Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Share Posted May 17, 2002 -Stacey, my son was on anti-biotics for 3 weeks and his bowl movements went down hill after about a week on them. He actually had thin snakey bm's and he has not had them like that since doing our intensive yeast treatment all winter. I think the abx irritated his intestines badly and made them swell (I think that is why they get narrow and snakey due to inflamation) and he actually got some bright red blood in at the end of his bowl movement. THe dr had us stop the meds and sure enough his bm's returned to normal within 2 days. It was a combo of the abx irritating the intestines and I think yeast. Patti -- In @y..., " Stacey " <staceydaniel@m...> wrote: > Hi group > > I have not posted in a while. I am still tracking my son's food intake and behavior log before we reintro enzymes. I posted this question on another board and no one responded. I was hoping someone here my have an answer. > > We are still GFCF and plan to reinto enzymes soon. Last Sunday- ds's grandma gave him some regular chicken nuggets. On Wed we had to go to the doctor due to fever and we did not know what else. Turns out he had an ear infection ( his first since going CF in Nov) and a viral infection. Of course, the doc prescribed antibiotics. So, I have doubled up on the probiotics ( we had yeast in control) and was just waiting to see what happened. Today he had a really yeasty diaper ( first in a longggg time). I do not know what to think. The doctor said she did not think this was a reaction to gluten due to the fact that he had a fever but now with the appearance of the " blow out " diaper I am not so sure. Might it be due to his being sick or is this due to antibiotics causing yeast and bacteria flare up. He's been on antibiotics since Wed. Also, as a side note- last week we gave him some regular non GFCF pasta and we saw no reaction whatsoever. So, I'm thinking " Yeah- I'm going to give the enzymes another whirl " and now he's sick. He has also been vomiting and not eating very much at all which is in line with having a virus. Could this be due to the infraction or could it be that he just happened to get sick at the same time? > > My plan is to keep in on diet until he gets well and then try and reinto gluten again. The reason I am doing this is to tell whether GFCF is really working for us or not. Honestly, I can't tell. I saw immediate improvements upon removing casien but after removing gluten the gains were very subtle. We tried enzymes and stuck them out for 6 weeks before giving up ( temporarily). I decided to track food, supplements, and behavior for a while before trying again. Behavior wise, he seems to be retreating from me but he has always done this whenever he has taken antibiotics. > > Sorry so long but I wanted to know what everyone thought. I posted this question on the GFCF board and no one responded. I know a lot of parents are still doing GFCF here so thought someone might know. > > Thanks > Stacey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 Whenever we are sick, everything is " off " . And with antibiotics thrown in. I would just chalk it up to sickness and meds and wait on determining food issues until afterwards. . P.S. Good luck second time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2002 Report Share Posted May 18, 2002 -Stacey-I doubt it was the food. I would just wait until your son is healthy and then try the enzymes so you don't have to worry about mixed reactions. My daughter hasn't had any bm problems since starting enzymes(except once when she first started No Fenol) and she's not gfcf anymore. Good luck and I hope your son is feeling better. -- In @y..., " Stacey " <staceydaniel@m...> wrote: > Hi group > > I have not posted in a while. I am still tracking my son's food intake and behavior log before we reintro enzymes. I posted this question on another board and no one responded. I was hoping someone here my have an answer. > > We are still GFCF and plan to reinto enzymes soon. Last Sunday- ds's grandma gave him some regular chicken nuggets. On Wed we had to go to the doctor due to fever and we did not know what else. Turns out he had an ear infection ( his first since going CF in Nov) and a viral infection. Of course, the doc prescribed antibiotics. So, I have doubled up on the probiotics ( we had yeast in control) and was just waiting to see what happened. Today he had a really yeasty diaper ( first in a longggg time). I do not know what to think. The doctor said she did not think this was a reaction to gluten due to the fact that he had a fever but now with the appearance of the " blow out " diaper I am not so sure. Might it be due to his being sick or is this due to antibiotics causing yeast and bacteria flare up. He's been on antibiotics since Wed. Also, as a side note- last week we gave him some regular non GFCF pasta and we saw no reaction whatsoever. So, I'm thinking " Yeah- I'm going to give the enzymes another whirl " and now he's sick. He has also been vomiting and not eating very much at all which is in line with having a virus. Could this be due to the infraction or could it be that he just happened to get sick at the same time? > > My