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Hello,

I need some advise. I declined the mmr and dtap

boosters at my son's five year old physical. He'll be

entering Kindergarten in the fall, so, the vaccine

issue will be raised again at his next physical this

summer.

What have any of you done in this regard? Do I go

ahead with the waiver, and decline boosters? Do I ask

for each to be given as individual shots, over time(I

dislike this idea)? For the past six months, we have

been working on healing his gut, etc. Will it be safe

to get these boosters, as long as they are thimerisol

free? I worry about not vaccinating him, and I am

terrified to go ahead with them. Any advice would be

appreciated!

Thanks, in advance.

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Why not request a titer test be done on your son? I was reading that

many children do not even need boosters because they still have

pleanty of immunity from provious shots. The sure way to tell would be

to have a titer test run every year.

Patti

- In @y..., Rudnicki <brendansmom96@y...> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I need some advise. I declined the mmr and dtap

> boosters at my son's five year old physical. He'll be

> entering Kindergarten in the fall, so, the vaccine

> issue will be raised again at his next physical this

> summer.

> What have any of you done in this regard? Do I go

> ahead with the waiver, and decline boosters? Do I ask

> for each to be given as individual shots, over time(I

> dislike this idea)? For the past six months, we have

> been working on healing his gut, etc. Will it be safe

> to get these boosters, as long as they are thimerisol

> free? I worry about not vaccinating him, and I am

> terrified to go ahead with them. Any advice would be

> appreciated!

>

> Thanks, in advance.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

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My vote is for doing a waiver and no vax. I don't believe that Thimerisol

is the only problem with the vaccines, and I think there's way too much

circumstantial evidence that they make our kids worse. I'm not giving any

of my kids more vaccines. If you want to protect your son, read up on

measles, mumps and rubella, know the risk factors, improve his diet and his

immune system all you can. You know, in past generations, most people

caught these diseases at one time or another, usually with not much effect

on their long-term health, especially if they had good basic nutrition, etc.

Terri

At 11:23 AM 2/17/02 -0800, you wrote:

>Hello,

>

>I need some advise. I declined the mmr and dtap

>boosters at my son's five year old physical. He'll be

>entering Kindergarten in the fall, so, the vaccine

>issue will be raised again at his next physical this

>summer.

> What have any of you done in this regard? Do I go

>ahead with the waiver, and decline boosters? Do I ask

>for each to be given as individual shots, over time(I

>dislike this idea)? For the past six months, we have

>been working on healing his gut, etc. Will it be safe

>to get these boosters, as long as they are thimerisol

>free? I worry about not vaccinating him, and I am

>terrified to go ahead with them. Any advice would be

>appreciated!

>

>Thanks, in advance.

>

>

>

>__________________________________________________

>

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Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:23:52 -0800 (PST)

From: Rudnicki <brendansmom96@...>

Subject: vaccine advice

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What have any of you done in this regard?

once mine mind had begun to comprehend some of the issues with vaccines,

immediately made the decision to not vaccinate the children anymore... (son had

all his " childhood " vacines, daughter did not have her boosters after age 4 or

so)

Do I go

ahead with the waiver, and decline boosters?

ONLY you and your family should make this decision.. noone (not even docs)

should " suggest " /pressure you to do either... decline or accept the boosters....

something like this is a very personal decision...

(personally many of us have strong opinions one way or another on this issue,

and none of us should ever show any distaste towards any other person for making

the decisions that they feel is best for them)

Do I ask

for each to be given as individual shots, over time(I

dislike this idea)?

again, no advice here either way... but wanted to be a mirror for you for a

moment... you dislike this idea... perhaps you could look at this issue again..

why you dislike this idea? (not asking you to write here to answer, more like

asking questions you perhaps could look at .. )

For the past six months, we have

been working on healing his gut, etc. Will it be safe

to get these boosters, as long as they are thimerisol

free?

seems that your questions point to the fact that you may want/need more info to

help yourself decide what is best.... some say info is a good weapon.. info is

also a good bed... a good bed is supportive, helps you rest, and leaves you

feeling better....

