > > In my experience, if you are in considerable pain before your > surgery in Belgium, it works well to schedule your surgery for the > day after your arrival and plan to stay a few days longer than the > minimum recommendation. This gives you extra time for the swelling > to go down before your long flight home. If you need the extra time > to recover, you'll have it, and if you feel better and are walking > better than you did before the surgery (as I did), you have a few > days to do some sight-seeing with your new painless hip! Also, bring > along any medications you routinely take at home (except NSAIDs such > as Ibuprofen), especially Vicodin or Tylenol #3 for those first few > days post-op. For the ladies, I bought several pairs of over-size > boxer shorts to wear as underwear over my swollen hip. They worked > very well for me. I just washed them with my TED stockings and let > them dry in the room. Bring a couple of pairs of baggy pants, > several fast-drying tops, and a small bottle of Woolite. One couple > in our group sent all their clothes to the hotel laundry and ended up > with a 150 Euro (about $200) laundry bill! > > Good luck to all the late April Belgium surfacehippies. Say hi > to Koen, Hugo, Marc & Jan for me! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Hi, I CAN give you an idea about expenses -- I just wrote the checks to pay off my part a few days ago. I have United Health Care (of Ohio). I opted for their plan which allows me to chose a provider outside of the network -- which is more expensive than using an in-network provider, but still covers the procedure. The bills to pay my part to: surgeon, hospital, radiologist, surgeon's office visit was $830.00. I had my 6 weeks follow-up done by a local surgeon -- co-pay of $15. Unless I have any sort of complications, I'll continue to use local docs for follow-up. They DO tend to get confused as to what, exactly, they're supposed to do. Dr Gross called the local doc and filled him in on what he needed to do. I then FedEx-ed the radiographs to Dr Gross and got a " wonderful " report. All is well. Joyce (Dr Gross, LHR, 2/04) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Yeah, buddy, I had my resurf done in South Carolina, USA. My out-of-pocket expense was $830. My insurance covered the rest. Best, Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 hi- he has a website with all the info. " www . hip-clinic . com " good luck jeff Re: My Belgian Experience > , > Thanks for your wonderful account of your experience in Belgium. I > only very recently stumbled on this website and am still educating > myself about hip resurfacing. Can you tell me what is different > about the surgical procedure,technology, etc. that is being performed > by Dr. De Smet compared with what's available in the US. It seems > for one that the recuperation is much, much quicker. > > Thanks, > Harriet > > > > > > Hi All! > > I kept thinking I would catch up on all the back postings > before I posted, but this is such a prolific group (a good thing!) > that I'm still about 800 in the hole! Since I'm leaving town again > on Tuesday to check out colleges with my son on Spring Break, I > thought I'd better just post now...I'll be even deeper in backlogged > postings when I return this weekend. > > I flew into Brussels with my sister, Marilyn, on Monday, March > 2nd, checked into the hospital in Ghent on Tuesday afternoon, and > Dr. Koen De Smet resurfaced my right hip on Wednesday. On Friday I > transferred to the Holiday Inn. The whole experience was great! > Thank you, thank you Dr. De Smet for giving me my life back! Marilyn > is a nurse, and Koen allowed her to observe the entire surgery. She > was really impressed with the whole surgical team. They didn't > hurry, but they worked together like a well-oiled machine, without > any wasted motion. My surgery took only 1hr & 20 minutes. I had no > joint pain at all after surgery, but the 24-hours of IV Acetaminophen > (Tylenol) was not sufficient to control my incision and muscle pain > for the first few days post-op, so I supplemented it (with the > nurses' knowledge and approval) with my own prescription Tylenol > with Codeine #3 from home. I had no nausea or weakness post-op, but > my hemoglobin level was 27 (should have been about 30), and Koen > recommended a blood transfusion. Since I was feeling so good, I > declined, agreeing that if I started feeling nauseous or weak I'd