plan is to keep in on diet until he gets well and then try and reinto gluten again. The reason I am doing this is to tell whether GFCF is really working for us or not. Honestly, I can't tell. I saw immediate improvements upon removing casien but after removing gluten the gains were very subtle. We tried enzymes and stuck them out for 6 weeks before giving up ( temporarily). I decided to track food, supplements, and behavior for a while before trying again. Behavior wise, he seems to be retreating from me but he has always done this whenever he has taken antibiotics. > > Sorry so long but I wanted to know what everyone thought. I posted this question on the GFCF board and no one responded. I know a lot of parents are still doing GFCF here so thought someone might know. > > Thanks > Stacey > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 In a message dated 3/7/06 12:59:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, SaraShaughnessy@... writes: > I usually just take the antibiotic prescription and smile sweetly, then I > just throw it away when I get home, it keeps them from harassing you over it. > I actually had a doctor who got really upset when I told him no on > antibiotics, he made a point of telling me that he was marking it in his chart that I > refused treatment and it was for chicken pox! > > -- > Sara LOL, how funny. I rarely take the kids to the doctor, so this is the first I've had to " refuse " anything, very frustrating. Thanks for the reassurance. Oh, and sorry to hear about the scabby guy in your class, ewwww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 if you decide to take them, I would advise calling your doc and getting a scrip from something milder. Augmentin is a bad idea unless other antibiotics have failed. That is obviously not your situation. Jami, Illinois OT- antibiotics > Just got back from the dr. with my 5 yr old son. Apparently he has some > sort > of infection in his thumb. He bites his nails and the skin on the end of > his > fingertips, so I assume that is how this all started. Last night it was > kind > of a white line around the top of his cuticle and he was comlaining that > it > hurt. So I soaked it in peroxide and left it open to the air last night. > He > woke up about 12:30 and cried for nearly an hour about how much it hurt. > When > we got up this morning, I could see why. The white, pussy, area was at > least > twice the size it was last night and the rest of his thumb was red and > puffy. > It looked like there was a whole lot of pressure on it. So I made an appt > and when we got there and were waiting, he kind of starting pushing on it > and it > broke open enough for him to start pushing some of the puss out of there. > Then the doctor came in and poured betadine all over it and pushed > relentlessly > on it until my son was in tears (gotta love the compassion there). Then > he > said to soak it in warm water and gave us a prescription for an > antibiotic, > looks like Augmentin. I told him I probably wouldn't use the antibiotic > and just > let it run its course and he looked at me like I was a serial killer. He > said > that when there's not an infection there's no need for it, but there > clearly > was an infection and it wouldn't go away without some antibiotics. So I > took > the prescription, drove home, and now I'm asking you guys what you think! > Now > that most of the pressure is relieved by that puss draining, my son is in > virtually no pain, we just put a bandaid on it. My gut is telling me > antibiotics > are silly for this minor infection, but just wanted to get your thoughts. > > Also, what is the consensus on neosporin? The dr. mentioned using that > too, > but isn't that just like an antibiotic cream, same effect as an > antibiotic? > > Thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 At 12:11 PM 3/7/2006 EST, you wrote: >Just got back from the dr. with my 5 yr old son. Apparently he has some sort >of infection in his thumb. He bites his nails and the skin on the end of his >fingertips, so I assume that is how this all started. Last night it was kind >of a white line around the top of his cuticle and he was comlaining that it >hurt. So I soaked it in peroxide and left it open to the air last night. He >woke up about 12:30 and cried for nearly an hour about how much it hurt. When >we got up this morning, I could see why. The white, pussy, area was at least >twice the size it was last night and the rest of his thumb was red and puffy. >It looked like there was a whole lot of pressure on it. So I made an appt >and when we got there and were waiting, he kind of starting pushing on it and it >broke open enough for him to start pushing some of the puss out of there. >Then the doctor came in and poured betadine all over it and pushed relentlessly >on it until my son was in tears (gotta love the compassion there). Then he >said to soak it in warm water and gave us a prescription for an antibiotic, >looks like Augmentin. I told him I probably wouldn't use the antibiotic and just >let it run its course and he looked at me like I was a serial killer. He said >that when there's not an infection there's no need for it, but there clearly >was an infection and it