Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 We don't have a full diagnosis yet for Gemma...still working on it...but it does appear that she isn't producing as much growth hormone as needed. I'm wondering if others have major sleep issues with their kids. This little girl just doesn't sleep as much as the average kid...never has from the word go. The nurses in the NICU were always stunned at how bright-eyed and bushy tailed she was and how long she had her awake periods. At 1.5 years, it takes her a long time to check back at the end of the day, despite some really solid bedtime rituals. Once asleep, she'll be out for a couple of hours, then wakeful for periods throughout the night. Sometimes she needs to eat...she's just famished...nursing isn't enough and we need to feed her a snack. Other times it is just like she's had enough sleep and she's up, raring to go. She naps once a day for perhaps an hour to 1.5 hours. She really isn't cranky and doesn't act tired throughout the day, so its not like these weird sleep patterns are wreaking havoc on her temperament. I feel like we've got really good strategies for dealing with night time parenting, so I don't think she suffers from lack of routine or ways to soothe. And, when she awakens at night, we don't get up and play, so there's no reinforcement that night time is party time. It really just feels like her body is telling her that she doesn't need as much sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 , thanks for the reply. I'm actually on my way to take Gemma to her 18 month well-child check now and this is one issue I want to bring up with our doc. Our doc has a child with lots of growth issues too, who also doesn't sleep, so even if she doesn't have answers, she can atleast empathize. We can share mommy survival stories (-: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 , We are lucky that (22 mo. RSS) sleeps very well through the night and takes a good 2-3 hour nap in the afternoon as well. He sometimes wakes and scuffles, but he settles himself down again. It sounds like you are doing everything right as far as routines and reinforcement. What does your pediatrician say? sleep issues We don't have a full diagnosis yet for Gemma...still working on it...but it does appear that she isn't producing as much growth hormone as needed. I'm wondering if others have major sleep issues with their kids. This little girl just doesn't sleep as much as the average kid...never has from the word go. The nurses in the NICU were always stunned at how bright-eyed and bushy tailed she was and how long she had her awake periods. At 1.5 years, it takes her a long time to check back at the end of the day, despite some really solid bedtime rituals. Once asleep, she'll be out for a couple of hours, then wakeful for periods throughout the night. Sometimes she needs to eat...she's just famished...nursing isn't enough and we need to feed her a snack. Other times it is just like she's had enough sleep and she's up, raring to go. She naps once a day for perhaps an hour to 1.5 hours. She really isn't cranky and doesn't act tired throughout the day, so its not like these weird sleep patterns are wreaking havoc on her temperament. I feel like we've got really good strategies for dealing with night time parenting, so I don't think she suffers from lack of routine or ways to soothe. And, when she awakens at night, we don't get up and play, so there's no reinforcement that night time is party time. It really just feels like her body is telling her that she doesn't need as much sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 Hello again, , My son didn't sleep through the night until after he turned three years old. No real problems, and we tried suggestion we got from his Dr, my parents, my hubby's parents, my sisters, friends, nothing helped. Not watching sugar intake, or fluids, or getting rid of his nap, or putting him to bed earlier or later! He would do just what Gemma does, sleep a couple of hours, and then, usually when we were getting ready for bed, he'd get up and be raring to go. We finally just made it a rule, that he had to stay in his room, and he could play quietly on his bed. If he woke us up, he knew that we would go in, tuck him in, and tell him it was bed time. The first time he slept through the night, I absolutely panicked! I woke up and realized that it was early morning, and I hadn't heard playing in his room! I ran in to find him all tucked in and peacefully sleeping, safe and sound! LOL It took quite a while for my heart to stop racing that morning! Pat (g-ma to , RSS, 13 months, 11# 8oz, 24.75 " , GT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2003 Report Share Posted February 10, 2003 , At 15 months Alyssa sleeps for about 11-12 hours at night and takes a 1-2hr nap during the day. She was sleeping through the night pretty young and until I have to to keep her growing, I have decided not to wake her up to feed her. Of course, I feed her if she even cries out once! Dayna, Mom to Alyssa 15 months Thurs., 13lbs 6oz, 28 1/2 in sleep issues > We don't have a full diagnosis yet for Gemma...still