Re: Hurtful encounters...

June 6, 2006

Dear, I think that I would just ask her up-front, "whats so funny? My bfeing in ICU, being dx'd with a rare uncureable disease, not being able to take care of my daily duties, or not being able to attend my church, which by-the-way I really do miss b/c the ppl there are so caring and helpful to me?" Unfortunately, there are a lot of ppl like that out there, be-it, that they are scared, concerned, or just don't like all the attention on you and not them. I too am glad that I have found this site as I have had great support from here. I know that I haven't posted lately, and there are a lot of new ppl here, but , you were one of the first ones that I met here. I am sorry that you had to meet Mr & Mrs IDIOT, but know that I am here for you as you have been for me in the past. And the next time you see them, tell them

from me to "go get ffffffffffffff lost." Sorry , a little stutter there. Lots of Love Lynne Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner

than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just

took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________Do You

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June 6, 2006

It stinks that there are people that call themselves human that can act like that. Personally I would be afraid if I was them, they are not dead yet and health problems are not picky about who they attack. I do not wish her any harm, but to many times I have seen people like this find out the hard way that they should have been kinder. She also needs to look up the definition of friend, she doesn't qualify. You were smart to distance yourself, as bad as we hate it; sometimes that's the only thing we can do. Hugs coming yur way chica......Connie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn

around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than

you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

It stinks that there are people that call themselves human that can act like that. Personally I would be afraid if I was them, they are not dead yet and health problems are not picky about who they attack. I do not wish her any harm, but to many times I have seen people like this find out the hard way that they should have been kinder. She also needs to look up the definition of friend, she doesn't qualify. You were smart to distance yourself, as bad as we hate it; sometimes that's the only thing we can do. Hugs coming yur way chica......Connie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn

around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than

you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

It stinks that there are people that call themselves human that can act like that. Personally I would be afraid if I was them, they are not dead yet and health problems are not picky about who they attack. I do not wish her any harm, but to many times I have seen people like this find out the hard way that they should have been kinder. She also needs to look up the definition of friend, she doesn't qualify. You were smart to distance yourself, as bad as we hate it; sometimes that's the only thing we can do. Hugs coming yur way chica......Connie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn

around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than

you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

, have you heard the song "Why?" by Card? The first verse is so often true for all of us. It goes like this:

Why did it have to be a friend who chose to betray the Lord? And why did he use a kiss to show them? That's not what a kiss is for. Only a friend can betray a friend, a stranger has nothing to gain And only a friend gets close enough to ever cause so much pain

The alternative, I guess, is another song, "I am a Rock" by Simon & Garfunkel.

Ramblin' Rose

Moderator

Reply-To: Neurosarcoidosis To: "neurosarcoidosis " <neurosarcoidosis >Subject: Hurtful encounters...Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT)

....speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S.

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June 6, 2006

, have you heard the song "Why?" by Card? The first verse is so often true for all of us. It goes like this:

Why did it have to be a friend who chose to betray the Lord? And why did he use a kiss to show them? That's not what a kiss is for. Only a friend can betray a friend, a stranger has nothing to gain And only a friend gets close enough to ever cause so much pain

The alternative, I guess, is another song, "I am a Rock" by Simon & Garfunkel.

Ramblin' Rose

Moderator

Reply-To: Neurosarcoidosis To: "neurosarcoidosis " <neurosarcoidosis >Subject: Hurtful encounters...Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT)

....speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S.

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June 6, 2006

this makes me absolutely sick to think that someone as wonderful as you would even encounter someone so rotten as this woman and her husband. It makes me SICK! And she calls herself a Christian, too? People like those are the kind that make people hate Christians, dang it!!! I don't want to be associated with people like that!!!! Geez... How in the world can anyone belittle someone else? Or make fun of someone else? Or treat anyone with disrespect and callousness? Or not really care and have concern about someone who is suffering?! As a child of God, she has a long way to go. I am SICK that ANYONE would hurt YOU of ALL people like this!!! And the worst part is I know you have such a dear, gentle heart that these things really did hurt you deeply. You HAVE to know that you are so much more

