Re: Getting heel down into Ponsetti Shoe

[Guest guest]

Jennipher... I have to push down as hard as possible on s knees to be sure

the heels are all the way down. You will almost feel them clicking into the

bottom of the shoe. He still slips out every once in a while, but this is the

best way to be sure they are down.

2/9/04 BLCF DBB 16/7

Raek and Jennipher Assria assrias@...> wrote:

hi everyone!

please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only cried when she

was getting them on....but my question is how can i get her heel to touch her

shoe & is there an easy way of getting them on???

thank you!!!

jennipher

lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

[Guest guest]

Jennipher... I have to push down as hard as possible on s knees to be sure

the heels are all the way down. You will almost feel them clicking into the

bottom of the shoe. He still slips out every once in a while, but this is the

best way to be sure they are down.

2/9/04 BLCF DBB 16/7

Raek and Jennipher Assria assrias@...> wrote:

hi everyone!

please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only cried when she

was getting them on....but my question is how can i get her heel to touch her

shoe & is there an easy way of getting them on???

thank you!!!

jennipher

lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

[Guest guest]

thanks, nicole. does he cry? i'm ready for it if she does, but i don't want to

add to it...

Tichauer ntichauer@...> wrote:Jennipher... I have to push down as

hard as possible on s knees to be sure the heels are all the way down. You

will almost feel them clicking into the bottom of the shoe. He still slips out

every once in a while, but this is the best way to be sure they are down.

2/9/04 BLCF DBB 16/7

Raek and Jennipher Assria assrias@...> wrote:

hi everyone!

please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only cried when she

was getting them on....but my question is how can i get her heel to touch her

shoe & is there an easy way of getting them on???

thank you!!!

jennipher

lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

[Guest guest]

thanks, nicole. does he cry? i'm ready for it if she does, but i don't want to

add to it...

Tichauer ntichauer@...> wrote:Jennipher... I have to push down as

hard as possible on s knees to be sure the heels are all the way down. You

will almost feel them clicking into the bottom of the shoe. He still slips out

every once in a while, but this is the best way to be sure they are down.

2/9/04 BLCF DBB 16/7

Raek and Jennipher Assria assrias@...> wrote:

hi everyone!

please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only cried when she

was getting them on....but my question is how can i get her heel to touch her

shoe & is there an easy way of getting them on???

thank you!!!

jennipher

lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

[Guest guest]

Jennipher,

We had problems keeping the heel down when we first started putting

the 's on Claire. We have found that best way to put them on

is with the her sitting in the corner of a chair. Make sure that her

legs are completely bent underneath her, almost to the point that she

is sitting on top of her own feet. Don't let her kick her legs

straight because the heels will slide. Dr. Ponseti also told us that

the heel will gradually drop into the shoe. It could take weeks.

told us that there is some extra space designed into

the shoe, which makes the heel area a little deeper than the rest of

the shoe. This is for babies with bigger fatter feet. He said that

if you look through the little windows in the back, the heel

shouldn't be above them. If there is a little gap under the heel

that should be fine. That is where Claire's are now, just a tiny

gap. I am still questioning that though. It just makes me nervous

that they are not completely down all the way. I guess I'm just over

concerned because she has been through so much, I don't want to lose

any correction!

Claire 1-16-04( atypical bl cf)

> hi everyone!

>

> please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

>

> she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting them

on???

>

> thank you!!!

> jennipher

> lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Lhea is 5 months old, but I guess my husband can help hold her up while I put

the shoes on? LOL! I don't want to lose any correction either, perhaps it's

paranoia, but she's been through a TAL twice - once at home and once with Dr. P.

as of right now, I can see her heel above the holes and if I put my pinky finger

in, there is room. Dr. P. told me that also by tightening the middle strap is

what helps keep the heel down. I'm wondering if when she's sleeping (although

it would be disruptive to her) if I should try to get this accomplished.

