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Hi All:

I've been reading this site since before my surgery Feb 5th. It's

been very helpful and has

had some great information.

I'm now 3 weeks post op - from having lower jaw surgery (it was moved

back 5mm), a

genioplasty and a necklift. It hasn't been the most horrible thing

in my life - but it has

definitely been worse than I thought it would be. I think part of

the reason is that I had so

many procedures done at the same time.

I had bands on until a few days ago - couldn't take them off - and

was on a liquid diet for

the first 2 1/2 weeks. I was so excited to get the bands off - but

it was the most surreal

experience to have the bands off and for my mouth not to know

how/where to close. I

definitely had the experience others have talked about of being

afraid my faw would fall

off and not wanting to either close or open my jaw. I can only open

about 1 finger's worth

for now. Truthfully it was scary and for a few hours I really wanted

them back on (can you

believe I said that?)

I'm still really swollen at the back inside of my mouth and my lips

are really swollen too

since my surgical wires are still on and the rub the inside of my

lips constantly. When I

bite down I have to make sure my cheeks are out of the way so I don't

chew on them.

My chin is completely numb but it feels like someone has rubbed a

jalapeno pepper all

over my bottom lip and chin and it burns - a lot. (My OS said that

is good news because it

is all of the nerves regenerating - good news or not it still hurts

like crazy).

I've been kind of bummed out and grumpy for the past week - I'm ready

to " get on with

life " but my mouth isn't cooperating. I still sound like I have a

mouth full of marbles

(because of the swelling) and I talk slowly. I have my own business

so it's tough to see

time just keep ticking and to just sit here and heal.

I also look " normal enough " from the outside so I think some people

think I feel better

than I actually do - much of the swelling is inside so they can't see

it from the outside.

I'm not normally a complainer and I have a huge tolerance for pain -

but this has been a

tough one for me. I think I'm getting sick of hearing myself talk

about my face/jaw/

cheeks/chin - but it's on my mind constantly because it hurts and

doesn't work right.

Anyway - it feels better to post this and get it off my chest. I'm

tired of talking about my

stuff w/those around me. I have a lot to be thankful for - my OS is

amazing and my fiance

has been amazing. But I'm still grumpy feel like " I'll never be back

to my old self again " .

Thanks for listening - any words of advice will be much appreciated.

Greta

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Hi Greta,

Your post reminded me of some of my post-op days too. It's ok to be

grumpy, I was told by some of my alternative therapies practitioners

to expect that. I told my husband to expect it too, that it was just

part of the healing process (I'll admit that it's a handy excuse at

times!).

My ortho told me that post-op, most people just want everything out

of their mouths! even though I urged him to take his time post-op.

I really had an easy recovery, no complaints other than the usual

(drooling, numbness, couldn't find my mouth without a mirror,

cheekbites, the runs from the 1 week liquid diet, having to use a

whiteboard to communicate, etc).

I had some recurring swelling in my mouth at 6 weeks post-op (I took

5 weeks off work) that was mainly the result of too much talking

(which I tried to minimize, believe me!) and the stress of trying to

do a lot of overtime during a very hectic period with strict

reporting deadlines. At the end of the week, I actually started

feeling faint and trembling, so I packed up and went home and sacked

out for about 3 days. I had never had my body react like that before.

Going forward, I'd recommend taking it easy, don't push yourself too

hard, listen to your body. Resist the urge to be Superwoman (I've

already got the title, and it is of no use during surgery recovery,

believe me!)

Hang in there, this part of the journey takes a long time and

requires a tremendous amount of patience. Whine away whenever you

need to!

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Hi Greta,

Your post reminded me of some of my post-op days too. It's ok to be

grumpy, I was told by some of my alternative therapies practitioners

to expect that. I told my husband to expect it too, that it was just

part of the healing process (I'll admit that it's a handy excuse at

times!).

My ortho told me that post-op, most people just want everything out

of their mouths! even though I urged him to take his time post-op.

I really had an easy recovery, no complaints other than the usual

(drooling, numbness, couldn't find my mouth without a mirror,

cheekbites, the runs from the 1 week liquid diet, having to use a

whiteboard to communicate, etc).

I had some recurring swelling in my mouth at 6 weeks post-op (I took

5 weeks off work) that was mainly the result of too much talking

(which I tried to minimize, believe me!) and the stress of trying to

do a lot of overtime during a very hectic period with strict

reporting deadlines. At the end of the week, I actually started

feeling faint and trembling, so I packed up and went home and sacked

out for about 3 days. I had never had my body react like that before.

