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Hi-I wanted to introduce myself and ask some questions. My name is Helene

and I have 3 year old twin boys. One is PDD-NOS and one is NT with about 8

traditional food allergies. I also suspect he may have intolerances due to

his mood swings and aggressive behaviors, but he may also just be in the

throes of the 3 year old experience. We have been

wheat/dairy/peanut/egg/soy/tree nut/barley free since age 1 due to 's

allergies except for Connor's beveredges. He always had gallons of milk. We

have been cf since January/Connor's diagnosis at age 2 and completely (or so

we hope) gfcf since July. We saw immediate improvements and then steady

gains. I even enrolled Connor in a typical Nursery School for the fall.

Then we went on vacation, celebrated birthdays and hosted holidays and he

regressed. I think it must be a combo of mistakes, overwhelming change in

routines due to vacation/holidays and possible seasonal effect. After asking

an innocent question for pros and cons for enzymes on the gfcfkids list which

started a heated debate, I decided to come here to hear it straight from the

horses' mouth. Patti and in particular inspired me with their personal

accounts and efforts to educate. It's nice to see familiar names.So I am

almost ready to hand my baby and his poor leaky gut over to the teachers in

the preschool disabled class and would like to begin this before he goes into

playdoh/pretzel world. I figure if I can't be 100% positive with everything

I feed him, how can they. Well hello after all of that. I've already learned

volumes worth.

The introductory information was great and here are my questions.

I plan on starting Connor on enzymes as soon as I order and order arrives.

Will starting probiotics a week before this confuse or hinder anything? I

know he tolerates these (Ultra bifidu DF and lactobacillus GG) from previous

month of use.

I also have other supplements from my DAN nutritionist that I never started

and am wondering if any would be of benefit to begin before beginning the

enzymes-we have Moducare with sterols and sterolins, glutagenics with

glutamine,licorice, amd aloe, co-enzyme B complex and citrimin II. The

citrimin is my big question because it has magnesium and zinc-the minerals

suggested for controling hyperactivity when starting enzymes. Would it make

sense to start this first since I have it on hand to avoid problems?

Also it was mentioned in the introductory info that oats help heal the gut.

Has an oat that is gluten free been identified?

Has anyone used the same enzymes on their NT children or would others be

appropriate. I'd be interested in knowing if they could help some of 's

severe mood swings, but obviously don't want to give him something just

because Connor is taking it. I'm sure I had other questions, but they'll

come back to me! Thanks in advance, and thaks for such a kind and gentle

format with so much infor.Helene

[Guest guest]

> Hi-I wanted to introduce myself and ask some questions. My name is

Helene

> and I have 3 year old twin boys. One is PDD-NOS and one is NT with

about 8

> traditional food allergies. I also suspect he may have intolerances

due to

> his mood swings and aggressive behaviors, but he may also just be in

the

> throes of the 3 year old experience.

Mood swings and aggression can be yeast and/or phenol issues.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/phenol.htm

> Then we went on vacation, celebrated birthdays and hosted holidays

and he

> regressed. I think it must be a combo of mistakes, overwhelming

change in

> routines due to vacation/holidays and possible seasonal effect.

Seasonal effect can be phenol induced.

http://home.pacbell.net/cscomp/sad.htm

> The introductory information was great and here are my questions.

> I plan on starting Connor on enzymes as soon as I order and order

arrives.

> Will starting probiotics a week before this confuse or hinder

anything?

My son did not tolerate any probiotics. Additionally, if your child

has a yeast issue, presumably probiotics will create die-off. If

either of these things happens, then you won't know if it is

probiotics/die-off, or bad reaction to enzymes, or enzymes creating

regression/withdrawal. I would wait at least a week between

introducing each of these things.

> and am wondering if any would be of benefit to begin before

beginning the

> enzymes-we have Moducare with sterols and sterolins, glutagenics

with

> glutamine,licorice, amd aloe, co-enzyme B complex and citrimin II.

The

> citrimin is my big question because it has magnesium and zinc-the

minerals

> suggested for controling hyperactivity when starting enzymes. Would

it make

> sense to start this first since I have it on hand to avoid problems?

My son does not tolerate basically any supplements, but I have never

tried the ones you have indicated here. I always recommend starting

each supplement and/or intervention alone, then waiting at least a

week before starting another one.

>

> Also it was mentioned in the introductory info that oats help heal

the gut.

> Has an oat that is gluten free been identified?

My kids do not tolerate gluten, including oats, even with enzymes.

Oats is not the same type of gluten, and even some celiacs can

tolerate it, but not my kids.

>

> Has anyone used the same enzymes on their NT children or would

others be

> appropriate.

I use enzymes with my NT daughter as well as my two AS boys. She has

same food issues as the boys. The enzymes work great with her also.

I'd be interested in knowing if they could help some

of 's

> severe mood swings, but obviously don't want to give him something

just

> because Connor is taking it.

If mood swings are because of phenols, then enzymes help with that

somewhat but not entirely. So you can try and see if they help for

your child.

Dana