Although she's got the flexion, it just seems hard (I am sure I'll get used to

it) to slip these babies on.

I'm so proud of my little girl. I remember with her DBB's, she cried, cried,

cried. Of course, her feet at that time were not corrected - our doctor felt

that they were, because with hand manipulation, they straightened out - HA!

(sarcastic tone!).

I will try the chair, but any more advice is most certainly welcome.

laura_koester2004 koesterbl@...> wrote:

Jennipher,

We had problems keeping the heel down when we first started putting

the 's on Claire. We have found that best way to put them on

is with the her sitting in the corner of a chair. Make sure that her

legs are completely bent underneath her, almost to the point that she

is sitting on top of her own feet. Don't let her kick her legs

straight because the heels will slide. Dr. Ponseti also told us that

the heel will gradually drop into the shoe. It could take weeks.

told us that there is some extra space designed into

the shoe, which makes the heel area a little deeper than the rest of

the shoe. This is for babies with bigger fatter feet. He said that

if you look through the little windows in the back, the heel

shouldn't be above them. If there is a little gap under the heel

that should be fine. That is where Claire's are now, just a tiny

gap. I am still questioning that though. It just makes me nervous

that they are not completely down all the way. I guess I'm just over

concerned because she has been through so much, I don't want to lose

any correction!

Claire 1-16-04( atypical bl cf)

> hi everyone!

>

> please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

>

> she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting them

on???

>

> thank you!!!

> jennipher

> lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jennipher, it does take some getting used to at the beginning but

before you know it, you'll be able to put them on her with your eyes

closed!

When putting them on, it helps to loosen the laces as much as you can

and pull the sides of the shoe wide open and pull the tongue up and

out of the way (without letting the strap pull out of the slots!). I

ended up knotting the very ends of the laces so that they wouldn't

pull out of the eyelets - it makes loosening the laces and pulling

the shoe open much easier! With the shoe opened up wide, you're able

to 'see' that her foot is flat in the shoe and that her heel is all

the way to the back of the shoe. Then, carefully pull the strap

tight and adjust the tongue (so that it's centered on her foot) as

you do so before fastening the buckle. Once that is done, the lacing

up is relatively easy. I found that having Owen on my lap facing

away from me is easiest for us. If he's particularly curious and

wanting to touch, I can easily pin his arms to his sides while

wrapping my arms around him to fasten his shoes.

Hope this helps,

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

> hi everyone!

>

> please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

>

> she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting them

on???

>

> thank you!!!

> jennipher

> lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Daiga,

She's in shoes - no laces on those. Although I do know what you mean,

she had the DBB's for a while. Those were actually a bit easier on the putting

on department. The shoes are almost like aqua socks with straps.

Three straps. The middle one is the one that was suggested to go on first since

it holds down the heel....

Thanks for your help! I greatly appreciate your words!

Jennipher

Lhea's mom, born 5/28/04; bcf

Daiga Grady daiga.grady@...> wrote:

Jennipher, it does take some getting used to at the beginning but

before you know it, you'll be able to put them on her with your eyes

closed!

When putting them on, it helps to loosen the laces as much as you can

and pull the sides of the shoe wide open and pull the tongue up and

out of the way (without letting the strap pull out of the slots!). I

ended up knotting the very ends of the laces so that they wouldn't

pull out of the eyelets - it makes loosening the laces and pulling

the shoe open much easier! With the shoe opened up wide, you're able

to 'see' that her foot is flat in the shoe and that her heel is all

the way to the back of the shoe. Then, carefully pull the strap

tight and adjust the tongue (so that it's centered on her foot) as

you do so before fastening the buckle. Once that is done, the lacing

up is relatively easy. I found that having Owen on my lap facing

away from me is easiest for us. If he's particularly curious and

wanting to touch, I can easily pin his arms to his sides while

wrapping my arms around him to fasten his shoes.

