Re: quitting smoking for surgery the other biased side

[Guest guest]

I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I would

be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school on

day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to this

argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Well Dan, during the prohibition era in the USA a lot of people made

a lot of money too but that didn't make it right either. Sure the US

economy has benefitted, in a sense, from the production and marketing

of tobacco but consider the costs that are usually left out of the

equation. The increased cost of health care due to extended and more

complex treatment necessary is borne (in Australia) by the tax payer.

Premature death robs the economy of productive human beings and

diverts valuable resources away from other important areas. My mother

spent 14 weeks, including 2 weeks in intensive care, in hospital

recovering from post operative complications and was in hospital

every winter for seven years for up to 4 weeks at a time because she

couldn't breathe. My brother-in-law spent 3 months in hospital. The

cost to my family (paid by the tax payers of Australia) - well over

$200,000. I have no doubt if the tobacco industry had been forced to

pay for their treatment it would have had a very big loss against

these two customers. The emotional cost my family suffered was

enormous too and you cannot put a dollar figure against the

suffering. The economic benefit argument does not hold up to close

scrutiny when the cost/benefits are properly considered.

You may think smoking is cool, you may think it shows an independance

of action but I urge you to visit an oncology (cancer) ward or

pulmonary (lung) function ward in a large hospital to see first hand

where smokers end up. It is not a pretty sight.

When I was your age I used to smoke and think it was cool too - until

I investigated the smoking related health problems for myself. When I

learnt about the amputations, emphysema, heart disease and all the

cancers caused by smoking I gave up immediately (aged 22) but

ironically I could not convince my mother to do likewise. When she

was my current age (60) she already had acute and severe emphysema

and my brother-in-law was already dead 6 years from multiple cancers

(dead at 54). My mother suffered bronchial pneumonia 4-5 times a year

for most of the time I could remember - all because of smoking and

often required multiple home visits from the doctor or

hospitalization. None of this is factored into the cost of a packet

of fags.

Don't think you are helping the economy by smoking. The only economy

being helped is that of the cigarette company and they don't give a

dam about you.

Good luck in your studies at school but please think about your

smoking.

Rod

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Well Dan, during the prohibition era in the USA a lot of people made

a lot of money too but that didn't make it right either. Sure the US

economy has benefitted, in a sense, from the production and marketing

of tobacco but consider the costs that are usually left out of the

equation. The increased cost of health care due to extended and more

complex treatment necessary is borne (in Australia) by the tax payer.

Premature death robs the economy of productive human beings and

diverts valuable resources away from other important areas. My mother

spent 14 weeks, including 2 weeks in intensive care, in hospital

recovering from post operative complications and was in hospital

every winter for seven years for up to 4 weeks at a time because she

couldn't breathe. My brother-in-law spent 3 months in hospital. The

cost to my family (paid by the tax payers of Australia) - well over

$200,000. I have no doubt if the tobacco industry had been forced to

pay for their treatment it would have had a very big loss against

these two customers. The emotional cost my family suffered was

enormous too and you cannot put a dollar figure against the

suffering. The economic benefit argument does not hold up to close

scrutiny when the cost/benefits are properly considered.

You may think smoking is cool, you may think it shows an independance

of action but I urge you to visit an oncology (cancer) ward or

pulmonary (lung) function ward in a large hospital to see first hand

where smokers end up. It is not a pretty sight.

When I was your age I used to smoke and think it was cool too - until

I investigated the smoking related health problems for myself. When I

learnt about the amputations, emphysema, heart disease and all the

cancers caused by smoking I gave up immediately (aged 22) but

ironically I could not convince my mother to do likewise. When she

was my current age (60) she already had acute and severe emphysema

and my brother-in-law was already dead 6 years from multiple cancers

(dead at 54). My mother suffered bronchial pneumonia 4-5 times a year

for most of the time I could remember - all because of smoking and

often required multiple home visits from the doctor or

hospitalization. None of this is factored into the cost of a packet

of fags.

