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Hi,

I had your same, exact surgery (upper jaw and genio) August of 2002.

Expect: very little pain, significant congestion for about a week,

swelling, bruising, numbness which can last for a few months or even

longer.

How difficult or easy your individual recovery will be is dependent

on quite a few variables including: extent of surgeon's experience,

whether you are to be wired shut or banded/splinted,

nutritional/hydration status and whether you are physically fit or

not going in, age.

Sorry this is so brief but I am running to get the kids to school.

I'll post a more detailed response later if someone else doesn't beat

me to it! Keep reading old posts and ask any specific questions

which come up.

Cheryl

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Welcome to the group. I had upper segmentation and lower advancement

this past March. I second Cheryl's expectations. I didn't have any

congestion, but I would still expect it because many do have it. My

doc sent me home from the hospital with two bottles of Affrin that I

never needed.

It's pretty normal that you're getting more concerned about the

surgery as your date draws nearer. In my own experience, it was much

easier than I ever imagined it would be. I hope the same for you.

Best wishes!

> Hi,

>

>

> I had your same, exact surgery (upper jaw and genio) August of

2002.

> Expect: very little pain, significant congestion for about a week,

> swelling, bruising, numbness which can last for a few months or

even

> longer.

>

> How difficult or easy your individual recovery will be is dependent

> on quite a few variables including: extent of surgeon's experience,

> whether you are to be wired shut or banded/splinted,

> nutritional/hydration status and whether you are physically fit or

> not going in, age.

>

> Sorry this is so brief but I am running to get the kids to school.

> I'll post a more detailed response later if someone else doesn't

beat

> me to it! Keep reading old posts and ask any specific questions

> which come up.

>

> Cheryl

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--- Hi Aileen! Good luck with your surgery on Dec 17th, you'll be

fine. I also had upper jaw surgery on 1st Oct 2003 and feel that the

whole experience was worth it. You can check back on my posts by

typing in figfearon. Don't hesitate to email me directly if you need

a chat.

Take care, Annie

In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " aileen "

wrote:

> I just found this group and i can't tell you how excited i am. i'm

> scheduled for

> upper jaw surgery on december 17. i've been asking my oral surgeon

> for

> names of past patients i can talk to. they gave me the name of one

> girl that

> was 10 years younger than me and who had more extensive surgery, so

> i'm

> sure her experience won't be quite that same as mine. is there

anyone

> out

> there that had upper jaw surgery and also surgery to move their chin

> forward?

> i've been told what to expect by my doctor, but that's not the same

> as hearing

> it from someone that has been though it. i wasn't worried about his

> operation

> at all, but the quicker the day approaches, the more worrried i

> become. plus,

> not being able to partake in christmas dinner makes me sad :) but in

> the end i

> hope it's all worth it.

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--- Hi Aileen! Good luck with your surgery on Dec 17th, you'll be

fine. I also had upper jaw surgery on 1st Oct 2003 and feel that the

whole experience was worth it. You can check back on my posts by

typing in figfearon. Don't hesitate to email me directly if you need

a chat.

Take care, Annie

In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " aileen "

wrote:

> I just found this group and i can't tell you how excited i am. i'm

> scheduled for

> upper jaw surgery on december 17. i've been asking my oral surgeon

> for

> names of past patients i can talk to. they gave me the name of one

> girl that

> was 10 years younger than me and who had more extensive surgery, so

> i'm

> sure her experience won't be quite that same as mine. is there

anyone

> out

> there that had upper jaw surgery and also surgery to move their chin

> forward?

> i've been told what to expect by my doctor, but that's not the same

> as hearing

> it from someone that has been though it. i wasn't worried about his

> operation

> at all, but the quicker the day approaches, the more worrried i

> become. plus,

> not being able to partake in christmas dinner makes me sad :) but in

> the end i

> hope it's all worth it.

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  • 2 months later...

I'm having surgery late April as well, upper and lower, I never

really thought of it so graphically, but I guess that is what I am

having done to the upper. Sounds like we may be going through it at

the same time.

