Re: Signs of iron or zinc deficiency?

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I'm no doctor but this is what I've learned from my son who is also anemic.

He had a CBC blood test done it include

white blood count

red blood count

hemoglobin

hematrocrit

Absolute Neutrophils

etc.

My son was low on all of these. The first three are signs of anemia if low

and the hematrocrit is a red cell test and it helps to confirm anemia. The

neutrophils is a reduction in the normal number of circulating white blood

cells in the bloodstream. These cells are the first to attack bacterial

infections. A possible cause is arsenic, which my son's hair test revealed.

From what I've read Anemia is a symptom of other disorders for proper

treatment cause must be found. In my son's case I think it is the metals

that are doing it to him. He's on every supplement under the sun. And you're

right nothing contains iron. I sneak amaranth grain which is loaded with

iron into his food. When I asked the Dr. he wasn't too worried about it

(time was up) and he shelved it for our next visit (which is Monday) I will

ask him about it and let you know. We are on a mission to chelate and think

that will eventually let his body absorb what it needs from the food etc. He

is on both enzymes. But only one for past 2 months and the pepside for past

2 weeks.

Oh his Ferritin was high 506 NG/ML in range of 10-105, I thought that was

iron but I'm not sure.

Anyway, someone mentioned they gave Thorne Iron Citrate to their 9 yr old who

weighed 56# and they gave him 1/2 capsule /day and it took care of his

anemia over time. I tried various iron/herb supplements and the herbs made

him sick.

My son is white as a ghost and has little energy as well. It breaks my

heart.

Holly

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http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?

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This site has a thorough description of zinc and deficiencies. The

zinc problem keeps popping up all over. It was mentioned in the two

FEAT articles today on the bi-polar saying that the people who were

low in zinc didn't respond well to the meds, and also that many ADHD

people are very low in zinc. Zinc deficiency also leads to skin

problems.

Link to skin problems, nutrient deficiencies and foods to eat (notice

a lot of milk and whole grains!)

http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/eatingforenergy/012500.htm

.

[Guest guest]

haem iron which is the red in meat is the best form of iron being

naturally passivated.

liver is just chock solid with iron.

does he take enzymes, these should make the haem iron in meat more

bioavailaiable. please don't tell me u are vegetarian.

mineral iron is reactive an not suitable as a supplement in my

opinion and not suitable for use in breakfast cereals thoguh i notice

stupidcorps put it in.

picolinate is a waste metabolite and again not suitable as a

form for supplements.

zinc gluconate and acetate seem to be ok forms of zinc

http://www.coldcure.com/html/total.html

> Hi, all.

>

> What are the signs of an iron or zinc deficiency? I think my son

is

> deficient in iron (we are running a blood test now). He is

extremely

> pale, tired, and a little whiney. He also gets no iron in his

> multivitamin (despite my pleas to our nutritionist). He gets zinc

> picolinate in his multivitamin.

>

> Also, if he is deficient, does anyone have a good iron supplement

> they use that is pure and absorbable?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Liz

[Guest guest]

Thank you!

Hopefully, we will get his blood test results back in the next few

weeks. In the meantime, I have started supplementing with iron (1/2

of the RDA), to see if I see any change. My dad (a pediatrician)

said it could take some time before I see any effect from

supplementing with iron.

I'll keep you posted.

Liz

> Hi:

> I'm no doctor but this is what I've learned from my son who is also

anemic.

> He had a CBC blood test done it include

> white blood count

> red blood count

> hemoglobin

> hematrocrit

> Absolute Neutrophils

> etc.

>

> My son was low on all of these. The first three are signs of

anemia if low

> and the hematrocrit is a red cell test and it helps to confirm

anemia. The

> neutrophils is a reduction in the normal number of circulating

white blood

> cells in the bloodstream. These cells are the first to attack

bacterial

> infections. A possible cause is arsenic, which my son's hair test

revealed.

