Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 The Acid Alkaline Balance Diet : An Innovative Program for Ridding Your Body of Acidic Wastes by Felicia Drury Kliment Available on: amazon.com > I seem to remember a book about avoiding either acids or alkalis, > can't be sure which it was but I think it was eat acids to desolve > crystals forming in the joints. Will look again when I go to the > library this week - last time I saw the book I didn't realise it > might be relevant to me! Does anyone know anything about this please? > > Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 The Acid Alkaline Balance Diet : An Innovative Program for Ridding Your Body of Acidic Wastes by Felicia Drury Kliment Available on: amazon.com > I seem to remember a book about avoiding either acids or alkalis, > can't be sure which it was but I think it was eat acids to desolve > crystals forming in the joints. Will look again when I go to the > library this week - last time I saw the book I didn't realise it > might be relevant to me! Does anyone know anything about this please? > > Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Margaret: The PH of the body should be slightly alkaline. When the body is too acid, there is the potential for crystalation. Gout is a good example of this. Uric acid forming crystals, usually in the big toe. All foods are acid forming with the exception of fruits and vegetables, including citrus. Biggest culprit for acidity these days in western countries is sugars and too high a protein diet. Excess acidity causes inflammation to occur in tissues. Something people with OA and RA are having to deal with acutely and chronically because of the auto immune nature of these conditions. IE Corrupted immunity, usually triggered by toxins which then cause the white cells to attack its own tissues, cartilege being a prime target. Unfortunately this tissue is not ably regenerated due to its low metobolic activity. I guess thats are challenge here Phil Devon UK acid/alkaline diet I seem to remember a book about avoiding either acids or alkalis, can't be sure which it was but I think it was eat acids to desolve crystals forming in the joints. Will look again when I go to the library this week - last time I saw the book I didn't realise it might be relevant to me! Does anyone know anything about this please? Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Hi all, Just facinated to see this subject come up right now......... I have just had a week of battling with more than usual arthritis pain - though mine tends to be in tendons/ligaments around joints more than actually in them......... And I have been thinking about this business of acid/alkaline body balance. It seems to me that in my own case the body runs off up the acid scale as the pain gets started.......... But I am not convinced that it is a matter that one necessarily does it by the eating badly ............ I tend to be pretty stable and careful in what I eat and my thoughts are that some of this at least has pretty complex feedback factors to just how we process our food at various times. I know there is some research now existing that ponders on enzymes produced by the liver and the role that plays in arthritis type activities. Whether it was completely my imagination or not but I seemed to bring my latest encounter under control by resorting to a pill that is usually prescribed to help people with stomach ulcers deal with acid levels. My digestive system quickly settled along pulling the pain back to tolerable levels. BTW not all vegetables are innocent either......... my one and only gout encounter last year seemed to be triggered by snow peas..... which contain the purines that get gout going.......... I had eaten them before many a time but they sent something over the top that time. And I will get into digestion problems very very quickly if I eat too much fruit............ If any of that helps anyone............smile. Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust. 8/02 > > The PH of the body should be slightly alkaline. When the body is too acid, there is the potential for crystalation. Gout is a good example of this. Uric acid forming crystals, usually in the big toe. > > All foods are acid forming with the exception of fruits and vegetables, including citrus. Biggest culprit for acidity these days in western countries is sugars and too high a protein diet. > > Excess acidity causes inflammation to occur in tissues. Something people with OA and RA are having to deal with acutely and chronically because of the auto immune nature of these conditions. IE Corrupted immunity, usually triggered by toxins which then cause the white cells to attack its own tissues, cartilege being a prime target. Unfortunately this tissue is not ably regenerated due to its low metobolic activity. I guess thats are challenge here > > Phil > Devon UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 Hi all, Just facinated to see this subject come up right now......... I have just had a week of battling with more than usual arthritis pain - though mine tends to be in tendons/ligaments around joints more than actually in them......... And I have been thinking about this business of acid/alkaline body balance. It seems to me that in my own case the body runs off up the acid scale as the pain gets started.......... But I am not convinced that it is a matter that one necessarily does it by the eating badly ............ I tend to be pretty stable and careful in what I eat and my thoughts are that some of this at least has pretty complex feedback factors to just how we process our food at various times. I know there is some research now existing that ponders on enzymes produced by the liver and the role that plays in arthritis type activities. Whether it was completely my imagination or not but I seemed to bring my latest encounter under control by resorting to a pill that is usually prescribed to help people with stomach ulcers deal with acid levels. My digestive system quickly settled along pulling the pain back to tolerable levels. BTW not all vegetables are innocent either......... my one and only gout encounter last year seemed to be triggered by snow peas..... which contain the purines that get gout going.......... I had eaten them before many a time but they sent something over the top that time. And I will get into digestion problems very very quickly if I eat too much fruit............ If any of that helps anyone............smile. Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust. 8/02 > > The PH of the body should be slightly alkaline. When the body is too acid, there is the potential for crystalation. Gout is a good example of this. Uric acid forming crystals, usually in the big toe. > > All foods are acid forming with the exception of fruits and vegetables, including citrus. Biggest culprit for acidity these days in western countries is sugars and too high a protein diet. > > Excess acidity causes inflammation to occur in tissues. Something people with OA and RA are having to deal with acutely and chronically because of the auto immune nature of these conditions. IE Corrupted immunity, usually triggered by toxins which then cause the white cells to attack its own tissues, cartilege being a prime target. Unfortunately this tissue is not ably regenerated due to its low metobolic activity. I guess thats are challenge here > > Phil > Devon UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Edith, thanks for your thoughts. Am going to look into this, but remarkably ignorant at the moment. Wouldn't it be wonderful if it worked though? Margaret ecrow ecrow@...