do > later. In addtion to the (small) risk of AIDS or hepatitis, blood > transfusions from donor blood can cause nausea, and fever as the > body's reaction to blood that is compatible, but still contains non- > self proteins. I continued to feel well, and resumed the iron > tablets I'd been taking for a couple weeks pre-op. I also used my > own prescription and non-prescription medications for non-related > condtiions ( hormone replacement therapy, vitamins, etc.) It seemed > to be common practice for patients to bring and self-administer their > normal maintenace medications while in the hospital, unlike in the > States. > > At the Holiday Inn the fabulous (included in the rate) > breakfast buffet was a gathering place every morning for all the new > surface hippies and their spouses and families. We'd share stories > about the good doctor and his staff, information about vouchers for > the free weekend and evening taxis into Ghent, train schedules to the > nearby medieval city of Brugge, and as we began to get out and > explore more, tips on sights and restaurants that were " must-do's. " > One by one, we'd leave the table to keep our daily appointments with > Marc, our physical therapist. We had Canadians, Americans, Russian > immigrants now living in Seattle, and a Dutch anaestheologist among > our group, and we had a great time together. > > Sunday and Monday (days 4 & 5 post-op) after my daily physical > therapy with Marc, Marilyn and I took a taxi into the old part of > Ghent and visited several cathedrals, windowshopped the lace and > chocolate shops, and stopped for tea or a late lunch before returning > to the HI. I kind of over-did it those days, so we stayed in on > Tuesday and Wednesday, exercised in the pool, and watched old movies > and CNN on TV. By Wednesday evening when Jan came for my daily > dressing change, it was becoming apparent that I was not tolerating > the waterproof dressing. Skin over an inch away from the incision > but under the dressing was weeping and breaking down. Switching to a > plain gauze dressing (no more swimming & no showering for 24 hours) > resulted in an immediate improvement. > > By Thursday (post-op day 8) we were on the train to Brugge for > a full day of sight-seeing, including a horse-drawn carriage tour. > Brugge was so beautiful we had to return on Friday as well! Saturday > (post-op day 10) was our last touristy day, so we finished touring > the art in the crypt of the Cathedral of St. Baaf in Ghent, then took > the train to Brugge again to watch a 81-year old lady make lace by > hand in front of one of the lace shops, take the canal tour, and shop > for chocolate, lace and watercolors. It was a long day, and I was > tired, but not exhausted, so we ate in our room, and packed our > treasures and dirty laundry in preparation for an early departure the > next morning > > Sunday morning (day 11 post-op) we hit the buffet at 6:30 and > were loading ourselves and luggage into the taxi for the airport in > Brussels by 7:00. My swelling was down considerably by day 11, and > the flight was much more comfortable than I had expected. We traded > seats with another passenger so that I could have an aisle seat. > Every hour of so I walked the length of the economy aisle and back. > I flew economy both ways and actually was more uncomfortable on the > flight to Belgium than I was on the return flight after surgery! I'm > not tall--5'4 " , so taller patients might need the first class seating > to be comfortable, but I was fine in economy. > > I was so tired of sitting after the taxi ride and after the > long flight back to the East Coast that I didn't use a wheel chair in > the airports. Walking felt really good. I probably would have been > better off using one in Newark, however, since after the incident in > Spain, they were x-raying every piece of luggage and the conveyer > belt broke down. In a wheelchair I could have gone to the head of a > 2-hour line to get through Customs and Luggage Re-Check, but who > knew! Fortunately, we had a 4-hour lay-over before the flight to > Minneapolis, so there was still plenty of time to make it to our > gate. We caught one of those little motorized carts that nearly run > people down on the concourses to get to the gate, and that was much > faster than a wheelchair! We were met by family in Minneapolis about > 6 PM Sunday, and went to the Mall of America (close to the airport) > for dinner