>

> From what I've read Anemia is a symptom of other disorders for

proper

> treatment cause must be found. In my son's case I think it is the

metals

> that are doing it to him. He's on every supplement under the sun.

And you're

> right nothing contains iron. I sneak amaranth grain which is

loaded with

> iron into his food. When I asked the Dr. he wasn't too worried

about it

> (time was up) and he shelved it for our next visit (which is

Monday) I will

> ask him about it and let you know. We are on a mission to chelate

and think

> that will eventually let his body absorb what it needs from the

food etc. He

> is on both enzymes. But only one for past 2 months and the pepside

for past

> 2 weeks.

>

> Oh his Ferritin was high 506 NG/ML in range of 10-105, I thought

that was

> iron but I'm not sure.

>

> Anyway, someone mentioned they gave Thorne Iron Citrate to their 9

yr old who

> weighed 56# and they gave him 1/2 capsule /day and it took care of

his

> anemia over time. I tried various iron/herb supplements and the

herbs made

> him sick.

>

> My son is white as a ghost and has little energy as well. It

breaks my

> heart.

>

> Holly

[Guest guest]

Thank you

> http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/article.asp?

> PageType=article & ID=2071

>

> This site has a thorough description of zinc and deficiencies. The

> zinc problem keeps popping up all over. It was mentioned in the two

> FEAT articles today on the bi-polar saying that the people who were

> low in zinc didn't respond well to the meds, and also that many

ADHD

> people are very low in zinc. Zinc deficiency also leads to skin

> problems.

>

> Link to skin problems, nutrient deficiencies and foods to eat

(notice

> a lot of milk and whole grains!)

> http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/eatingforenergy/012500.htm

>

> .

[Guest guest]

What is mineral iron? Is that ferrous fumerate? What do you mean it

is reactive and not suitable as a supplement? What is a waste

metabolite (i.e., zinc picolinate)? Does that mean that he is not

absorbing any of the zinc (or very little) that is in his

multivitamin?

We are not vegetarians (my son loves hamburgers, buffalo burgers,

etc., but I don't think he is getting enough of these essential

elements through diet alone.

Thanks!!

> > Hi, all.

> >

> > What are the signs of an iron or zinc deficiency? I think my son

> is

> > deficient in iron (we are running a blood test now). He is

> extremely

> > pale, tired, and a little whiney. He also gets no iron in his

> > multivitamin (despite my pleas to our nutritionist). He gets

zinc

> > picolinate in his multivitamin.

> >

> > Also, if he is deficient, does anyone have a good iron supplement

> > they use that is pure and absorbable?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Liz

[Guest guest]

mineral iron oxidises easily, thats how it forms rust. biological

iron, (haem iron) is naturally passivated and that is how the body is

designed to absorb it.

searching on google about ferrous fumarate, they say it is the least

toxic of the iron salts, which means there is a toxicity problem.

i would imagine that houstonni enzymes in conjunction with meat in

the diet would give a lot more iron if there was a digestive efficncy

problem.

picolinate is an amino acid that the zinc is bound to to improve

absorbtion of the zinc. it already exists in the body as a kidney

waste metabolite which suggests it is not a good form of amino acid

to bind to. practically i know that it causes problems with chromium

picolinate and i think it reasonable to suggest that it also may be a

problem with zinc, maybe contibuting to hyperness.

does you son use enzymes at all? does he have digestive issues?

> > > Hi, all.

> > >

> > > What are the signs of an iron or zinc deficiency? I think my

son

> > is

> > > deficient in iron (we are running a blood test now). He is

> > extremely

> > > pale, tired, and a little whiney. He also gets no iron in his

> > > multivitamin (despite my pleas to our nutritionist). He gets

> zinc

> > > picolinate in his multivitamin.

> > >

> > > Also, if he is deficient, does anyone have a good iron

supplement

> > > they use that is pure and absorbable?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > Liz