Going forward, I'd recommend taking it easy, don't push yourself too

hard, listen to your body. Resist the urge to be Superwoman (I've

already got the title, and it is of no use during surgery recovery,

believe me!)

Hang in there, this part of the journey takes a long time and

requires a tremendous amount of patience. Whine away whenever you

need to!

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Hey Grumpy Greta :)

Ok, everything you are feeling is totally normal, even after 3 weeks

postop. I've been there ... twice. I was on with life a bit faster

after Surgery 2, but I remember I did not even feel like

doing " normal " things until Week 3. It gets better faster after

this. Although this won't heal your pain, I just hope that some

words of comparison will help you get through this tough time. More

below:

> of being

> afraid my jaw would fall

> off and not wanting to either close or open my jaw. I can only

open

> about 1 finger's worth

> for now. Truthfully it was scary and for a few hours I really

wanted

> them back on (can you

> believe I said that?)

I totally believe that! I remember telling my surgeon after he

unbanded and unwired me the first time, " Don't leave go of my bottom

jaw!!! " He just laughed but I wouldn't move my hand from under my

chin, I was so afraid. Like someone else posted here once, it felt

like someone else's teeth were in my mouth and my jaw had little

control. Very foreign feeling and yes, the security of bands are a

comfort, surprisingly enough since we can't wait to get them out!

> I'm still really swollen at the back inside of my mouth and my lips

> are really swollen too

> since my surgical wires are still on and the rub the inside of my

> lips constantly. When I

> bite down I have to make sure my cheeks are out of the way so I

don't

> chew on them.

Although I can't remember for how long, I do remember that the most

lingering part of recovery for me (other than some numbness) was the

swelling inside behind and around the back molars and cheek biting.

It will gradually become less and less until one day you realize how

much room you have in your mouth and that you aren't biting your

cheeks anymore. It is normal what you are feeling now (but it

stinks!).

> I've been kind of bummed out and grumpy for the past week

Not grumpy! Just where you should be right now. You just undertook

a very major surgery and inside your mouth for goodness sake! You

should feel grumpy!

> I also look " normal enough " from the outside so I think some people

> think I feel better

> than I actually do - much of the swelling is inside so they can't

see

> it from the outside.

Ok, THIS I have to comment on. This was frustrating for me when I

was postop. Once you start looking better, folks assume you are all

better. No one who hasn't experienced this knows how long you can

feel " not back to normal " . You get tired faster, you have a limited

diet, you are expected to do life's stuff, dishes, cooking (yikes),

caring for the babies, laundry, while you are trying to ignore mouth

incisions, scratchy surgical wires/hooks, and facial numbness

combined with feelings like you have bugs crawling all over your

face! You can have the most supportive spouse/family but they just

don't realize once the swelling's down that you still have a long

way to go. Come here, as we understand.

> I'm not normally a complainer ...

And you aren't know. Just sharing frustrations ...

You won't believe it now, but this will be a fuzzy memory for you.

Hang in there.

Irish!

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You're welcome, Greta. Actually, I did a typo just now, and your name

came out as Great. Which is what I hope for your recovery going

forward!

> What a supportive and thoughtful email. Thank you so much

for

> taking the time to respond. Really!

>

> Greta

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You're welcome, Greta. Actually, I did a typo just now, and your name

came out as Great. Which is what I hope for your recovery going

forward!

> What a supportive and thoughtful email. Thank you so much

for

> taking the time to respond. Really!

>

> Greta

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Thanks Corinne for your really kind words. It's good to know what I'm

going through is " normal " . Good luck to you with your recovery - since

we're at about the same post op timeframe - we're kind of going through

this together I guess.

Best, Greta

----

> Hi Greta!

> When I read your email - I felt everything you're going through.

>

> I'm 2-weeks post-op and going through many of the same things...

> I was totally banded shut 24-hours a day for the first 5-days after

> surgery... and as excited as i was to breathe through my mouth again

> (I am a mouth breather,) I was scared when my OS showed me how to

> take them off and put them back on. I still worry when I leave them

> out too long - maybe my bite will go back? (I know it won't.) And I

> am starting to think about resuming my life again. I go back to a

> very stressful, detail oriented job in 2-weeks where not giving 110%

> is not acceptable. And I want to have something besides soup and

> pasta at restaurants!!!

>

> But I keep reminding myself to take it one day at a time - and this

> situation is only temporary. And there are so many understanding,

> supportive people on this site who understand!!!

>

> Keep your chin up (literally and figuratively)

> Corinne

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