Re: CNN Correspondent Wearing Ceramic Braces?

November 28, 2003

It's only a point of discussion, you are entirely free to ignore it.

November 28, 2003

No one is dumping on Cammie,

Cammie and have saved this board on more than one occasion, and

are essentially performing the owner/moderator's functions without

receiving any of the glory or recognition. Cammie has never failed

to provide information and unflagging support with wit, wisdom and

utmost generosity of spirit.

Still, we all have had not-so-great days and moments we wish we could

have back. I could never presume to speak for Cammie, but I can and

will attest to her kindness and dedication to this board.

Even though I might disagree with something she has said, and visa-

versa, it doesn't mean that either of us have lost one ounce of

respect and caring for the other.

Boards, like all relationships, are subject to the hiccups that come

from miscommunication or misunderstandings. It should go without

saying that there are never any hard feelings intended.

Cheryl

November 28, 2003

No one is dumping on Cammie,

Cammie and have saved this board on more than one occasion, and

are essentially performing the owner/moderator's functions without

receiving any of the glory or recognition. Cammie has never failed

to provide information and unflagging support with wit, wisdom and

utmost generosity of spirit.

Still, we all have had not-so-great days and moments we wish we could

have back. I could never presume to speak for Cammie, but I can and

will attest to her kindness and dedication to this board.

Even though I might disagree with something she has said, and visa-

versa, it doesn't mean that either of us have lost one ounce of

respect and caring for the other.

Boards, like all relationships, are subject to the hiccups that come

from miscommunication or misunderstandings. It should go without

saying that there are never any hard feelings intended.

Cheryl

November 28, 2003

No one is dumping on Cammie,

Cammie and have saved this board on more than one occasion, and

are essentially performing the owner/moderator's functions without

receiving any of the glory or recognition. Cammie has never failed

to provide information and unflagging support with wit, wisdom and

utmost generosity of spirit.

Still, we all have had not-so-great days and moments we wish we could

have back. I could never presume to speak for Cammie, but I can and

will attest to her kindness and dedication to this board.

Even though I might disagree with something she has said, and visa-

versa, it doesn't mean that either of us have lost one ounce of

respect and caring for the other.

Boards, like all relationships, are subject to the hiccups that come

from miscommunication or misunderstandings. It should go without

saying that there are never any hard feelings intended.

Cheryl

November 28, 2003

Dear, Dear Friends, one and all,

And of course that includes Fiddly and Cheryl, whom I thank

most heartily for their kind words in my behalf...

It also includes Missy and and whoever else I may have

offended, for I do consider you all friends, and honestly wouldn't

consciously condescend to, for, or at any of you.

Sheesh! I wish I hadn't posted at all! I'd rather that than have hurt

any of your feelings.

I do remember all the to-do about Tom Cruise and some others, and

honestly thought that was pretty silly, too. If there's a lesson in

it, for me, anyhow, it's that even folks who make their livelihoods

with their appearances can be secure enough in their abilities and

their self-security to decide what they do and don't need, and that

braces are not so big a bugabear that they avoid getting the help

they need. That's my take.

Nevertheless... I do understand the hesitation to wear braces. I

didn't like them nor want them at all... Not the look, not the feel,

not the expense, not anything about them. Not the first time, and not

the second. I did understand that I needed to do it, and so I did it.

I do think, after a week or so of wearing them, most of us figure out

that the look isn't important, and is not noticed by most other

people. Or if they do notice, they don't care. And that's pretty much

of a relief.

I am in total sympathy with all considering such a project from every

angle. Even with those who choose lingual brackets, which I would

think would be a particular kind of hell. For those who wanted them,

though, they have worked fine and provided a better experience than

the alternative. I have no bone to pick with that.

As for making a choice of what to get, may I offer one suggestion?

Talk openly with your orthodontist about your concerns, and ask to

meet one or more of his patients who is wearing each kind, and talk

with them about their choices and how they reached them, as well as

their level of satisfaction.

Not only will that give you a more personalized sense of what you

may get, but you can hear about the choices from the patient's point

of view. And hey -- if ceramic, clear, metal, lingual, Invisalign,

Damons, gold or whatever, are the choice for you, so be it! I hope

they will do your job, and that you'll be pleased with your choice.

Cammie

November 28, 2003

Dear, Dear Friends, one and all,

And of course that includes Fiddly and Cheryl, whom I thank

most heartily for their kind words in my behalf...

It also includes Missy and and whoever else I may have

offended, for I do consider you all friends, and honestly wouldn't

consciously condescend to, for, or at any of you.

Sheesh! I wish I hadn't posted at all! I'd rather that than have hurt

any of your feelings.

