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Hi ,

I agree with you especially if you're going to watch your dietary iodine

carefully and have time for stress reduction techniques. If you call your

doctor's office and ask if this would be OK and explain why, they'll probably

agree with you. Take care, Elaine

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Hi ,

I agree with you especially if you're going to watch your dietary iodine

carefully and have time for stress reduction techniques. If you call your

doctor's office and ask if this would be OK and explain why, they'll probably

agree with you. Take care, Elaine

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I'd be thrilled with those numbers. I don't think you need to change a

thing. Why does the endo want you to go lower?

Terry

> " pmmnmb@...>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:44:15 -0000

> To: graves_support

> Subject: New Labs

>

> Hello there everyone!! It has been some time since I've participated

> on the board because I've been so busy lately; and then when you

> throw in the holidays, a trip to Vegas and a death in my husband's

> family, you kind of get behind in things!!

>

> Anyway, I received my latest lab results and wanted to share them

> with you and get your opinion on what my endo is suggesting I do

> regarding my dosage.

>

> My labs are:

>

> 01/17/03 11/15/02 10/11/02

> FT3 (2.3-4.2) 3.100 --- 2.5

> FT4 (.61-1.76) 1.690 1.080 1.08

> TSH (.35-5.5) .062 1.113 1.06

>

> I am currently taking .75mg of Synthroid and 50mg of PTU split into 2

> doses per day. I have been on the dose of Synthroid since 11/26/02

> and PTU since 11/3/02.

>

> My endo says that my levels are higher than last time (!!REALLY??)

> and that I should increase my PTU to 100 mg per day and test again in

> a month. I've actually felt really good lately. I have energy,

> haven't been so cold and have actually lost a few pounds. I'm afraid

> that if I up my dosage of PTU, I'll just go downhill. What I want to

> do is stay where I am and see what my labs say next month. What do

> you guys think?

>

> Thanks in advance,

> in land

> Age 30, Diagnosed with Graves and TED 10/2001

> Treatment - BRT since 06/29/2002 (.75 mg Synthroid/50 mg PTU)

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

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I'd be thrilled with those numbers. I don't think you need to change a

thing. Why does the endo want you to go lower?

Terry

> " pmmnmb@...>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:44:15 -0000

> To: graves_support

> Subject: New Labs

>

> Hello there everyone!! It has been some time since I've participated

> on the board because I've been so busy lately; and then when you

> throw in the holidays, a trip to Vegas and a death in my husband's

> family, you kind of get behind in things!!

>

> Anyway, I received my latest lab results and wanted to share them

> with you and get your opinion on what my endo is suggesting I do

> regarding my dosage.

>

> My labs are:

>

> 01/17/03 11/15/02 10/11/02

> FT3 (2.3-4.2) 3.100 --- 2.5

> FT4 (.61-1.76) 1.690 1.080 1.08

> TSH (.35-5.5) .062 1.113 1.06

>

> I am currently taking .75mg of Synthroid and 50mg of PTU split into 2

> doses per day. I have been on the dose of Synthroid since 11/26/02

> and PTU since 11/3/02.

>

> My endo says that my levels are higher than last time (!!REALLY??)

> and that I should increase my PTU to 100 mg per day and test again in

> a month. I've actually felt really good lately. I have energy,

> haven't been so cold and have actually lost a few pounds. I'm afraid

> that if I up my dosage of PTU, I'll just go downhill. What I want to

> do is stay where I am and see what my labs say next month. What do

> you guys think?

>

> Thanks in advance,

> in land

> Age 30, Diagnosed with Graves and TED 10/2001

> Treatment - BRT since 06/29/2002 (.75 mg Synthroid/50 mg PTU)

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

> Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of

> the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --------

>

>

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Allegra Lingo wrote:

> I just got more labs back today, and T3 was high (250

> on 60-117 normal), and they gave me the same number

> and same scale for the T4 and TSH (both 2.0 on normal

> .8-1.5). Does this seem right?

No sounds wrong.