> wrote: Hi all, Just facinated to see this subject come up right now......... I have just had a week of battling with more than usual arthritis pain - though mine tends to be in tendons/ligaments around joints more than actually in them......... And I have been thinking about this business of acid/alkaline body balance. It seems to me that in my own case the body runs off up the acid scale as the pain gets started.......... But I am not convinced that it is a matter that one necessarily does it by the eating badly ............ I tend to be pretty stable and careful in what I eat and my thoughts are that some of this at least has pretty complex feedback factors to just how we process our food at various times. I know there is some research now existing that ponders on enzymes produced by the liver and the role that plays in arthritis type activities. Whether it was completely my imagination or not but I seemed to bring my latest encounter under control by resorting to a pill that is usually prescribed to help people with stomach ulcers deal with acid levels. My digestive system quickly settled along pulling the pain back to tolerable levels. BTW not all vegetables are innocent either......... my one and only gout encounter last year seemed to be triggered by snow peas..... which contain the purines that get gout going.......... I had eaten them before many a time but they sent something over the top that time. And I will get into digestion problems very very quickly if I eat too much fruit............ If any of that helps anyone............smile. Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust. 8/02 > > The PH of the body should be slightly alkaline. When the body is too acid, there is the potential for crystalation. Gout is a good example of this. Uric acid forming crystals, usually in the big toe. > > All foods are acid forming with the exception of fruits and vegetables, including citrus. Biggest culprit for acidity these days in western countries is sugars and too high a protein diet. > > Excess acidity causes inflammation to occur in tissues. Something people with OA and RA are having to deal with acutely and chronically because of the auto immune nature of these conditions. IE Corrupted immunity, usually triggered by toxins which then cause the white cells to attack its own tissues, cartilege being a prime target. Unfortunately this tissue is not ably regenerated due to its low metobolic activity. I guess thats are challenge here > > Phil > Devon UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Phil, thanks for info. You are saying citrus is ok I think. So the basic idea is cut down on meat, eggs, cheese (?) and fill up with fruit and veg? Margaret Phil Deem phildeem@...> wrote: Margaret: The PH of the body should be slightly alkaline. When the body is too acid, there is the potential for crystalation. Gout is a good example of this. Uric acid forming crystals, usually in the big toe. All foods are acid forming with the exception of fruits and vegetables, including citrus. Biggest culprit for acidity these days in western countries is sugars and too high a protein diet. Excess acidity causes inflammation to occur in tissues. Something people with OA and RA are having to deal with acutely and chronically because of the auto immune nature of these conditions. IE Corrupted immunity, usually triggered by toxins which then cause the white cells to attack its own tissues, cartilege being a prime target. Unfortunately this tissue is not ably regenerated due to its low metobolic activity. I guess thats are challenge here Phil Devon UK acid/alkaline diet I seem to remember a book about avoiding either acids or alkalis, can't be sure which it was but I think it was eat acids to desolve crystals forming in the joints. Will look again when I go to the library this week - last time I saw the book I didn't realise it might be relevant to me! Does anyone know anything about this please? Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 sjwolf, thanks for book title Margaret sjwolf sjwolf@...> wrote: The Acid Alkaline Balance Diet : An Innovative Program for Ridding Your Body of Acidic Wastes by Felicia Drury Kliment Available on: amazon.com > I seem to remember a book about avoiding either acids or alkalis, > can't be sure which it was but I think it was eat acids to desolve > crystals forming in the joints. Will look again when I go to the > library this week - last time I saw the book I didn't realise it > might be relevant to me! Does anyone know anything about this please? > > Margaret --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Hi, I have not directly heard of it causing joint problems but it is considered a bit of a health risk to let cooking oils get old.....cannot quite remember all the reasons given........... BTW I asked a friend about the Zone diet and she sent me a reference a critical view of that diet http://www.all-creatures.org/health/zonebloodtype.html Sadly one can note that the author says it could cause a calcium loss from the bones..........something we definately wouldn't be wanting........ But I guess everyone has opinions............and highlights yet again that these things are not simple and one has to be careful. Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 > At a class I attended on joint replacement - they mentioned to be > careful not to let your cooking oils get old on the shelf. There is > something in the chemistry of cooking oils that changes as they age on > the shelf and the result is that consumption may cause pain in some > joint patients. It apparently is not a change you can detect by taste > (at least the nurse did not think so). I wish I had more details . . > . has anyone else heard of this? > > > RC2K Dr. Gross 3/24/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Margaret: Dont leave sugar out of the equation. Re citrus fruits. Although they are acid to the digestive tissues pre absorption, they become alkaline when absorbed due to the electrolite minerals in them, changing the ph. Hope this helps. Phil Pre op Devon UK acid/alkaline diet I seem to remember a book about avoiding either acids or alkalis, can't be sure which it was but I think it was eat acids to desolve crystals forming in the joints. Will look again when I go to the library this week - last time I saw the book I didn't realise it might be relevant to me! Does anyone know anything about this please? Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Phil, great, thanks - you are obviously well informed Margaret Phil Deem phildeem@...> wrote: Margaret: Dont leave sugar out of the equation. Re citrus fruits. Although they are acid to the digestive tissues pre absorption, they become alkaline when absorbed due to the electrolite minerals in them, changing the ph. Hope this helps. Phil Pre op Devon UK acid/alkaline diet I seem to remember a book about avoiding either acids or alkalis, can't be sure which it was but I think it was eat acids to desolve crystals forming in the joints. Will look again when I go to the library this week - last time I saw the book I didn't realise it might be relevant to me! Does anyone know anything about this please? Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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