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Cory - I am new to the group, and just saw your message. I am a 26

year old female, and have had fms since 11 years old, though my mom

thinks I had symptoms since I was much younger.

I am interested in talking to someone of my age, with symptoms

starting in early childhoood. I think that in some ways, my symptoms

are different than someone who didn't have any symptoms until later

on. I think that perhaps my body was able to adjust in some ways,

since I did a lot of growing and maturing, in the midst of the pain

and other stuff.

Have you thought about any of that at all? Are there others in this

group who have also been dealing with fms since childhood?

> Hello Everyone-

>

> My name is Cory Hart; I am a 27-year-old male. I was diagnosed with

> Fibromyalgia in late 1999. I have been suffering with the pain

since

> I was about 7-8 years old. Lately I have been in a real bad flare.

>

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Cory - I am new to the group, and just saw your message. I am a 26

year old female, and have had fms since 11 years old, though my mom

thinks I had symptoms since I was much younger.

I am interested in talking to someone of my age, with symptoms

starting in early childhoood. I think that in some ways, my symptoms

are different than someone who didn't have any symptoms until later

on. I think that perhaps my body was able to adjust in some ways,

since I did a lot of growing and maturing, in the midst of the pain

and other stuff.

Have you thought about any of that at all? Are there others in this

group who have also been dealing with fms since childhood?

> Hello Everyone-

>

> My name is Cory Hart; I am a 27-year-old male. I was diagnosed with

> Fibromyalgia in late 1999. I have been suffering with the pain

since

> I was about 7-8 years old. Lately I have been in a real bad flare.

>

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Cory - I am new to the group, and just saw your message. I am a 26

year old female, and have had fms since 11 years old, though my mom

thinks I had symptoms since I was much younger.

I am interested in talking to someone of my age, with symptoms

starting in early childhoood. I think that in some ways, my symptoms

are different than someone who didn't have any symptoms until later

on. I think that perhaps my body was able to adjust in some ways,

since I did a lot of growing and maturing, in the midst of the pain

and other stuff.

Have you thought about any of that at all? Are there others in this

group who have also been dealing with fms since childhood?

> Hello Everyone-

>

> My name is Cory Hart; I am a 27-year-old male. I was diagnosed with

> Fibromyalgia in late 1999. I have been suffering with the pain

since

> I was about 7-8 years old. Lately I have been in a real bad flare.

>

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Hello-

No, I never thought about it like that! You may be on to something.

Would you like to write a story or article about it? If so E-mail

me.

Sincerely,

Cory

www.nomf.com

> > Hello Everyone-

> >

> > My name is Cory Hart; I am a 27-year-old male. I was diagnosed

with

> > Fibromyalgia in late 1999. I have been suffering with the pain

> since

> > I was about 7-8 years old. Lately I have been in a real bad

flare.

> >

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Hello-

No, I never thought about it like that! You may be on to something.

Would you like to write a story or article about it? If so E-mail

me.

Sincerely,

Cory

www.nomf.com

> > Hello Everyone-

> >

> > My name is Cory Hart; I am a 27-year-old male. I was diagnosed

with

> > Fibromyalgia in late 1999. I have been suffering with the pain

> since

> > I was about 7-8 years old. Lately I have been in a real bad

flare.

> >

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Hello-

No, I never thought about it like that! You may be on to something.

Would you like to write a story or article about it? If so E-mail

me.

Sincerely,

Cory

www.nomf.com

> > Hello Everyone-

> >

> > My name is Cory Hart; I am a 27-year-old male. I was diagnosed

with

> > Fibromyalgia in late 1999. I have been suffering with the pain

> since

> > I was about 7-8 years old. Lately I have been in a real bad

flare.

> >

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?? How is Rebel? I was so worried about you dealing with

the

stress from that and from Mom, how is she doing?? Better I hope!

> Take care Everyone, and if you need me, drop me a line...

> Hallock@a...

>

> Love and {{{HUGZ}}} to Everyone!!!