than this. I love you and I'm not a violent person at all, but right now I just want to pound that woman's head off the sidewalk!!! LOL!! Now shame on me, huh? God love and forgive me. I've got a long way to go, too. My Dad always said you can never really know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (old Indian proverb). That is so very true. How dare they treat you like that!! Uck!!! Sandy Patti sings this song called, "In Heaven's Eyes." It is one of my most favorite songs in the entire world: "A fervent prayer rose up to Heaven, A fragile soul was losing ground Sorting through the earthly babble, Heaven heard the sound.... This was a life of no distinction, No successes... Only tries, Yet gazing down on this "unlovely" one, There was love... in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... The orphan child; the wayward father The homeless traveler in the rain When life goes by and no one bothers, Heaven feels the pain.... Looking down God sees each heartache Knows each sorrow, hears each cry And looking on, you'll see compassion's fire Ablaze in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's

eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... ...there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, And we're amazed by the grace we can find... In Heaven's eyes." This song makes me weep every time I hear it. If I could, I'd sing it to you myself right this very minute. I sang it here to myself for you - for ALL of us - instead (Lucky you not to have to have your earbones broken! wink wink). I wish I could give you a great, big, warm sister-hug so you never have to feel that way again no matter what anyone ever says or does to you in life. God love you, . He

does love you, and I pray you know that more and more with each passing moment. And I pray He continues to give you the compassion of forgiveness for His other children that quite haven't progressed to solid food. My heart holds yours in prayer, my friend, Jeannie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't

really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church).

I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over

the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

this makes me absolutely sick to think that someone as wonderful as you would even encounter someone so rotten as this woman and her husband. It makes me SICK! And she calls herself a Christian, too? People like those are the kind that make people hate Christians, dang it!!! I don't want to be associated with people like that!!!! Geez... How in the world can anyone belittle someone else? Or make fun of someone else? Or treat anyone with disrespect and callousness? Or not really care and have concern about someone who is suffering?! As a child of God, she has a long way to go. I am SICK that ANYONE would hurt YOU of ALL people like this!!! And the worst part is I know you have such a dear, gentle heart that these things really did hurt you deeply. You HAVE to know that you are so much more

than this. I love you and I'm not a violent person at all, but right now I just want to pound that woman's head off the sidewalk!!! LOL!! Now shame on me, huh? God love and forgive me. I've got a long way to go, too. My Dad always said you can never really know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (old Indian proverb). That is so very true. How dare they treat you like that!! Uck!!! Sandy Patti sings this song called, "In Heaven's Eyes." It is one of my most favorite songs in the entire world: "A fervent prayer rose up to Heaven, A fragile soul was losing ground Sorting through the earthly babble, Heaven heard the sound.... This was a life of no distinction, No successes... Only tries, Yet gazing down on this "unlovely" one, There was love... in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... The orphan child; the wayward father The homeless traveler in the rain When life goes by and no one bothers, Heaven feels the pain.... Looking down God sees each heartache Knows each sorrow, hears each cry And looking on, you'll see compassion's fire Ablaze in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's

eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... ...there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, And we're amazed by the grace we can find... In Heaven's eyes." This song makes me weep every time I hear it. If I could, I'd sing it to you myself right this very minute. I sang it here to myself for you - for ALL of us - instead (Lucky you not to have to have your earbones broken! wink wink). I wish I could give you a great, big, warm sister-hug so you never have to feel that way again no matter what anyone ever says or does to you in life. God love you, . He

does love you, and I pray you know that more and more with each passing moment. And I pray He continues to give you the compassion of forgiveness for His other children that quite haven't progressed to solid food. My heart holds yours in prayer, my friend, Jeannie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't

really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church).

I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over

the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

this makes me absolutely sick to think that someone as wonderful as you would even encounter someone so rotten as this woman and her husband. It makes me SICK! And she calls herself a Christian, too? People like those are the kind that make people hate Christians, dang it!!! I don't want to be associated with people like that!!!! Geez... How in the world can anyone belittle someone else? Or make fun of someone else? Or treat anyone with disrespect and callousness? Or not really care and have concern about someone who is suffering?! As a child of God, she has a long way to go. I am SICK that ANYONE would hurt YOU of ALL people like this!!! And the worst part is I know you have such a dear, gentle heart that these things really did hurt you deeply. You HAVE to know that you are so much more

