Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 I would try to see if it talks about it anywhere's on the internet and print it out for your doctor. I would refuse it. I don't know about the army doc's but I would refuse anything to anyone I was not comfortable doing. COngrats on having a little girl, they are sooo sweet HUGS, ROBIN, NY Age- 41 Due Date- July 27th, 2004 OPEN RNY 10-18-02 378/246/170??? DR.EDWARD HIXSON SARANAC LAKE, NY Mom to: & 7 1/2 year twin boys and Madison age 4 1/2 yrs. Miscarraige August 2001 Miscarraige August 2003 Married to Pup: 15 years this Halloween : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 I would try to see if it talks about it anywhere's on the internet and print it out for your doctor. I would refuse it. I don't know about the army doc's but I would refuse anything to anyone I was not comfortable doing. COngrats on having a little girl, they are sooo sweet HUGS, ROBIN, NY Age- 41 Due Date- July 27th, 2004 OPEN RNY 10-18-02 378/246/170??? DR.EDWARD HIXSON SARANAC LAKE, NY Mom to: & 7 1/2 year twin boys and Madison age 4 1/2 yrs. Miscarraige August 2001 Miscarraige August 2003 Married to Pup: 15 years this Halloween : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 oh yeah, my doc gives a urine every visit too. I would ask why they don't. Maybe they are trying to keep expenses down?? HUGS, ROBIN, NY Age- 41 Due Date- July 27th, 2004 OPEN RNY 10-18-02 378/246/170??? DR.EDWARD HIXSON SARANAC LAKE, NY Mom to: & 7 1/2 year twin boys and Madison age 4 1/2 yrs. Miscarraige August 2001 Miscarraige August 2003 Married to Pup: 15 years this Halloween : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 HI there, My husband is army, we are stationed at Ft. Sill, OK. I refused my gluscose test and had a fasting blood level done. My doctor was ok with it. Also, I don't get my urine tested at every visit either, I thought this was a little strange. I am 30 weeks along now and everything is fine. My blood tests came back showing that my iron was a little low, so of course, I had to get on iron pills. Hope this helps you out. Marcy due date 2/27/04 rny 07/11/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 e, HI! I too am a Army spouse. I would assume that you are being treated at a Military Treatment Facility, right? Where are you guys stationed? Though I know it feels like it sometimes, we spouses are NOT in the Army. Yes, there are rules that we have to follow, but we are allowed choices in our medical care. There are some letters that are emailed to you when you join this group, or if you don't have them anymore you can go to the web site and pull them out again, I would print these out and bring them to your doc and use them as a guideline to present to her the reasons why you would like to test your sugar another way than the usual way. I'm gonna guess that part of the reason that you are thinking that you may not have a choice in your testing is because the doc is a solider and has a rank of Captain or Major? If this is the case please don't let it intimidate you, especially if your husband is enlisted. Remember, your doc is a person as well as a doc and a solider, talk to them like you would any other person. If all this fails, don't worry, they can't deny you your rights for treatment, Tricare is your health insurance just like any other health insurance with any other job, plus it is a benefit your husband gets for his family as a solider, thats part of the reason that they don't pay as much for the job he does as his counterparts in the civilian world make. If things get too difficult ask your OB to refer you to a RNY doc who can help consult on your pregnancy as far as how it will effect it. Congrats on finding out your having a girl! I am 23 weeks and my hubby and I found out a couple of weeks ago that we are having a girl also, this is our first child and we are very excited. Axelrod Military Docs I saw my OB on Tuesday and I told her that I really shouldn't take the glucose test. She looked at me like I was crazy. My question is, can I refuse the test if it is an Army Doc? Do I have the right being an Army spouse? I know military does things differently. These doctors have no clue about RNY. Another question, is it strange to not get my urine tested at every visit? I always did with my other two pregnancies. By the way, I am 20 weeks today and we found out that we are having a girl. She measured my dates exactly. e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 well e, I have been a military spouse for more than 12 years and I personally would never have a splinter removed from a military doc let alone have a baby, with my 2nd child they told me i had to go to the military hospital because i moved back into their zone, I told them i was scheduled for a c-section on monday morning and they said no way would i get a c-section, until i tryed to labor, it was already medically documented that i cant have vaginal delivery's i took the chance on whether they paid the bills and kept my scheduled c-section. you should always have your urine checked and blood pressure, and you always have the right to refuse anything, being a military spouse doesnt take your human rights away. and if they told you it was a girl I wouldnt buy to much pink, my friend was told by the naval hospital in san diego at every check-up from 4months on that it was a girl, she thought she was getting world class care because they always did ultrasounds, she was told a girl over and over until that moment they annouce its a boy or girl and they heard its a