Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 Hey, guys. The No-Fenol and Peptizyde AFP are currently available as of rigth now. I saw the site just now and the ordering information is up as well....so if you have been waiting. No-Fenol is for phenolic foods and artificial ingredients and preservatives. Peptizyde AFP is a version of Peptizyde without any fruit-derived proteases (bromelain, papain, actinidin (kiwi)) which may be helpful to those that are sensitive to phenols or maybe sulfur too. www.houstonni.com . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 yeah!! I just ordered mine- hope this makes a difference for us before I give up stacey [ ] No-Fenol/AFP Available NOW! Hey, guys. The No-Fenol and Peptizyde AFP are currently available as of rigth now. I saw the site just now and the ordering information is up as well....so if you have been waiting. No-Fenol is for phenolic foods and artificial ingredients and preservatives. Peptizyde AFP is a version of Peptizyde without any fruit-derived proteases (bromelain, papain, actinidin (kiwi)) which may be helpful to those that are sensitive to phenols or maybe sulfur too. www.houstonni.com . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 Thanks , we have just placed our order - this is so exciting to us as our child did a trial with the no phenol - he's been on enzymes now for eight months and is flying - the no phenol is going to help him take another giant step forward in concentration and being with us more and more - this is so wonderful Cheers H [ ] No-Fenol/AFP Available NOW! Hey, guys. The No-Fenol and Peptizyde AFP are currently available as of rigth now. I saw the site just now and the ordering information is up as well....so if you have been waiting. No-Fenol is for phenolic foods and artificial ingredients and preservatives. Peptizyde AFP is a version of Peptizyde without any fruit-derived proteases (bromelain, papain, actinidin (kiwi)) which may be helpful to those that are sensitive to phenols or maybe sulfur too. www.houstonni.com . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 , I'm pretty excited myself. Was your ds on pep. and zp while trying the No Fenol? What positives did you see? Did you give with all food or just when you suspected high phenols? Did you use it with art. colors and flavors? Last one, is your ds on any special diet or just the enzymes? Sorry for all the questions, but I want as much info as possible before we start them. Can't wait to see what happens... God Bless, Sally > Thanks , we have just placed our order - this is so exciting to us as > our child did a trial with the no phenol - he's been on enzymes now for > eight months and is flying - the no phenol is going to help him take > another giant step forward in concentration and being with us more and more > - this is so wonderful > > Cheers H > > -----Original Message----- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2002 Report Share Posted April 4, 2002 Hi Sally, our child takes both with all meals and snacks and while we trialed the no phenol one I gave that to him with all meals and snacks as well - our child is not on any diet anymore - was for almost three years with minor improvements, but lots of stimmy, zoney days - since on enzymes we are back on normal diet with restricted dairy i.e. no drinks of milk or with cereal, but in other foods where in recipe etc. - has goats milk as substiture - he has steadily improved over the last 8 months - - we spent two days teaching our child how to tolerate taking the capsules pulled apart and then having them placed in his mouth - he hated this for a start but is fine with it now and understands that the enzymes lead to yummy food - our child is classified as severe to moderate range - I would put him in the moderate range now and at this rate of progress can see him moving up to mild in about 4 months time - he is seven years of age and has always done intensive ABA and Precision Teaching - for many hours per week, now he is getting it and his language is good, so easy to teach, plus much more social and wanting to join in etc. Good luck - this has been the biggest gain for our child because he is calm enough now to participate - he is on no vitamins,or EFAs, and on one medication which we have been able to half over time. We have done about 8 rounds of chelation, but found it really hard on him so now using PCA in a trial for a month or so to see if there are anymore improvements and will then have his levels re tested etc. I feel like the enzymes settle the child enough to try other things and be able to be objective in making decisions as he is either stable or not depending on the other things, his diet and digestive system I can now trust to be okay. Good luck Cheers H [ ] Re: No-Fenol/AFP Available NOW! , I'm pretty excited myself. Was your ds on pep. and zp while trying the No Fenol? What positives did you see? Did you give with all food or just when you suspected high phenols? Did you use it with art. colors and flavors? Last one, is your ds on any special diet or just the enzymes? Sorry for all the questions, but I want as much info as possible before we start them. Can't wait to see what happens... God Bless, Sally > Thanks , we have just placed our order - this