wouldn't go away without some antibiotics. So I took >the prescription, drove home, and now I'm asking you guys what you think! Now >that most of the pressure is relieved by that puss draining, my son is in >virtually no pain, we just put a bandaid on it. My gut is telling me antibiotics >are silly for this minor infection, but just wanted to get your thoughts. > >Also, what is the consensus on neosporin? The dr. mentioned using that too, >but isn't that just like an antibiotic cream, same effect as an antibiotic? > >Thanks, > It isn't something I would use. Anything including neosporin Calendula ointment/cream works very well on such things Why kill a fly with an atomic bomb Sheri > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 At 11:28 AM 3/6/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hi there, > >I would keep it draining as much as possible, squeeze the area to 'milk' >the pus and so on out gently. Soak in warm salt water and apply tea tree >oil a few times a day, increase the vitamin C, garlic too. Peroxide is >good, but it kills all cells, including those that are trying to grow - a >vet told me to flush my dog's wound with peroxide and it made it spread >further. You have to let it heal from the inside out, so make sure it >drains and doesn't heal over for a few days until the swelling etc. is gone >for 24 hours or so. > >Tell your son that it's better to not chew his fingernails... > >Lana I would suggest that tea tree oil is suppressive. Just allow it to healt. Don't need to kill germs. Sheri >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 You can also put the finger in warm very salty water and the stuff should drain out. I did this once with a badly infected finger and the pus came out in long ribbons with immediate relief from the pain. Re: OT- antibiotics > Hi there, > > I would keep it draining as much as possible, squeeze the area to 'milk' > the pus and so on out gently. Soak in warm salt water and apply tea tree > oil a few times a day, increase the vitamin C, garlic too. Peroxide is > good, but it kills all cells, including those that are trying to grow - a > vet told me to flush my dog's wound with peroxide and it made it spread > further. You have to let it heal from the inside out, so make sure it > drains and doesn't heal over for a few days until the swelling etc. is > gone > for 24 hours or so. > > Tell your son that it's better to not chew his fingernails... > > Lana > > > > At 10:11 AM 3/7/2006, you wrote: >>Just got back from the dr. with my 5 yr old son. Apparently he has some >>sort >>of infection in his thumb. He bites his nails and the skin on the end of >>his >>fingertips, so I assume that is how this all started. Last night it was >>kind >>of a white line around the top of his cuticle and he was comlaining that >>it >>hurt. So I soaked it in peroxide and left it open to the air last night. >>He >>woke up about 12:30 and cried for nearly an hour about how much it >>hurt. When >>we got up this morning, I could see why. The white, pussy, area was at >>least >>twice the size it was last night and the rest of his thumb was red and >>puffy. >>It looked like there was a whole lot of pressure on it. So I made an appt >>and when we got there and were waiting, he kind of starting pushing on it >>and it >>broke open enough for him to start pushing some of the puss out of there. >>Then the doctor came in and poured betadine all over it and pushed >>relentlessly >>on it until my son was in tears (gotta love the compassion there). Then >>he >>said to soak it in warm water and gave us a prescription for an >>antibiotic, >>looks like Augmentin. I told him I probably wouldn't use the antibiotic >>and just >>let it run its course and he looked at me like I was a serial killer. He >>said >>that when there's not an infection there's no need for it, but there >>clearly >>was an infection and it wouldn't go away without some antibiotics. So I >>took >>the prescription, drove home, and now I'm asking you guys what you >>think! Now >>that most of the pressure is relieved by that puss draining, my son is in >>virtually no pain, we just put a bandaid on it. My gut is telling me >>antibiotics >>are silly for this minor infection, but just wanted to get your thoughts. >> >>Also, what is the consensus on neosporin? The dr. mentioned using that >>too, >>but isn't that just like an antibiotic cream, same effect as an >>antibiotic? >> >>Thanks, >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 We let an infection on my daughter's arm go a very long time. I soaked it in Epsom salts, applied calendula compresses, raw honey, you name it. Finally it started getting a lot of heat in it and a ring around the area and the whole elbow was painful to the touch. When I finally took her in our doctor said that most of the time these things take care of themselves but for some reason hers was not. (It went on for about two weeks.) I ended up putting her on the abx mostly because I was afraid of it going into the joint AND because I had tried natural things to no avail. I did not have a homeopath at the time. But my other daughter has had cuticle infections from chewing her nails and they DID go away with salt water, raw honey and calendula. I think if it looks like it's getting better then why bother with the abx? Sheri B. JULIE GRIFFITHS <moppett1@...