Guest guest Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luci wrote: > Hi everybody, I went to see the new Endo this afternoon armed with the last > test results from Dr. BONEHEAD... His conclusion.. I have T3 Toxicosis.. As I understand it T3 toxicosis is elevated fT3 in the absence of elevated fT4. It can result in complete TSH suppression, whilst the fT4 test is normal, or even low normal. Many Graves' patients have elevated ratios of fT3 to fT4 (IIRC), which is why I pay extra to have my fT3 measured fairly frequently. I've had T3 toxicosis pretty much since I started treamtent after relapse, however the labs weren't measuring fT3 routinely so it was very hard to fathom what was going on, and I assumed my TSH was abnormally low for some other reason - till I learnt more about fT3. Basically you are still hyperthyroid. I get a few " hypo " -like symptoms if my fT4 is suppressed below normal, even if my fT3 is elevated, so I'm a convert to the we need both hormones at " normal " school of thinking. My last " normal " fT3 test result was August 2002 :-( I wouldn't trust any doctor to identify this unless he had TSH, fT4 and fT3 results in front of him at the time! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+SbZdGFXfHI9FVgYRAjkIAJsE6TneAjvKC0CiODOgKy30mk94yACfe+zH Vdb5JfnBxROegCkgPlnIkyY= =sH2A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luci wrote: > Hi everybody, I went to see the new Endo this afternoon armed with the last > test results from Dr. BONEHEAD... His conclusion.. I have T3 Toxicosis.. As I understand it T3 toxicosis is elevated fT3 in the absence of elevated fT4. It can result in complete TSH suppression, whilst the fT4 test is normal, or even low normal. Many Graves' patients have elevated ratios of fT3 to fT4 (IIRC), which is why I pay extra to have my fT3 measured fairly frequently. I've had T3 toxicosis pretty much since I started treamtent after relapse, however the labs weren't measuring fT3 routinely so it was very hard to fathom what was going on, and I assumed my TSH was abnormally low for some other reason - till I learnt more about fT3. Basically you are still hyperthyroid. I get a few " hypo " -like symptoms if my fT4 is suppressed below normal, even if my fT3 is elevated, so I'm a convert to the we need both hormones at " normal " school of thinking. My last " normal " fT3 test result was August 2002 :-( I wouldn't trust any doctor to identify this unless he had TSH, fT4 and fT3 results in front of him at the time! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+SbZdGFXfHI9FVgYRAjkIAJsE6TneAjvKC0CiODOgKy30mk94yACfe+zH Vdb5JfnBxROegCkgPlnIkyY= =sH2A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Simon, Thanks for the reply.. and sorry it took so long for a response. I agree 100% about the DR. having the test results in front of him... and I made sure he had them all .. TPO 4 IU/ML <2 TSH 4.73 MIU/L 0.40 - 5.50 T4, Free 1.0 NG/DL 0.0 -1.8 T3, Free 482 PG/DL 230 - 420 Luci -- Re: T3 toxicosis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luci wrote: > Hi everybody, I went to see the new Endo this afternoon armed with the last > test results from Dr. BONEHEAD... His conclusion.. I have T3 Toxicosis.. As I understand it T3 toxicosis is elevated fT3 in the absence of elevated fT4. It can result in complete TSH suppression, whilst the fT4 test is normal, or even low normal. Many Graves' patients have elevated ratios of fT3 to fT4 (IIRC), which is why I pay extra to have my fT3 measured fairly frequently. I've had T3 toxicosis pretty much since I started treamtent after relapse, however the labs weren't measuring fT3 routinely so it was very hard to fathom what was going on, and I assumed my TSH was abnormally low for some other reason - till I learnt more about fT3. Basically you are still hyperthyroid. I get a few " hypo " -like symptoms if my fT4 is suppressed below normal, even if my fT3 is elevated, so I'm a convert to the we need both hormones at " normal " school of thinking. My last " normal " fT3 test result was August 2002 :-( I wouldn't trust any doctor to identify this unless he had TSH, fT4 and fT3 results in front of him at the time! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+SbZdGFXfHI9FVgYRAjkIAJsE6TneAjvKC0CiODOgKy30mk94yACfe+zH Vdb5JfnBxROegCkgPlnIkyY= =sH2A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luci wrote: > > TPO 4 IU/ML <2 > TSH 4.73 MIU/L 0.40 - 5.50 > T4, Free 1.0 NG/DL 0.0 -1.8 0.0 - 1.8 seems unlikely lab normal to me ;-) > T3, Free 482 PG/DL 230 - 420 Interesting results. My TSH is usually much lower than that when the fT3 is elevated Probably have to include your list of medication(s) for others to make sense of these results. Including other (non-thyroid) medications. With these I wouldn't bet on you feeling either hyper or hypo, and the doctor will probably have to treat based on symptoms. It's days like these when you wish your blood was being sent to Elaine's own lab ;-) I'm losing track of Luci's... sorry... have you had blood tests to confirm autoimmune Thyroid disease (a TPO of 4 might be high, but it isn't the kind of level that couldn't be caused by other thyroid problems). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+TNLXGFXfHI9FVgYRAmmNAKDFS79Lql220+UNc1Q3eAAOA18GGwCgis1p 0YwmbPDFU2f0yJ6Z949bH6o= =aciu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Simon, I requested and had my TSI checked... TSI - 147 Are there any other tests that I should have done?? The new Dr. dropped me from 1 1/2 Grains of Armour to 1 Grain per day. I am also taking Cozzar for my skyrocketing Blood presure. Luci -- Re: T3 toxicosis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Luci wrote: > > TPO 4 IU/ML <2 > TSH 4.73 MIU/L 0.40 - 5.50 > T4, Free 1.0 NG/DL 0.0 -1.8 0.0 - 1.8 seems unlikely lab normal to me ;-) > T3, Free 482 PG/DL 230 - 420 Interesting results. My TSH is usually much lower than that when the fT3 is elevated Probably have to include your list of medication(s) for others to make sense of these results. Including other (non-thyroid) medications. With these I wouldn't bet on you feeling either hyper or hypo, and the doctor will probably have to treat based on symptoms. It's days like these when you wish your blood was being sent to Elaine's own lab ;-) I'm losing track of Luci's... sorry... have you had blood tests to confirm autoimmune Thyroid disease (a TPO of 4 might be high, but it isn't the kind of level that couldn't be caused by other thyroid problems). -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+TNLXGFXfHI9FVgYRAmmNAKDFS79Lql220+UNc1Q3eAAOA18GGwCgis1p 0YwmbPDFU2f0yJ6Z949bH6o= =aciu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER Advertisments placed on this yahoo groups list do not have the endorsement of the listowner. I have no input as to what ads are attached to emails. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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