Whilst there are at least 2 common TSH assays in general use (and some

specialist assays for detecting low TSH) almost universally TSH is

measured in the same units (mU/L).

TSH lab ranges quoted for TSH in mU/L by my labs are 0.4 to 4.5, and

0.25 to 5.5. I've seen people report TSH ranges where the upper limit

was 6 mU/L, I've never seen it reported as 0.8 to 1.5.

It is now accepted that these upper limits for the TSH range are too

high, but well calibrated TSH tests wouldn't have an upper limit at 1.5

mU/L as modal (most common) TSH in healhy people is about 1.25 mU/L.

It would also be quite unusual and possibly very important if you have

high T3 and T4 AND high TSH. In most hyperthyroid conditions TSH is low

when the other two are raised.

Someone probably goofed, get a printed copy of the results!

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Allegra Lingo wrote:

> I just got more labs back today, and T3 was high (250

> on 60-117 normal), and they gave me the same number

> and same scale for the T4 and TSH (both 2.0 on normal

> .8-1.5). Does this seem right?

No sounds wrong.

Whilst there are at least 2 common TSH assays in general use (and some

specialist assays for detecting low TSH) almost universally TSH is

measured in the same units (mU/L).

TSH lab ranges quoted for TSH in mU/L by my labs are 0.4 to 4.5, and

0.25 to 5.5. I've seen people report TSH ranges where the upper limit

was 6 mU/L, I've never seen it reported as 0.8 to 1.5.

It is now accepted that these upper limits for the TSH range are too

high, but well calibrated TSH tests wouldn't have an upper limit at 1.5

mU/L as modal (most common) TSH in healhy people is about 1.25 mU/L.

It would also be quite unusual and possibly very important if you have

high T3 and T4 AND high TSH. In most hyperthyroid conditions TSH is low

when the other two are raised.

Someone probably goofed, get a printed copy of the results!

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Allegra Lingo wrote:

> I just got more labs back today, and T3 was high (250

> on 60-117 normal), and they gave me the same number

> and same scale for the T4 and TSH (both 2.0 on normal

> .8-1.5). Does this seem right?

No sounds wrong.

Whilst there are at least 2 common TSH assays in general use (and some

specialist assays for detecting low TSH) almost universally TSH is

measured in the same units (mU/L).

TSH lab ranges quoted for TSH in mU/L by my labs are 0.4 to 4.5, and

0.25 to 5.5. I've seen people report TSH ranges where the upper limit

was 6 mU/L, I've never seen it reported as 0.8 to 1.5.

It is now accepted that these upper limits for the TSH range are too

high, but well calibrated TSH tests wouldn't have an upper limit at 1.5

mU/L as modal (most common) TSH in healhy people is about 1.25 mU/L.

It would also be quite unusual and possibly very important if you have

high T3 and T4 AND high TSH. In most hyperthyroid conditions TSH is low

when the other two are raised.

Someone probably goofed, get a printed copy of the results!

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I do still have significant hypo symptoms, cold, very tired, achy,

hair loss and dry. Will up the dose soon.

Thanks for your feedback,

Karin

> Looks to me like your Free T4 has gone down some & it is very low.

Your T3 could be higher as well. I do not know much about your other

tests, but your thyroid tests if they were mine I would be doing an

increase if I still felt hypo. How do you feel?

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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I do still have significant hypo symptoms, cold, very tired, achy,

hair loss and dry. Will up the dose soon.

Thanks for your feedback,

Karin

> Looks to me like your Free T4 has gone down some & it is very low.

Your T3 could be higher as well. I do not know much about your other

tests, but your thyroid tests if they were mine I would be doing an

increase if I still felt hypo. How do you feel?

> *Artistic Grooming * Hurricane, WV

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Thanks Tish,

I haven't felt good in a few years and have finally gotten the

backbone (fedup) enough to take matters into my own hands. I have

all of the hypo symptoms and have hashis. I do have another Dr.

lined up, the current one is treating only by TSH.