Marsha

> hey has anyone in here had the upper jaw surgery where they cut ur

> jaw basically off ur skull and then screw it back in with titanium

> screws and plates...could you give me some details if you dont

> mine.....my surgery date isnt till like april 21 but lol i like to

> kno more in advance from ppl that have had the same one as

> me...thanks

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I'm having surgery late April as well, upper and lower, I never

really thought of it so graphically, but I guess that is what I am

having done to the upper. Sounds like we may be going through it at

the same time.

Marsha

> hey has anyone in here had the upper jaw surgery where they cut ur

> jaw basically off ur skull and then screw it back in with titanium

> screws and plates...could you give me some details if you dont

> mine.....my surgery date isnt till like april 21 but lol i like to

> kno more in advance from ppl that have had the same one as

> me...thanks

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Hi,

I had upper jaw surgery last Friday and am still recovering so can't

give you a complete picture, but is there anything specific you're

wondering about? My palate was expanded so they've got a bite plate

in there behind my teeth to keep everything in place while the bone

mends. My mid-face is still a bit numb and more swollen than the

outer edges because I hadn't used ice packs there (and really wish I

had!). My mom says it looks like I've had botox injections from

about the middle of my face on down, and it's hard not being able to

smile for awhile.

The experience has, so far, actually been a little bit tougher than I

anticipated, but they say things get better after the first week so

I'm hanging in there!

Beth

> Hello all,

>

> has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> their experiences of this with me?

>

> thanks a lot

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Hi,

I had upper jaw surgery last Friday and am still recovering so can't

give you a complete picture, but is there anything specific you're

wondering about? My palate was expanded so they've got a bite plate

in there behind my teeth to keep everything in place while the bone

mends. My mid-face is still a bit numb and more swollen than the

outer edges because I hadn't used ice packs there (and really wish I

had!). My mom says it looks like I've had botox injections from

about the middle of my face on down, and it's hard not being able to

smile for awhile.

The experience has, so far, actually been a little bit tougher than I

anticipated, but they say things get better after the first week so

I'm hanging in there!

Beth

> Hello all,

>

> has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> their experiences of this with me?

>

> thanks a lot

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Hi,

I had upper jaw surgery last Friday and am still recovering so can't

give you a complete picture, but is there anything specific you're

wondering about? My palate was expanded so they've got a bite plate

in there behind my teeth to keep everything in place while the bone

mends. My mid-face is still a bit numb and more swollen than the

outer edges because I hadn't used ice packs there (and really wish I

had!). My mom says it looks like I've had botox injections from

about the middle of my face on down, and it's hard not being able to

smile for awhile.

The experience has, so far, actually been a little bit tougher than I

anticipated, but they say things get better after the first week so

I'm hanging in there!

Beth

> Hello all,

>

> has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> their experiences of this with me?

>

> thanks a lot

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As prepared as I was (from reading this board for over a year) I was

still surprised at how difficult upper jaw surgery is. I'm in the

thick of it (day 2) so maybe it is not the best time for me to answer.

But I bled a lot, which I thought wouldn't be an issue since I had a

naso-gastric tube to suck out any blood from my stomach). Also,

congestion is a major issue with upper. Last night I didn't sleep

much, but the Drs and nurses kept wheeling in the " pulseox " machine to

check my blood oxygen levels (always at 98-100%, so they weren't

concerned) but it took some patience, prayers, and relaxation

techniques to calm myself so I could breathe and sleep. So I don't

have much positive to say about orthognathic surgery today. But most

people say that, while they're recovering, they wish they hadn't done

it. (I was thinking this last night.) BUT after several days/weeks of

recovery almost everyone is glad they had it done. That's what kept me

going.

Eileen

> > Hello all,

> >

> > has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> > their experiences of this with me?

> >

> > thanks a lot

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As prepared as I was (from reading this board for over a year) I was

still surprised at how difficult upper jaw surgery is. I'm in the

thick of it (day 2) so maybe it is not the best time for me to answer.