> wrote: You can also put the finger in warm very salty water and the stuff should drain out. I did this once with a badly infected finger and the pus came out in long ribbons with immediate relief from the pain. Re: OT- antibiotics > Hi there, > > I would keep it draining as much as possible, squeeze the area to 'milk' > the pus and so on out gently. Soak in warm salt water and apply tea tree > oil a few times a day, increase the vitamin C, garlic too. Peroxide is > good, but it kills all cells, including those that are trying to grow - a > vet told me to flush my dog's wound with peroxide and it made it spread > further. You have to let it heal from the inside out, so make sure it > drains and doesn't heal over for a few days until the swelling etc. is > gone > for 24 hours or so. > > Tell your son that it's better to not chew his fingernails... > > Lana > > > > At 10:11 AM 3/7/2006, you wrote: >>Just got back from the dr. with my 5 yr old son. Apparently he has some >>sort >>of infection in his thumb. He bites his nails and the skin on the end of >>his >>fingertips, so I assume that is how this all started. Last night it was >>kind >>of a white line around the top of his cuticle and he was comlaining that >>it >>hurt. So I soaked it in peroxide and left it open to the air last night. >>He >>woke up about 12:30 and cried for nearly an hour about how much it >>hurt. When >>we got up this morning, I could see why. The white, pussy, area was at >>least >>twice the size it was last night and the rest of his thumb was red and >>puffy. >>It looked like there was a whole lot of pressure on it. So I made an appt >>and when we got there and were waiting, he kind of starting pushing on it >>and it >>broke open enough for him to start pushing some of the puss out of there. >>Then the doctor came in and poured betadine all over it and pushed >>relentlessly >>on it until my son was in tears (gotta love the compassion there). Then >>he >>said to soak it in warm water and gave us a prescription for an >>antibiotic, >>looks like Augmentin. I told him I probably wouldn't use the antibiotic >>and just >>let it run its course and he looked at me like I was a serial killer. He >>said >>that when there's not an infection there's no need for it, but there >>clearly >>was an infection and it wouldn't go away without some antibiotics. So I >>took >>the prescription, drove home, and now I'm asking you guys what you >>think! Now >>that most of the pressure is relieved by that puss draining, my son is in >>virtually no pain, we just put a bandaid on it. My gut is telling me >>antibiotics >>are silly for this minor infection, but just wanted to get your thoughts. >> >>Also, what is the consensus on neosporin? The dr. mentioned using that >>too, >>but isn't that just like an antibiotic cream, same effect as an >>antibiotic? >> >>Thanks, >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Good point about smiling sweetly. Take whatever prescriptions they give you and nod a lot unless you have a doc that you really can confide in. They don't have to know that you didn't fill the scripts. Sheri B. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yep, and then you will have a record of getting your children medical treatment, just in case..... We feel comfortable with our doctor, the only ones that we have had problems with have been emergency room doctors. -- Sara Proud Mama to Colin 12/07/99 Jack 8/07/02 -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> Good point about smiling sweetly. Take whatever prescriptions they give you and nod a lot unless you have a doc that you really can confide in. They don't have to know that you didn't fill the scripts. Sheri B. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 ive done this before. > > Good point about smiling sweetly. Take whatever prescriptions they give you and nod a lot unless you have a doc that you really can confide in. They don't have to know that you didn't fill the scripts. > Sheri B. > > > --------------------------------- > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Our insurance company, at the end of the year, sends a statement that lists all prescriptions filled. I remember thinking that this could be used against me if it was looked at during an investigation of me and my husband due to a possible problem with our children's health and healthcare. It's not a real concern for us, just a thought because I know stranger things have happened to folks like me. So while it may appease the doctor, we may not be protected under certain unpleasant circumstances; though I tacitly agree with a lot of things in life to avoid confrontation I just don't have the energy for. Anita SaraShaughnessy@... wrote: Yep, and then you will have a record of getting your children medical treatment, just in case..... We feel comfortable with our doctor, the only ones that we have had problems with have been emergency room doctors. --------------------------------- Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 In a message dated 3/8/06 11:22:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, SaraShaughnessy@... writes: > That is great, about the doctor, not Cassius' head! What hospital was it? > > -- > Sara Lapeer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 , You lucked out! Hope Cassius is on the mend. About the honey: store bought honey is WORTHLESS. It's sugar water. It's been heated to levels that kill off most anything beneficial, so don't waste your money. If you can go to a local farmer's market and get some raw honey, that would be your best bet. It is advised that children under 18 months not ingest honey. My youngest was about a year old and has been fine. There is also an amazing honey from New Zealand that Sheri N. has turned me on to called Manuka Honey. You can Google it and find out about its healing properties. I've seen good results with that as well. Be warned: it's super expensive. Sheri B. addodson@... wrote: In a message dated 3/7/06 5:24:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, SaraShaughnessy@... writes: > Yep, and then you will have a record of getting your children medical > treatment, just in case..... > > We feel comfortable with our doctor, the only ones that we have had problems > with have been emergency room doctors. > > -- > Sara Thanks to everyone about the great advice on this. About the honey, can I just put store bought honey on it or will that not do the trick? Sara - I made a trip to the ER last night when Cassius split his head open. He tripped and fell into our dogs raised food dish. It was pretty deep and right on his head, so off we went. The dr. asked if he was up to date on immunizations and his tetanus and I said, " We don't vaccinate. " All he said was, " No problem, that's fine. " Later he asked if we homeschooled or if we had trouble enrolling our oldest in school with not vaccinating, so I enlightened him on the exemptions Michigan has available and he seemed genuinely interested. What a great experience!!! (By the way, no tetanus for Cassius ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Hi Sheri, That honey sounds interesting, but wouldn't you be giving up the benefits of avoiding allergies by using local honey. I quess you could use both. I'm currently looking for a local bee-tender. I'm all out and have always bought raw honey from out of town. I didn't know about the benefits of using local honey until recently; I think from this group. Anita " Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote: , You lucked out! Hope Cassius is on the mend. About the honey: store bought honey is WORTHLESS. It's sugar water. It's been heated to levels that kill off most anything beneficial, so don't waste your money. If you can go to a local farmer's market and get some raw honey, that would be your best bet. It is advised that children under 18 months not ingest honey. My youngest was about a year old and has been fine. There is also an amazing honey from New Zealand that Sheri N. has turned me on to called Manuka Honey. You can Google it and find out about its healing properties. I've seen good results with that as well. Be warned: it's super expensive. Sheri B. --------------------------------- Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Oh, I LOVE raw honey! It tastes so much better than the junk they sell in the stores. I have a local source and it is delicious! -- Sara Proud Mama to Colin 12/07/99 Jack 8/07/02 -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> , You lucked out! Hope Cassius is on the mend. About the honey: store bought honey is WORTHLESS. It's sugar water. It's been heated to levels that kill off most anything beneficial, so don't waste your money. If you can go to a local farmer's market and get some raw honey, that would be your best bet. It is advised that children under 18 months not ingest honey. My youngest was about a year old and has been fine. There is also an amazing honey from New Zealand that Sheri N. has turned me on to called Manuka Honey. You can Google it and find out about its healing properties. I've seen good results with that as well. Be warned: it's super expensive. Sheri B. addodson@... wrote: In a message dated 3/7/06 5:24:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, SaraShaughnessy@... writes: > Yep, and then you will have a record of getting your children medical > treatment, just in case..... > > We feel comfortable with our doctor, the only ones that we have had problems > with have been emergency room doctors. > > -- > Sara Thanks to everyone about the great advice on this. About the honey, can I just put store bought honey on it or will that not do the trick? Sara - I made a trip to the ER last night when Cassius split his head open. He tripped and fell into our dogs raised food dish. It was pretty deep and right on his head, so off we went. The dr. asked if he was up to date on immunizations and his tetanus and I said, " We don't vaccinate. " All he said was, " No problem, that's fine. " Later he asked if we homeschooled or if we had trouble enrolling our oldest in school with not vaccinating, so I enlightened him on the exemptions Michigan has available and he seemed genuinely interested. What a great experience!!! (By the way, no tetanus for Cassius ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 