Don't think you are helping the economy by smoking. The only economy

being helped is that of the cigarette company and they don't give a

dam about you.

Good luck in your studies at school but please think about your

smoking.

Rod

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Well Dan, during the prohibition era in the USA a lot of people made

a lot of money too but that didn't make it right either. Sure the US

economy has benefitted, in a sense, from the production and marketing

of tobacco but consider the costs that are usually left out of the

equation. The increased cost of health care due to extended and more

complex treatment necessary is borne (in Australia) by the tax payer.

Premature death robs the economy of productive human beings and

diverts valuable resources away from other important areas. My mother

spent 14 weeks, including 2 weeks in intensive care, in hospital

recovering from post operative complications and was in hospital

every winter for seven years for up to 4 weeks at a time because she

couldn't breathe. My brother-in-law spent 3 months in hospital. The

cost to my family (paid by the tax payers of Australia) - well over

$200,000. I have no doubt if the tobacco industry had been forced to

pay for their treatment it would have had a very big loss against

these two customers. The emotional cost my family suffered was

enormous too and you cannot put a dollar figure against the

suffering. The economic benefit argument does not hold up to close

scrutiny when the cost/benefits are properly considered.

You may think smoking is cool, you may think it shows an independance

of action but I urge you to visit an oncology (cancer) ward or

pulmonary (lung) function ward in a large hospital to see first hand

where smokers end up. It is not a pretty sight.

When I was your age I used to smoke and think it was cool too - until

I investigated the smoking related health problems for myself. When I

learnt about the amputations, emphysema, heart disease and all the

cancers caused by smoking I gave up immediately (aged 22) but

ironically I could not convince my mother to do likewise. When she

was my current age (60) she already had acute and severe emphysema

and my brother-in-law was already dead 6 years from multiple cancers

(dead at 54). My mother suffered bronchial pneumonia 4-5 times a year

for most of the time I could remember - all because of smoking and

often required multiple home visits from the doctor or

hospitalization. None of this is factored into the cost of a packet

of fags.

Don't think you are helping the economy by smoking. The only economy

being helped is that of the cigarette company and they don't give a

dam about you.

Good luck in your studies at school but please think about your

smoking.

Rod

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

I never did take in to consideration that all of the packs of

cigarettes that my father paid for that ultimately caused his death

when I was 9 years old, was actually boosting our economy!

Wow! I guess when you look at it that way. Every kid should have his

or hers parents killed by tobacco products just so we can support the

economy.......

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

I never did take in to consideration that all of the packs of

cigarettes that my father paid for that ultimately caused his death

when I was 9 years old, was actually boosting our economy!

Wow! I guess when you look at it that way. Every kid should have his

or hers parents killed by tobacco products just so we can support the

economy.......

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

I never did take in to consideration that all of the packs of

cigarettes that my father paid for that ultimately caused his death

when I was 9 years old, was actually boosting our economy!

Wow! I guess when you look at it that way. Every kid should have his

or hers parents killed by tobacco products just so we can support the

economy.......

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

First, I want to apologize to everyone on this site for this post, but I feel a

need to say this and I will leave the subject alone after this - promise.

Dan,

I don't mean to be so callous, but HOGWASH!! We kill off millions of people to

make money? That's what this is saying to me. Look at all the money that has

been and still is being spent on medicines and medical procedures, fires,

funerals of smokers and those who have contracted " second-hand smoke " , etc., and

such to help those who are " working for America " - more like " working to kill

off America " .

Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a tangent, but you must understand, I've seen

the damage that tobacco can do to people first hand and now I'm watching it

happen to my own family. This article says to me that it all boils down to $$$

vs. lives and the $$$ seem to be more important. Notice this article says

nothing about all the $$$ that have been and still is being spent because of all

the damage that has been caused by tobacco.

Please don't give me the " there-are-more-problems-in-America " spiel. I know

that tobacco is not the only problem in America, but this is what we're talking

about right now so please don't try to compare it to anything else.

Please, Dan, quit while you can - NOW!