But I bled a lot, which I thought wouldn't be an issue since I had a

naso-gastric tube to suck out any blood from my stomach). Also,

congestion is a major issue with upper. Last night I didn't sleep

much, but the Drs and nurses kept wheeling in the " pulseox " machine to

check my blood oxygen levels (always at 98-100%, so they weren't

concerned) but it took some patience, prayers, and relaxation

techniques to calm myself so I could breathe and sleep. So I don't

have much positive to say about orthognathic surgery today. But most

people say that, while they're recovering, they wish they hadn't done

it. (I was thinking this last night.) BUT after several days/weeks of

recovery almost everyone is glad they had it done. That's what kept me

going.

Eileen

> > Hello all,

> >

> > has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> > their experiences of this with me?

> >

> > thanks a lot

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As prepared as I was (from reading this board for over a year) I was

still surprised at how difficult upper jaw surgery is. I'm in the

thick of it (day 2) so maybe it is not the best time for me to answer.

But I bled a lot, which I thought wouldn't be an issue since I had a

naso-gastric tube to suck out any blood from my stomach). Also,

congestion is a major issue with upper. Last night I didn't sleep

much, but the Drs and nurses kept wheeling in the " pulseox " machine to

check my blood oxygen levels (always at 98-100%, so they weren't

concerned) but it took some patience, prayers, and relaxation

techniques to calm myself so I could breathe and sleep. So I don't

have much positive to say about orthognathic surgery today. But most

people say that, while they're recovering, they wish they hadn't done

it. (I was thinking this last night.) BUT after several days/weeks of

recovery almost everyone is glad they had it done. That's what kept me

going.

Eileen

> > Hello all,

> >

> > has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> > their experiences of this with me?

> >

> > thanks a lot

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Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I am

having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it would

be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can you

speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid diet

etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

> > Hello all,

> >

> > has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> > their experiences of this with me?

> >

> > thanks a lot

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Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I am

having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it would

be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can you

speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid diet

etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

> > Hello all,

> >

> > has anyone in the group just had upper jaw surgery and can share

> > their experiences of this with me?

> >

> > thanks a lot

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Well, I was in the hospital for one night and between my surgery and

my discharge the next morning my teeth were banded together. There

were no tubes anywhere in me when I woke up - just the little oxygen

prongs pointing into my nose. The surgeon removed my bands the next

morning so my jaw was totally free, which felt strange and a little

scary! I'm not sure all surgeons do that, though, and I think it's

pretty common to at least go home wearing elastics. It's been nice,

though, being able to open wide enough to get liquids and mushy stuff

in there.

I felt pretty crummy between the time I woke up from surgery

(gradually - I was groggy for hours) and about midnight that night

(my surgery was at 7:30 in the morning), but I didn't let them give

me any narcotic painkillers because I knew they'd just make me feel

worse, and that helped a lot after the anesthesia finally wore off

and I actually felt sort of " normal " again (as normal as one can feel

with a numb, swollen face). A lot of people throw up blood

afterward, but I didn't even though I could tell I was swallowing a

bunch of it. They gave me a cool little suction tool to remove the

drainage I could get to.

I was given Toradol for pain (I actually didn't have any pain the

hospital and it has been minimal at home as well, knock on wood), and

they also gave me an antibiotic and a steroid for the swelling. An

ice pack was kept on my jaw constantly both at the hospital and at

home for about 3 days afterward, and it was very effective against

the swelling. I hardly have any swelling now, EXCEPT where the ice

pack wasn't used around my nose, inner cheeks and upper lip! So use

that ice. I'm supposed to be using heat now on the remaining

swelling but it's nowhere near as soothing as the ice.

One thing that was difficult was being in the hospital and feeling

like it was hard to breathe because I was becoming swollen and my

nasal passages were also becoming congested, but it didn't last that

long and I got through it knowing that it was normal and that yes, I

really could breathe even though it was a little tougher than usual.

I experienced a good bit of congestion when I got home, too. A

humidifier in the room helps and so does pouring a sink full of hot

water and making a " tent " with a big towel so it's like a mini steam

spa. I was really amazed at how effective that was.