is so exciting to us as > our child did a trial with the no phenol - he's been on enzymes now for > eight months and is flying - the no phenol is going to help him take > another giant step forward in concentration and being with us more and more > - this is so wonderful > > Cheers H > > -----Original Message----- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2002 Report Share Posted April 5, 2002 Hi, Thanks for the info, just ordered mine (the no fenol and the new peptizyde). My son Michel has been on peptizyde/zyme prime since July 01 with good results. But in the meantime I've realised that he does not handle phenol foods and has the pst problem (which is actually probably the reason he did not handle peptizyde on it's own but only when I added zyme prime to it, probably zyme prime was already helping somewhat with the phenol issue), so I've had to suppress many foods and he really is on a very strict diet (Feingold). So I hope with the no fenol and can enlarge is food and specially the fruits (he reacts to most fruits, I've only been able to keep the pears). And mostly, since I assume that notwithstanding the strict diet he still get phenols/salycilates in his food (it's really impossible to supress them, even on the strictest diet) I do hope I can obtain even more progress with no fenols. The things I noticed : - he had more energy and more awareness and interest in the world when I put him on enzymes last summer - but I did have to implement the Feingold diet in the autumn to really improve his attention span and cognitive functions. So I hope I can get that with the no fenol and enlarge his food (especially as summer is coming, I feel so guilty of depriving him of all fruits, yet he reacts very badly to bananas, apples, oranges, well.. just anything but pears and coconuts..). Even with the enzymes he still has soft light colored stools. (he always had a tendency to diarhea, it was even worse before the enzymes). I do not know if the new enzymes will help with that. anyway, I will keep posted of the results. bye e > Hey, guys. The No-Fenol and Peptizyde AFP are currently available as > of rigth now. I saw the site just now and the ordering information is > up as well....so if you have been waiting. > > No-Fenol is for phenolic foods and artificial ingredients and > preservatives. > > Peptizyde AFP is a version of Peptizyde without any fruit-derived > proteases (bromelain, papain, actinidin (kiwi)) which may be helpful > to those that are sensitive to phenols or maybe sulfur too. > > www.houstonni.com > > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 > > www.houstonni.com > The AFP product information is not there yet. Clicking on the AFP link will only take you to the Peptizyde page. https://host6.websitesource.com/houstonni/Order/order.mv? Am I in the wrong page? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 > The AFP product information is not there yet. > Clicking on the AFP link will only take you > to the Peptizyde page. > > https://host6.websitesource.com/houstonni/Order/order.mv? > That is all I can find too. Here is what came with my last order: AFP Peptizyde No Fruit enzymes No Odor or Taste High DPP IV Product For those who are sensitive to fruit-based enzymes such as bromelain and papain, HNI is pleased to offer an all-fungal protease (AFP) version of the best-selling Peptizyde. Papain, which imparts a " distinctive " aroma to Peptizyde, has been removed from the AFP Peptizyde and replaced with another fungal protease with similar proteolytic activity. AFP Peptizyde has no taste or smell, yet retains the high DPP IV peptidase of the original Peptizyde. Children who object to the original Peptizyde may find this version more palatable. May be used with Zyme Prime and/or No-Fenol. Recommended Use: Use 1 or 2 capsules per meal as an alternative to Peptizyde, or if sensitive to papaya enzymes. Peptidase (with DPP IV)...50,000 HUT Protease 4.5 .............25,000 HUT Protease 6.0 .............25,000 HUT 90 capsules for $22.00 Then from other brochure: AFP Peptizyde - for those sensitive to Papain (or its odor!) AFP Peptizyde is dosed in the same manner as Peptizyde. The only difference between these two products is that papain has been eliminated from AFP Peptizyde, and another fungal protease added to it. Both Peptizydes contain high amounts of DPP IV peptidase. Use AFP Peptizyde if a child is intolerant of papain enzymes and/or does not like the odor associated with original Peptizyde (which is due to the sulfite-free papain). Both Peptizyde or AFP Peptizyde are for enhanced breakdown of food proteins, including casein, gluten, and soy. Decreases exorphin peptides derived from foods. Useful as alternative to or supplement to the GFCF diet. Dosage: 1 to 3 capsules with each meal. I will add one note that the AFP lists 50,000 HUT of DPP IV containing peptidase whereas the original lists 62,500 HUT of DPP IV. I am trying a bottle of the AFP to see if this makes any difference with regular use (and you WILL hear about it if it does! LOL). We are very sensitive to casein, but really, after about 1 year on Peptizyde, that sensitivity has dropped off considerably. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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