I do remember all the to-do about Tom Cruise and some others, and

honestly thought that was pretty silly, too. If there's a lesson in

it, for me, anyhow, it's that even folks who make their livelihoods

with their appearances can be secure enough in their abilities and

their self-security to decide what they do and don't need, and that

braces are not so big a bugabear that they avoid getting the help

they need. That's my take.

Nevertheless... I do understand the hesitation to wear braces. I

didn't like them nor want them at all... Not the look, not the feel,

not the expense, not anything about them. Not the first time, and not

the second. I did understand that I needed to do it, and so I did it.

I do think, after a week or so of wearing them, most of us figure out

that the look isn't important, and is not noticed by most other

people. Or if they do notice, they don't care. And that's pretty much

of a relief.

I am in total sympathy with all considering such a project from every

angle. Even with those who choose lingual brackets, which I would

think would be a particular kind of hell. For those who wanted them,

though, they have worked fine and provided a better experience than

the alternative. I have no bone to pick with that.

As for making a choice of what to get, may I offer one suggestion?

Talk openly with your orthodontist about your concerns, and ask to

meet one or more of his patients who is wearing each kind, and talk

with them about their choices and how they reached them, as well as

their level of satisfaction.

Not only will that give you a more personalized sense of what you

may get, but you can hear about the choices from the patient's point

of view. And hey -- if ceramic, clear, metal, lingual, Invisalign,

Damons, gold or whatever, are the choice for you, so be it! I hope

they will do your job, and that you'll be pleased with your choice.

Cammie

November 28, 2003

Dear, Dear Friends, one and all,

And of course that includes Fiddly and Cheryl, whom I thank

most heartily for their kind words in my behalf...

It also includes Missy and and whoever else I may have

offended, for I do consider you all friends, and honestly wouldn't

consciously condescend to, for, or at any of you.

Sheesh! I wish I hadn't posted at all! I'd rather that than have hurt

any of your feelings.

I do remember all the to-do about Tom Cruise and some others, and

honestly thought that was pretty silly, too. If there's a lesson in

it, for me, anyhow, it's that even folks who make their livelihoods

with their appearances can be secure enough in their abilities and

their self-security to decide what they do and don't need, and that

braces are not so big a bugabear that they avoid getting the help

they need. That's my take.

Nevertheless... I do understand the hesitation to wear braces. I

didn't like them nor want them at all... Not the look, not the feel,

not the expense, not anything about them. Not the first time, and not

the second. I did understand that I needed to do it, and so I did it.

I do think, after a week or so of wearing them, most of us figure out

that the look isn't important, and is not noticed by most other

people. Or if they do notice, they don't care. And that's pretty much

of a relief.

I am in total sympathy with all considering such a project from every

angle. Even with those who choose lingual brackets, which I would

think would be a particular kind of hell. For those who wanted them,

though, they have worked fine and provided a better experience than

the alternative. I have no bone to pick with that.

As for making a choice of what to get, may I offer one suggestion?

Talk openly with your orthodontist about your concerns, and ask to

meet one or more of his patients who is wearing each kind, and talk

with them about their choices and how they reached them, as well as

their level of satisfaction.

Not only will that give you a more personalized sense of what you

may get, but you can hear about the choices from the patient's point

of view. And hey -- if ceramic, clear, metal, lingual, Invisalign,

Damons, gold or whatever, are the choice for you, so be it! I hope

they will do your job, and that you'll be pleased with your choice.

Cammie

November 30, 2003

Hi ,

My daughter is having a LeFot ! Advance on Dec 10th. For 4 years she had

ceramic braces. Their were marvelous because she performs a lot and where not

noticable from an audience perspective. Then she had the braces off for 2 years

and her lower jaw out grew her upper. After all the consultations with many

orthos and OS's she had braces put back on in May of this year. She could not

have ceramic on this time because she was going to go through many fast changes

and the ceramic do not hold up to stress. The OS also said he preferred her

tohave metal because they go through the stress of the banded better after

surgery. Hope this hleps some. Juli

Re: CNN Correspondent Wearing Ceramic

Braces?

Hi ,

I think your curiosity about ceramic braces is fine on this forum. I

was worried about the appearance of the braces also. I got the

porcelain (ceramic) on the top & bottom and am glad that I did.

For me, having orthognathic surgery was both cosmetic & functional.

I had an open bite and could not chew very well and was also always

breathing through my mouth and suffering from constant headaches.

Cosmetically I just did not like the way the open bite looked and

couldn't wait to fix it.

I had my surgery on Oct. 27 and things went fine for me.

Good luck to you

November 30, 2003