together. > > Monday, post-op day 12, I was driving, running errands, and > trying to catch up at home after being gone for 13 days. I stopped > using 2 crutches about 3 weeks post-op. I still use one crutch most > of the time, but sometimes walk short distances without it in the > house. April 19th I'm scheduled to return to my full-time job as the > night pharmicist in a local hospital. > > In my experience, if you are in considerable pain before your > surgery in Belgium, it works well to schedule your surgery for the > day after your arrival and plan to stay a few days longer than the > minimum recommendation. This gives you extra time for the swelling > to go down before your long flight home. If you need the extra time > to recover, you'll have it, and if you feel better and are walking > better than you did before the surgery (as I did), you have a few > days to do some sight-seeing with your new painless hip! Also, bring > along any medications you routinely take at home (except NSAIDs such > as Ibuprofen), especially Vicodin or Tylenol #3 for those first few > days post-op. For the ladies, I bought several pairs of over-size > boxer shorts to wear as underwear over my swollen hip. They worked > very well for me. I just washed them with my TED stockings and let > them dry in the room. Bring a couple of pairs of baggy pants, > several fast-drying tops, and a small bottle of Woolite. One couple > in our group sent all their clothes to the hotel laundry and ended up > with a 150 Euro (about $200) laundry bill! > > Good luck to all the late April Belgium surfacehippies. Say hi > to Koen, Hugo, Marc & Jan for me! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Hi Dr. De Smet discharges you from the hospital with a 3-week supply of subcutaneous doses of a low molecular-weight heparin derivative, Enoxaprin. This is an anticoagulant (brand name in the US is Lovenox, in Belgium it's called Clexane), used to prevent DVTs . You may bruise more easily while taking this, but it doesn't need to be monitored closely with blood tests like the oral anticoagulant, Coumadin. Dr. De Smet has you take a double dose the day before, the day of, and the day after your long flight, and you are advised to get up and walk every 45 minutes or so, and drink lots of water. I found that it was impossible to manouver down the narrow aisle with 2 crutches, but that I was able to walk the short distance involved with only one crutch. The hospital supplies you with one pair of TED stockings (compression stockings) which you are instructed to wear around the clock while you are in the hospital. After you are discharged to the Holiday Inn for followup, you only need to wear them during the day for 6 weeks post-op. I found it convenient to have the hospital add a second pair of TEDs to my bill so that I could have one pair to wear while the other pair was drying. Stopping in England for a couple of weeks should work very well. You'll still be on the anticoagulant and wearing your TEDs for the long flight to Vancouver. If your plans change and you'll be staying in England long enough for your 3 weeks of anticoagulant therapy to be completed, you'll need to talk to Dr. De Smet about this. He'll probably want to extend the anticoagulant therapy until after your long flight back to Vancouver. Hope this helps. Let me know if I can answer any other questions about the Belgium option for you. Re: My Belgian Experience > I am considering Dr.Dr.Smet. What precautions are taken concerning > DVT on the return flights? I intend to go to England for about 2 > weeks and then from London to Vancouver (9.5 hours) > > Chris > > > > Hi All! > > > > I kept thinking I would catch up on all the back postings > > > before I posted, but this is such a prolific group (a good > thing!) > > > that I'm still about 800 in the hole! Since I'm leaving town > again > > > on Tuesday to check out colleges with my son on Spring Break, I > > > thought I'd better just post now...I'll be even deeper in > backlogged > > > postings when I return this weekend. > > > > I flew into Brussels with my sister, Marilyn, on Monday, > March > > > 2nd, checked into the hospital in Ghent on Tuesday afternoon, > and > > > Dr. Koen De Smet resurfaced my right hip on Wednesday. On > Friday I > > > transferred to the Holiday Inn. The whole experience was great! > > > Thank you, thank you Dr. De Smet for giving me my life back! > Marilyn > > > is a nurse, and