boy! another thing the military firmly believe in motrin( and motrin is an aspirin product, which we are supposed to avoid) as the magic pill to cure everything, so I dont know how pain relief will be in your neck of the woods, but I hope you end up with a good experience because i havent heard of many, you can always enroll in tricare prime and then you can choose your doc, civilian or military! good luck apryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 well we spent 5 years in san diego and i chose my own pediatrician and OB only because i am stubborn was my doctors more than 100 miles away and i traveled for quality of care that i trusted, but i believe each city has a list of doctors i will attach the link to look up in your area, we also lived in hawaii for 5 years and again i had civilian doctors and we were well within the treatment area, when i first started with champus it was a 75 mile limit, but thats champus than tricare prime and extra came along and you can change doctors every 15 minutes if you like, i know when my son was 12 months old he split his head and we went to one o the clinics they came on him like tornado and slammed staples in his head with no lidocaine or even tylenol i tell you i was livid, and never again have i dealt with military medical persons, and i have never had a bill for medical care so someone is misleading you, they are good about intimadating you, and its important to know your rights and stand firm for yourself. i really think they offer substandard care and only because they can, i am a nurse and have seen some of the staff and we are literally used as lab rats, we are who the corp man learn to draw blood on and start IV's after reading a manual. i am not sure what zone you would come under as i am in california, but i'll put the link i have for you and click primary pcp's and you should get a list of doctors within a certain radius of your address, good luck and let me know if i can help in any way, and congrats on being pregnant, i have been trying since my gastric surgery to get knocked up but my hubby is stationed 200 miles from our house and timing is everything as you know, but we only have 5 months left til retirement but i am gonna keep tricare for probably a year or 2 because it is good coverage in the civilian system http://205.178.38.71/directory/tricare_prov_dir.asp?ps=bp thats the link good luck deary apryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Apryl, I was always under the impression that if you were within 25-50 miles of a military treatment facility, regardless if you had tricare prime or not, you had to get your treatment there. Everywhere we have been so far has not been close enough so I have not had to deal with this as of yet, but that is what I have been told by all the Tricare reps, either on the phone or in person. Being here in Minnesota, where we are Tricare Prime Remote, the medical care I have gotten has been awful, except for my OB, I got real luck there. It has been so bad that I actually tried to get in to the women's clinic at our local VA center. From what I hear their women's clinic is great, so much so that I was not able to get in as they are completely full. I guess its a hit or miss as to what military treatment facilities are good or bad, but they are going through alot of changes to make it better for those of us who have to get care there, more like the civilian world. Axelrod Re: Military Docs well e, I have been a military spouse for more than 12 years and I personally would never have a splinter removed from a military doc let alone have a baby, with my 2nd child they told me i had to go to the military hospital because i moved back into their zone, I told them i was scheduled for a c-section on monday morning and they said no way would i get a c-section, until i tryed to labor, it was already medically documented that i cant have vaginal delivery's i took the chance on whether they paid the bills and kept my scheduled c-section. you should always have your urine checked and blood pressure, and you always have the right to refuse anything, being a military spouse doesnt take your human rights away. and if they told you it was a girl I wouldnt buy to much pink, my friend was told by the naval hospital in san diego at every check-up from 4months on that it was a girl, she thought she was getting world class care because they always did ultrasounds, she was told a girl over and over until that moment they annouce its a boy or girl and they heard its a boy! another thing the military firmly believe in motrin( and motrin is an aspirin product, which we are supposed to avoid) as the magic pill to cure everything, so I dont know how pain relief will be in your neck of the woods, but I hope you end up with a good experience because i havent heard of many, you can always enroll in tricare prime and then you can choose your doc, civilian or military! good luck apryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Apryl, I was always under the impression that if you were within 25-50 miles of a military treatment facility, regardless if you had tricare prime or not, you had to get your treatment there. Everywhere we have been so far has not been close enough so I have not had to deal with this as of yet, but that is what I have been told by all the Tricare reps, either on the phone or in person. Being here in Minnesota, where we are Tricare Prime Remote, the medical care I have gotten has been awful, except for my OB, I got real luck there. It has been so bad that I actually tried to