than this. I love you and I'm not a violent person at all, but right now I just want to pound that woman's head off the sidewalk!!! LOL!! Now shame on me, huh? God love and forgive me. I've got a long way to go, too. My Dad always said you can never really know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (old Indian proverb). That is so very true. How dare they treat you like that!! Uck!!! Sandy Patti sings this song called, "In Heaven's Eyes." It is one of my most favorite songs in the entire world: "A fervent prayer rose up to Heaven, A fragile soul was losing ground Sorting through the earthly babble, Heaven heard the sound.... This was a life of no distinction, No successes... Only tries, Yet gazing down on this "unlovely" one, There was love... in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... The orphan child; the wayward father The homeless traveler in the rain When life goes by and no one bothers, Heaven feels the pain.... Looking down God sees each heartache Knows each sorrow, hears each cry And looking on, you'll see compassion's fire Ablaze in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's

eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... ...there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, And we're amazed by the grace we can find... In Heaven's eyes." This song makes me weep every time I hear it. If I could, I'd sing it to you myself right this very minute. I sang it here to myself for you - for ALL of us - instead (Lucky you not to have to have your earbones broken! wink wink). I wish I could give you a great, big, warm sister-hug so you never have to feel that way again no matter what anyone ever says or does to you in life. God love you, . He

does love you, and I pray you know that more and more with each passing moment. And I pray He continues to give you the compassion of forgiveness for His other children that quite haven't progressed to solid food. My heart holds yours in prayer, my friend, Jeannie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't

really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church).

I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over

the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

hi - with friends like that u are better off w/o

them- i am so sorry she was so hurtfull- Just remember

u dont need to prove a thing to her or anyone else- We

all know that u are sick and understand how hard it is

for u- u have our support 100% and for those that dont

want to admit that there loved ones or friends have

this illness it says more about them and there own

lack of understanding of chronic illnessess MATT

--- Solberg mary_s777@...> wrote:

> ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'?

> friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so

> sick...that I just didn't want to do housework

> anymore. I think she got this from 'her'

> perspective not mine cuz she never was the best

> housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than

> hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house

> has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another

> point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was

> able to sit in church. I heard this several times.

> They forget the part about getting dressed after

> taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to

> and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also

> took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting

> dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and

> find a chair. By the time I would get there I

> wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed.

> The good thing is that the people at my church are

> very understanding and compassionate and know that

> when I do get there it's been an

> ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her

> the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they

> laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup,

> they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so

> much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I

> was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the

> point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has

> seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so

> sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain.

> I have had to separate myself from her because of

> these constant hurtful things she says and now she's

> using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is

> also a very competitive person. Once when I had

> lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and

> said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous.

> Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my

> own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept

> weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit

> harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I

> wouldn't have had any

> friends at all. thanks for being there for me,

> too. hugs S.

> __________________________________________________

>

June 6, 2006

hi - with friends like that u are better off w/o

them- i am so sorry she was so hurtfull- Just remember

u dont need to prove a thing to her or anyone else- We

all know that u are sick and understand how hard it is

for u- u have our support 100% and for those that dont

want to admit that there loved ones or friends have

this illness it says more about them and there own

lack of understanding of chronic illnessess MATT

--- Solberg mary_s777@...> wrote:

> ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'?

> friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so

> sick...that I just didn't want to do housework

> anymore. I think she got this from 'her'

> perspective not mine cuz she never was the best

> housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than

> hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house

> has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another

> point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was

> able to sit in church. I heard this several times.

> They forget the part about getting dressed after

> taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to

> and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also

> took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting

> dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and

> find a chair. By the time I would get there I

> wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed.

> The good thing is that the people at my church are

> very understanding and compassionate and know that

> when I do get there it's been an

> ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her

> the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they

> laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup,

> they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so

> much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I

> was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the

> point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has

> seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so

> sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain.

> I have had to separate myself from her because of

> these constant hurtful things she says and now she's

> using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is

> also a very competitive person. Once when I had

> lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and

> said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous.

> Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my

> own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept

> weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit

> harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I

> wouldn't have had any

> friends at all. thanks for being there for me,

> too. hugs S.

> __________________________________________________

>

June 6, 2006

hi - with friends like that u are better off w/o

them- i am so sorry she was so hurtfull- Just remember

u dont need to prove a thing to her or anyone else- We

all know that u are sick and understand how hard it is

for u- u have our support 100% and for those that dont

want to admit that there loved ones or friends have

this illness it says more about them and there own

lack of understanding of chronic illnessess MATT

--- Solberg mary_s777@...> wrote:

> ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'?

> friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so

> sick...that I just didn't want to do housework

> anymore. I think she got this from 'her'

> perspective not mine cuz she never was the best

> housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than

> hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house

> has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another

> point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was

> able to sit in church. I heard this several times.

> They forget the part about getting dressed after

> taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to

> and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also

> took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting

> dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and

> find a chair. By the time I would get there I

> wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed.

> The good thing is that the people at my church are

> very understanding and compassionate and know that

> when I do get there it's been an

> ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her

> the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they

> laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup,

> they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so

> much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I

> was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the

> point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has

> seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so

> sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain.

> I have had to separate myself from her because of

> these constant hurtful things she says and now she's

> using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is

> also a very competitive person. Once when I had

> lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and

> said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous.

> Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my

> own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept

> weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit

> harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I

> wouldn't have had any

> friends at all. thanks for being there for me,

> too. hugs S.

> __________________________________________________

>

June 6, 2006

Thanks Matt, it means alot to me to have your support. You always have such good advice. hope you're feeling better. hugs S. Cohen wrote: hi - with friends like that u are better off w/othem- i am so sorry she was so hurtfull- Just rememberu dont need to prove a thing to her or anyone else- Weall know that u are sick and understand how hard it isfor u- u have our support 100% and for those that dontwant to admit that

there loved ones or friends havethis illness it says more about them and there ownlack of understanding of chronic illnessess MATT --- Solberg <mary_s777 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:> ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? > friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so> sick...that I just didn't want to do housework> anymore. I think she got this from 'her'> perspective not mine cuz she never was the best> housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than> hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house> has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another> point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was> able to sit in church. I heard this several times. > They forget the part about getting dressed after> taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to> and from church and sitting in hard

chairs. It also> took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting> dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and> find a chair. By the time I would get there I> wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. > The good thing is that the people at my church are> very understanding and compassionate and know that> when I do get there it's been an> ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her> the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they> laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup,> they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so> much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I> was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the> point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has> seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so> sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. > I have had to separate myself from her because

of> these constant hurtful things she says and now she's> using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is> also a very competitive person. Once when I had> lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and> said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous.> Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my> own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept> weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit> harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I> wouldn't have had any> friends at all. thanks for being there for me,> too. hugs S.> __________________________________________________>

June 6, 2006

Thanks Matt, it means alot to me to have your support. You always have such good advice. hope you're feeling better. hugs S. Cohen wrote: hi - with friends like that u are better off w/othem- i am so sorry she was so hurtfull- Just rememberu dont need to prove a thing to her or anyone else- Weall know that u are sick and understand how hard it isfor u- u have our support 100% and for those that dontwant to admit that

there loved ones or friends havethis illness it says more about them and there ownlack of understanding of chronic illnessess MATT --- Solberg <mary_s777 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:> ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? > friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so> sick...that I just didn't want to do housework> anymore. I think she got this from 'her'> perspective not mine cuz she never was the best> housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than> hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house> has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another> point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was> able to sit in church. I heard this several times. > They forget the part about getting dressed after> taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to> and from church and sitting in hard

chairs. It also> took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting> dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and> find a chair. By the time I would get there I> wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. > The good thing is that the people at my church are> very understanding and compassionate and know that> when I do get there it's been an> ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her> the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they> laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup,> they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so> much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I> was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the> point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has> seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so> sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. > I have had to separate myself from her because

of> these constant hurtful things she says and now she's> using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is> also a very competitive person. Once when I had> lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and> said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous.> Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my> own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept> weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit> harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I> wouldn't have had any> friends at all. thanks for being there for me,> too. hugs S.> __________________________________________________>