Koen allowed her to observe the entire surgery. > She > > > was really impressed with the whole surgical team. They didn't > > > hurry, but they worked together like a well-oiled machine, > without > > > any wasted motion. My surgery took only 1hr & 20 minutes. I > had no > > > joint pain at all after surgery, but the 24-hours of IV > Acetaminophen > > > (Tylenol) was not sufficient to control my incision and muscle > pain > > > for the first few days post-op, so I supplemented it (with the > > > nurses' knowledge and approval) with my own prescription Tylenol > > > with Codeine #3 from home. I had no nausea or weakness post-op, > but > > > my hemoglobin level was 27 (should have been about 30), and Koen > > > recommended a blood transfusion. Since I was feeling so good, I > > > declined, agreeing that if I started feeling nauseous or weak > I'd do > > > later. In addtion to the (small) risk of AIDS or hepatitis, blood > > > transfusions from donor blood can cause nausea, and fever as the > > > body's reaction to blood that is compatible, but still contains > non- > > > self proteins. I continued to feel well, and resumed the iron > > > tablets I'd been taking for a couple weeks pre-op. I also used > my > > > own prescription and non-prescription medications for non-related > > > condtiions ( hormone replacement therapy, vitamins, etc.) It > seemed > > > to be common practice for patients to bring and self-administer > their > > > normal maintenace medications while in the hospital, unlike in > the > > > States. > > > > At the Holiday Inn the fabulous (included in the rate) > > > breakfast buffet was a gathering place every morning for all the > new > > > surface hippies and their spouses and families. We'd share > stories > > > about the good doctor and his staff, information about vouchers > for > > > the free weekend and evening taxis into Ghent, train schedules > to the > > > nearby medieval city of Brugge, and as we began to get out and > > > explore more, tips on sights and restaurants that were " must- > do's. " > > > One by one, we'd leave the table to keep our daily appointments > with > > > Marc, our physical therapist. We had Canadians, Americans, > Russian > > > immigrants now living in Seattle, and a Dutch anaestheologist > among > > > our group, and we had a great time together. > > > > Sunday and Monday (days 4 & 5 post-op) after my daily > physical > > > therapy with Marc, Marilyn and I took a taxi into the old part of > > > Ghent and visited several cathedrals, windowshopped the lace and > > > chocolate shops, and stopped for tea or a late lunch before > returning > > > to the HI. I kind of over-did it those days, so we stayed in on > > > Tuesday and Wednesday, exercised in the pool, and watched old > movies > > > and CNN on TV. By Wednesday evening when Jan came for my daily > > > dressing change, it was becoming apparent that I was not > tolerating > > > the waterproof dressing. Skin over an inch away from the > incision > > > but under the dressing was weeping and breaking down. Switching > to a > > > plain gauze dressing (no more swimming & no showering for 24 > hours) > > > resulted in an immediate improvement. > > > > By Thursday (post-op day 8) we were on the train to Brugge > for > > > a full day of sight-seeing, including a horse-drawn carriage > tour. > > > Brugge was so beautiful we had to return on Friday as well! > Saturday > > > (post-op day 10) was our last touristy day, so we finished > touring > > > the art in the crypt of the Cathedral of St. Baaf in Ghent, then > took > > > the train to Brugge again to watch a 81-year old lady make lace > by > > > hand in front of one of the lace shops, take the canal tour, and > shop > > > for chocolate, lace and watercolors. It was a long day, and I > was > > > tired, but not exhausted, so we ate in our room, and packed our > > > treasures and dirty laundry in preparation for an early > departure the > > > next morning > > > > Sunday morning (day 11 post-op) we hit the buffet at 6:30 > and > > > were loading ourselves and luggage into the taxi for the airport > in > > > Brussels by 7:00. My swelling was down considerably by day 11, > and > > > the flight was much more comfortable than I had expected. We > traded > > > seats with another passenger so that I could have an aisle seat. > > > Every hour of so I walked the length of the economy aisle and > back. > > > I flew economy both ways and actually was more