working on it...but it does appear that she isn't producing as much growth hormone as needed. > > I'm wondering if others have major sleep issues with their kids. This little girl just doesn't sleep as much as the average kid...never has from the word go. The nurses in the NICU were always stunned at how bright-eyed and bushy tailed she was and how long she had her awake periods. > > At 1.5 years, it takes her a long time to check back at the end of the day, despite some really solid bedtime rituals. Once asleep, she'll be out for a couple of hours, then wakeful for periods throughout the night. Sometimes she needs to eat...she's just famished...nursing isn't enough and we need to feed her a snack. Other times it is just like she's had enough sleep and she's up, raring to go. > > She naps once a day for perhaps an hour to 1.5 hours. She really isn't cranky and doesn't act tired throughout the day, so its not like these weird sleep patterns are wreaking havoc on her temperament. > > I feel like we've got really good strategies for dealing with night time parenting, so I don't think she suffers from lack of routine or ways to soothe. And, when she awakens at night, we don't get up and play, so there's no reinforcement that night time is party time. It really just feels like her body is telling her that she doesn't need as much sleep. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Has she had an IgG blood test for sensitivities? I'm wondering if one or more of the foods she is eating has hyperactivity or sleeplessness as a reaction. Marilyn leaky gut, low thyroid/adrenal, SCD 3 months sleep issues > Hi, > > My daughter, 15 months old and myself are both on the diet. I > started her on the diet this fall because she was head banging and > developing slowly in motor skills, and had poor food digestion. I was > too trusting of our family doctor who suggested to start her on rice > ceral at 4 months. That is when the problems began. Anyways, in the > beginning back in Oct./NOv. I saw great improvement but over > christmas she was sick with the flu and we are back to non-sleeping a > lot of nights and many days she can't nap at all and just screams in > her crib. > > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Poor thing just seems so over- > stimulated and worn out at the same time. Would any supplements > help? Vitamins that are appropriate for 15 month old? > > mary- scd-2 yrs for IBS- > > daughter-martha scd for 3 months-diet; is eating eggs,turkey > burgers,chicken soup, chicken, beef burger cut in small pieces; ( > carrotts, french style green beans, squash,apple sauce all veggies > and fruit are blended, frozen, & crushed up so my daughter can feed > her self. She has 15 teeth already. I'm still nursing her as well. > I haven't started her on vitamins; I've given her a little cow's > yougart before christmas but it caused stuffyness. I may try her on > goat's yougart next. > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Has she had an IgG blood test for sensitivities? I'm wondering if one or more of the foods she is eating has hyperactivity or sleeplessness as a reaction. Marilyn leaky gut, low thyroid/adrenal, SCD 3 months sleep issues > Hi, > > My daughter, 15 months old and myself are both on the diet. I > started her on the diet this fall because she was head banging and > developing slowly in motor skills, and had poor food digestion. I was > too trusting of our family doctor who suggested to start her on rice > ceral at 4 months. That is when the problems began. Anyways, in the > beginning back in Oct./NOv. I saw great improvement but over > christmas she was sick with the flu and we are back to non-sleeping a > lot of nights and many days she can't nap at all and just screams in > her crib. > > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Poor thing just seems so over- > stimulated and worn out at the same time. Would any supplements > help? Vitamins that are appropriate for 15 month old? > > mary- scd-2 yrs for IBS- > > daughter-martha scd for 3 months-diet; is eating eggs,turkey > burgers,chicken soup, chicken, beef burger cut in small pieces; ( > carrotts, french style green beans, squash,apple sauce all veggies > and fruit are blended, frozen, & crushed up so my daughter can feed > her self. She has 15 teeth already. I'm still nursing her as well. > I haven't started her on vitamins; I've given her a little cow's > yougart before christmas but it caused stuffyness. I may try her on > goat's yougart next. > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Has she had an IgG blood test for sensitivities? I'm wondering if one or more of the foods she is eating has hyperactivity or sleeplessness as a reaction. Marilyn leaky gut, low thyroid/adrenal, SCD 3 months sleep issues > Hi, > > My daughter, 15 months old and myself are both on the diet. I > started her on the diet this fall because she was head banging and > developing slowly in motor skills, and had poor food digestion. I was > too trusting of our family doctor who suggested to start her on rice > ceral at 4 months. That is when the problems began. Anyways, in the > beginning