That is great, about the doctor, not Cassius' head! What hospital was it? -- Sara Proud Mama to Colin 12/07/99 Jack 8/07/02 -------------- Original message -------------- From: addodson@... In a message dated 3/7/06 5:24:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, SaraShaughnessy@... writes: > Yep, and then you will have a record of getting your children medical > treatment, just in case..... > > We feel comfortable with our doctor, the only ones that we have had problems > with have been emergency room doctors. > > -- > Sara Thanks to everyone about the great advice on this. About the honey, can I just put store bought honey on it or will that not do the trick? Sara - I made a trip to the ER last night when Cassius split his head open. He tripped and fell into our dogs raised food dish. It was pretty deep and right on his head, so off we went. The dr. asked if he was up to date on immunizations and his tetanus and I said, " We don't vaccinate. " All he said was, " No problem, that's fine. " Later he asked if we homeschooled or if we had trouble enrolling our oldest in school with not vaccinating, so I enlightened him on the exemptions Michigan has available and he seemed genuinely interested. What a great experience!!! (By the way, no tetanus for Cassius ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Anita, Yes, the local honey does seem to help people with allergies due to pollens. This Manuka honey is only found in New Zealand and in a small area where the Manuka bush grows. I'm attaching some links about what they've discovered. Even some mainstream hospitals in the UK are using it for burns and severe bacterial infections. See what you think! Hugs, Sheri B. http://www.manukahoney.co.uk/news.html --------------------------------- Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 At 06:55 AM 3/8/2006 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Sheri, > That honey sounds interesting, but wouldn't you be giving up the benefits of avoiding allergies by using local honey. I quess you could use both. I'm currently looking for a local bee-tender. I'm all out and have always bought raw honey from out of town. I didn't know about the benefits of using local honey until recently; I think from this group. > Anita Its special honey for some reason and is used topically for healing and internally for healing. Manuka Honey Sheri > > " Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote: > , > > You lucked out! Hope Cassius is on the mend. > > About the honey: store bought honey is WORTHLESS. It's sugar water. It's been heated to levels that kill off most anything beneficial, so don't waste your money. > > If you can go to a local farmer's market and get some raw honey, that would be your best bet. It is advised that children under 18 months not ingest honey. My youngest was about a year old and has been fine. > > There is also an amazing honey from New Zealand that Sheri N. has turned me on to called Manuka Honey. You can Google it and find out about its healing properties. I've seen good results with that as well. Be warned: it's super expensive. > > Sheri B. >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Just catching up with the messages and thought I'd mention how wonderful manuka honey is. We've successfully treated skin infections with it a number of times (once even ending up at the doctors, the infection looked so bad, but she told us to keep using the honey because it was working well!). It works better than antibiotics and is also amazing on nasty burns and ulcers. You must get 'activa manuka honey' though. There is usually a rating on it eg. UMF 24+. Lucky us - we're in NZ so it is very easy to get hold of. Nicola Re: OT- antibiotics At 06:55 AM 3/8/2006 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Sheri, > That honey sounds interesting, but wouldn't you be giving up the benefits of avoiding allergies by using local honey. I quess you could use both. I'm currently looking for a local bee-tender. I'm all out and have always bought raw honey from out of town. I didn't know about the benefits of using local honey until recently; I think from this group. > Anita Its special honey for some reason and is used topically for healing and internally for healing. Manuka Honey Sheri > > " Sheri B. " <tallchick1966@...> wrote: > , > > You lucked out! Hope Cassius is on the mend. > > About the honey: store bought honey is WORTHLESS. It's sugar water. It's been heated to levels that kill off most anything beneficial, so don't waste your money. > > If you can go to a local farmer's market and get some raw honey, that would be your best bet. It is advised that children under 18 months not ingest honey. My youngest was about a year old and has been fine. > > There is also an amazing honey from New Zealand that Sheri N. has turned me on to called Manuka Honey. You can Google it and find out about its healing properties. I've seen good results with that as well. Be warned: it's super expensive. > > Sheri B. >> -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account earthmysteriestours@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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