>

:

Thanks for asking. Rebel is not doing well. I spent the afternoon at

the vet with him . Finally did a chest x-ray and labs ( at my

insistance). CXR was not good. Either small pulmonary

emboli,pulmonary edema (my vote),or lung cancer. Needless to say I am

almost a basket case. He started him on Ascriptin ( asprin with

maloxx)and lasix. I am to call him ASAP if I have any questions or

problems over the weekend. he said he checks the answering machine at

the office several times a day, just in case. I am scheduled for

surgery in Oct 16th and he HAS to be better. Either that or my sister

will have to come a dog sit. no way am I leaving him in the house

with my father in law only checking on him a couple of times a day,

Besides with the lasix he has to be walked more often. Thanks for

thinking of me. Take care .

-SC

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?? How is Rebel? I was so worried about you dealing with

the

stress from that and from Mom, how is she doing?? Better I hope!

> Take care Everyone, and if you need me, drop me a line...

> Hallock@a...

>

> Love and {{{HUGZ}}} to Everyone!!!

>

:

Thanks for asking. Rebel is not doing well. I spent the afternoon at

the vet with him . Finally did a chest x-ray and labs ( at my

insistance). CXR was not good. Either small pulmonary

emboli,pulmonary edema (my vote),or lung cancer. Needless to say I am

almost a basket case. He started him on Ascriptin ( asprin with

maloxx)and lasix. I am to call him ASAP if I have any questions or

problems over the weekend. he said he checks the answering machine at

the office several times a day, just in case. I am scheduled for

surgery in Oct 16th and he HAS to be better. Either that or my sister

will have to come a dog sit. no way am I leaving him in the house

with my father in law only checking on him a couple of times a day,

Besides with the lasix he has to be walked more often. Thanks for

thinking of me. Take care .

-SC

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?? How is Rebel? I was so worried about you dealing with

the

stress from that and from Mom, how is she doing?? Better I hope!

> Take care Everyone, and if you need me, drop me a line...

> Hallock@a...

>

> Love and {{{HUGZ}}} to Everyone!!!

>

:

Thanks for asking. Rebel is not doing well. I spent the afternoon at

the vet with him . Finally did a chest x-ray and labs ( at my

insistance). CXR was not good. Either small pulmonary

emboli,pulmonary edema (my vote),or lung cancer. Needless to say I am

almost a basket case. He started him on Ascriptin ( asprin with

maloxx)and lasix. I am to call him ASAP if I have any questions or

problems over the weekend. he said he checks the answering machine at

the office several times a day, just in case. I am scheduled for

surgery in Oct 16th and he HAS to be better. Either that or my sister

will have to come a dog sit. no way am I leaving him in the house

with my father in law only checking on him a couple of times a day,

Besides with the lasix he has to be walked more often. Thanks for

thinking of me. Take care .

-SC

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In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:23:16 AM Central Standard Time,

wendi_manley@... writes:

> ~Wendi

>

Welcome Wendi! I have two girls with CF and 1 without. We found out about my

girls CF when my oldest was 6. At one time I thought we would try for a

fourth but after there diagnoses I decided there was know way I could handle

3 kids with CF. I just didn't want to take the chance. I wish you the very

best. Deb A

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In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:23:16 AM Central Standard Time,

wendi_manley@... writes:

> ~Wendi

>

Welcome Wendi! I have two girls with CF and 1 without. We found out about my

girls CF when my oldest was 6. At one time I thought we would try for a

fourth but after there diagnoses I decided there was know way I could handle

3 kids with CF. I just didn't want to take the chance. I wish you the very

best. Deb A

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In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:23:16 AM Central Standard Time,

wendi_manley@... writes:

> ~Wendi

>

Welcome Wendi! I have two girls with CF and 1 without. We found out about my

girls CF when my oldest was 6. At one time I thought we would try for a

fourth but after there diagnoses I decided there was know way I could handle

3 kids with CF. I just didn't want to take the chance. I wish you the very

best. Deb A

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Hi Wendi,

welcome to the list. We are in the same situation. We are " working "

on our second child for more than a year now after thinking about it

for four years. Since preimplantation diagnosis (PID) isn't allowed

here in Germany and we don't wanna have another child wcf (a very

difficult decision) we have to play russian roulette. Recently I

spoke with a geneticst about CVS vs. amnio. While generally amnio is

the standard way of prenatal testing she prefers a CVS for the CF

testing. She said that she needs the blood of both parents first (to

make sure that one can distinguish between cells from the mother and

cells from the fetus) and then a CVS is performed at 12 or 13 weeks.

