Re: FISHING EXPEDITION, YEAH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I've been trying to do the opposite of this by having a frame of mind to seek answers.

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I know how very hard this is, not only for you to do--and I'm so glad that you've decided to take this approach.

I know that you're disappointed that the appt with Rheumi didn't work out as you wanted, and that he blew off your complaints. I know he decided that you needed to get on some anti-depressants--and that was it.

Although the anti-depressants would help the mood swings, and possibly by correcting your sleep patterns--would lessen the pain somewhat. But we both know that's not the whole answer.

I take it your Rheumi thinks that the pred has caused some bone loss in your knees, and that this is why you have the pain. So he needs to treat the pain. Not blow you off.

, can you request to see a different Rheumi? You need the help--and do deserve it. I'm proud that you stood up to the MD and told him how you felt. This is a step forward.

Tracie

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I've been trying to do the opposite of this by having a frame of mind to seek answers.

,

I know how very hard this is, not only for you to do--and I'm so glad that you've decided to take this approach.

I know that you're disappointed that the appt with Rheumi didn't work out as you wanted, and that he blew off your complaints. I know he decided that you needed to get on some anti-depressants--and that was it.

Although the anti-depressants would help the mood swings, and possibly by correcting your sleep patterns--would lessen the pain somewhat. But we both know that's not the whole answer.

I take it your Rheumi thinks that the pred has caused some bone loss in your knees, and that this is why you have the pain. So he needs to treat the pain. Not blow you off.

, can you request to see a different Rheumi? You need the help--and do deserve it. I'm proud that you stood up to the MD and told him how you felt. This is a step forward.

Tracie

[Guest guest]

I've been trying to do the opposite of this by having a frame of mind to seek answers.

,

I know how very hard this is, not only for you to do--and I'm so glad that you've decided to take this approach.

I know that you're disappointed that the appt with Rheumi didn't work out as you wanted, and that he blew off your complaints. I know he decided that you needed to get on some anti-depressants--and that was it.

Although the anti-depressants would help the mood swings, and possibly by correcting your sleep patterns--would lessen the pain somewhat. But we both know that's not the whole answer.

I take it your Rheumi thinks that the pred has caused some bone loss in your knees, and that this is why you have the pain. So he needs to treat the pain. Not blow you off.

, can you request to see a different Rheumi? You need the help--and do deserve it. I'm proud that you stood up to the MD and told him how you felt. This is a step forward.

Tracie

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Glad to see you back online. I have been worried about you. , don't throw in the towel; it is not worth it. Show people you are here to stay. At your next appointment with the Old Fart tell him the same things and ask for your MRI again. Keep doing this again and again and again. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the grease even in the goverenment. Well, I am praying for you - I know you are in a bad place right now. Just know you are thought of.

Terri G.

>> Hello all out there,> > Checking into this "hotel" today (my same ol joke) this Saturday afternoon. I've been away from this for awhile as you all know. Just been too busy and combine with the usual pain & fatigue going on.> > Tracie, as long as I've readin & writin on this thing here, you have from time to time told people in this forum to get a certain test done and/or go to a hospital right a way. Remember that story about that lady doctor who put off going for eye doc and end up being blind the next morning? Times I was reluctant to go for some test or medical treatment because I had apathy/depression towards anything (like that cancer possibility). Well last few months I've been trying to do the opposite of this by having a frame of mind to seek answers. This line of thinking that I had in my brain before this last Tuesday's Rhemy Doc appt. is to request for an MRI from my waist down or least from my thighs down to my feet. I went to this appt. this past Tuesday afternoon there at the V.A. clinic and seen that same OLD FART Rhemy V.A. doctor. I told him of onset of this pain in both my knees and legs last May that lasted into November that at times I'd wished that I had a gun to blow my> legs away so I wouldn't have to put up with this pain. I told him I actually overdose I don't know how many times of taking Tynol type pain medcine which decrease some pain but not all day long. That Salslate drug wasn't being effective either (I used up the last of this earlier this week). He said going on steriods (actually corticosteriods) has alot bad effects. DUH!!!!!!!!!!! I HAD ALREADY KNEW THIS GOING BACK TO SUMMER 2002!!!!!!!!! > > Somewhere in this somewhat of a wasted time visit to this clinic appt. talking to this OLD FART I requested to have an MRI on my legs about this inflammatary pain. He said he doesn't believe in going on a FISHING EXPEDITION just to have this MRI(s) on my legs. I could just say alot of adjectives, but I'll just say this. This Rhemy doc is a damm jackass. I told him I was depressed about different things and he said I should take some of those anti-depressive drugs. I said, this is part of why I'am depressed because of this pain in my legs and he wouldn't change his mind. Again I had a willing and wanting a good attitude in my mind to seek and do something regarding this pain I have and what do I get?????? This "door" slammed in my face figurely wise that is. I've felt like I was climbing out of that "well of dispair" by having a good attitude (y'all probility didn't know that) about life, medcial treatment, Kathy, my family, and everything only to feel like "what's the> use", back to same apathy again I had off and on these past 20 months. Tracie, and anyone else, do you understand what I'am saying? People have said before in this group and in ones I meet, that they just can't figured out why I have been depressed and have had those suicidal thoughts. This is just another stupid crappy fisaco in a long line of the same things going on for 25 years for me now. WHAT ELSE IS NEW??? Like that post I had sent out, "When does it ever end?" No big deal, just a little bit of that "throw in towel sydrome" again. I'am just discouraged about this situation. > > Bye,> > > > ---------------------------------> Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.>