uncomfortable on > the > > > flight to Belgium than I was on the return flight after > surgery! I'm > > > not tall--5'4 " , so taller patients might need the first class > seating > > > to be comfortable, but I was fine in economy. > > > > I was so tired of sitting after the taxi ride and after the > > > long flight back to the East Coast that I didn't use a wheel > chair in > > > the airports. Walking felt really good. I probably would have > been > > > better off using one in Newark, however, since after the > incident in > > > Spain, they were x-raying every piece of luggage and the conveyer > > > belt broke down. In a wheelchair I could have gone to the head > of a > > > 2-hour line to get through Customs and Luggage Re-Check, but who > > > knew! Fortunately, we had a 4-hour lay-over before the flight to > > > Minneapolis, so there was still plenty of time to make it to our > > > gate. We caught one of those little motorized carts that nearly > run > > > people down on the concourses to get to the gate, and that was > much > > > faster than a wheelchair! We were met by family in Minneapolis > about > > > 6 PM Sunday, and went to the Mall of America (close to the > airport) > > > for dinner together. > > > > Monday, post-op day 12, I was driving, running errands, > and > > > trying to catch up at home after being gone for 13 days. I > stopped > > > using 2 crutches about 3 weeks post-op. I still use one crutch > most > > > of the time, but sometimes walk short distances without it in the > > > house. April 19th I'm scheduled to return to my full-time job > as the > > > night pharmicist in a local hospital. > > > > In my experience, if you are in considerable pain before > your > > > surgery in Belgium, it works well to schedule your surgery for > the > > > day after your arrival and plan to stay a few days longer than > the > > > minimum recommendation. This gives you extra time for the > swelling > > > to go down before your long flight home. If you need the extra > time > > > to recover, you'll have it, and if you feel better and are > walking > > > better than you did before the surgery (as I did), you have a few > > > days to do some sight-seeing with your new painless hip! Also, > bring > > > along any medications you routinely take at home (except NSAIDs > such > > > as Ibuprofen), especially Vicodin or Tylenol #3 for > those first > few > > > days post-op. For the ladies, I bought several pairs of over- > size > > > boxer shorts to wear as underwear over my swollen hip. They > worked > > > very well for me. I just washed them with my TED stockings and > let > > > them dry in the room. Bring a couple of pairs of baggy pants, > > > several fast-drying tops, and a small bottle of Woolite. One > couple > > > in our group sent all their clothes to the hotel laundry and > ended up > > > with a 150 Euro (about $200) laundry bill! > > > > Good luck to all the late April Belgium surfacehippies. > Say hi > > > to Koen, Hugo, Marc & Jan for me! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Hi Dr. De Smet discharges you from the hospital with a 3-week supply of subcutaneous doses of a low molecular-weight heparin derivative, Enoxaprin. This is an anticoagulant (brand name in the US is Lovenox, in Belgium it's called Clexane), used to prevent DVTs . You may bruise more easily while taking this, but it doesn't need to be monitored closely with blood tests like the oral anticoagulant, Coumadin. Dr. De Smet has you take a double dose the day before, the day of, and the day after your long flight, and you are advised to get up and walk every 45 minutes or so, and drink lots of water. I found that it was impossible to manouver down the narrow aisle with 2 crutches, but that I was able to walk the short distance involved with only one crutch. The hospital supplies you with one pair of TED stockings (compression stockings) which you are instructed to wear around the clock while you are in the hospital. After you are discharged to the Holiday Inn for followup, you only need to wear them during the day for 6 weeks post-op. I found it convenient to have the hospital add a second pair of TEDs to my bill so that I could have one pair to wear while the other pair was drying. Stopping in England for a couple of weeks should work very well. You'll still be on the anticoagulant and wearing your TEDs for the long flight to Vancouver. If your plans change and you'll be staying in England long