Guest guest Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hi Allyn, Lord knows I am no expert, I have only been on the board for about 4 months or so, so am new at this but I think you may get advise from some of the more experienced mommies that you may want to take your little girl in to get her feet looked at. The top of the feet curving in could be a sign of relapse. Hopefully not but better to get it checked sooner than later I would think. & Grace Unilateral RCF DBB 16 hrs > > Hey y'all, > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > her foot kinda curves. / > / > / > / > | > | > \ > \ > \ > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, she > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > Allyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Isn't this what they refer to as the foot being Kidney Shaped? I don't think it's supposed to be shaped that way. s. wondering about dd's foot position Hey y'all, I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, her foot kinda curves. / / / / | | \ \ \ kinda like that (sorry not good at images) So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, she seems to walk fine with no pain. Allyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which can be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is my understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never hurts to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have caught it early. Angel wondering about dd's foot position Hey y'all, I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, her foot kinda curves. / / / / | | \ \ \ kinda like that (sorry not good at images) So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, she seems to walk fine with no pain. Allyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Does anyone know if there are pics of this in the files? I would just like to see what it looks like. When you have metatarsal adductus do you tend to say " roll on the lateral side of the foot " or would that be something different? Thanks KK > That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which can be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is my understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never hurts to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have caught it early. > > Angel > > wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > Hey y'all, > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > her foot kinda curves. / > / > / > / > | > | > \ > \ > \ > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, she > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > Allyn > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Does anyone know if there are pics of this in the files? I would just like to see what it looks like. When you have metatarsal adductus do you tend to say " roll on the lateral side of the foot " or would that be something different? Thanks KK > That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which can be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is my understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never hurts to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have caught it early. > > Angel > > wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > Hey y'all, > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > her foot kinda curves. / > / > / > / > | > | > \ > \ > \ > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, she > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > Allyn > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I wish I had photos of my dd's feet ... I do have a few that show my son's tho. If you are subbed to CFPics I can send them thru there. And no, metatarsal adduction would not cause walking on the lateral side of the foot by itself. MA just causes the bones of the forefoot to be out of allignment with the hindfoot. The bones remain on the same plane. Now, there is a muscle imballance, probably related to MA, that can cause the rolling. It is when the muscles of the inside of the ankle and those of the outside dont ballance eachother well and cause the ankle to be generally unstable. Also, the first thing that should be checked for if the foot is rolling is relapse. It doesnt necessarily mean a relapse, but it can. (My son had/has both MA and this muscle imballance, but no relapse last time Dr Mosca) Angel wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > Hey y'all, > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > her foot kinda curves. / > / > / > / > | > | > \ > \ > \ > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, she > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > Allyn > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I have some pictures of Jordan's feet and she has metatarsal adductus. I wouldn't even know how to put them up, but I could send them to you if you would like a comparison. > > That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which can > be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is my > understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never hurts > to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is > harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have > caught it early. > > > > Angel > > > > wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > > > > > > Hey y'all, > > > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > > her foot kinda curves. / > > / > > / > > / > > | > > | > > \ > > \ > > \ > > > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, > she > > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > > > Allyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 I am sorry, I also should have said that judging by the pictures of Jordan's feet, both Dr. Ponseti and Dr. Frick thought that she should go back in casts because they thought by the pictures that it was a relapse. Not until Dr. Frick examined her feet did he decide that she still has all of the mobility in her feet. The way metatarsal abductus looks is very simular to the way a club foot looks when it is beginning to relaspe. My suggestion would be to have someone look at her foot. Dr. Frick said that a relapse would be indicated by the metatarsal abductus, the child walking on the outside of the feet and if the heel is no longer touching the ground when the child walks. He also said that he wanted to monitor Jordan's feet to be sure that she is not having a relapse. But, I do have the pictures of her feet if you would like to compare. > > > That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which > can > > be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is > my > > understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never > hurts > > to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is > > harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have > > caught it early. > > > > > > Angel > > > > > > wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey y'all, > > > > > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My > daughter > > > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about > 2+ > > > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look > strange > > > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > > > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking > straight > > > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe > kinda > > > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big > toe > > > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with > the > > > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being > straight, > > > her foot kinda curves. / > > > / > > > / > > > / > > > | > > > | > > > \ > > > \ > > > \ > > > > > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > > > > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, > > she > > > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > > > > > Allyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Hi Angel, Thanks for the info. I can view the photos in CFpics but I don't get them through my email. I typically just view online. Maybe there is something I'm missing??? KK > > That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which can > be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is my > understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never hurts > to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is > harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have > caught it early. > > > > Angel > > > > wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > > > > > > Hey y'all, > > > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > > her foot kinda curves. / > > / > > / > > / > > | > > | > > \ > > \ > > \ > > > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, > she > > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > > > Allyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 yahoo doesnt save photos online anymore, so if you want to see the pics that people send in the messages you have to receive e-mails. CFPics doesnt have alot of message traffic, so it doesnt fill up your box or anything. Angel wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > > > > > > Hey y'all, > > > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > > her foot kinda curves. / > > / > > / > > / > > | > > | > > \ > > \ > > \ > > > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, > she > > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > > > Allyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 yahoo doesnt save photos online anymore, so if you want to see the pics that people send in the messages you have to receive e-mails. CFPics doesnt have alot of message traffic, so it doesnt fill up your box or anything. Angel wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > > > > > > Hey y'all, > > > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about 2+ > > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look strange > > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking straight > > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe kinda > > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being straight, > > her foot kinda curves. / > > / > > / > > / > > | > > | > > \ > > \ > > \ > > > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, > she > > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > > > Allyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Angel, o.K. I edited my membership. So if you could send them to me. I for some reason was thinking that my membership to this group also controlled the cfpics as well. So I was missing something! A few brain cells perhaps. LOL KK > > > That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which > can > > be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is my > > understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never hurts > > to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is > > harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have > > caught it early. > > > > > > Angel > > > > > > wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey y'all, > > > > > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > > > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about > 2+ > > > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look > strange > > > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > > > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking > straight > > > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe > kinda > > > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > > > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > > > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being > straight, > > > her foot kinda curves. / > > > / > > > / > > > / > > > | > > > | > > > \ > > > \ > > > \ > > > > > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > > > > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, > > she > > > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > > > > > Allyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Angel, o.K. I edited my membership. So if you could send them to me. I for some reason was thinking that my membership to this group also controlled the cfpics as well. So I was missing something! A few brain cells perhaps. LOL KK > > > That looks like forefoot adduction (metatarsus adductuts) which > can > > be totally harmless or can signal the start of a relapse. It is my > > understanding that it is pretty common in clubfoot. It never hurts > > to have the feet checked if you notice some change. If it is > > harmless then you have peace of mind, and if it isnt then you have > > caught it early. > > > > > > Angel > > > > > > wondering about dd's foot position > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey y'all, > > > > > > I havent been real active lately but i had a concern. My daughter > > > (dd) has finally started walking, she has been walking for about > 2+ > > > months. I have been watching her feet lately and they look > strange > > > to me. I will try to explain what i see when se walks. if she is > > > standing i front of me with her back turned to me, looking > straight > > > ahead at the way her leg and her big toe line up, her big toe > kinda > > > curves around. if you look at a normal persons foot there big toe > > > shouldnt really be seen from the back, it should line up with the > > > leg. So instead of her foot line from ankle to toe being > straight, > > > her foot kinda curves. / > > > / > > > / > > > / > > > | > > > | > > > \ > > > \ > > > \ > > > > > > kinda like that (sorry not good at images) > > > > > > So does anyone think that this is something to be worried about, > > she > > > seems to walk fine with no pain. > > > > > > Allyn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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