June 6, 2006

Thanks Matt, it means alot to me to have your support. You always have such good advice. hope you're feeling better. hugs S. Cohen wrote: hi - with friends like that u are better off w/othem- i am so sorry she was so hurtfull- Just rememberu dont need to prove a thing to her or anyone else- Weall know that u are sick and understand how hard it isfor u- u have our support 100% and for those that dontwant to admit that

there loved ones or friends havethis illness it says more about them and there ownlack of understanding of chronic illnessess MATT --- Solberg <mary_s777 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:> ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? > friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so> sick...that I just didn't want to do housework> anymore. I think she got this from 'her'> perspective not mine cuz she never was the best> housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than> hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house> has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another> point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was> able to sit in church. I heard this several times. > They forget the part about getting dressed after> taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to> and from church and sitting in hard

chairs. It also> took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting> dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and> find a chair. By the time I would get there I> wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. > The good thing is that the people at my church are> very understanding and compassionate and know that> when I do get there it's been an> ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her> the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they> laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup,> they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so> much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I> was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the> point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has> seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so> sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. > I have had to separate myself from her because

of> these constant hurtful things she says and now she's> using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is> also a very competitive person. Once when I had> lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and> said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous.> Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my> own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept> weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit> harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I> wouldn't have had any> friends at all. thanks for being there for me,> too. hugs S.> __________________________________________________>

June 6, 2006

Jeanne, I also love that song. It is a favorite of mine, too. Your words are like a sweet salve to my heart. This woman is not known for her compassionate nature but I had never heard her actually say such vicious things before. Though the things she said hurt me deeply...I truly believe something is going on with her heart and that not all of this anger is really placed at the right person. I was just a convenient target. She also knows that I very seldom launched verbal attacks towards people(at least not right at their face...maybe later when i think of what I should have said...lol). She is the one with the problem. But it still hurts doesn't it. When people get legalistic they also harden their hearts. Thank you so much for your comforting healing words. big hugs S.Jeanne Betters

wrote: this makes me absolutely sick to think that someone as wonderful as you would even encounter someone so rotten as this woman and her husband. It makes me SICK! And she calls herself a Christian, too? People like those are the kind that make people hate Christians, dang it!!! I don't want to be associated with people like that!!!! Geez... How in the world can anyone belittle someone else? Or make fun of someone else? Or treat anyone with

disrespect and callousness? Or not really care and have concern about someone who is suffering?! As a child of God, she has a long way to go. I am SICK that ANYONE would hurt YOU of ALL people like this!!! And the worst part is I know you have such a dear, gentle heart that these things really did hurt you deeply. You HAVE to know that you are so much more than this. I love you and I'm not a violent person at all, but right now I just want to pound that woman's head off the sidewalk!!! LOL!! Now shame on me, huh? God love and forgive me. I've got a long way to go, too. My Dad always said you can never really know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (old Indian proverb). That is so very true. How dare they treat you like that!! Uck!!! Sandy Patti sings this song called,

"In Heaven's Eyes." It is one of my most favorite songs in the entire world: "A fervent prayer rose up to Heaven, A fragile soul was losing ground Sorting through the earthly babble, Heaven heard the sound.... This was a life of no distinction, No successes... Only tries, Yet gazing down on this "unlovely" one, There was love... in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... The orphan child; the wayward father The homeless traveler in the rain When life goes by and no one bothers, Heaven feels the pain.... Looking down God sees each heartache Knows each sorrow, hears each cry And looking on, you'll see compassion's fire Ablaze in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... ...there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, And we're amazed by the grace we can find... In Heaven's eyes." This song makes me weep every time

I hear it. If I could, I'd sing it to you myself right this very minute. I sang it here to myself for you - for ALL of us - instead (Lucky you not to have to have your earbones broken! wink wink). I wish I could give you a great, big, warm sister-hug so you never have to feel that way again no matter what anyone ever says or does to you in life. God love you, . He does love you, and I pray you know that more and more with each passing moment. And I pray He continues to give you the compassion of forgiveness for His other children that quite haven't progressed to solid food. My heart holds yours in prayer, my friend, Jeannie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are

very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which

is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Jeanne, I also love that song. It is a favorite of mine, too. Your words are like a sweet salve to my heart. This woman is not known for her compassionate nature but I had never heard her actually say such vicious things before. Though the things she said hurt me deeply...I truly believe something is going on with her heart and that not all of this anger is really placed at the right person. I was just a convenient target. She also knows that I very seldom launched verbal attacks towards people(at least not right at their face...maybe later when i think of what I should have said...lol). She is the one with the problem. But it still hurts doesn't it. When people get legalistic they also harden their hearts. Thank you so much for your comforting healing words. big hugs S.Jeanne Betters