enough for your 3 weeks of anticoagulant therapy to be completed, you'll need to talk to Dr. De Smet about this. He'll probably want to extend the anticoagulant therapy until after your long flight back to Vancouver. Hope this helps. Let me know if I can answer any other questions about the Belgium option for you. Re: My Belgian Experience > I am considering Dr.Dr.Smet. What precautions are taken concerning > DVT on the return flights? I intend to go to England for about 2 > weeks and then from London to Vancouver (9.5 hours) > > Chris > > > > Hi All! > > > > I kept thinking I would catch up on all the back postings > > > before I posted, but this is such a prolific group (a good > thing!) > > > that I'm still about 800 in the hole! Since I'm leaving town > again > > > on Tuesday to check out colleges with my son on Spring Break, I > > > thought I'd better just post now...I'll be even deeper in > backlogged > > > postings when I return this weekend. > > > > I flew into Brussels with my sister, Marilyn, on Monday, > March > > > 2nd, checked into the hospital in Ghent on Tuesday afternoon, > and > > > Dr. Koen De Smet resurfaced my right hip on Wednesday. On > Friday I > > > transferred to the Holiday Inn. The whole experience was great! > > > Thank you, thank you Dr. De Smet for giving me my life back! > Marilyn > > > is a nurse, and Koen allowed her to observe the entire surgery. > She > > > was really impressed with the whole surgical team. They didn't > > > hurry, but they worked together like a well-oiled machine, > without > > > any wasted motion. My surgery took only 1hr & 20 minutes. I > had no > > > joint pain at all after surgery, but the 24-hours of IV > Acetaminophen > > > (Tylenol) was not sufficient to control my incision and muscle > pain > > > for the first few days post-op, so I supplemented it (with the > > > nurses' knowledge and approval) with my own prescription Tylenol > > > with Codeine #3 from home. I had no nausea or weakness post-op, > but > > > my hemoglobin level was 27 (should have been about 30), and Koen > > > recommended a blood transfusion. Since I was feeling so good, I > > > declined, agreeing that if I started feeling nauseous or weak > I'd do > > > later. In addtion to the (small) risk of AIDS or hepatitis, blood > > > transfusions from donor blood can cause nausea, and fever as the > > > body's reaction to blood that is compatible, but still contains > non- > > > self proteins. I continued to feel well, and resumed the iron > > > tablets I'd been taking for a couple weeks pre-op. I also used > my > > > own prescription and non-prescription medications for non-related > > > condtiions ( hormone replacement therapy, vitamins, etc.) It > seemed > > > to be common practice for patients to bring and self-administer > their > > > normal maintenace medications while in the hospital, unlike in > the > > > States. > > > > At the Holiday Inn the fabulous (included in the rate) > > > breakfast buffet was a gathering place every morning for all the > new > > > surface hippies and their spouses and families. We'd share > stories > > > about the good doctor and his staff, information about vouchers > for > > > the free weekend and evening taxis into Ghent, train schedules > to the > > > nearby medieval city of Brugge, and as we began to get out and > > > explore more, tips on sights and restaurants that were " must- > do's. " > > > One by one, we'd leave the table to keep our daily appointments > with > > > Marc, our physical therapist. We had Canadians, Americans, > Russian > > > immigrants now living in Seattle, and a Dutch anaestheologist > among > > > our group, and we had a great time together. > > > > Sunday and Monday (days 4 & 5 post-op) after my daily > physical > > > therapy with Marc, Marilyn and I took a taxi into the old part of > > > Ghent and visited several cathedrals, windowshopped the lace and > > > chocolate shops, and stopped for tea or a late lunch before > returning > > > to the HI. I kind of over-did it those days, so we stayed in on > > > Tuesday and Wednesday, exercised in the pool, and watched old > movies > > > and CNN on TV. By Wednesday evening when Jan came for my daily > > > dressing change, it was becoming apparent that I was not > tolerating > > > the waterproof dressing. Skin over an inch away from the > incision > > > but under the dressing was weeping and breaking down. Switching > to a > > > plain gauze dressing (no more