Hope this helps,

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

> hi everyone!

>

> please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

>

> she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting them

on???

>

> thank you!!!

> jennipher

> lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Daiga,

She's in shoes - no laces on those. Although I do know what you mean,

she had the DBB's for a while. Those were actually a bit easier on the putting

on department. The shoes are almost like aqua socks with straps.

Three straps. The middle one is the one that was suggested to go on first since

it holds down the heel....

Thanks for your help! I greatly appreciate your words!

Jennipher

Lhea's mom, born 5/28/04; bcf

Daiga Grady daiga.grady@...> wrote:

Jennipher, it does take some getting used to at the beginning but

before you know it, you'll be able to put them on her with your eyes

closed!

When putting them on, it helps to loosen the laces as much as you can

and pull the sides of the shoe wide open and pull the tongue up and

out of the way (without letting the strap pull out of the slots!). I

ended up knotting the very ends of the laces so that they wouldn't

pull out of the eyelets - it makes loosening the laces and pulling

the shoe open much easier! With the shoe opened up wide, you're able

to 'see' that her foot is flat in the shoe and that her heel is all

the way to the back of the shoe. Then, carefully pull the strap

tight and adjust the tongue (so that it's centered on her foot) as

you do so before fastening the buckle. Once that is done, the lacing

up is relatively easy. I found that having Owen on my lap facing

away from me is easiest for us. If he's particularly curious and

wanting to touch, I can easily pin his arms to his sides while

wrapping my arms around him to fasten his shoes.

Hope this helps,

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

> hi everyone!

>

> please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

>

> she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting them

on???

>

> thank you!!!

> jennipher

> lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry Jennipher, I responded before I had read the other replies and

only then realized that she was in the shoes!

Good luck, I hope you get it resolved!

Daiga

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It's okay Daiga, I could've used your advice for sure back in August! LOL!!!

Thank you though! Greatly appreciated!!!

Daiga Grady daiga.grady@...> wrote:

Sorry Jennipher, I responded before I had read the other replies and

only then realized that she was in the shoes!

Good luck, I hope you get it resolved!

Daiga

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Jennipher,

The last paragraph that you wrote is our story exactly. Claire is 9

months old now. We started seeing Dr. Ponseti when she was 6 months

old. She was also in the dbb for about 2 months. I feel so bad

looking back at it. We were trying to cram her little uncorrected

feet into the shoes. Our doctor told us that the shoes would finish

the correction. Her feet were still so curved that she couldn't keep

the shoes on for more than 2 minutes with the bar connected. He then

told us that wearing the shoes alone without the bar would do just as

well. I'm so glad I found Dr. Ponseti when I did. I feel very

fortunate.

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Tell me about it, I just don't understand how doctors can claim.....when they

really have no clue. I do know that Dr. Ponseti wrote our first doctor and he

just responded (Dr. P. wrote him about 4 weeks ago.) That doctor claimed that

Lhea was his 3rd or 4th patient with that severity. Yet, he told us that her

feet were not that severe. He also told us to not only keep the shoes on but

manipulate her feet and massage them - they would be normal.

I have much to thank to this board for their encouragement to see Dr. Ponseti!

laura_koester2004 koesterbl@...> wrote:

Jennipher,

The last paragraph that you wrote is our story exactly. Claire is 9

months old now. We started seeing Dr. Ponseti when she was 6 months

old. She was also in the dbb for about 2 months. I feel so bad

looking back at it. We were trying to cram her little uncorrected

feet into the shoes. Our doctor told us that the shoes would finish

the correction. Her feet were still so curved that she couldn't keep

the shoes on for more than 2 minutes with the bar connected. He then

told us that wearing the shoes alone without the bar would do just as

well. I'm so glad I found Dr. Ponseti when I did. I feel very

fortunate.