You'll get the results within 10 days then. The only downside is that

there is a higher risk of a miscarriage with CVS (1% vs. 0.3% with

amnios).

Hope this helps. The whole question of prenatal testing is highly

sensibel and in the end a personal decision of the parents. But

fortunately we have been able on this list to discuss it mature and

calmly.

Peace

Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> Hello-

> I am brand new to this group. I am really looking forward to having

people

> to talk to who understand what I am going through. I am the mother

of a

> wonderful 2 and a 1/2 year old. Her name is Peyton . She

was

> diagnosed with CF at 13 months. Thus far we have been very

fortunate, she

> had been very healthy and her specialist is happy with her progress

since

> the diagnosis. (She was diagnosed because of failure to thrive.)

My

> husband and I have always wanted 2+ children and looked forward to

raising

> a family. Peyton is our first child. After her diagnosis I was

hesitant

> to have more children, however I feel that had a lot to do with the

> initial shock and fear of the unknown. Now that we have settled

into a

> routine and my nerves have calmed down, we are trying to have

another

> child. Although we have not conceived yet, (been trying for 6

months) I

> am weighing the pros and cons and options of prenatal testing, CVS

versus

> amnio. Can anyone who has been in this situation offer

suggestions? I

> look forward to hearing from you!

>

> Thanks!

> ~Wendi

>

>

>

>

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Hi Wendi,

welcome to the list. We are in the same situation. We are " working "

on our second child for more than a year now after thinking about it

for four years. Since preimplantation diagnosis (PID) isn't allowed

here in Germany and we don't wanna have another child wcf (a very

difficult decision) we have to play russian roulette. Recently I

spoke with a geneticst about CVS vs. amnio. While generally amnio is

the standard way of prenatal testing she prefers a CVS for the CF

testing. She said that she needs the blood of both parents first (to

make sure that one can distinguish between cells from the mother and

cells from the fetus) and then a CVS is performed at 12 or 13 weeks.

You'll get the results within 10 days then. The only downside is that

there is a higher risk of a miscarriage with CVS (1% vs. 0.3% with

amnios).

Hope this helps. The whole question of prenatal testing is highly

sensibel and in the end a personal decision of the parents. But

fortunately we have been able on this list to discuss it mature and

calmly.

Peace

Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> Hello-

> I am brand new to this group. I am really looking forward to having

people

> to talk to who understand what I am going through. I am the mother

of a

> wonderful 2 and a 1/2 year old. Her name is Peyton . She

was

> diagnosed with CF at 13 months. Thus far we have been very

fortunate, she

> had been very healthy and her specialist is happy with her progress

since

> the diagnosis. (She was diagnosed because of failure to thrive.)

My

> husband and I have always wanted 2+ children and looked forward to

raising

> a family. Peyton is our first child. After her diagnosis I was

hesitant

> to have more children, however I feel that had a lot to do with the

> initial shock and fear of the unknown. Now that we have settled

into a

> routine and my nerves have calmed down, we are trying to have

another

> child. Although we have not conceived yet, (been trying for 6

months) I

> am weighing the pros and cons and options of prenatal testing, CVS

versus

> amnio. Can anyone who has been in this situation offer

suggestions? I

> look forward to hearing from you!

>

> Thanks!

> ~Wendi

>

>

>

>

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WELCOME to the list. You will find many varied answers to all questions,

BUT , that is what is so very great about it here & on the other CF

lists as well.. My daughter has her first child who had CF (18 years

ago) & that was followed by 2 more. Non CF . They are all very happy.