wrote: this makes me absolutely sick to think that someone as wonderful as you would even encounter someone so rotten as this woman and her husband. It makes me SICK! And she calls herself a Christian, too? People like those are the kind that make people hate Christians, dang it!!! I don't want to be associated with people like that!!!! Geez... How in the world can anyone belittle someone else? Or make fun of someone else? Or treat anyone with

disrespect and callousness? Or not really care and have concern about someone who is suffering?! As a child of God, she has a long way to go. I am SICK that ANYONE would hurt YOU of ALL people like this!!! And the worst part is I know you have such a dear, gentle heart that these things really did hurt you deeply. You HAVE to know that you are so much more than this. I love you and I'm not a violent person at all, but right now I just want to pound that woman's head off the sidewalk!!! LOL!! Now shame on me, huh? God love and forgive me. I've got a long way to go, too. My Dad always said you can never really know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (old Indian proverb). That is so very true. How dare they treat you like that!! Uck!!! Sandy Patti sings this song called,

"In Heaven's Eyes." It is one of my most favorite songs in the entire world: "A fervent prayer rose up to Heaven, A fragile soul was losing ground Sorting through the earthly babble, Heaven heard the sound.... This was a life of no distinction, No successes... Only tries, Yet gazing down on this "unlovely" one, There was love... in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... The orphan child; the wayward father The homeless traveler in the rain When life goes by and no one bothers, Heaven feels the pain.... Looking down God sees each heartache Knows each sorrow, hears each cry And looking on, you'll see compassion's fire Ablaze in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... ...there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, And we're amazed by the grace we can find... In Heaven's eyes." This song makes me weep every time

I hear it. If I could, I'd sing it to you myself right this very minute. I sang it here to myself for you - for ALL of us - instead (Lucky you not to have to have your earbones broken! wink wink). I wish I could give you a great, big, warm sister-hug so you never have to feel that way again no matter what anyone ever says or does to you in life. God love you, . He does love you, and I pray you know that more and more with each passing moment. And I pray He continues to give you the compassion of forgiveness for His other children that quite haven't progressed to solid food. My heart holds yours in prayer, my friend, Jeannie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are

very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which

is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Jeanne, I also love that song. It is a favorite of mine, too. Your words are like a sweet salve to my heart. This woman is not known for her compassionate nature but I had never heard her actually say such vicious things before. Though the things she said hurt me deeply...I truly believe something is going on with her heart and that not all of this anger is really placed at the right person. I was just a convenient target. She also knows that I very seldom launched verbal attacks towards people(at least not right at their face...maybe later when i think of what I should have said...lol). She is the one with the problem. But it still hurts doesn't it. When people get legalistic they also harden their hearts. Thank you so much for your comforting healing words. big hugs S.Jeanne Betters

wrote: this makes me absolutely sick to think that someone as wonderful as you would even encounter someone so rotten as this woman and her husband. It makes me SICK! And she calls herself a Christian, too? People like those are the kind that make people hate Christians, dang it!!! I don't want to be associated with people like that!!!! Geez... How in the world can anyone belittle someone else? Or make fun of someone else? Or treat anyone with

disrespect and callousness? Or not really care and have concern about someone who is suffering?! As a child of God, she has a long way to go. I am SICK that ANYONE would hurt YOU of ALL people like this!!! And the worst part is I know you have such a dear, gentle heart that these things really did hurt you deeply. You HAVE to know that you are so much more than this. I love you and I'm not a violent person at all, but right now I just want to pound that woman's head off the sidewalk!!! LOL!! Now shame on me, huh? God love and forgive me. I've got a long way to go, too. My Dad always said you can never really know a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes (old Indian proverb). That is so very true. How dare they treat you like that!! Uck!!! Sandy Patti sings this song called,

"In Heaven's Eyes." It is one of my most favorite songs in the entire world: "A fervent prayer rose up to Heaven, A fragile soul was losing ground Sorting through the earthly babble, Heaven heard the sound.... This was a life of no distinction, No successes... Only tries, Yet gazing down on this "unlovely" one, There was love... in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... The orphan child; the wayward father The homeless traveler in the rain When life goes by and no one bothers, Heaven feels the pain.... Looking down God sees each heartache Knows each sorrow, hears each cry And looking on, you'll see compassion's fire Ablaze in Heaven's eyes... In Heaven's eyes, there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, Amazed by the grace we can find... ...In Heaven's eyes... ...there are no losers... In Heaven's eyes, no hopeless cause... Only people like you, With feelings like me, And we're amazed by the grace we can find... In Heaven's eyes." This song makes me weep every time

