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Hi ,

I didn't mean to imply that surgeons cut without good reason! just

that their approach is going to be surgical, not alternatives, since

that is their education and experience. And it's true that my surgeon

couldn't tell the extent of surgery required without seeing my final

molds, he just gave me a general idea of what to expect from my

initial consultation with him (which included a review of the

original molds, xrays and other info provided by my ortho/TMD

specialist).

I just think that a good TMD/TMJ specialist has access to more

alternatives, including non-surgical means.

> > > Is there anyone from the UK who can tell me how they have

managed

> > to

> > > get their doctors to take them seriously.

> > > Been going to the doctors regularly since I was a child (I'm 29

> now)

> > > for facial pain, headaches, really bad sinus trouble etc etc

I'm

> > sure

> > > you all know the other associated problems. Anyway got tired of

> > being

> > > prescribed pills because they were not solving the underlying

> > problem

> > > just masking the pain for a while. Did my own research & found

a

> > > medical article on vertical maxillary excess. I couldnt beleive

> > what

> > > I was reading, it was as if the info had been written about me.

> Did

> > > more reasearch & went back to the docs armed with the info. He

> has

> > > refered me to the maxillofacial surgeon at the local hospital.

I

> > went

> > > to see him yesterday & the doc has refered me for TMJ which is

a

> > > problem but it's a symptom not the cause of my problems.

> > > I told him of my research into VME & how all the associated

> > problems

> > > can be explained by the fact that my top jaw is far to low & he

> > > actually laughed at me & said oh you've been on the internet!

He

> > then

> > > explained away the fact that my upper teeth completely cover my

> > lower

> > > teeth & when I smile I'm all gum (literally)because I was just

> made

> > > that way & everyone is different.then he asked why was I doing

> > > something about it now & why had I never done anything before.

It

> > > just seemed he'd taken offence because I'd researched my

problems

> &

> > > didnt seem to understand that no-one else was helping so I had

to

> > > help myself.I just feel like no-one is taking me seriously yet

> I'm

> > > the one who has to put up with the constant & sometimes

> > debilitating

> > > pain.

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Hi ,

I didn't mean to imply that surgeons cut without good reason! just

that their approach is going to be surgical, not alternatives, since

that is their education and experience. And it's true that my surgeon

couldn't tell the extent of surgery required without seeing my final

molds, he just gave me a general idea of what to expect from my

initial consultation with him (which included a review of the

original molds, xrays and other info provided by my ortho/TMD

specialist).

I just think that a good TMD/TMJ specialist has access to more

alternatives, including non-surgical means.

> > > Is there anyone from the UK who can tell me how they have

managed

> > to

> > > get their doctors to take them seriously.

> > > Been going to the doctors regularly since I was a child (I'm 29

> now)

> > > for facial pain, headaches, really bad sinus trouble etc etc

I'm

> > sure

> > > you all know the other associated problems. Anyway got tired of

> > being

> > > prescribed pills because they were not solving the underlying

> > problem

> > > just masking the pain for a while. Did my own research & found

a

> > > medical article on vertical maxillary excess. I couldnt beleive

> > what

> > > I was reading, it was as if the info had been written about me.

> Did

> > > more reasearch & went back to the docs armed with the info. He

> has

> > > refered me to the maxillofacial surgeon at the local hospital.

I

> > went

> > > to see him yesterday & the doc has refered me for TMJ which is

a

> > > problem but it's a symptom not the cause of my problems.

> > > I told him of my research into VME & how all the associated

> > problems

> > > can be explained by the fact that my top jaw is far to low & he

> > > actually laughed at me & said oh you've been on the internet!

He

> > then

> > > explained away the fact that my upper teeth completely cover my

> > lower

> > > teeth & when I smile I'm all gum (literally)because I was just

> made

> > > that way & everyone is different.then he asked why was I doing

> > > something about it now & why had I never done anything before.

It

> > > just seemed he'd taken offence because I'd researched my

problems

> &

> > > didnt seem to understand that no-one else was helping so I had

to

> > > help myself.I just feel like no-one is taking me seriously yet

> I'm

> > > the one who has to put up with the constant & sometimes

> > debilitating

> > > pain.

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Hi ,

I didn't mean to imply that surgeons cut without good reason! just

that their approach is going to be surgical, not alternatives, since

that is their education and experience. And it's true that my surgeon

couldn't tell the extent of surgery required without seeing my final

molds, he just gave me a general idea of what to expect from my

initial consultation with him (which included a review of the

original molds, xrays and other info provided by my ortho/TMD

specialist).

I just think that a good TMD/TMJ specialist has access to more

alternatives, including non-surgical means.

> > > Is there anyone from the UK who can tell me how they have

managed

> > to

> > > get their doctors to take them seriously.

> > > Been going to the doctors regularly since I was a child (I'm 29

> now)

> > > for facial pain, headaches, really bad sinus trouble etc etc

I'm

> > sure

> > > you all know the other associated problems. Anyway got tired of

> > being

> > > prescribed pills because they were not solving the underlying

> > problem

> > > just masking the pain for a while. Did my own research & found

a

> > > medical article on vertical maxillary excess. I couldnt beleive

> > what

> > > I was reading, it was as if the info had been written about me.

> Did

> > > more reasearch & went back to the docs armed with the info. He

> has

> > > refered me to the maxillofacial surgeon at the local hospital.

I

> > went

> > > to see him yesterday & the doc has refered me for TMJ which is

a

> > > problem but it's a symptom not the cause of my problems.

> > > I told him of my research into VME & how all the associated

> > problems

> > > can be explained by the fact that my top jaw is far to low & he

> > > actually laughed at me & said oh you've been on the internet!

He

> > then

> > > explained away the fact that my upper teeth completely cover my

> > lower

> > > teeth & when I smile I'm all gum (literally)because I was just

> made

> > > that way & everyone is different.then he asked why was I doing

> > > something about it now & why had I never done anything before.

It

> > > just seemed he'd taken offence because I'd researched my

problems

> &

> > > didnt seem to understand that no-one else was helping so I had

to

> > > help myself.I just feel like no-one is taking me seriously yet

> I'm

> > > the one who has to put up with the constant & sometimes

> > debilitating

> > > pain.

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