Smooches

Re: quitting smoking for surgery the

other biased side

I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I would

be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school on

day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to this

argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

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[Guest guest]

- very well put.

Smooches

Re: quitting smoking for surgery the

other biased side

I never did take in to consideration that all of the packs of

cigarettes that my father paid for that ultimately caused his death

when I was 9 years old, was actually boosting our economy!

Wow! I guess when you look at it that way. Every kid should have his

or hers parents killed by tobacco products just so we can support the

economy.......

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Let me preface my forthcoming blunt remarks by saying that I am an ex-smoker, so

I

can sympathize with the difficulties in quitting. That said....

I'm afraid economics alone is not, to me, an acceptable argument for doing

something that hurts people.

Maybe the US wouldn't be what it is today economically without tobacco. It also

wouldn't be what it is today if there hadn't been slavery.

Good economically does not necesssarily mean GOOD. And America's tobacco

companies are marketing their products overseas to poorer, less educated

populations that don't have the resources you do to make a smart choice. You

can

say that here in the US you are warned everywhere about the dangers of smoking,

but

that is not true in parts of Asia, South America and Africa. So I don't think

it's worth

it for America to boost our economy while we are addicting and killing people in

other parts of the world.

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Let me preface my forthcoming blunt remarks by saying that I am an ex-smoker, so

I

can sympathize with the difficulties in quitting. That said....

I'm afraid economics alone is not, to me, an acceptable argument for doing

something that hurts people.

Maybe the US wouldn't be what it is today economically without tobacco. It also

wouldn't be what it is today if there hadn't been slavery.

Good economically does not necesssarily mean GOOD. And America's tobacco

companies are marketing their products overseas to poorer, less educated

populations that don't have the resources you do to make a smart choice. You

can

say that here in the US you are warned everywhere about the dangers of smoking,

but

that is not true in parts of Asia, South America and Africa. So I don't think

it's worth

it for America to boost our economy while we are addicting and killing people in

other parts of the world.

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Let me preface my forthcoming blunt remarks by saying that I am an ex-smoker, so

I

can sympathize with the difficulties in quitting. That said....

I'm afraid economics alone is not, to me, an acceptable argument for doing

something that hurts people.

Maybe the US wouldn't be what it is today economically without tobacco. It also

wouldn't be what it is today if there hadn't been slavery.

Good economically does not necesssarily mean GOOD. And America's tobacco

companies are marketing their products overseas to poorer, less educated

populations that don't have the resources you do to make a smart choice. You

can

say that here in the US you are warned everywhere about the dangers of smoking,

but

that is not true in parts of Asia, South America and Africa. So I don't think

it's worth

it for America to boost our economy while we are addicting and killing people in

other parts of the world.

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

A very valid and powerful point. On the negative economic side health

costs for treating those who die from smoking induced disease is

conservatively $2.5billion a yearin the US and this is not counting

the costs of increased illnesses due to smoking and lost commercial

activity due to increased absenteeism from work.

> > I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> > understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to

make

> > people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

> >

> > http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

> >

> > Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> > be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to

school on

> > day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> > argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is

likley

> > that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to

think

> > about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Here's some " truthful advertising " from my parents' generation, no

wonder they were enticed to start smoking if you check out some of

these magazine ads.

From the 1950s

Medical professionals are on your side ....

" A responsible consulting organization reports a study by a competent

medical specialist and staff on the effects of smoking " :

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/chesterfield1.html

Buying by the carton will really help keep your smoking moderate .....

" ... the filter that gives you high filtration to help you keep your

smoking moderate... If you really like to smoke a lot, why not make

the change to Kent, today? And why not start with a carton? " :

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/kent1.html

From the 1940s

Eminent doctors findings ...

" Take this to heart! When you inhale - and all smokers do, some of

the time - there's increased chance of irritation. So, be guided by

the findings of eminent doctors. They discovered: on comparing - the

irritant quality in the smoke of the four other leading brands was

found to average more than three times that of the strikingly

contrasted Philip ... and the irritation lasts more than five

times as long! "

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/phillipmorris2_40.html

You can smoke all you want if you just find that right cigarette ...