I hear it. If I could, I'd sing it to you myself right this very minute. I sang it here to myself for you - for ALL of us - instead (Lucky you not to have to have your earbones broken! wink wink). I wish I could give you a great, big, warm sister-hug so you never have to feel that way again no matter what anyone ever says or does to you in life. God love you, . He does love you, and I pray you know that more and more with each passing moment. And I pray He continues to give you the compassion of forgiveness for His other children that quite haven't progressed to solid food. My heart holds yours in prayer, my friend, Jeannie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are

very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which

is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Rose, ... friends and family also know us so well as to what would really hurt us. I'll have to look up the words to those songs. I can't recall them right now. The hard part of all this is that she lives downstairs and is also my landlord . I guess that, in a way, keeps me from opening my mouth and saying something I shouldn't...lol. I guess it's just another thing to add to the list of things to grieve over hey? I'm choosing to 'look ahead' and walk with my supportive sarc friends and leave behind that which is in the past. It's abit hard to do when you see 'someone' often though...lol. I guess we all have our 'ex's'. hugs S.Rose wrote: , have you heard the song "Why?" by Card? The first verse is so often true for all of us. It goes like this: Why did it have to be a friend who chose to betray the Lord? And why did he use a kiss to show them? That's not what a kiss is

for. Only a friend can betray a friend, a stranger has nothing to gain And only a friend gets close enough to ever cause so much pain The alternative, I guess, is another song, "I am a Rock" by Simon & Garfunkel. Ramblin' Rose Moderator Reply-To: Neurosarcoidosis To: "neurosarcoidosis " <neurosarcoidosis >Subject: Hurtful encounters...Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT) ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the

part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for

pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Rose, ... friends and family also know us so well as to what would really hurt us. I'll have to look up the words to those songs. I can't recall them right now. The hard part of all this is that she lives downstairs and is also my landlord . I guess that, in a way, keeps me from opening my mouth and saying something I shouldn't...lol. I guess it's just another thing to add to the list of things to grieve over hey? I'm choosing to 'look ahead' and walk with my supportive sarc friends and leave behind that which is in the past. It's abit hard to do when you see 'someone' often though...lol. I guess we all have our 'ex's'. hugs S.Rose wrote: , have you heard the song "Why?" by Card? The first verse is so often true for all of us. It goes like this: Why did it have to be a friend who chose to betray the Lord? And why did he use a kiss to show them? That's not what a kiss is

for. Only a friend can betray a friend, a stranger has nothing to gain And only a friend gets close enough to ever cause so much pain The alternative, I guess, is another song, "I am a Rock" by Simon & Garfunkel. Ramblin' Rose Moderator Reply-To: Neurosarcoidosis To: "neurosarcoidosis " <neurosarcoidosis >Subject: Hurtful encounters...Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT) ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the

part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for

pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Rose, ... friends and family also know us so well as to what would really hurt us. I'll have to look up the words to those songs. I can't recall them right now. The hard part of all this is that she lives downstairs and is also my landlord . I guess that, in a way, keeps me from opening my mouth and saying something I shouldn't...lol. I guess it's just another thing to add to the list of things to grieve over hey? I'm choosing to 'look ahead' and walk with my supportive sarc friends and leave behind that which is in the past. It's abit hard to do when you see 'someone' often though...lol. I guess we all have our 'ex's'. hugs S.Rose wrote: , have you heard the song "Why?" by Card? The first verse is so often true for all of us. It goes like this: Why did it have to be a friend who chose to betray the Lord? And why did he use a kiss to show them? That's not what a kiss is

for. Only a friend can betray a friend, a stranger has nothing to gain And only a friend gets close enough to ever cause so much pain The alternative, I guess, is another song, "I am a Rock" by Simon & Garfunkel. Ramblin' Rose Moderator Reply-To: Neurosarcoidosis To: "neurosarcoidosis " <neurosarcoidosis >Subject: Hurtful encounters...Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 10:43:45 -0700 (PDT) ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the

