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In frequent-dose-chelation yankeeexile wrote:

A few years ago I started reading The Maker's Diet. I got as far as

the chapter where he gives modern justification for the biblical

prohibition against pork as a food source. I found his arguments

compelling and I haven't been able to eat pork since. I stopped

reading the book because I didn't want to find myself giving up any

other foods, more or less against my will.

---------I think my oldest sister won't eat pork, not sure if she read the

book though. And I believe Huggins says not to eat pork too.-------Jackie

Since many of the glandular-type supplements are derived from pigs, I

haven't used them. But it's hard to find bovine-only sources. So I'm

mostly still just using vegetarian products for digestion and adrenal

support. And not having any remarkable success, especially with the

adrenal support.

-----------I have used two adrenal cortex products, and they are both bovine.

They are Thorne brand Adrenal Cortex (50mg per capsule) and Nutricology(ARG)

brand Adrenal Cortex (250mg per capsule, 100 caps). If you tolerate the higher

dose, then the Nutricology is the better buy, and is available at

iherb.com.---------Jackie

Then I ran across the argument that pigs are routinely used in testing

as substitutes for people since their make-up is so similar. I don't

know if that was on this forum or elsewhere. But I've been wondering

about that... we wouldn't eat humans, but we do use human blood and

organs... so is the argument valid? Is an animal you wouldn't eat a

suitable source for non-food products? In a similar vein, aren't a

lot of the products we use medicinally items that we would not use for

ordinary food sources?

----------You're getting too philosophical for me, sorry! (I'm more

analytical.) If something helps me, I'll take it. And I grew up on a farm, so

maybe that makes a difference on how I think.------------Jackie

What do other people think? I mean besides the obvious that I'm nuts.

This is a real problem for me. Once I'm mentally convinced that a

thing is unhealthy to eat, I become physically ill if I try to eat it,

or find out that I inadvertently have.

-----------I am not trying to make light of your dilemma, so please take the

above comment with a grain of salt. But I do believe that what you just said,

that once you're convinced it's bad for you, it actually makes you physically

ill, can happen. So probably best to avoid it.----------Jackie

My family has stopped trying

to " just not tell me " . But there is a post in the forum discussing

Armour and Jewish dietary laws, and it says that a rabbi said if you

swallowed it encapsulated, it wasn't eating. So, if the Jews can

differentiate between food and non-food... ??

----------This is something you'll have to decide for yourself, because if you

don't believe it, it will probably still make you ill.----------Jackie

I did find one bovine-source Raw Adrenal-the whole gland, not ACE-but

that gave me extreme nausea (my tests indicate I probably over-produce

adrenalin). I'm currently using a ginseng herb blend that's been

discontinued. It gives me just enough improvement to convince me I

need adrenal support, but not enough to actually feel any better. I

can only have one cup of licorice tea a day because of the impact on

my blood pressure. So I'm really out of ideas on how to support my

adrenals without going to glandular products.

------------I mentioned the brands of ACE that I have used above, and I

believe Andy approves of both of them. Otherwise, are you taking other things

that are important for the adrenals, like Vit C, B vitamins, and magnesium? And

some find it very helpful to add 1/4-1/2 tsp of sea salt to water or juice one

or more times a day. And it should be easy to find ginseng products to replace

the one that's been discontinued.----------Jackie

-------------I can't remember if it's here or at adult metal, but we added

some links for adrenal websites that you might want to check out. The book,

Adrenal Fatigue, the 21st Century Stress Syndrome, seems really

good.----------Jackie

This is not something I can discuss with my family, since they already

think I'm nuts. And not without cause. :( But I'm hoping that maybe

other people here will have something to say. Either arguments for or

against, bovine sources, higher quality vegetarian sources...

anything. Anything.

---------Try the bovine sources I listed above. I really feel that ACE makes

a big difference. It seems to do something different than just taking HC. And

things like Vit C and sea salt can help too. Good luck.----------Jackie

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