back in Oct./NOv. I saw great improvement but over > christmas she was sick with the flu and we are back to non-sleeping a > lot of nights and many days she can't nap at all and just screams in > her crib. > > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Poor thing just seems so over- > stimulated and worn out at the same time. Would any supplements > help? Vitamins that are appropriate for 15 month old? > > mary- scd-2 yrs for IBS- > > daughter-martha scd for 3 months-diet; is eating eggs,turkey > burgers,chicken soup, chicken, beef burger cut in small pieces; ( > carrotts, french style green beans, squash,apple sauce all veggies > and fruit are blended, frozen, & crushed up so my daughter can feed > her self. She has 15 teeth already. I'm still nursing her as well. > I haven't started her on vitamins; I've given her a little cow's > yougart before christmas but it caused stuffyness. I may try her on > goat's yougart next. > > > > > > > > > > For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book > _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following > websites: > http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info > and > http://www.pecanbread.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Did she take any antibiotics or anything? Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Did she take any antibiotics or anything? Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 From a more sensory approach...have you thought about ocupational or physical therapy (or maybe she already has it) for her sensory issues? Some things that work for kids with sensory overload are: *rocking or swinging -(I've had parents put their child in a flat sheet and each parent holds an end or tie one end onto something and swing their child) *deep pressure - like being rolled up in a sheet or rolling a large ball on top while the child is on your lap or laying on the floor. You could also make a pressure blanket (2 pieces of fabric with rice or plastic pellets in it) *pup tent - or make your own tent where she can go into where is is quiet. You can try putting a blanket and pillow in there for comfort *white noise or soft music (some kids need complete silents too) - the white noise like a fan or ocean is very calming *Smells - make sure that there are not too many smells when she is to be relaxing including cleaning products, strong foods Of course all kids are different and you daughter may not appriciate and of these suggestion but it is worth a try! Working with a PT or OT will help you fine tune what is best for your daughter. mother of Caden 2 3/4 years old SCD since 2-05 and Emmalynn, Also a pediatic physical thearpist. > > Hi, > > My daughter, 15 months old and myself are both on the diet. I > started her on the diet this fall because she was head banging and > developing slowly in motor skills, and had poor food digestion. I was > too trusting of our family doctor who suggested to start her on rice > ceral at 4 months. That is when the problems began. Anyways, in the > beginning back in Oct./NOv. I saw great improvement but over > christmas she was sick with the flu and we are back to non-sleeping a > lot of nights and many days she can't nap at all and just screams in > her crib. > > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Poor thing just seems so over- > stimulated and worn out at the same time. Would any supplements > help? Vitamins that are appropriate for 15 month old? > > mary- scd-2 yrs for IBS- > > daughter-martha scd for 3 months-diet; is eating eggs,turkey > burgers,chicken soup, chicken, beef burger cut in small pieces; ( > carrotts, french style green beans, squash,apple sauce all veggies > and fruit are blended, frozen, & crushed up so my daughter can feed > her self. She has 15 teeth already. I'm still nursing her as well. > I haven't started her on vitamins; I've given her a little cow's > yougart before christmas but it caused stuffyness. I may try her on > goat's yougart next. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 From a more sensory approach...have you thought about ocupational or physical therapy (or maybe she already has it) for her sensory issues? Some things that work for kids with sensory overload are: *rocking or swinging -(I've had parents put their child in a flat sheet and each parent holds an end or tie one end onto something and swing their child) *deep pressure - like being rolled up in a sheet or rolling a large ball on top while the child is on your lap or laying on the floor. You could also make a pressure blanket (2 pieces of fabric with rice or plastic pellets in it) *pup tent - or make your own tent where she can go into where is is quiet. You can try putting a blanket and pillow in there for comfort *white noise or soft music (some kids need complete silents too) - the white noise like a fan or ocean is very calming *Smells - make sure that there are not too many smells when she is to be relaxing including cleaning products, strong foods Of course all kids are different and you daughter may not appriciate and of these suggestion but it is worth a try! Working with a PT