part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for

pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Connie, I agree with everything you said. Call it karma or the golden rule or'that which goes around comes around'. I often wonder what might have happened in her childhood to make her this way. This shocking type of hardness of heart has got to come from somewhere/some prior event. It's really no way to live is it?... I naively thought you should always try to be friends with everybody but that's just not possible. hugs S.Connie Griffis wrote: It stinks that there are people that call themselves human that can act like that. Personally I would be afraid if I was them, they are not dead yet and health problems are not picky about who they attack. I do not wish her any harm, but to many times I have seen people like this find out the hard way that they should have been kinder. She also needs to look up the definition of friend, she doesn't qualify. You were smart to distance yourself, as bad as we hate it; sometimes that's the only thing we can do. Hugs coming yur way chica......Connie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I

think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed

hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being

there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Connie, I agree with everything you said. Call it karma or the golden rule or'that which goes around comes around'. I often wonder what might have happened in her childhood to make her this way. This shocking type of hardness of heart has got to come from somewhere/some prior event. It's really no way to live is it?... I naively thought you should always try to be friends with everybody but that's just not possible. hugs S.Connie Griffis wrote: It stinks that there are people that call themselves human that can act like that. Personally I would be afraid if I was them, they are not dead yet and health problems are not picky about who they attack. I do not wish her any harm, but to many times I have seen people like this find out the hard way that they should have been kinder. She also needs to look up the definition of friend, she doesn't qualify. You were smart to distance yourself, as bad as we hate it; sometimes that's the only thing we can do. Hugs coming yur way chica......Connie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I

think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed

hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being

there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 6, 2006

Connie, I agree with everything you said. Call it karma or the golden rule or'that which goes around comes around'. I often wonder what might have happened in her childhood to make her this way. This shocking type of hardness of heart has got to come from somewhere/some prior event. It's really no way to live is it?... I naively thought you should always try to be friends with everybody but that's just not possible. hugs S.Connie Griffis wrote: It stinks that there are people that call themselves human that can act like that. Personally I would be afraid if I was them, they are not dead yet and health problems are not picky about who they attack. I do not wish her any harm, but to many times I have seen people like this find out the hard way that they should have been kinder. She also needs to look up the definition of friend, she doesn't qualify. You were smart to distance yourself, as bad as we hate it; sometimes that's the only thing we can do. Hugs coming yur way chica......Connie Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I

think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed

hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being

there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

June 7, 2006

, Yes, I'm still subscribed. Can't seem to distance myself from all of you. I'm really sorry that these people treat you like they do. Guess they really weren't very good friends to begin with. Steve had one very good friend. They were friends sinse they were 10 years old. He is worth millions. Literally! Made it in the fishing industry. Owns several fishing boats. He came to see Steve all the time. Even put the gown and mask on to see him in ICU., you are such a beautiful person. Always the first to offer help and comfort on this site. These people just don't know what they will miss in their lives without you for a friend. God bless Shirley (Steves mom) Solberg wrote: ...speaking of 'encounters'... One of my 'best'? friends and her husband decided I wasn't really so sick...that I just didn't want to do housework anymore. I think she got this from 'her' perspective not mine cuz she never was the best housekeeper. My house was always cleaner than hers...so why not hit me when I'm low and my house has been messy cuz i've been really sick. Another point of hers... that if I was able to paint...I was able to sit in church. I heard this several times. They forget the part about getting dressed after taking a shower(already exhausted) then the drive to and from church and

sitting in hard chairs. It also took me nearly five minutes to walk from getting dropped off to get inside and climb down stairs and find a chair. By the time I would get there I wanted to turn around and go home and go to bed. The good thing is that the people at my church are very understanding and compassionate and know that when I do get there it's been an ordeal. (She goes to my old church). I gave her the booklet.....But You Look Good..... and they laughed hardily at several passages in it. yup, they did. I never knew a friend could hurt me so much. They just took it all totally wrong...like I was saying I looked so good... which wasn't the point of it at all. The funny thing is that she has seen me in the ICU and hospital and I've been so sick I had to have a nebulizer and shots for pain. I have had to separate myself from her because of these constant hurtful things she says and now she's

using 'that' to say more stuff about me. She is also a very competitive person. Once when I had lost alot of weight she asked me what I weighed and said ...well, I still weigh less than you. Jealous. Toxic. so I have had to keep my distance for my own sanity...which is so sad. I have come to accept weird doctors but the weird 'friends' is a bit harder. If I hadn't had this group over the years I wouldn't have had any friends at all. thanks for being there for me, too. hugs S. __________________________________________________

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