Karin

>

> These numbers look better than your current ones. How were you

> feeling then and at the time of the latest labs?

> ______________________

> > (I have self medicated up to 2 grains 1 week ago and plan on

going

> up

> > more after a few weeks.

> _______________________

> I don't think you will regret doing this. Just go slowly and take

> your time.

>

>

> Tish

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Thanks Tish,

I haven't felt good in a few years and have finally gotten the

backbone (fedup) enough to take matters into my own hands. I have

all of the hypo symptoms and have hashis. I do have another Dr.

lined up, the current one is treating only by TSH.

Karin

>

> These numbers look better than your current ones. How were you

> feeling then and at the time of the latest labs?

> ______________________

> > (I have self medicated up to 2 grains 1 week ago and plan on

going

> up

> > more after a few weeks.

> _______________________

> I don't think you will regret doing this. Just go slowly and take

> your time.

>

>

> Tish

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Cindi,

I still have many hypo symptoms and will self medicate until I get a

good dr....

Thanks for your feedback,

Karin

> these don't look so good...do you still have hypo symptoms? if

so, you could

> use more Armour i would think.

> cindi

>

>

>

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Cindi,

I still have many hypo symptoms and will self medicate until I get a

good dr....

Thanks for your feedback,

Karin

> these don't look so good...do you still have hypo symptoms? if

so, you could

> use more Armour i would think.

> cindi

>

>

>

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Wionna,

Thanks for your help. Would I contact the lab directly? I have the

lab name & location the dr sent it to, do they generaly speak with

the " patient " .

Thanks again,

Karin

>

> The ANA (antinuclear antibody)EIA (enzyme linked immunosorbent

assay)

> results don't tell you anything specific except to say that you

should

> have additional tests done. You need to find out the specificity

of

> the autoantibody that is testing positive. Your doctor should

know of

> a lab that specializes in testing for autoantibodies - these are

not

> your average lab - you should have it sent to a specialty lab. The

> results you have so far may not mean anything significant - but if

the

> antibody can be titred and identified, it would give more of a

clue if

> there is an underlying pathology. Also, different labs report

these

> antibodies differently and used different substrates and

> methodologies. As part of the report, the lab should print out the

> diseases possibly associated with the antibody identified. If not,

> interepretation of the test is very difficult.

>

> Winona

>

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Wionna,

Thanks for your help. Would I contact the lab directly? I have the

lab name & location the dr sent it to, do they generaly speak with

the " patient " .

Thanks again,

Karin

>

> The ANA (antinuclear antibody)EIA (enzyme linked immunosorbent

assay)

> results don't tell you anything specific except to say that you

should

> have additional tests done. You need to find out the specificity

of

> the autoantibody that is testing positive. Your doctor should

know of

> a lab that specializes in testing for autoantibodies - these are

not

> your average lab - you should have it sent to a specialty lab. The

> results you have so far may not mean anything significant - but if

the

> antibody can be titred and identified, it would give more of a

clue if

> there is an underlying pathology. Also, different labs report

these

> antibodies differently and used different substrates and

> methodologies. As part of the report, the lab should print out the

> diseases possibly associated with the antibody identified. If not,

> interepretation of the test is very difficult.

>

> Winona

>

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Thanks Janie! I couldn't believe the Dr with these test(actually I

had false hope....)

Thanks again,

Karin

> Your free T4 is getting near where most folks are on Armour. It's

> your free T3 you want to pay attention to. On an optimal dose of

> Armour, you want your free T3 at the top of the range, if not

over,

> NO MATTER HOW LOW it WILL get your TSH.

>

> Janie

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Thanks Janie! I couldn't believe the Dr with these test(actually I

had false hope....)

Thanks again,

Karin

> Your free T4 is getting near where most folks are on Armour. It's

> your free T3 you want to pay attention to. On an optimal dose of

> Armour, you want your free T3 at the top of the range, if not

over,

> NO MATTER HOW LOW it WILL get your TSH.

>

> Janie

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