ERIN is currently in hospital , hopefully to get out soon. This is her

first time too. It wasn't a good one, but has ending well .they love

having siblings, so it really is such a personal decision to make. The

testing prior to delivery would let you be more prepared if the wee one

does have CF & also confirm , if it doesn't have. Your choice-not one

anyone else can do . Bless you in whatever way you go. ENJOY those

precious babies:):):)

LOVE & HUGS, grandmomBEV

Hello Everyone

Hello-

I am brand new to this group. I am really looking forward to having

people

to talk to who understand what I am going through. I am the mother of a

wonderful 2 and a 1/2 year old. Her name is Peyton . She was

diagnosed with CF at 13 months. Thus far we have been very fortunate,

she

had been very healthy and her specialist is happy with her progress

since

the diagnosis. (She was diagnosed because of failure to thrive.) My

husband and I have always wanted 2+ children and looked forward to

raising

a family. Peyton is our first child. After her diagnosis I was

hesitant

to have more children, however I feel that had a lot to do with the

initial shock and fear of the unknown. Now that we have settled into a

routine and my nerves have calmed down, we are trying to have another

child. Although we have not conceived yet, (been trying for 6 months) I

am weighing the pros and cons and options of prenatal testing, CVS

versus

amnio. Can anyone who has been in this situation offer suggestions? I

look forward to hearing from you!

Thanks!

~Wendi

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Torsten this is very interesting - we were looking down the amnio way.

Could you explain CVS and why they think it is better for CF testing.

Looking at the miscarrige statistics there amnio seems more sensible.

Please could you tell us more. thank you in advance.

Best wishes

Lucinda Fleming-, with son Dylan 19 months wcf, from Durham in the UK

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To: cfparents

Subject: Re: Hello Everyone

Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:35:07 -0000

Hi Wendi,

welcome to the list. We are in the same situation. We are " working "

on our second child for more than a year now after thinking about it

for four years. Since preimplantation diagnosis (PID) isn't allowed

here in Germany and we don't wanna have another child wcf (a very

difficult decision) we have to play russian roulette. Recently I

spoke with a geneticst about CVS vs. amnio. While generally amnio is

the standard way of prenatal testing she prefers a CVS for the CF

testing. She said that she needs the blood of both parents first (to

make sure that one can distinguish between cells from the mother and

cells from the fetus) and then a CVS is performed at 12 or 13 weeks.

You'll get the results within 10 days then. The only downside is that

there is a higher risk of a miscarriage with CVS (1% vs. 0.3% with

amnios).

Hope this helps. The whole question of prenatal testing is highly

sensibel and in the end a personal decision of the parents. But

fortunately we have been able on this list to discuss it mature and

calmly.

Peace

Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> Hello-

> I am brand new to this group. I am really looking forward to having

people

> to talk to who understand what I am going through. I am the mother

of a

> wonderful 2 and a 1/2 year old. Her name is Peyton . She

was

> diagnosed with CF at 13 months. Thus far we have been very

fortunate, she

> had been very healthy and her specialist is happy with her progress

since

> the diagnosis. (She was diagnosed because of failure to thrive.)

My

> husband and I have always wanted 2+ children and looked forward to

raising

> a family. Peyton is our first child. After her diagnosis I was

hesitant

> to have more children, however I feel that had a lot to do with the

> initial shock and fear of the unknown. Now that we have settled

into a

> routine and my nerves have calmed down, we are trying to have

another

> child. Although we have not conceived yet, (been trying for 6

months) I

> am weighing the pros and cons and options of prenatal testing, CVS

versus

> amnio. Can anyone who has been in this situation offer

suggestions? I

> look forward to hearing from you!

>

> Thanks!

> ~Wendi

>

>

>

>

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Torsten this is very interesting - we were looking down the amnio way.

Could you explain CVS and why they think it is better for CF testing.

Looking at the miscarrige statistics there amnio seems more sensible.

Please could you tell us more. thank you in advance.

Best wishes

Lucinda Fleming-, with son Dylan 19 months wcf, from Durham in the UK

Reply-To: cfparents

To: cfparents

Subject: Re: Hello Everyone

Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:35:07 -0000

Hi Wendi,

welcome to the list. We are in the same situation. We are " working "

on our second child for more than a year now after thinking about it

for four years. Since preimplantation diagnosis (PID) isn't allowed

here in Germany and we don't wanna have another child wcf (a very

difficult decision) we have to play russian roulette. Recently I

spoke with a geneticst about CVS vs. amnio. While generally amnio is

the standard way of prenatal testing she prefers a CVS for the CF

testing. She said that she needs the blood of both parents first (to

make sure that one can distinguish between cells from the mother and

cells from the fetus) and then a CVS is performed at 12 or 13 weeks.