swimming & no showering for 24 > hours) > > > resulted in an immediate improvement. > > > > By Thursday (post-op day 8) we were on the train to Brugge > for > > > a full day of sight-seeing, including a horse-drawn carriage > tour. > > > Brugge was so beautiful we had to return on Friday as well! > Saturday > > > (post-op day 10) was our last touristy day, so we finished > touring > > > the art in the crypt of the Cathedral of St. Baaf in Ghent, then > took > > > the train to Brugge again to watch a 81-year old lady make lace > by > > > hand in front of one of the lace shops, take the canal tour, and > shop > > > for chocolate, lace and watercolors. It was a long day, and I > was > > > tired, but not exhausted, so we ate in our room, and packed our > > > treasures and dirty laundry in preparation for an early > departure the > > > next morning > > > > Sunday morning (day 11 post-op) we hit the buffet at 6:30 > and > > > were loading ourselves and luggage into the taxi for the airport > in > > > Brussels by 7:00. My swelling was down considerably by day 11, > and > > > the flight was much more comfortable than I had expected. We > traded > > > seats with another passenger so that I could have an aisle seat. > > > Every hour of so I walked the length of the economy aisle and > back. > > > I flew economy both ways and actually was more uncomfortable on > the > > > flight to Belgium than I was on the return flight after > surgery! I'm > > > not tall--5'4 " , so taller patients might need the first class > seating > > > to be comfortable, but I was fine in economy. > > > > I was so tired of sitting after the taxi ride and after the > > > long flight back to the East Coast that I didn't use a wheel > chair in > > > the airports. Walking felt really good. I probably would have > been > > > better off using one in Newark, however, since after the > incident in > > > Spain, they were x-raying every piece of luggage and the conveyer > > > belt broke down. In a wheelchair I could have gone to the head > of a > > > 2-hour line to get through Customs and Luggage Re-Check, but who > > > knew! Fortunately, we had a 4-hour lay-over before the flight to > > > Minneapolis, so there was still plenty of time to make it to our > > > gate. We caught one of those little motorized carts that nearly > run > > > people down on the concourses to get to the gate, and that was > much > > > faster than a wheelchair! We were met by family in Minneapolis > about > > > 6 PM Sunday, and went to the Mall of America (close to the > airport) > > > for dinner together. > > > > Monday, post-op day 12, I was driving, running errands, > and > > > trying to catch up at home after being gone for 13 days. I > stopped > > > using 2 crutches about 3 weeks post-op. I still use one crutch > most > > > of the time, but sometimes walk short distances without it in the > > > house. April 19th I'm scheduled to return to my full-time job > as the > > > night pharmicist in a local hospital. > > > > In my experience, if you are in considerable pain before > your > > > surgery in Belgium, it works well to schedule your surgery for > the > > > day after your arrival and plan to stay a few days longer than > the > > > minimum recommendation. This gives you extra time for the > swelling > > > to go down before your long flight home. If you need the extra > time > > > to recover, you'll have it, and if you feel better and are > walking > > > better than you did before the surgery (as I did), you have a few > > > days to do some sight-seeing with your new painless hip! Also, > bring > > > along any medications you routinely take at home (except NSAIDs > such > > > as Ibuprofen), especially Vicodin or Tylenol #3 for > those first > few > > > days post-op. For the ladies, I bought several pairs of over- > size > > > boxer shorts to wear as underwear over my swollen hip. They > worked > > > very well for me. I just washed them with my TED stockings and > let > > > them dry in the room. Bring a couple of pairs of baggy pants, > > > several fast-drying tops, and a small bottle of Woolite. One > couple > > > in our group sent all their clothes to the hotel laundry and > ended up > > > with a 150 Euro (about $200) laundry bill! > > > > Good luck to all the late April Belgium surfacehippies. > Say hi > > > to Koen, Hugo, Marc & Jan for me! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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