Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Hello MartyWho- Just a thought, but Greens+, a product that has helped me a lot lately, advertises that it is useful in minimizing the side effects of chemotherapy. I take it for general nutrition. It is a green powder mixture. See www.greensplus.com. - Art [ ] Help with mouth sores > Does anyone have any recommendations for dealing with mouth sores > caused by chemo? My girlfriend has been getting high dose chemo for > since july and has actually been doing quite well with the side > effects, but now these sores are really irritating for her? I tried to > have her swish aloe gel in her mouth and, admittedly, that stuff does > not taste good at all. Maybe there is a different form of aloe I can > try? > Thanks for any suggestions or anecdotes. > Marty > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Thanks Art. I have some KyoGreen. I start giving that to her every day. Besides the high level of B Vitamins, I think it is also good for raising oxygen levels. Marty --- " A. C. Brown " <abrown101@...> wrote: > Hello MartyWho- > > Just a thought, but Greens+, a product that has > helped me a lot lately, > advertises that it is useful in minimizing the side > effects of chemotherapy. > I take it for general nutrition. > > It is a green powder mixture. See > www.greensplus.com. > > - Art > > > > > [ ] Help with mouth sores > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for dealing > with mouth sores > > caused by chemo? My girlfriend has been getting > high dose chemo for > > since july and has actually been doing quite well > with the side > > effects, but now these sores are really irritating > for her? I tried to > > have her swish aloe gel in her mouth and, > admittedly, that stuff does > > not taste good at all. Maybe there is a different > form of aloe I can > > try? > > Thanks for any suggestions or anecdotes. > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Try chewing licorice root. Rand " A. C. Brown " <abrown101@...> wrote: Hello MartyWho- Just a thought, but Greens+, a product that has helped me a lot lately, advertises that it is useful in minimizing the side effects of chemotherapy. I take it for general nutrition. It is a green powder mixture. See www.greensplus.com. - Art [ ] Help with mouth sores > Does anyone have any recommendations for dealing with mouth sores > caused by chemo? My girlfriend has been getting high dose chemo for > since july and has actually been doing quite well with the side > effects, but now these sores are really irritating for her? I tried to > have her swish aloe gel in her mouth and, admittedly, that stuff does > not taste good at all. Maybe there is a different form of aloe I can > try? > Thanks for any suggestions or anecdotes. > Marty > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Thanks Rand. Ralph Moss also said that the amino acid L-Glutamine is very helpful to take before during and after chemo treatments to alleviate mouth sores. --- Rand <aesculapius_ca@...> wrote: > > Try chewing licorice root. > Rand > " A. C. Brown " <abrown101@...> wrote: Hello > MartyWho- > > Just a thought, but Greens+, a product that has > helped me a lot lately, > advertises that it is useful in minimizing the side > effects of chemotherapy. > I take it for general nutrition. > > It is a green powder mixture. See > www.greensplus.com. > > - Art > > > > > [ ] Help with mouth sores > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for dealing > with mouth sores > > caused by chemo? My girlfriend has been getting > high dose chemo for > > since july and has actually been doing quite well > with the side > > effects, but now these sores are really irritating > for her? I tried to > > have her swish aloe gel in her mouth and, > admittedly, that stuff does > > not taste good at all. Maybe there is a different > form of aloe I can > > try? > > Thanks for any suggestions or anecdotes. > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 I highly recommend you not use regular tooth paste. When I had mouth sores I started using Arm & Hammer PeroxiCare tooth paste and taking MGN 3. Deering <martywho@...> wrote: Thanks Rand. Ralph Moss also said that the amino acid L-Glutamine is very helpful to take before during and after chemo treatments to alleviate mouth sores. --- Rand <aesculapius_ca@...> wrote: > > Try chewing licorice root. > Rand > " A. C. Brown " <abrown101@...> wrote: Hello > MartyWho- > > Just a thought, but Greens+, a product that has > helped me a lot lately, > advertises that it is useful in minimizing the side > effects of chemotherapy. > I take it for general nutrition. > > It is a green powder mixture. See > www.greensplus.com. > > - Art > > > > > [ ] Help with mouth sores > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for dealing > with mouth sores > > caused by chemo? My girlfriend has been getting > high dose chemo for > > since july and has actually been doing quite well > with the side > > effects, but now these sores are really irritating > for her? I tried to > > have her swish aloe gel in her mouth and, > admittedly, that stuff does > > not taste good at all. Maybe there is a different > form of aloe I can > > try? > > Thanks for any suggestions or anecdotes. > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 My sisters oncologist had her use Biotene