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi there.. To put 's shoes on I like to sit him on a chair or sofa that

keeps him sitting up straight. I like to slide his foot in from the toe of the

shoe to the back that way the sides of the shoe (yellow rubbery part) doesn't

bend around his foot. Then I pull the tongue over tightly with one hand and

hold with thumb then with the other I fasten the middle strap. Without letting

go of the tongue i fasten the top strap. Once that is done i will tighten the

middle strap and then the top one again. Then all that's next is the toe strap.

Dr. P. did tell us that the foot may not go all the way down or back but that we

should tighten the straps more every so often until it does.. But I think that

is because had such deep creases. Anyways.. I don't know if this will

help you. Thought I'd chime in just incase.. Good luck!

Re: Re: Getting heel down into Ponsetti Shoe

Hi ,

Tell me about it, I just don't understand how doctors can claim.....when they

really have no clue. I do know that Dr. Ponseti wrote our first doctor and he

just responded (Dr. P. wrote him about 4 weeks ago.) That doctor claimed that

Lhea was his 3rd or 4th patient with that severity. Yet, he told us that her

feet were not that severe. He also told us to not only keep the shoes on but

manipulate her feet and massage them - they would be normal.

I have much to thank to this board for their encouragement to see Dr. Ponseti!

laura_koester2004 koesterbl@...> wrote:

Jennipher,

The last paragraph that you wrote is our story exactly. Claire is 9

months old now. We started seeing Dr. Ponseti when she was 6 months

old. She was also in the dbb for about 2 months. I feel so bad

looking back at it. We were trying to cram her little uncorrected

feet into the shoes. Our doctor told us that the shoes would finish

the correction. Her feet were still so curved that she couldn't keep

the shoes on for more than 2 minutes with the bar connected. He then

told us that wearing the shoes alone without the bar would do just as

well. I'm so glad I found Dr. Ponseti when I did. I feel very

fortunate.

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Personally I find the shoes to be a hundred times easier to put on than

the Markels.

s.

Hi Daiga,

She's in shoes - no laces on those. Although I do know what you mean,

she had the DBB's for a while. Those were actually a bit easier on the putting

on department. The shoes are almost like aqua socks with straps.

Three straps. The middle one is the one that was suggested to go on first since

it holds down the heel....

Thanks for your help! I greatly appreciate your words!

Jennipher

Lhea's mom, born 5/28/04; bcf

[Guest guest]

Hi S,

I don't think I've seen the Markels. I know that the DBB's I have were easier

in the sense that they were like shoes. However, I'm almost getting the hang of

her shoes....with almost the heel down! ))) She's sleeping, which

is great for us...however, we co-sleep and I want to begin to wean her

out....it's just so hard to do. She's my first baby and I'm 32 years old...any

one would think I can do this transition easily....but I can't......now with the

bar....gosh.

But, at least she's going with the flow.

Number23 number23@...> wrote:

Personally I find the shoes to be a hundred times easier to put on than

the Markels.

s.

Hi Daiga,

She's in shoes - no laces on those. Although I do know what you mean,

she had the DBB's for a while. Those were actually a bit easier on the putting

on department. The shoes are almost like aqua socks with straps.

Three straps. The middle one is the one that was suggested to go on first since

it holds down the heel....

Thanks for your help! I greatly appreciate your words!

Jennipher

Lhea's mom, born 5/28/04; bcf

[Guest guest]

Hi , thanks for the 'chime' it's going to help.

Today was pretty nifty. I took her to my mom's place today for Halloween to

show Lhea with her costume on to my family. They wanted to see her feet, so I

took a few minutes of my hour and showed her feet.

What I did was lay her down, put the shoe on the way you describe it. Seems to

be working..

Thank you for writing! I greatly appreciate it.

