Re: What is my baby doing?

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> > >My normally brilliant baby of 4 months (slept through the

> > >night from 5.30pm

> > >to 5.30am, then till about 9am, since aged 5 weeks) has

> > all of a sudden

> > >(since Saturday night) decided not to settle.

>

>

> This probably doesn't help... but I have to say I think it's really

> common! When I was pregnant I remember all those mums moaning that

> their perfect baby had started waking up again at around 4 months,

So is there hope for Rafi my grandson, then? He's 13 weeks and hasn't

ever slept more than four hours at a time at night, and even that was

a fluke. Tavya is so sleep deprived she doesn't even *know* how sleep

deprived she is. On an average night he wakes up 3 times (

Ruthie

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Gosh, I'd have been pleased as punch if DD2 had woken up three times a

night!! She was such a shock to our systems!

She slept from midnight to 9am once when she was 3 months old and then

didn't sleep a night through until she was two and a half. My sleep

patterns have never returned to normal!!!

Lesley

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From: ruthie

So is there hope for Rafi my grandson, then? He's 13 weeks and hasn't

ever slept more than four hours at a time at night, and even that was

a fluke. Tavya is so sleep deprived she doesn't even *know* how sleep

deprived she is. On an average night he wakes up 3 times (

[Guest guest]

Gosh, I'd have been pleased as punch if DD2 had woken up three times a

night!! She was such a shock to our systems!

She slept from midnight to 9am once when she was 3 months old and then

didn't sleep a night through until she was two and a half. My sleep

patterns have never returned to normal!!!

Lesley

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From: ruthie

So is there hope for Rafi my grandson, then? He's 13 weeks and hasn't

ever slept more than four hours at a time at night, and even that was

a fluke. Tavya is so sleep deprived she doesn't even *know* how sleep

deprived she is. On an average night he wakes up 3 times (

[Guest guest]

> Gosh, I'd have been pleased as punch if DD2 had woken up three times

a

> night!! She was such a shock to our systems!

>

> She slept from midnight to 9am once when she was 3 months old and

then

> didn't sleep a night through until she was two and a half. My sleep

> patterns have never returned to normal!!!

>

> Lesley

Do you mind if I don't pass this on to Tavya? She'd not be able to

cope if she thought this was going to go on till two and a half!! You

mean she woke up *more* than 3 times a night????

Ruthie

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Thanks for the advice Nikki,

My HV says he has just discovered his voice and is kind of talking to him

self, and to just go back to sleep and leave him to occupy himself. He was a

big baby at birth and has gained half a pound a week since birth, so she

suggested he may be hungry, but hes not crying so I dont think so!

I guess ear plugs are the answer!!

SAHM to Rohan (4 mths)

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Thanks for the advice Nikki,

My HV says he has just discovered his voice and is kind of talking to him

self, and to just go back to sleep and leave him to occupy himself. He was a

big baby at birth and has gained half a pound a week since birth, so she

suggested he may be hungry, but hes not crying so I dont think so!

I guess ear plugs are the answer!!

SAHM to Rohan (4 mths)

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> Do you mind if I don't pass this on to Tavya? She'd not be able

to

> cope if she thought this was going to go on till two and a half!!

You

> mean she woke up *more* than 3 times a night????

DS2 woke up at least 5-6 times a night until he was around 7

months. I sort of got used to it in the end - mostly he was in our

bed and I just plugged him in and dozed off with him feeding. He

finally stopped when I switched to mixed feeding having been

exclusively BF till then and i went back to work part-time. he was

weaned at 5.5 months - so i suppose this helped (straight onto

lumpy stuff - no purees for him!).

Caroline

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> Do you mind if I don't pass this on to Tavya? She'd not be able

to

> cope if she thought this was going to go on till two and a half!!

You

> mean she woke up *more* than 3 times a night????

DS2 woke up at least 5-6 times a night until he was around 7

months. I sort of got used to it in the end - mostly he was in our

bed and I just plugged him in and dozed off with him feeding. He

finally stopped when I switched to mixed feeding having been

exclusively BF till then and i went back to work part-time. he was

weaned at 5.5 months - so i suppose this helped (straight onto

lumpy stuff - no purees for him!).

Caroline

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I speak to Tavya (in Jerusalem) each morning and she gives me an

update of the previous night's shenanigans with Rafi. Last night he

slept a four hour block first; then pretty much two hourly wakings

after that. I told her it was common, but it's hard when all her

friends' babies are sleeping through (or so it seems to her

anyway).She does take him into her bed after the first waking-up but

he's getting big and taking up a lot of room.

I should point out that orthodox Jews don't sleep in double beds with

their DH's because the laws of marital purity forbid them from having

contact during menstruation amd 7 days after it, ie about half the

month. So she's in a narrow single bed with a growing baby kicking

her in the ribs!

One of the high points of my life was after my hysterectomy, getting a

big white double bed, but, as you might recall, DH snores terribly so

he doesn't share it anyway...well..not for sleeping at any rate!

Ruthie

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> I guess ear plugs are the answer!!

Nah! separate rooms is much better. Out DS was so noisy he was moved the 2nd

night he was home!

[Guest guest]

> I guess ear plugs are the answer!!

Nah! separate rooms is much better. Out DS was so noisy he was moved the 2nd

night he was home!

[Guest guest]

> I guess ear plugs are the answer!!

Nah! separate rooms is much better. Out DS was so noisy he was moved the 2nd

night he was home!

[Guest guest]

> I should point out that orthodox Jews don't sleep in double beds

with

> their DH's because the laws of marital purity forbid them from

having

> contact during menstruation amd 7 days after it, ie about half the

> month>>>>>>

Ruthie would that also include the bleeding after the birth of a baby

or would that be a different matter?