or OT will help you fine tune what is best for your daughter. mother of Caden 2 3/4 years old SCD since 2-05 and Emmalynn, Also a pediatic physical thearpist. > > Hi, > > My daughter, 15 months old and myself are both on the diet. I > started her on the diet this fall because she was head banging and > developing slowly in motor skills, and had poor food digestion. I was > too trusting of our family doctor who suggested to start her on rice > ceral at 4 months. That is when the problems began. Anyways, in the > beginning back in Oct./NOv. I saw great improvement but over > christmas she was sick with the flu and we are back to non-sleeping a > lot of nights and many days she can't nap at all and just screams in > her crib. > > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Poor thing just seems so over- > stimulated and worn out at the same time. Would any supplements > help? Vitamins that are appropriate for 15 month old? > > mary- scd-2 yrs for IBS- > > daughter-martha scd for 3 months-diet; is eating eggs,turkey > burgers,chicken soup, chicken, beef burger cut in small pieces; ( > carrotts, french style green beans, squash,apple sauce all veggies > and fruit are blended, frozen, & crushed up so my daughter can feed > her self. She has 15 teeth already. I'm still nursing her as well. > I haven't started her on vitamins; I've given her a little cow's > yougart before christmas but it caused stuffyness. I may try her on > goat's yougart next. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Yeast comes to mind with antibiotic use. Are you giving her probiotics? Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Yeast comes to mind with antibiotic use. Are you giving her probiotics? Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Yeast comes to mind with antibiotic use. Are you giving her probiotics? Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Extra yogurt and a good pro biotic like Lyso-san with acidophilus " Just keep in mind that Lyo-San has milk products in it. An allergy or severe intolance to cow's milk would eliminate using Lyo-San in favor of a dairy free probiotic like SCDophilus from GI Pro Health. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Extra yogurt and a good pro biotic like Lyso-san with acidophilus " Just keep in mind that Lyo-San has milk products in it. An allergy or severe intolance to cow's milk would eliminate using Lyo-San in favor of a dairy free probiotic like SCDophilus from GI Pro Health. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Extra yogurt and a good pro biotic like Lyso-san with acidophilus " Just keep in mind that Lyo-San has milk products in it. An allergy or severe intolance to cow's milk would eliminate using Lyo-San in favor of a dairy free probiotic like SCDophilus from GI Pro Health. Jody mom to -7 and -9 SCD 1/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Hi - I'm one of those people who read the postings on this group all the time but never post. I have a 26 mo. son on SCD for 8 weeks. I'm very familiar with the sleep issues. The only thing that has worked for me is that now I give him a dose of Zymeprime enzymes with his watered down juice before he goes to bed. Then if he wakes up in distress I give it to him again (only about 2 oz. of juice/water) and that seems to calm him down and he goes back to sleep within about 20 minutes. So far this has worked well and he doesn't wake back up again. I'm not sure why it works but I love it when he sleeps! ;-) mom to Austin (26 mos.- PDD-NOS) - SCD 8 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Hi - I'm one of those people who read the postings on this group all the time but never post. I have a 26 mo. son on SCD for 8 weeks. I'm very familiar with the sleep issues. The only thing that has worked for me is that now I give him a dose of Zymeprime enzymes with his watered down juice before he goes to bed. Then if he wakes up in distress I give it to him again (only about 2 oz. of juice/water) and that seems to calm him down and he goes back to sleep within about 20 minutes. So far this has worked well and he doesn't wake back up again. I'm not sure why it works but I love it when he sleeps! ;-) mom to Austin (26 mos.- PDD-NOS) - SCD 8 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 > Any suggestions to improve sleep while we try to get back on track > other than the baths before bedtime. Hi - I'm one of those people who read the postings on this group all the time but never post. I have a 26 mo. son on SCD for 8 weeks. I'm very familiar with the sleep issues. The only thing that has worked for me is that now I give him a dose of Zymeprime enzymes with his watered down juice before he goes to bed. Then if he wakes up in distress I give it to him again (only about 2 oz. of juice/water) and that seems to calm him down and he goes back to sleep within about 20 minutes. So far this has worked well and he doesn't wake back up again. I'm not sure why it works but I love it when he sleeps! ;-) mom to Austin (26 mos.- PDD-NOS) - SCD 8 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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