Re: Protein (Post Surgical)

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I really think that we need to drop the subject of the person who did not sign there name to their Message. I have seen recently so many messages that people just assume that we know who they are because they are answering someone's question that was just put to them. It is a waste of energy. There are more important issues at hand than the subject about someone not signing their name. It is too bad that the person did not sign their name but it not a reason for so much drama.

Ramona

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I really think that we need to drop the subject of the person who did not sign there name to their Message. I have seen recently so many messages that people just assume that we know who they are because they are answering someone's question that was just put to them. It is a waste of energy. There are more important issues at hand than the subject about someone not signing their name. It is too bad that the person did not sign their name but it not a reason for so much drama.

Ramona

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I just like the personal touch of having a name, any name. For that

matter, none of you knows that I'm LaWanda. Even though a few of you have

met me in person, I am enough of an actress that I could even go by another

name in person without anyone knowing, though I wouldn't do that. I just

think that most of us feel we want to feel we're addressingn a person, and

without a name we don't. LaWanda At 02:49 AM 6/30/05, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>I really don't think the anonymity is the problem here, you can use any

>name or not...but it's the tone of the note, the lack of simple

>politeness and the abruptness of the writer. What could be more

>anonymous than the internet? We all reach out to one another but if we

>never met at a support group, we would all remain vitually anonymous.

>It's true one of us did use a different name but so what? He was still

>the same warm, giving, supportive person. It didn't matter what name he

>used. That's my point and my opinion for whatever that's worth. I think

>we all " play nice " .

>Best to all,

>Maggie

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> > I agree that one should be allowed to remain anonymous

> > if they so wish. Who knows who is lurking here on the

> > list. Also if you think back, we did have a member

> > change his/her screenname to remain anonymous from

> > aquaintances who he/she thought might join the list.

> > Nobody gave that person any grief. Let's play nice.

> > Laurie

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

I just like the personal touch of having a name, any name. For that

matter, none of you knows that I'm LaWanda. Even though a few of you have

met me in person, I am enough of an actress that I could even go by another

name in person without anyone knowing, though I wouldn't do that. I just

think that most of us feel we want to feel we're addressingn a person, and

without a name we don't. LaWanda At 02:49 AM 6/30/05, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>I really don't think the anonymity is the problem here, you can use any

>name or not...but it's the tone of the note, the lack of simple

>politeness and the abruptness of the writer. What could be more

>anonymous than the internet? We all reach out to one another but if we

>never met at a support group, we would all remain vitually anonymous.

>It's true one of us did use a different name but so what? He was still

>the same warm, giving, supportive person. It didn't matter what name he

>used. That's my point and my opinion for whatever that's worth. I think

>we all " play nice " .

>Best to all,

>Maggie

>

>

>

>

> > I agree that one should be allowed to remain anonymous

> > if they so wish. Who knows who is lurking here on the

> > list. Also if you think back, we did have a member

> > change his/her screenname to remain anonymous from

> > aquaintances who he/she thought might join the list.

> > Nobody gave that person any grief. Let's play nice.

> > Laurie

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

As usual, very well done Eleanor! LaWanda At 08:41 AM 6/24/05, you wrote:

>kaiser0000_1 wrote:

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> > 1. Which protein drinks have proven to be the best?

> > a. Powder (e.g., at Vitalady) or pre-mixed (e.g., Bariatrix).

>

>Powder, without a doubt. It tends to be higher quality, cheaper, and

>more portable. You can take a zippy bag or empty water bottle, measure

>in a shake worth, and you're good to go. When it's time for a drink, add

>water, shake and drink. Toss.

>

> > b. Flavors (chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, other)

>

>That depends on your tastebuds. My personal preferences, in decreasing

>order: Champion Nutrition Pure Whey Stack in Chocolate (the basis of

>probably 85-90% of my shakes), Pure Whey Stack in Banana Scream, IDS

>Cinnamon Vanilla (watch out, it's an isolate, and some of us have

>problems with pure isolates. I mix half and half with the Banana Stack,

>add a shake of clove, and it tastes kinda like banana bread), Stack

>Cocoa Mochachino. I do NOT like the Stack Vanilla or Strawberry.

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>I do NOT use either fruit or milk in my shakes. My usual is crushed ice

>(from our refrigerator door) and water, blended. I occasionally add some

>sugarfree syrup (like the Torani's they use in coffee bars, but make

>SURE it's the sugarfree, since the sugared and sugarfree look very

>simlar) or some instant coffee powder. Why mess with perfection?

>

> > 2. What other sources have proven to be of value? E.g., protein

> > bars?

>

>It appears we do not absorb the protein from those nearly as well. In

>addition, many of them have lots of sugar alcohols, which have a side

>effect of causing intestinal cramping, gas, diarrhea in many posties. In

>general, I don't use them. I don't like them, and the ones I DO like, I

>like too much. They end up being more like a candy bar, and this is not

>a good thing.

>

>A fairly reasonable source of protein is something like jerky (beef,

>turkey, whatever floats your boat). Check the label though. Some of them

>have a lot of sugar in them, especially the teriyaki flavors.

>

> > 3. Where are the best purchase sources for the protein (e.g.,

> > Vitalady)?

>

> From my standpoint, Vitalady. Period. Hands down. Alright, it might be

>possible to get a slightly better deal on one or another item, but I

>don't bother. I know whatever she sells is something that is good for

>us, in a form we can use. Her basic philosophy seems to be that if she's

>not willing to put it into her body, she ain't gonna sell it. She is a

>tremendous asset to the WLS community, serving as a very useful source

>of information on several of the Yahoo boards.

>

> > 4. What other post-surgical information can be offered re protein?

>

>There are two boards I highly recommend. The first is the Protein group,

>which can be found at http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/OSSG-Protein.

>The other is the Grads group, which can be found at

>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

>Both groups have a lot of VERY passionate people on them. Some people

>are put off by this, but others of us appreciate it. Neither group is a

>rahrah goodjob warmfuzzy type of group. This doesn't mean they aren't

>supportive, because they are TREMENDOUSLY supportive. They tend to be

>more like a family, who will get in your face when they think you need

>it. There are certain people (like Z, B (the Sacramento area

>one), and many others) who when they write passionately, I tend to

>listen. Many of them have suffered the consequences of NOT taking care

>of themselves, in some cases leading to permanent, painful problems.

>Like I said, I tend to shut up and listen. Those who know me know that

>if I respect someone enough to shut up and listen, that means something!

>

>You cannot post to the Grads group until you are at least a year

>post-op. This is because there are many groups that focus more on the

>pre-ops and newbies, and their questions and problems (will my surgery

>hurt, will I throw up, will my hair fall out, etc.). The Grads group is

>for those dealing with the longer term issues. I actually joined that

>group before my own surgery. There is much to be said for lurking and

>learning.

>

> > Thanks.

>

>You're welcome! Hope I helped some!

>--

>Eleanor Oster

>eleanor@... (personal address)

>www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm

>San , CA

>Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003

> P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA)

>~5'9 " tall

>05/09/2003 319 Orientation

>07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery

>Current ~150 Goal until plastics?

>Goal 140-150?

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