You'll get the results within 10 days then. The only downside is that

there is a higher risk of a miscarriage with CVS (1% vs. 0.3% with

amnios).

Hope this helps. The whole question of prenatal testing is highly

sensibel and in the end a personal decision of the parents. But

fortunately we have been able on this list to discuss it mature and

calmly.

Peace

Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> Hello-

> I am brand new to this group. I am really looking forward to having

people

> to talk to who understand what I am going through. I am the mother

of a

> wonderful 2 and a 1/2 year old. Her name is Peyton . She

was

> diagnosed with CF at 13 months. Thus far we have been very

fortunate, she

> had been very healthy and her specialist is happy with her progress

since

> the diagnosis. (She was diagnosed because of failure to thrive.)

My

> husband and I have always wanted 2+ children and looked forward to

raising

> a family. Peyton is our first child. After her diagnosis I was

hesitant

> to have more children, however I feel that had a lot to do with the

> initial shock and fear of the unknown. Now that we have settled

into a

> routine and my nerves have calmed down, we are trying to have

another

> child. Although we have not conceived yet, (been trying for 6

months) I

> am weighing the pros and cons and options of prenatal testing, CVS

versus

> amnio. Can anyone who has been in this situation offer

suggestions? I

> look forward to hearing from you!

>

> Thanks!

> ~Wendi

>

>

>

>

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Torsten this is very interesting - we were looking down the amnio way.

Could you explain CVS and why they think it is better for CF testing.

Looking at the miscarrige statistics there amnio seems more sensible.

Please could you tell us more. thank you in advance.

Best wishes

Lucinda Fleming-, with son Dylan 19 months wcf, from Durham in the UK

Reply-To: cfparents

To: cfparents

Subject: Re: Hello Everyone

Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:35:07 -0000

Hi Wendi,

welcome to the list. We are in the same situation. We are " working "

on our second child for more than a year now after thinking about it

for four years. Since preimplantation diagnosis (PID) isn't allowed

here in Germany and we don't wanna have another child wcf (a very

difficult decision) we have to play russian roulette. Recently I

spoke with a geneticst about CVS vs. amnio. While generally amnio is

the standard way of prenatal testing she prefers a CVS for the CF

testing. She said that she needs the blood of both parents first (to

make sure that one can distinguish between cells from the mother and

cells from the fetus) and then a CVS is performed at 12 or 13 weeks.

You'll get the results within 10 days then. The only downside is that

there is a higher risk of a miscarriage with CVS (1% vs. 0.3% with

amnios).

Hope this helps. The whole question of prenatal testing is highly

sensibel and in the end a personal decision of the parents. But

fortunately we have been able on this list to discuss it mature and

calmly.

Peace

Torsten, dad of Fiona 5wcf

> Hello-

> I am brand new to this group. I am really looking forward to having

people

> to talk to who understand what I am going through. I am the mother

of a

> wonderful 2 and a 1/2 year old. Her name is Peyton . She

was

> diagnosed with CF at 13 months. Thus far we have been very

fortunate, she

> had been very healthy and her specialist is happy with her progress

since

> the diagnosis. (She was diagnosed because of failure to thrive.)

My

> husband and I have always wanted 2+ children and looked forward to

raising

> a family. Peyton is our first child. After her diagnosis I was

hesitant

> to have more children, however I feel that had a lot to do with the

> initial shock and fear of the unknown. Now that we have settled

into a

> routine and my nerves have calmed down, we are trying to have

another

> child. Although we have not conceived yet, (been trying for 6

months) I

> am weighing the pros and cons and options of prenatal testing, CVS

versus

> amnio. Can anyone who has been in this situation offer

suggestions? I

> look forward to hearing from you!

>

> Thanks!

> ~Wendi

>

>

>

>

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Walt,

so sorry you had such a bad attack. I hope it clears up

soon. You've got my prayers that the pain reduces soon.