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I don't comment a lot, but I just wanted to say that I'm sorry the

doctor was that way, it doesn't matter what or how you feel, it

wouldn't kill them to run a test or two. I had a friend ask me the

other day, if she should seek another opinion, she's had a pain in her

side for a long time, and had it checked out, and the docs did some

blood tests and said they were all normal, well just watch it, then she

says she has a lump in the same area, and they say well the blood tests

are normal, just watch it?? I told her to see someone else, and stay

on top of it. why are they so afraid to step out of the "blood test

zone" as I call it, if the blood tests are normal then everything must

be fine. Well my mother in law died of lung cancer because a doctor

wouldn't listen to her either, she had "hip" pain, and they kept

telling her it was just referred pain from the arthritis in her back,

she asked for a hip xray and they told her she didn't need one, well

after a couple months of physical therapy and a couple of steroid

epidural, and no pain relief, she went to her PCP who finally agreed to

do some xrays, and found a tumor in her hip, secondary metastes from

lung cancer where they found a tumor too. So if we don't stay on top

of things it doesn't get done.

It's just like the frustration I am going through with my boys right

now, they say they've handed in applications for work, but no one calls

them, I say you go there everyday until someone interviews you, then

you will get the job, but no just hang at home and expect Mom and Dad,

and Mom is a sucker to pay for all your fun. Mostly it's my 17 year

old, who does all kinds of sports, prom, girlfriend, etc... but is not

out there trying to find a job. My 21 yo is Bi Polar and is doing

well, just had his job drop his hours in half, so told him he needed to

find a job with more hours. Where is the follow up, I'm sorry , boy

did I just run off at the mouth, I know it must be frustrating, but

hang in there for yourself.

hugs and blessings,.

Marla

Hello all out there,

Checking into this "hotel" today (my same ol joke) this Saturday afternoon. I've been away from this for awhile as you all know. Just been too busy and combine with the usual pain & fatigue going on.

Tracie, as long as I've readin & writin on this thing here, you have from time to time told people in this forum to get a certain test done and/or go to a hospital right a way. Remember that story about that lady doctor who put off going for eye doc and end up being blind the next morning? Times I was reluctant to go for some test or medical treatment because I had apathy/depression towards anything (like that cancer possibility). Well last few months I've been trying to do the opposite of this by having a frame of mind to seek answers. This line of thinking that I had in my brain before this last Tuesday's Rhemy Doc appt. is to request for an MRI from my waist down or least from my thighs down to my feet. I went to this appt. this past Tuesday afternoon there at the V.A. clinic and seen that same OLD FART Rhemy V.A. doctor. I told him of onset of this pain in both my knees and legs last May that lasted into November that at times I'd wished that I had a gun to blow my

legs away so I wouldn't have to put up with this pain. I told him I actually overdose I don't know how many times of taking Tynol type pain medcine which decrease some pain but not all day long. That Salslate drug wasn't being effective either (I used up the last of this earlier this week). He said going on steriods (actually corticosteriods) has alot bad effects. DUH!!!!!!!!!!! I HAD ALREADY KNEW THIS GOING BACK TO SUMMER 2002!!!!!!!!! Somewhere in this somewhat of a wasted time visit to this clinic appt. talking to this OLD FART I requested to have an MRI on my legs about this inflammatary pain. He said he doesn't believe in going on a FISHING EXPEDITION just to have this MRI(s) on my legs. I could just say alot of adjectives, but I'll just say this. This Rhemy doc is a damm jackass. I told him I was depressed about different things and he said I should take some of those anti-depressive drugs. I said, this is part of why I'am depressed because of this pain in my legs and he wouldn't change his mind. Again I had a willing and wanting a good attitude in my mind to seek and do something regarding this pain I have and what do I get?????? This "door" slammed in my face figurely wise that is. I've felt like I was climbing out of that "well of dispair" by having a good attitude (y'all probility didn't know that) about life, medcial treatment, Kathy, my family, and everything only to feel like "what's the

use", back to same apathy again I had off and on these past 20 months. Tracie, and anyone else, do you understand what I'am saying? People have said before in this group and in ones I meet, that they just can't figured out why I have been depressed and have had those suicidal thoughts. This is just another stupid crappy fisaco in a long line of the same things going on for 25 years for me now. WHAT ELSE IS NEW??? Like that post I had sent out, "When does it ever end?" No big deal, just a little bit of that "throw in towel sydrome" again. I'am just discouraged about this situation. Bye,

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