4 1/2 weeks on H. enzymes & stimming like crazy!!

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Hello! I posted 2 weeks ago and reported that my son wasn't napping like

normal. At that point, we'd only been doing enzymes for 2 1/2 weeks.

Now, I'm happy to report that he's taking his naps again and we're up to

1 cap Pep and 1 cap Zyme Prime per meal (this is day #3). Behaviorally,

he's doing fairly well but he's stimming like crazy and it's driving us

nuts. I'm hoping that this stimming will level off very soon, since

we've been on the enzymes for over a month now. What should I expect?

Or is this possibly a sign that I need to further increase the enzymes?

Would giving more Zyme Prime, for example, possibly settle down the

stimming? My son was never on the gfcf diet because I didn't think he

had gut issues. His reaction to the enzymes has shown me otherwise! I

would appreciate any insight! Thanks.

Eileen

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Hi Eileen,

I am glad you are seeing progress in your son (taking his naps

again). Is there anything else he is doing that you

consider " positive " ? It sounds like he is just taking longer

to " detox " or withdrawal. On the diet they say it can last awhile and

the enzymes are more thorough than food eliminations.

I will send you the file on hyperactivity which may give you some

ideas. You may want to try a few days of either:

1. increase the Zyme

2. decrease the Peptizyde, as that seems to promote it more than the

Zyme.

Do you know if he has any phenol sensitivities? Or yeast or bacteria?

That would explain some of the stimming. What exactly does he do

to " stim " ?

I usually mention adding magnesium into the diet. Many people on a

typical western or American diet are deficient in magnesium.

Hyperness, anxiety, and muscle twitching is a symptom of magnesium

deficiency. I use magnesium citrate but any soluble mag should help

(not carbonate or oxide). Another supplement is the omega-3 fatty

acids which appear to help with hyperactivitiy.

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Eileen,

Is he still taking the multi-vitamin and what is it?

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My daughter stimmed alot more than usual when we started the enzymes

but it decreased when we cut out her other supplements(TMG and SNT

p5P.)This also cut down significantly on her increased hyper

behavior. I would say it took the full 3 weeks of taking the

enzymes with all foods for the stimming to cool off and for her just

to generally settle down and show alot of improvements. You mentioned

that you were not gfcf so I think it will take longer for your child

to slow down from the withdrawl plus the withdrawl will be worse than

if he was already gfcf. Those of us who were/are on the diet went

through those withdrawls when our kids went gfcf so now the enzymes

are more of a clean up job. Hang in there and good luck!! It has

definitely been worth it for us to stick it out-my daughter is doing

so great on enzymes.

katherine ---

In @y..., and Eileen Rice <eileenrice@j...>

wrote:

> Hello! I posted 2 weeks ago and reported that my son wasn't

napping like

> normal. At that point, we'd only been doing enzymes for 2 1/2

weeks.

> Now, I'm happy to report that he's taking his naps again and we're

up to

> 1 cap Pep and 1 cap Zyme Prime per meal (this is day #3).

Behaviorally,

> he's doing fairly well but he's stimming like crazy and it's

driving us

> nuts. I'm hoping that this stimming will level off very soon, since

> we've been on the enzymes for over a month now. What should I

expect?

> Or is this possibly a sign that I need to further increase the

enzymes?

> Would giving more Zyme Prime, for example, possibly settle down the

> stimming? My son was never on the gfcf diet because I didn't think

he

> had gut issues. His reaction to the enzymes has shown me

otherwise! I

> would appreciate any insight! Thanks.

>

> Eileen

[Guest guest]

Eileen,

I did a search and it doesn't have a ton of B vitamin, but I think

I'd try dropping it for a week or two to see what happens. Some

parents here have found they need to reduce or drop B vitamins once

on enzymes. It may not be what the problem is for your child, but it

would be easy to test. Would love to hear what happens.

> ,

>

> My son is taking a multi-vitamin and mineral supplement by Nature's

Plus

> called Love Bites. It's free of artificial colors, preservatives,

wheat,

> corn, soy, milk, gluten and rye. I usually give him about 3/4 tab.

>

> Eileen