get in to the women's clinic at our local VA center. From what I hear their women's clinic is great, so much so that I was not able to get in as they are completely full. I guess its a hit or miss as to what military treatment facilities are good or bad, but they are going through alot of changes to make it better for those of us who have to get care there, more like the civilian world. Axelrod Re: Military Docs well e, I have been a military spouse for more than 12 years and I personally would never have a splinter removed from a military doc let alone have a baby, with my 2nd child they told me i had to go to the military hospital because i moved back into their zone, I told them i was scheduled for a c-section on monday morning and they said no way would i get a c-section, until i tryed to labor, it was already medically documented that i cant have vaginal delivery's i took the chance on whether they paid the bills and kept my scheduled c-section. you should always have your urine checked and blood pressure, and you always have the right to refuse anything, being a military spouse doesnt take your human rights away. and if they told you it was a girl I wouldnt buy to much pink, my friend was told by the naval hospital in san diego at every check-up from 4months on that it was a girl, she thought she was getting world class care because they always did ultrasounds, she was told a girl over and over until that moment they annouce its a boy or girl and they heard its a boy! another thing the military firmly believe in motrin( and motrin is an aspirin product, which we are supposed to avoid) as the magic pill to cure everything, so I dont know how pain relief will be in your neck of the woods, but I hope you end up with a good experience because i havent heard of many, you can always enroll in tricare prime and then you can choose your doc, civilian or military! good luck apryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 Okay - I am a little late on the vote but. As a civi you have the right to guide your care. You are not under contract and what's on their collar is just jewelry to you. Having said that, you have to walk a fine line because if you are ugly, offensive, or threatening in anyway, it will bite your spouse in the butt. I cornered the head of the OB department once and without cussing or even raising my voice we got into it big time. In the end he capitulated and then he made a note that I was never to see him again, but another doc. As far a quality care goes, I always received great care. I have had civilian healthcare and I can tell you that it is not all that it is cracked up to be. My advice is to know your right (which is that you have some!) and to be informed, You will do great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 you know the problem is if you are in the medical field you know to much info, and are critical about who cares for you and if you dont know any better you might think you are getting great care. military hospitals have civilian doctors who work for them also, it doesnt make them good nor does it mean they are bad, alot is how you feel in a certain persons care, if they seem to know what they are talking about we give them more benefit of doubt, I used to work at tripler and its like any where you have a mix of good and bad. its a game of roulette where ever you go. ask lots of question and educate yourself as much as you can so you are familiar with whats normal and whats not, and stand up for your self when you feel something isn,t right. make your care giver explain their reasoning for what they are doing, if it sounds logical okay, if it is in left field, get another opinion, call labor and delivery floor and ask the nurses if this is right or not. be reponsible for your care, follow your instincts and all will probably be fine.. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 e, I know a lot of ladies have replied to your message, but I just wanted to put my 2 cents in. Yes as the others have said you have the right to refuse anything. Also, someone made a comment about not wanting any care at a military hospital by any military physicians. I have to tell you that I just had my daughter here in Hawaii 4 weeks ago. I had the BEST care at Tripler. When I was induced the docs were so good. I feel very confident about our docs here. I am sorry if others have not had the same good experiences that I have, but you should not be nervous. If you feel that your Dr. is not right for you then ask who his supervisor is and let them know that you want a different Dr. Good luck with everything! Oh and I did not have my urine checked at every visit. Usually they have you give them a urine sample if your BP is high. They do this to check for proteins. I know for a fact that not having it done does not have anything to do with money. I hope everything goes smoothly for you with your pregnancy. Tammy > I saw my OB on Tuesday and I told her that I really shouldn't take the > glucose test. She looked at me like I was crazy. My question is, can I refuse the > test if it is an Army Doc? Do I have the right being an Army spouse? I know > military does things differently. These doctors have no clue about RNY. > Another question, is it strange to not get my urine tested at every visit? I > always did with my other two pregnancies. By the way, I am 20 weeks today and we > found out that we are having a girl. She measured my dates exactly. > > e > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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