Here's how to smoke all you want- If you really enjoy smoking, yet

feel you smoke too much, you don't have to cut down and deprive

yourself of smoking pleasure! Follow the lead of thousands of others -

switch to new Julep Cigarettes. Smoke all you want without

unpleasant symptoms of oversmoking! A smoking miracle? Yes, it's the

triple miracle of mint. (1) Your mouth doesn't get smoke-weary! (2)

Your throat doesn't get that harsh, hacking feeling! (3) Your breath

avoids tobacco-taint! Get Juleps today - get more joy out of smoking!

1. No 'stale-tasting' mouth: New miracle mint in Juleps freshens the

mouth at every puff. Even if you chain-smoke, your mouth feels clean,

sparkling all day long.

2. No raw 'burned-out' throat: Miracle mint stays in the smoke of

Juleps, refreshes the throat. No " dry-as-dust " rawness, even if you

smoke 20-40-60 Juleps a day.

3. No heavy 'tobacco-breath': Unpleasant tobacco-breath is a common

form of halitosis. But... the hint of mint in Juleps lingers, leaves

your breath pleasant and inviting. "

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/julep1_40.html

[Guest guest]

Here's some " truthful advertising " from my parents' generation, no

wonder they were enticed to start smoking if you check out some of

these magazine ads.

From the 1950s

Medical professionals are on your side ....

" A responsible consulting organization reports a study by a competent

medical specialist and staff on the effects of smoking " :

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/chesterfield1.html

Buying by the carton will really help keep your smoking moderate .....

" ... the filter that gives you high filtration to help you keep your

smoking moderate... If you really like to smoke a lot, why not make

the change to Kent, today? And why not start with a carton? " :

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/kent1.html

From the 1940s

Eminent doctors findings ...

" Take this to heart! When you inhale - and all smokers do, some of

the time - there's increased chance of irritation. So, be guided by

the findings of eminent doctors. They discovered: on comparing - the

irritant quality in the smoke of the four other leading brands was

found to average more than three times that of the strikingly

contrasted Philip ... and the irritation lasts more than five

times as long! "

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/phillipmorris2_40.html

You can smoke all you want if you just find that right cigarette ...

Here's how to smoke all you want- If you really enjoy smoking, yet

feel you smoke too much, you don't have to cut down and deprive

yourself of smoking pleasure! Follow the lead of thousands of others -

switch to new Julep Cigarettes. Smoke all you want without

unpleasant symptoms of oversmoking! A smoking miracle? Yes, it's the

triple miracle of mint. (1) Your mouth doesn't get smoke-weary! (2)

Your throat doesn't get that harsh, hacking feeling! (3) Your breath

avoids tobacco-taint! Get Juleps today - get more joy out of smoking!

1. No 'stale-tasting' mouth: New miracle mint in Juleps freshens the

mouth at every puff. Even if you chain-smoke, your mouth feels clean,

sparkling all day long.

2. No raw 'burned-out' throat: Miracle mint stays in the smoke of

Juleps, refreshes the throat. No " dry-as-dust " rawness, even if you

smoke 20-40-60 Juleps a day.

3. No heavy 'tobacco-breath': Unpleasant tobacco-breath is a common

form of halitosis. But... the hint of mint in Juleps lingers, leaves

your breath pleasant and inviting. "

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/julep1_40.html

[Guest guest]

Here's some " truthful advertising " from my parents' generation, no

wonder they were enticed to start smoking if you check out some of

these magazine ads.

From the 1950s

Medical professionals are on your side ....

" A responsible consulting organization reports a study by a competent

medical specialist and staff on the effects of smoking " :

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/chesterfield1.html

Buying by the carton will really help keep your smoking moderate .....

" ... the filter that gives you high filtration to help you keep your

smoking moderate... If you really like to smoke a lot, why not make

the change to Kent, today? And why not start with a carton? " :

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/kent1.html

From the 1940s

Eminent doctors findings ...

