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I did not have the afp test for either of my pregnancies. I had heard too many

horror stories about false positive results. Our clubfoot was diagnosed during

a routine ultrasound.

thejuggasmomma angelacanady@...> wrote:

Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have an

AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both were

normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it came

back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did you

have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

information

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I did not have the afp test for either of my pregnancies. I had heard too many

horror stories about false positive results. Our clubfoot was diagnosed during

a routine ultrasound.

thejuggasmomma angelacanady@...> wrote:

Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have an

AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both were

normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it came

back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did you

have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

information

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Hi,

I just wanted to tell you NOT to worry! My sister-in-law had an

abrormal test and everything was fine. My test came back OK and my

son has numerous medical problems. Tests are helpful to screen for

things but don't read too much into it.

Take care,

>

> Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have

an

> AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both

were

> normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

> clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it

came

> back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

> ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

> looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

> make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did

you

> have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

> have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

> information

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I didn't have abnormal AFP's, but I wanted to offer some info about these

tests. First, is this the triple or quad screen? I ask because this makes

a difference in the false positive rate. The " AFP " is historically the

triple screen but some are calling the quad screen an AFP now too. The

triple screen has a very high false positive rate. It's like 75% false

positive. MOST people who have a positive screen will not find any

problems. Depending on what you're concerned about, you can have a level

II or III ultrasound and have them look for indicators on that for things

like downs (nuchal fold) and spinabifida. I you're concerned about m/c

with amnio, this is a good choice to start with and if there is something

suspect there you can then do the amnio to confirm it.

The Quad screen has a lower false positive rate, but it's still there. I

think it's more in the range of 25-30% (don't quote me though - this info

is available on line if you want hard facts). Same as with the other, if

you don't want to jump into amnio (there's a 1% risk of m/c IIRC) right yet

have a level II or III u/s first.

Ask your care provider which screening you had and check out the info

online about that before you worry too much. Really, the false positive

rate is so high with these that many women don't even do them at all

because they don't want to have to worry over nothing.

I don't think it can detect CF anyway - apparently it doesn't even show up

till 17+w on u/s. We had the u/s at 17w5d with Darbi and no one said

anything about her feet. I didn't know till she was born (blessing in

disguise IMO)

Kori & Darbi

At 11:04 AM 11/4/2004, you wrote:

>Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have an

>AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both were

>normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

>clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it came

>back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

>ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

>looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

>make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did you

>have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

>have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

>information

>

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No, I just wanted to see if there was some connection between the

two. They did the ultrasound and said the baby was fine. With

Jordan we had two ultrasounds and they never saw her feet were

clubbed, so we will just have to wait and see. Atleast this time

around we will know what to do. Thanks for the information

>

> Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have

an

> AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both

were

> normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

> clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it

came

> back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

> ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

> looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

> make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did

you

> have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

> have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

> information

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My AFP test came back normal for and she had unilateral CF

(diagnosed at birth, missed during multiple ultrasounds). I am

guessing that the AFP test wouldn't be an indicator for CF.

& (3-16-00)

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My AFP was normal. Ultrasound found the CF at 20wks then confirmed it

again at 28wks. We specificly looked for it due to me having CF also.

KK

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> Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have

an

> AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both

were

> normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

> clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it

came

> back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

> ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

> looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

> make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did

you

> have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

> have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

> information

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just a personal note:

maternal age can impact AFP results. After I turned 36 every

physician, obs. and/or midwife I have seen has advised me that an AFP

test is not reliable due to this. (1986-2004, 4 preganancies, 6

different care-givers and 3 different locations so must be true!)

Because of my age (48 years) we had IN-DEPTH ultrasounds twice with

. Felt like we knew him from the inside out! Nobody caught

his foot...but we didn't do AFP because we were told it would be

basically meaningless at my age.

Margaret

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Not sure what an AFP test is. But my triple screen (testing for things like

Downs, etc. came back normal.) My 5 mo. ultrasound showed the clubfeet. My

Amnio was also normal for any other abnormalities.

thejuggasmomma angelacanady@...> wrote:

Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have an

AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both were

normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it came

back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did you

have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

information

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What is the AFP? Evidently I haven't had the test in either pregnancy but both

my kids are completely normal.....with bilateral clubfeet :)

s.

Abnormal AFP test

Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have an

AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both were

normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it came

back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did you

have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

information

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, don't answer if this is too personal, but what kind of problems? Other

than Aidan's clubfeet he should have been normal. Then he was born 2 1/2 mo.

early and now it's a different story.

& Aidan (blcf 8/5/04)

jaymz3372 ludwig33@...> wrote:

Hi,

I just wanted to tell you NOT to worry! My sister-in-law had an

abrormal test and everything was fine. My test came back OK and my

son has numerous medical problems. Tests are helpful to screen for

things but don't read too much into it.

Take care,

>

> Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have

an

> AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both

were

> normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

> clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it

came

> back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

> ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

> looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

> make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did

you

> have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

> have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

> information

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I had the AFP test with all of the pregnancies and each time they

came back fine including Owen's. I have heard that there is a high

incidence of the 'false positives' with that test.

Hope this helps,

Daiga

> >

> > Just another question, with my first child Jordan we did not have

> an

> > AFP test during the pregnancy. We had two ultrasounds and both

> were

> > normal. We found out when she was born that she had bi-lateral

> > clubfeet. Now, with our second child we had an AFP test and it

> came

> > back abnormal. During the ultrasound I specifically asked the

> > ultrasound tech to check the baby's feet. She said that his feet

> > looked normal. Now, my question is...is clubfoot an idicator to

> > make the AFP test abnormal? And in each of your experiences did

> you

> > have abnormal AFP tests and end up with a child with clubfoot? I

> > have nothing to compare to, but just wondering. Thanks for the

> > information

>

>

>

>

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