Sterling-Peek poohismybb@...> wrote:

Hi there.. To put 's shoes on I like to sit him on a chair or sofa that

keeps him sitting up straight. I like to slide his foot in from the toe of the

shoe to the back that way the sides of the shoe (yellow rubbery part) doesn't

bend around his foot. Then I pull the tongue over tightly with one hand and

hold with thumb then with the other I fasten the middle strap. Without letting

go of the tongue i fasten the top strap. Once that is done i will tighten the

middle strap and then the top one again. Then all that's next is the toe strap.

Dr. P. did tell us that the foot may not go all the way down or back but that we

should tighten the straps more every so often until it does.. But I think that

is because had such deep creases. Anyways.. I don't know if this will

help you. Thought I'd chime in just incase.. Good luck!

Re: Re: Getting heel down into Ponsetti Shoe

Hi ,

Tell me about it, I just don't understand how doctors can claim.....when they

really have no clue. I do know that Dr. Ponseti wrote our first doctor and he

just responded (Dr. P. wrote him about 4 weeks ago.) That doctor claimed that

Lhea was his 3rd or 4th patient with that severity. Yet, he told us that her

feet were not that severe. He also told us to not only keep the shoes on but

manipulate her feet and massage them - they would be normal.

I have much to thank to this board for their encouragement to see Dr. Ponseti!

laura_koester2004 koesterbl@...> wrote:

Jennipher,

The last paragraph that you wrote is our story exactly. Claire is 9

months old now. We started seeing Dr. Ponseti when she was 6 months

old. She was also in the dbb for about 2 months. I feel so bad

looking back at it. We were trying to cram her little uncorrected

feet into the shoes. Our doctor told us that the shoes would finish

the correction. Her feet were still so curved that she couldn't keep

the shoes on for more than 2 minutes with the bar connected. He then

told us that wearing the shoes alone without the bar would do just as

well. I'm so glad I found Dr. Ponseti when I did. I feel very

fortunate.

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi , thanks for the 'chime' it's going to help.

Today was pretty nifty. I took her to my mom's place today for Halloween to

show Lhea with her costume on to my family. They wanted to see her feet, so I

took a few minutes of my hour and showed her feet.

What I did was lay her down, put the shoe on the way you describe it. Seems to

be working..

Thank you for writing! I greatly appreciate it.

Sterling-Peek poohismybb@...> wrote:

Hi there.. To put 's shoes on I like to sit him on a chair or sofa that

keeps him sitting up straight. I like to slide his foot in from the toe of the

shoe to the back that way the sides of the shoe (yellow rubbery part) doesn't

bend around his foot. Then I pull the tongue over tightly with one hand and

hold with thumb then with the other I fasten the middle strap. Without letting

go of the tongue i fasten the top strap. Once that is done i will tighten the

middle strap and then the top one again. Then all that's next is the toe strap.

Dr. P. did tell us that the foot may not go all the way down or back but that we

should tighten the straps more every so often until it does.. But I think that

is because had such deep creases. Anyways.. I don't know if this will

help you. Thought I'd chime in just incase.. Good luck!

Re: Re: Getting heel down into Ponsetti Shoe

Hi ,

Tell me about it, I just don't understand how doctors can claim.....when they

really have no clue. I do know that Dr. Ponseti wrote our first doctor and he

just responded (Dr. P. wrote him about 4 weeks ago.) That doctor claimed that

Lhea was his 3rd or 4th patient with that severity. Yet, he told us that her

feet were not that severe. He also told us to not only keep the shoes on but

manipulate her feet and massage them - they would be normal.

I have much to thank to this board for their encouragement to see Dr. Ponseti!

laura_koester2004 koesterbl@...> wrote:

Jennipher,

The last paragraph that you wrote is our story exactly. Claire is 9

months old now. We started seeing Dr. Ponseti when she was 6 months

old. She was also in the dbb for about 2 months. I feel so bad

looking back at it. We were trying to cram her little uncorrected

feet into the shoes. Our doctor told us that the shoes would finish

the correction. Her feet were still so curved that she couldn't keep

the shoes on for more than 2 minutes with the bar connected. He then

told us that wearing the shoes alone without the bar would do just as

well. I'm so glad I found Dr. Ponseti when I did. I feel very

fortunate.