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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> I should point out that orthodox Jews don't sleep in double beds

with

> their DH's because the laws of marital purity forbid them from

having

> contact during menstruation amd 7 days after it, ie about half the

> month>>>>>>

Ruthie would that also include the bleeding after the birth of a baby

or would that be a different matter?

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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> > I should point out that orthodox Jews don't sleep in double beds

> with

> > their DH's because the laws of marital purity forbid them from

> having

> > contact during menstruation amd 7 days after it, ie about half the

> > month>>>>>>

>

> Ruthie would that also include the bleeding after the birth of a

baby

> or would that be a different matter?

>

> Trisha

> SAHM to 3 boys

Yup same thing, any *uterine* bleeding. if you have bleeding in

pregnancy it's the same...with my second baby, DS1, I had spotting

right up until six months pregancy ( Normally one of the nicest

parts of pg and bf is not being separated from one's husband.

After my hysterectomy I was bleeding a little but the Rabbi said it

was OK cos it couldn't have been from my uterus! as I didn't have one!

Ruthie

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> From:

> > I guess ear plugs are the answer!!

>

> Nah! separate rooms is much better. Out DS was so noisy he was moved

the 2nd

> night he was home!

>

Tavya says she hears Rafi through two closed doors, and is worried

he's waking the neighbours up, but won't use earplugs bc she's afraid

of *not* hearing him. Aaah for motherhood ))

Ruthie

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> From:

> > I guess ear plugs are the answer!!

>

> Nah! separate rooms is much better. Out DS was so noisy he was moved

the 2nd

> night he was home!

>

Tavya says she hears Rafi through two closed doors, and is worried

he's waking the neighbours up, but won't use earplugs bc she's afraid

of *not* hearing him. Aaah for motherhood ))

Ruthie

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>So she's in a narrow single bed with a growing baby kicking

>her in the ribs!

She has my sympathies, can't she have a double bed for her and the baby?

Curran

Mum to Tim (7), (5), (3) and Philip 26/10/00

Co-Chair, MVA, Valley cushion agent, homebirth support and booking clerk

Selby Rural NCT

Region 7 Secretary

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Afraid so! She slept in our bed from very early on. It was the only

way to get some rest. She never learnt to latch herself on so every

time she roused slightly she awoke and I had to wake up and reattach

her. Sometimes this would happen six, seven, eight times a night. I

was a zombie, I really was.

We had some respite when she began sucking her thumb at 18 months,

then I went away for two weeks when she was 21/2. She slept perfectly

for DH and started playing up as soon as I got home. Of course, she's

been rumbled by then, so got short shrift!! But even now she is five,

she sleeps very little, with bedtime rarely being before 9pm and often

much later. I think she went to sleep at 11.30 last night. :-(

Lesley

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From: ruthie@

Do you mind if I don't pass this on to Tavya? She'd not be able to

cope if she thought this was going to go on till two and a half!! You

mean she woke up *more* than 3 times a night????

Ruthie

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But even now she is five,

> she sleeps very little, with bedtime rarely being before 9pm and

often

> much later. I think she went to sleep at 11.30 last night. :-(

>>>>>>>>>..

Lesley I would die - I need my sleep. Our 7 1/2 year old is still

bashing around in his bedroom, but at least he gives us some peace

and quiet during the evening just popping in for a cuddle before he

goes to sleep.

The other 2 are fast asleep (even Isaac who settled fairly quicky

this evening).

What time do your others go to sleep and when do they wake up?

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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I felt pretty dreadful when DD1 was small, I have to admit. I'm sure

if she'd been our first child we'd not have had any more! She has

always been very needy when it comes to company and it's only these

past few months since she was 5 that she has allowed me to be in a

different room to her during the day etc.

As for my other children, they are 14, nearly 22 and 26,(26 yr old

away from home, anyway) so they go to bed when they want, though I

have to chase up the 14 yr old sometimes. But they were all

reasonable sleepers when they were younger. Don't know what I did to

deserve DD2!

Lesley

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From: orTrisha

>>>>>>>>>..

Lesley I would die - I need my sleep. Our 7 1/2 year old is still

bashing around in his bedroom, but at least he gives us some peace

and quiet during the evening just popping in for a cuddle before he

goes to sleep.

The other 2 are fast asleep (even Isaac who settled fairly quicky

this evening).

What time do your others go to sleep and when do they wake up?

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> Last night he slept a four hour block first; then

pretty much two hourly

>wakings after that. I told her it was common, but it's

hard when

>all her friends' babies are sleeping through (or so it

seems to her

>anyway).

Yes, it sounds very familiar. Very very. Plus some babies

sleep through all night, but others are touted as ‘sleeping

through’ when they manage to go 5 hours straight.

If she can get her hands on either Nighttime Parenting by

Dr. Sears or Solve your child’s sleep problems by Dr.

Ferber, even if she doesn’t want to follow their advice

(which are polar opposites), she could at least read their

chapters on how babies sleep, how much sleep they need,

etc. It’s very reassuring to know that Rafi and Calvin are

normal

Phyllis

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Yes, it sounds very familiar. Very very. Plus some babies

> sleep through all night, but others are touted as `sleeping

> through' when they manage to go 5 hours straight.

>

> If she can get her hands on either Nighttime Parenting by

> Dr. Sears or Solve your child's sleep problems by Dr.

> Ferber, even if she doesn't want to follow their advice

> (which are polar opposites), she could at least read their

> chapters on how babies sleep, how much sleep they need,

> etc. It's very reassuring to know that Rafi and Calvin are

> normal

>

> Phyllis

Thanks, I'll tell her about those two books.

Ruthie

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