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>>>>I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

to

continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another - that

was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the place

any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

over there.

Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought " requests

that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

last year that I hardly recognize it.

Pam B.

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>>>>I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

to

continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another - that

was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the place

any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

over there.

Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought " requests

that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

last year that I hardly recognize it.

Pam B.

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Pam,

My suggestion was that we keep graves support for the medical purposes for

which it is intended--and to support each other. Whenever we start some

controversial subject on g_s board, we end up with problems. I don't think

the original post, or the replies to it were necessarily mean spirited, but

merely reflective of the differences among us. As we continue to try to

understand and communicate with each other, these differences are bound to

pop up here and there.

You're right, the board has changed--we are much bigger, and we seem to be

taking responsibility for helping a lot of people. I'd hate to have someone

come to g_s and get so turned off by a seemingly bickering discussion that

they don't feel welcome, or that they are getting support for their medical

needs here. That's why I suggested moving the discussion.

If you'll remember, there have been other discussion topics that have had to

be removed from the board because of controversy. At least if this continue

on the chat forum, nobody who does not want to participate will feel they

might be missing important info by not reading all the posts in g_s.

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:05:09 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

> To: graves_support >

> Subject: Re: the prayer question

>

>>>>> I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

> to

> continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

>

>

> Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another - that

> was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the place

> any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

> over there.

>

> Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

> talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought " requests

> that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

>

> What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

> last year that I hardly recognize it.

>

> Pam B.

>

>

>

>

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> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

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> the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

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Pam,

My suggestion was that we keep graves support for the medical purposes for

which it is intended--and to support each other. Whenever we start some

controversial subject on g_s board, we end up with problems. I don't think

the original post, or the replies to it were necessarily mean spirited, but

merely reflective of the differences among us. As we continue to try to

understand and communicate with each other, these differences are bound to

pop up here and there.

You're right, the board has changed--we are much bigger, and we seem to be

taking responsibility for helping a lot of people. I'd hate to have someone

come to g_s and get so turned off by a seemingly bickering discussion that

they don't feel welcome, or that they are getting support for their medical

needs here. That's why I suggested moving the discussion.

If you'll remember, there have been other discussion topics that have had to

be removed from the board because of controversy. At least if this continue

on the chat forum, nobody who does not want to participate will feel they

might be missing important info by not reading all the posts in g_s.

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:05:09 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

> To: graves_support >

> Subject: Re: the prayer question

>

>>>>> I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

> to

> continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

>

>

> Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another - that

> was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the place

> any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

> over there.

>

> Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

> talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought " requests

> that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

>

> What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

> last year that I hardly recognize it.

>

> Pam B.

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

> Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of

> the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --------

>

>

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then perhaps make a new board for " graves_controversy " or " graves_bickering "

or something. I really don't want bickering in the chat group any more than

I want it here and that was not what it was made for.

P.

-- Re: the prayer question

>

>>>>> I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

> to

> continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

>

>

> Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another -

that

> was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the

place

> any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

> over there.

>

> Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

> talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought "

requests

> that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

>

> What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

> last year that I hardly recognize it.

>

> Pam B.

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

> Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement

of

> the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>

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then perhaps make a new board for " graves_controversy " or " graves_bickering "

or something. I really don't want bickering in the chat group any more than

I want it here and that was not what it was made for.

P.

-- Re: the prayer question

>

>>>>> I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

> to

> continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

>

>

> Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another -

that

> was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the

place

> any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

> over there.

>

> Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

> talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought "

requests

> that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

>

> What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

> last year that I hardly recognize it.

>

> Pam B.

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------

> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not

> intended to replace expert medical care.

> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments.

> ----------------------------------------

> DISCLAIMER

>

> Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement

of

> the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails.

>

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> --------

>

>

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Oh - can't enjoy a bit of fun about it - but can reinforce the fantasy just cos

a democratic 'number' squirts it out?

They aren't joking when they say Amercians don't understand irony..

WAS A JOKE - lighten up people -

....though like all jokes - contains a grain of truth I do think religion is

as much a condition as any...therefore - equally - curable..and I'd have thought

that is entirely sayable..

Velvet - who likes to be UNgrave occasionally - and will

Re: the prayer question

>>>>I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

to

continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another - that

was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the place

any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

over there.

Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought " requests

that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

last year that I hardly recognize it.

Pam B.

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Oh - can't enjoy a bit of fun about it - but can reinforce the fantasy just cos

a democratic 'number' squirts it out?

They aren't joking when they say Amercians don't understand irony..

WAS A JOKE - lighten up people -

....though like all jokes - contains a grain of truth I do think religion is

as much a condition as any...therefore - equally - curable..and I'd have thought

that is entirely sayable..

Velvet - who likes to be UNgrave occasionally - and will

Re: the prayer question

>>>>I'd just like to suggest that the prayer/religion discussion, if it is

to

continue, please move to the graves chat rather than graves support list.

Graves_Chat is not a place for arguing and being mean to one another - that

was not why it was created. If people want to do that, that is not the place

any more than this board is. Please do not send mean spirited discussions

over there.

Also, if " any discussion related to God or a higher entity " are not to be

talked about here, then I assume all the " prayer " or " good thought " requests

that we have seen on here are not appropriate either...

What has happened to this " support " board??? It has changed so much in the

last year that I hardly recognize it.

Pam B.

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Pam, I totally agree with you. Prayer has long been known to be a strong

factor in any healing program. Something has happened to this board and I

hope and others who were offended know there are other boards like the

Graves board at www.mediboard.com where opinions are valued.

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as a final observation from me on this - thread..

briefly I'd like to ask ..do you think any adult is EVER entitled to feel

offended? I thought adults were grown up especially TO deal with things -

adultly?

if they are adult enough to know differences and more importantly to respect

their own - they really won't be offended by Anything - in an adult discussion.

prayer - though - 'is' just one more therapeutic 'process' that could have any

number of reasons for working or not and warrants no MORE nor less respect

'than' any other ..except to the holder of the belief - and that is at their OWN

risk - in the debating of..

if and as long as your own conviction is SO strong - you don't need to run away

to a group of your own..to protect it ..or do you? if you feel you do - perhaps

you need to ask yourself a few more questions about - your - 'actual' -

commitment to your beliefs..for something in yourself may NOT be - telling you

the truth..

after all - I and other non-believers too, appear to 'have' to put up with these

- dogmatic - without seemingly being permitted to comment -

which I may add could also be considered sheer bad manners...if that is an

example of behaviour from the followers of a belief...? etc...

yet I don't feel the need to flee the perpetrators..just because I think they

are delusional as regards 'a' system of belief.

and - it is opinions - which are valued don't you think?

Beliefs - on the contrary - are usually questionable....

Unless one is the believer by the looks of it

'Have a nice day' - I think you might say...

Velvet

Re: the prayer question

Pam, I totally agree with you. Prayer has long been known to be a strong

factor in any healing program. Something has happened to this board and I

hope and others who were offended know there are other boards like the

Graves board at www.mediboard.com where opinions are valued.

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You're babbling Velvet...and it's clear your searching.

Re: the prayer question

>

>

> Pam, I totally agree with you. Prayer has long been known to be a strong

> factor in any healing program. Something has happened to this board and

I

> hope and others who were offended know there are other boards

like the

> Graves board at www.mediboard.com where opinions are valued.

>

>

>

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