" Take this to heart! When you inhale - and all smokers do, some of

the time - there's increased chance of irritation. So, be guided by

the findings of eminent doctors. They discovered: on comparing - the

irritant quality in the smoke of the four other leading brands was

found to average more than three times that of the strikingly

contrasted Philip ... and the irritation lasts more than five

times as long! "

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/phillipmorris2_40.html

You can smoke all you want if you just find that right cigarette ...

Here's how to smoke all you want- If you really enjoy smoking, yet

feel you smoke too much, you don't have to cut down and deprive

yourself of smoking pleasure! Follow the lead of thousands of others -

switch to new Julep Cigarettes. Smoke all you want without

unpleasant symptoms of oversmoking! A smoking miracle? Yes, it's the

triple miracle of mint. (1) Your mouth doesn't get smoke-weary! (2)

Your throat doesn't get that harsh, hacking feeling! (3) Your breath

avoids tobacco-taint! Get Juleps today - get more joy out of smoking!

1. No 'stale-tasting' mouth: New miracle mint in Juleps freshens the

mouth at every puff. Even if you chain-smoke, your mouth feels clean,

sparkling all day long.

2. No raw 'burned-out' throat: Miracle mint stays in the smoke of

Juleps, refreshes the throat. No " dry-as-dust " rawness, even if you

smoke 20-40-60 Juleps a day.

3. No heavy 'tobacco-breath': Unpleasant tobacco-breath is a common

form of halitosis. But... the hint of mint in Juleps lingers, leaves

your breath pleasant and inviting. "

http://www.chickenhead.com/truth/julep1_40.html

[Guest guest]

and boy, oh boy, I really want to kiss somebody who's had 60

cigarettes ... NOT!

~~No " dry-as-dust " rawness, even if you smoke 20-40-60 Juleps a day.

No heavy 'tobacco-breath': Unpleasant tobacco-breath is a common form

of halitosis. But... the hint of mint in Juleps lingers, leaves your

breath pleasant and inviting.~~

[Guest guest]

and boy, oh boy, I really want to kiss somebody who's had 60

cigarettes ... NOT!

~~No " dry-as-dust " rawness, even if you smoke 20-40-60 Juleps a day.

No heavy 'tobacco-breath': Unpleasant tobacco-breath is a common form

of halitosis. But... the hint of mint in Juleps lingers, leaves your

breath pleasant and inviting.~~

[Guest guest]

Dan

Have a look at this web site and the associated links at the bottom

of the page. I hope it gets you thinking.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Smoking

_and_heart_disease_the_facts?OpenDocument

BTW 19000 Australians die each year from smoking induced disease and

this equates to around 250,000 Americans - the equivalent of a small

city. Sobering statistic is it not?

Rod

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Dan

Have a look at this web site and the associated links at the bottom

of the page. I hope it gets you thinking.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Smoking

_and_heart_disease_the_facts?OpenDocument

BTW 19000 Australians die each year from smoking induced disease and

this equates to around 250,000 Americans - the equivalent of a small

city. Sobering statistic is it not?

Rod

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.

[Guest guest]

Dan

Have a look at this web site and the associated links at the bottom

of the page. I hope it gets you thinking.

http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Smoking

_and_heart_disease_the_facts?OpenDocument

BTW 19000 Australians die each year from smoking induced disease and

this equates to around 250,000 Americans - the equivalent of a small

city. Sobering statistic is it not?

Rod

> I understand what everyone has said and I take it to heart. I

> understand what is being explained. But rather then trying to make

> people aware through my own words ill link everyone to a site.

>

> http://fujipub.com/fot/working.html

>

> Took me a few minutes to find on google, but it supports what I

would

> be talking about. It's geting late and I have to return to school

on

> day 10 post op. My only goal here is to show the other sides to

this

> argument. Basicly saying without this 'horrible' crop it is likley

> that America wouldn't even be here today. Just something to think

> about. Being a smoker I had to have my input. Good night.