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I had my first at 33 (I think? haha) and we co-slept for years but he wasn't in

the DBB, just lots and lots and lots of casts (non ponseti nightmare). My 2nd

boy is 13 months old now and we tried the co-sleep with him but it didn't work

out. The DBB is hard to sleep with on a small bed, none of us were comfortable

so I moved baby in to his own bed and that started helping a lot. I know, it's

sad, broke my heart cuz I love to cuddle with them at night and know they are

safe right beside me, but it's been better for him actually. Just keep his

little bed right there beside you. We started this several months ago and he

still woke up a lot at night - but interestingly - we bought a house this summer

with only ONE bedroom! UGH! So we were all stacked up in there till we could

begin the room addition. Recently I moved our bed to the living room to make

space for construction, leaving the two boys in the bedroom and baby has started

sleeping through the night. I am wondering if in this particular case

sleeping away from him is actually the golden key here - maybe waking up and

seeing me with in reach prompted him to wake up more?

s.

Re: Re: Getting heel down into Ponsetti Shoe

Hi S,

I don't think I've seen the Markels. I know that the DBB's I have were easier

in the sense that they were like shoes. However, I'm almost getting the hang of

her shoes....with almost the heel down! ))) She's sleeping, which

is great for us...however, we co-sleep and I want to begin to wean her

out....it's just so hard to do. She's my first baby and I'm 32 years old...any

one would think I can do this transition easily....but I can't......now with the

bar....gosh.

But, at least she's going with the flow.

Number23 number23@...> wrote:

Personally I find the shoes to be a hundred times easier to put on than

the Markels.

s.

Hi Daiga,

She's in shoes - no laces on those. Although I do know what you mean,

she had the DBB's for a while. Those were actually a bit easier on the putting

on department. The shoes are almost like aqua socks with straps.

Three straps. The middle one is the one that was suggested to go on first since

it holds down the heel....

Thanks for your help! I greatly appreciate your words!

Jennipher

Lhea's mom, born 5/28/04; bcf

[Guest guest]

With my first son it was better for him to be in his own bed and now with

he is right next to me. slept through the night at 6 weeks

old. started at 3 months, right when he got the bar. Funny huh. I

have not had any major issues. I guess I am one of the lucky ones.......

Dawn

9/14/02

7/20/04, bcf dbb 23/24

Number23 number23@...> wrote:

I had my first at 33 (I think? haha) and we co-slept for years but he wasn't in

the DBB, just lots and lots and lots of casts (non ponseti nightmare). My 2nd

boy is 13 months old now and we tried the co-sleep with him but it didn't work

out. The DBB is hard to sleep with on a small bed, none of us were comfortable

so I moved baby in to his own bed and that started helping a lot. I know, it's

sad, broke my heart cuz I love to cuddle with them at night and know they are

safe right beside me, but it's been better for him actually. Just keep his

little bed right there beside you. We started this several months ago and he

still woke up a lot at night - but interestingly - we bought a house this summer

with only ONE bedroom! UGH! So we were all stacked up in there till we could

begin the room addition. Recently I moved our bed to the living room to make

space for construction, leaving the two boys in the bedroom and baby has started

sleeping through the night. I am wondering

if in this particular case sleeping away from him is actually the golden key

here - maybe waking up and seeing me with in reach prompted him to wake up more?

s.

Re: Re: Getting heel down into Ponsetti Shoe

Hi S,

I don't think I've seen the Markels. I know that the DBB's I have were easier

in the sense that they were like shoes. However, I'm almost getting the hang of

her shoes....with almost the heel down! ))) She's sleeping, which

is great for us...however, we co-sleep and I want to begin to wean her

out....it's just so hard to do. She's my first baby and I'm 32 years old...any

one would think I can do this transition easily....but I can't......now with the

bar....gosh.