Kimber

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Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest and California Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

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Walt,

so sorry you had such a bad attack. I hope it clears up

soon. You've got my prayers that the pain reduces soon.

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest and California Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

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Walt,

so sorry you had such a bad attack. I hope it clears up

soon. You've got my prayers that the pain reduces soon.

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest and California Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

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Hi Walt

Nice to meet another from the NW. I was starting to feel lonely. :-)

I am from Portland. Drop me a line if you want.

K

Hello everyone

Hi there it has been a couple of weeks now on my new diet and meds.

It seems to have stablized everything very well so far :)

My new diet is rather sparse, but works. Oatmeal w/Resource Plus

(ensure) morning and night and a PBJ in the afternoons.

My meds are MSContin 45mgx3, Morformin, doxepin, reglan, Creon

10/20's with meals. Colace and Milk of Magnisia(sp.)

This is really simple and my weight has stabilized.

I have have had days with no pain all day.

Yet, I have started muscle pain aroud my joints( shoulder, ankle) for

about a couple of months now. My PCP is having me see a rhymotolgyst

(sp.) for a posible muscle biopsy?

Walt

Tacoma, WA

PANCREATITIS Association, Intl.

Online e-mail group

To reply to this message hit & quot;reply & quot; or send an

e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo

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Hi Walt

Nice to meet another from the NW. I was starting to feel lonely. :-)

I am from Portland. Drop me a line if you want.

K

Hello everyone

Hi there it has been a couple of weeks now on my new diet and meds.

It seems to have stablized everything very well so far :)

My new diet is rather sparse, but works. Oatmeal w/Resource Plus

(ensure) morning and night and a PBJ in the afternoons.

My meds are MSContin 45mgx3, Morformin, doxepin, reglan, Creon

10/20's with meals. Colace and Milk of Magnisia(sp.)

This is really simple and my weight has stabilized.

I have have had days with no pain all day.

Yet, I have started muscle pain aroud my joints( shoulder, ankle) for

about a couple of months now. My PCP is having me see a rhymotolgyst

(sp.) for a posible muscle biopsy?

Walt

Tacoma, WA

PANCREATITIS Association, Intl.

Online e-mail group

To reply to this message hit & quot;reply & quot; or send an

e-mail to: Pancreatitis (AT) Yahoo

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Actually,, I feel like Darth Vader with it on: And I get the uncontrollable urge

to say: " , I am your mother " !!

lol,

Later

NSIP 08 NC

>

> Subject: Re: Hello Everyone

> To: Breathe-Support

> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 4:04 PM

> C....I know, don't we look funny in the mask?? I

> call mine my snorkel.

> Sure hope you sleep better after the adjustment.

> Are you using the full mask or the blue gel nose mask?

> Good luck w/ new pulmodude.

> MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR.

> Nasturtiums

> Don't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

>

> Hello Everyone

>

>

> Hi my Name is Card

> today I was fitted for my CPAP Mask I call it my going

> diving gear

> I had to Laugh my husband was with me and laughing at me

> while I was trying the mask on ..will see how it goes. I

> can'twait to see my kid's reaction and my dog's

> when I wear the mask . Snorkel snorkel..

> I am trying to look at getting a new Pulmornary Doc.I see

> my Primary Doc tommorow.to see what she can help me with new

> refereal.

>

> Thanks Card

> Springfield Mass

> IPF SEPT 08

> SLEEP APENA 08

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Lucky you....my tech missed the artery 8 times in my wrist before

switching to elbow. Then she blamed it on me being too tense. I

explained later to her that if you'd just been poked eight times you'd

be tense too.

>

> Hi Everyone

> Just wanted to check in and let everyone know I had my Blood Gas Test

done today it went ok harldy felt the needle just a little pinch..

> in the Wrist. just wanted to say I enjoyed talking to Peggy and Joyce

Ken Baker and Lou hope she is doing well.I am trying to get used of

CPAP mask. at night very uncomfortable, plus very bad sinus infection.

> trouble breathing is hard enough .very tired.

>

> Thank you Card 9-08 iPF

> wish you all the best

>

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