I worry about not vaccinating him, and I am

terrified to go ahead with them.

those are STRONG words.... WORRY and TERRIFIED are two very strong words

acompanying big issues... feelings are always a good indicator for our thinking

minds... feelings let us know about underlying intuition... intuition is the

wisdom of ages of generations of wise women (and men in the case of them) who

have come before us... your intuition is a good guide... intuition can often be

tapped into once feelings are being excavated...

perhaps the only advice that am able to offer is this simple suggestion...

make a list.

a list of ALL the things you can think of that you worry about and are scared

about.. in both cases.. (make it like a running list one list on one side of the

page and the other list right beside it on the otherside of the page, this way

your lists can be put right beside each other and it may be easier to decipher

the info you gather)... what is scary and worrisome about having your family

vaccinated.. then about not doing it... then after each item on the list.. place

things that could help relieve that problem.. for example.. if no vaccine.. then

one fear could be 'what if he/she gets this disease " ... then you could research

the info, and find out what COULD happen if your child did get that disease...

the rates of that disease in your community, area, country etc. the

complications etc. the same for vaccinating them.. what could happen if you

did.. so forth.. perhaps this will help you decide if you are able to look at

your fears, concerns etc. on paper in front of you... it is like a list owhat

you gain, and what you could loose for either scenario.. vaccinate or not...

am aware that this does not " solve " your problem... but am sure it is more

empowering for anyone to decide for themselves...

danas site has much info on vaccines, what is in them.. etc.

you could start your research from her site map at:

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/sitemap.htm

Any advice would be

appreciated!

Thanks, in advance.

well not much of an advice giver, but am certainly good at talking lots.. lol

hope some of it is helpful in some way...

minna

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I would have titers tested. Only 10% of children lack titers after the original

boosters (why the heck they vaccinate the other 90%...I don't know...HMMM

MONEY???) Have the titers drawn (blood test) and if they come back positive, you

don't need the vax-Shari

[ ] vaccine advice

Hello,

I need some advise. I declined the mmr and dtap

boosters at my son's five year old physical. He'll be

entering Kindergarten in the fall, so, the vaccine

issue will be raised again at his next physical this

summer.

What have any of you done in this regard? Do I go

ahead with the waiver, and decline boosters? Do I ask

for each to be given as individual shots, over time(I

dislike this idea)? For the past six months, we have

been working on healing his gut, etc. Will it be safe

to get these boosters, as long as they are thimerisol

free? I worry about not vaccinating him, and I am

terrified to go ahead with them. Any advice would be

appreciated!

Thanks, in advance.

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one thing I can tell you... if you do go ahead with vaccinations, make

sure you request ONLY thimerosal free vaccines. All children's

vaccinations are available without thimerosal.

my website has more on the many names of thimerosal....click on

" Important Vaccine Info " on this site (middle section).

http://www.autismhelpforyou.com/

Jeanne A. Brohart

Rudnicki wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I need some advise. I declined the mmr and dtap

> boosters at my son's five year old physical. He'll be

> entering Kindergarten in the fall, so, the vaccine

> issue will be raised again at his next physical this

> summer.

> What have any of you done in this regard? Do I go

> ahead with the waiver, and decline boosters? Do I ask

> for each to be given as individual shots, over time(I

> dislike this idea)? For the past six months, we have

> been working on healing his gut, etc. Will it be safe

> to get these boosters, as long as they are thimerisol

> free? I worry about not vaccinating him, and I am

> terrified to go ahead with them. Any advice would be

> appreciated!

>

> Thanks, in advance.

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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> one thing I can tell you... if you do go ahead with vaccinations,

make

> sure you request ONLY thimerosal free vaccines. All children's

> vaccinations are available without thimerosal.

This is not an accurate statement. There are still children's

vaccines which are produced with thimerosal, plus existing stock was

not recalled, so even if the current production does not contain

thimerosal, the vial at the ped's office may be an old one with

thimerosal, so you still have to individually check each one.

Here is the list of current production.

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

Here is my vax opinion

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/myvaxopn.htm

Dana

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I know that there are still vaccines with thimerosal out there...what I

am saying is to KNOW to ASK for thimerosal free vaccines...all childhood

vaccinations are available without thimerosal. I made no comment

whatsoever about the fact that there are still not thimerosal containing

vaccines.

my point is simply that you have to KNOW to ASK for those without it...

that in itself implies there are still some with thimerosal!

Jeanne A. Brohart

danaatty wrote:

>

> > one thing I can tell you... if you do go ahead with vaccinations,

> make

> > sure you request ONLY thimerosal free vaccines. All children's

> > vaccinations are available without thimerosal.

>

> This is not an accurate statement. There are still children's

> vaccines which are produced with thimerosal, plus existing stock was

> not recalled, so even if the current production does not contain

> thimerosal, the vial at the ped's office may be an old one with

> thimerosal, so you still have to individually check each one.

>

> Here is the list of current production.

>

> http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

>

> Here is my vax opinion

>

> http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/myvaxopn.htm

>

> Dana

>

>

>

>

>

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