But, at least she's going with the flow.

Number23 number23@...> wrote:

Personally I find the shoes to be a hundred times easier to put on than

the Markels.

s.

Hi Daiga,

She's in shoes - no laces on those. Although I do know what you mean,

she had the DBB's for a while. Those were actually a bit easier on the putting

on department. The shoes are almost like aqua socks with straps.

Three straps. The middle one is the one that was suggested to go on first since

it holds down the heel....

Thanks for your help! I greatly appreciate your words!

Jennipher

Lhea's mom, born 5/28/04; bcf

[Guest guest]

Hey.. I am glad you guys addressed this issue. Ava has been in the

's for almost 3wks. Few days shy. I was wondering about this

myself. I have notice the L foot does stay down better than her R. I

pull the R so tight that I am now going to have to go to the local

shoemaker to see if he can restitch the part where the middle buckle

is. The stitching is starting to come loose. We do go back to Dr.

Ponseti the beginning of Dec. She will be having another tenotomy. I

am just trying to maintain the correction he achived when we were

there is Sept. I find that she is relapsing a little bit only on the

R and don't want to loose any more correction. Our previous doctors

said the say thing you posted. The feet would finish correcting

itself with the Markells and when she began weight bearing. She was

only 3 months old. The info they gave didn't sound good to me so

contacted Dr. P. Again, thanks for addressing this!

KK

> > > hi everyone!

> > >

> > > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> > >

> > > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did

great...only

> > cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can

i

> > get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

> them

> > on???

> > >

> > > thank you!!!

> > > jennipher

> > > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

jennipher,

Just took notice of Lhea's DOB 5/28/04. Ava is 5/27/04. Looks like

were kind of in the same position.

KK

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just a question to add to the 's. When we first put Ava in

the shoes I was able to use the (example) 4th hole then gradually the

5th hole. It's been almost 3wks and now I can't get the 5th hole

anymore. Do you think it might be due to growth?? I was hoping I

could still use the 5th only due to the suede stretching. Make sense??

KK

> > > > hi everyone!

> > > >

> > > > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> > > >

> > > > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did

> great...only

> > > cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how

can

> i

> > > get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of

getting

> > them

> > > on???

> > > >

> > > > thank you!!!

> > > > jennipher

> > > > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

The suede stretches but also the child grows, so don't insist on a certain

hole, just insist on the right fit.

s.

Re: Getting heel down into Ponsetti Shoe

Just a question to add to the 's. When we first put Ava in

the shoes I was able to use the (example) 4th hole then gradually the

5th hole. It's been almost 3wks and now I can't get the 5th hole

anymore. Do you think it might be due to growth?? I was hoping I

could still use the 5th only due to the suede stretching. Make sense??

KK

> > > > hi everyone!

> > > >

> > > > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> > > >

> > > > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did

> great...only

> > > cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how

can

> i

> > > get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of

getting

> > them

> > > on???

> > > >

> > > > thank you!!!

> > > > jennipher

> > > > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi KK, yes, I saw that too, on a previous email - the one where you were happy

it was addressed and we go to Dr. P. in December as well. When is your

appointment? Ours is the 2nd or 3rd. Wow, one day older! Feels funny to

say that.

fabegirls fabegirls@...> wrote:

jennipher,

Just took notice of Lhea's DOB 5/28/04. Ava is 5/27/04. Looks like

were kind of in the same position.

KK

> > hi everyone!

> >

> > please excuse my lower case letters....i am holding lhea....

> >

> > she got her shoes on from dr. p yesterday. she did great...only

> cried when she was getting them on....but my question is how can i

> get her heel to touch her shoe & is there an easy way of getting

them

> on???

> >

> > thank you!!!

> > jennipher

> > lhea's mommy; bcf 5/28/04

> >

> >

> >