Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hi everyone - as Steve said, definitely go with Genioplasty if lower jaw is pushed back alot. I had upper/lower and genioplasty last March and now I'm not happy with how far my chin has been pushed out. It took a few months to see how far my chin was pushed forward. I'm now looking into getting my nose (and ears) tweaked and my chin has to be pushed back because it is too far out. One plastic surgeon told me that oral surgeons obviously focus on the area under your nose and don't really look at the total picture. Good luck to you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hi everyone - as Steve said, definitely go with Genioplasty if lower jaw is pushed back alot. I had upper/lower and genioplasty last March and now I'm not happy with how far my chin has been pushed out. It took a few months to see how far my chin was pushed forward. I'm now looking into getting my nose (and ears) tweaked and my chin has to be pushed back because it is too far out. One plastic surgeon told me that oral surgeons obviously focus on the area under your nose and don't really look at the total picture. Good luck to you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2004 Report Share Posted February 1, 2004 Hi everyone - as Steve said, definitely go with Genioplasty if lower jaw is pushed back alot. I had upper/lower and genioplasty last March and now I'm not happy with how far my chin has been pushed out. It took a few months to see how far my chin was pushed forward. I'm now looking into getting my nose (and ears) tweaked and my chin has to be pushed back because it is too far out. One plastic surgeon told me that oral surgeons obviously focus on the area under your nose and don't really look at the total picture. Good luck to you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I didn't have genio, and don't encourage people who want it for " aesthetic " reasons to seek coverage on medical grounds. That said, I can remember one woman who suffered from sleep apnea and, I think, won coverage on the grounds that the genio would help the repairs to end the apnea. but I think if you don't have apnea you should not pursue this line. Some folks do not realize, however, that they have it until they have a sleep study. If you do have sleep troubles, they may improve markedly after surgery. And it might be worth investigating for you. I do not, however, wish to lead you or anyone else to pursue fraud, which lying to your insurance company about your reasons would indeed be. That's a criminal offense, prosecutable under law, and not a decent thing to do. It may be that you just need to bite the bullet, be grateful if your insurance will cover the repair of your misaligned jaws, and come up with the extra money for the genio yourself. It also occurs to me that these judgments sometimes change along the path to surgery, to the point that some patients have even left it up to their surgeons to decide, in the or, whether or not to do the genio. Cammie And no, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't work for an insurance company. > Has anyone had success in getting insurance to cover a genioplasty, as > part of an upper and lower jaw surgery? The open bite needs to be > closed, and unless my chin is moved forward, I won't get any real > aesthetic results of having everything realigned. My doc at first said > it wouldn't be necessary, then changed his mind and said it would. > > I have Cigna PPO, by the way. > > --Amelia Franz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I didn't have genio, and don't encourage people who want it for " aesthetic " reasons to seek coverage on medical grounds. That said, I can remember one woman who suffered from sleep apnea and, I think, won coverage on the grounds that the genio would help the repairs to end the apnea. but I think if you don't have apnea you should not pursue this line. Some folks do not realize, however, that they have it until they have a sleep study. If you do have sleep troubles, they may improve markedly after surgery. And it might be worth investigating for you. I do not, however, wish to lead you or anyone else to pursue fraud, which lying to your insurance company about your reasons would indeed be. That's a criminal offense, prosecutable under law, and not a decent thing to do. It may be that you just need to bite the bullet, be grateful if your insurance will cover the repair of your misaligned jaws, and come up with the extra money for the genio yourself. It also occurs to me that these judgments sometimes change along the path to surgery, to the point that some patients have even left it up to their surgeons to decide, in the or, whether or not to do the genio. Cammie And no, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't work for an insurance company. > Has anyone had success in getting insurance to cover a genioplasty, as > part of an upper and lower jaw surgery? The open bite needs to be > closed, and unless my chin is moved forward, I won't get any real > aesthetic results of having everything realigned. My doc at first said > it wouldn't be necessary, then changed his mind and said it would. > > I have Cigna PPO, by the way. > > --Amelia Franz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I didn't have genio, and don't encourage people who want it for " aesthetic " reasons to seek coverage on medical grounds. That said, I can remember one woman who suffered from sleep apnea and, I think, won coverage on the grounds that the genio would help the repairs to end the apnea. but I think if you don't have apnea you should not pursue this line. Some folks do not realize, however, that they have it until they have a sleep study. If you do have sleep troubles, they may improve markedly after surgery. And it might be worth investigating for you. I do not, however, wish to lead you or anyone else to pursue fraud, which lying to your insurance company about your reasons would indeed be. That's a criminal offense, prosecutable under law, and not a decent thing to do. It may be that you just need to bite the bullet, be grateful if your insurance will cover the repair of your misaligned jaws, and come up with the extra money for the genio yourself. It also occurs to me that these judgments sometimes change along the path to surgery, to the point that some patients have even left it up to their surgeons to decide, in the or, whether or not to do the genio. Cammie And no, I'm not a lawyer, and I don't work for an insurance company. > Has anyone had success in getting insurance to cover a genioplasty, as > part of an upper and lower jaw surgery? The open bite needs to be > closed, and unless my chin is moved forward, I won't get any real > aesthetic results of having everything realigned. My doc at first said > it wouldn't be necessary, then changed his mind and said it would. > > I have Cigna PPO, by the way. > > --Amelia Franz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Thanks, Cammie, for your perspective. I was afraid that might be the case, that insurance wouldn't cover the genio. At first, my surgeon said upper and lower would correct the problem. Now, into braces and everything, hopefully within a couple months of surgery, he says genio will be necessary. I'm kind of surprised, because my lower jaw doesn't look THAT recessive, to me. But he's the boss. I'm pretty sure I don't have sleep apnea, so I can't pursue that route. But if I'm going through all this surgery to correct my open bite, I want everything that's wrong with my jaws/chin corrected. I don't see the point of doing it halfway, so if I have to pay, I will. Anyone else have success with getting genio paid for when done in conjunction with fixing an open bite? --Amelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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