mouthwash and tooth paste from the drug store for her mouth sores from chemo plus prescribed nystatin liquid since sometimes thrush can be painful before it is obvious. Eileen [ ] Help with mouth sores > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for dealing > with mouth sores > > caused by chemo? My girlfriend has been getting > high dose chemo for > > since july and has actually been doing quite well > with the side > > effects, but now these sores are really irritating > for her? I tried to > > have her swish aloe gel in her mouth and, > admittedly, that stuff does > > not taste good at all. Maybe there is a different > form of aloe I can > > try? > > Thanks for any suggestions or anecdotes. > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Found this at http://www.healthwell.com/healthnotes/Drug/Chemotherapy.cfm: Mouth sores Chemotherapy frequently causes mouth sores. In one trial, people were given approximately 400,000 IU of beta-carotene per day for three weeks and then 125,000 IU per day for an additional four weeks.4 Those taking beta-carotene still suffered mouth sores, but the mouth sores developed later and tended to be less severe than mouth sores that formed in people receiving the same chemotherapy without beta-carotene. In a study of chemotherapy-induced mouth sores, six of nine patients who applied vitamin E directly to their mouth sores had complete resolution of the sores compared with one of nine patients who applied placebo.5 Others have confirmed the potential for vitamin E to help people with chemotherapy-induced mouth sores.6 Applying vitamin E only once per day was helpful to only some groups of patients in another trial,7 and not all studies have found vitamin E to be effective.8 Until more is known, if vitamin E is used in an attempt to reduce chemotherapy-induced mouth sores, it should be applied topically twice per day and should probably be in the tocopherol (versus tocopheryl) form. A liquid preparation of German chamomile (Matricaria recutita) has been shown to reduce the incidence of mouth sores in people receiving radiation and systemic chemotherapy treatment in an uncontrolled study. When 15 drops of chamomile liquid was taken in 100 mL of warm water at least three times daily, the radiation amount required to produce mouth sores doubled, and their overall incidence and severity decreased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 , I wish I had some answers for you, but the only thing I can think of is to advise you to keep a food journal, although your problem may not be food-related. I uncovered many a problem doing this, although we did not have what you describe here specifically. Keep in mind that food reactions can sometimes be a little delayed which is why writing things down to find a pattern is so necessary. When you figure out the problem, be sure to let us know. > My son has been suffering with these tongue sores that crop up every > two to three months aat the tip of his tongue only. He begins to > drool alot at first and is so miserable banging his head until they > heal and stop after a about a week. i can't figure out if it is a > food or just a virus. he only gets a couple of them that turn white > and heal. It is not thrush, that I know. Began before enzymes so it > isn't that. I do suspect only maple syrup. that is the one thing I > added to his diet before this started. he use to get them more > frquently when I was giving him Zyrtec syrup daily . I thought I had > figured out it was something in the zyrtec called propolyene Glycol. > But this most recent case the wasn't taking the zyrtec so i am so > confused. Life has been shear hell for everyone. Anyone else > dealing with such an issue. Dr. doesn't know what it is just a > canker sore. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 My guess would be that these sores are infective and related only to food in that if a food (or medication) is ingested that your child doesn't tolerate then this extra " stress " allows the infection to break out. Any infection in autistic children seems to cause deterioration in their general condition.The question is what is the infection? It is highly likely to be of viral origin - herpes virus can do this although it is an unusual distribution ( it normally occurs on the lips), hand foot and mouth disease can give oral sores ( check when this happens to see if there are any red spots on the palms of the hands or sloes of the feet) , aphthous ulcers ( again these usually occur on gums or in the skin folds inside the mouth but can effect the tongue.) You could ask your doctor to swab the sores and do virology titres but unfortunately even if you do identify a viral pathogen there is little available to treat viruses outside something like acyclovir for herpes. So, what do you do about it? I would take this as a marker of your child's overall health and do what you are already doing in trying to figure out any consistent trigger factors. Other things that you can look at are those things my improve you child's overall immune system - ? laurcidin, ?olive leaf extract ( I've used neither of these but both claim to help with controlling viruses). I'm sure others on this list will have good ideas Good luck bel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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