So, now I'm on Day 6 and feeling relatively decent, though it's still

kind of miserable having my face pretty much " frozen " like it is. I

was on a liquid diet for the first few days, and yesterday my surgeon

cleared me to eat soft things (though I don't think all surgeons will

approve a soft-chew diet that quickly), and I was overjoyed to be

able to gingerly eat a soft molasses cookie from Starbucks

yesterday. It's not easy to eat/drink/swallow, though, so I've felt

pretty weak and am trying to build my energy back up. Make sure you

get some of the Zip-n-Squeeze bags because they're a lot easier than

using a syringe to get liquid into your mouth. Boost, Ensure, broth,

etc. will help keep your energy up, and be sure to stay hydrated.

Oh! And bring a dry-erase board with you to the hospital so you can

communicate with the nurses and anyone who may be with you. I could

not speak understandably while banded at all, and I found it

indispensable. I can speak understandably now, but I have a retainer-

type thing behind my teeth (removable, thankfully) to keep my palate

in the right place while it heals (8-10 weeks), and it makes my

speech far less than clear. My mom stayed with me overnight in the

hospital, and it would have been much tougher without her there.

I'm fairly bothered by the fact that I'll need to retrain my facial

muscles to smile, but I know they'll come back little by little as I

work at it (once I'm not so worried about doing too much and

disrupting sutures and the like).

Good luck with your surgery, and best wishes for the best possible

results! This isn't the easiest thing to go through, but it's not

the worst either (though at times I do wonder if I'm crazy to have

paid someone several thousand dollars to do this to me, LOL).

Beth

> Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I

am

> having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it would

> be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

> right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can

you

> speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid

diet

> etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

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Well, I was in the hospital for one night and between my surgery and

my discharge the next morning my teeth were banded together. There

were no tubes anywhere in me when I woke up - just the little oxygen

prongs pointing into my nose. The surgeon removed my bands the next

morning so my jaw was totally free, which felt strange and a little

scary! I'm not sure all surgeons do that, though, and I think it's

pretty common to at least go home wearing elastics. It's been nice,

though, being able to open wide enough to get liquids and mushy stuff

in there.

I felt pretty crummy between the time I woke up from surgery

(gradually - I was groggy for hours) and about midnight that night

(my surgery was at 7:30 in the morning), but I didn't let them give

me any narcotic painkillers because I knew they'd just make me feel

worse, and that helped a lot after the anesthesia finally wore off

and I actually felt sort of " normal " again (as normal as one can feel

with a numb, swollen face). A lot of people throw up blood

afterward, but I didn't even though I could tell I was swallowing a

bunch of it. They gave me a cool little suction tool to remove the

drainage I could get to.

I was given Toradol for pain (I actually didn't have any pain the

hospital and it has been minimal at home as well, knock on wood), and

they also gave me an antibiotic and a steroid for the swelling. An

ice pack was kept on my jaw constantly both at the hospital and at

home for about 3 days afterward, and it was very effective against

the swelling. I hardly have any swelling now, EXCEPT where the ice

pack wasn't used around my nose, inner cheeks and upper lip! So use

that ice. I'm supposed to be using heat now on the remaining

swelling but it's nowhere near as soothing as the ice.

One thing that was difficult was being in the hospital and feeling

like it was hard to breathe because I was becoming swollen and my

nasal passages were also becoming congested, but it didn't last that

long and I got through it knowing that it was normal and that yes, I

really could breathe even though it was a little tougher than usual.

I experienced a good bit of congestion when I got home, too. A

humidifier in the room helps and so does pouring a sink full of hot

water and making a " tent " with a big towel so it's like a mini steam

spa. I was really amazed at how effective that was.

So, now I'm on Day 6 and feeling relatively decent, though it's still

kind of miserable having my face pretty much " frozen " like it is. I

was on a liquid diet for the first few days, and yesterday my surgeon

cleared me to eat soft things (though I don't think all surgeons will

approve a soft-chew diet that quickly), and I was overjoyed to be

able to gingerly eat a soft molasses cookie from Starbucks

yesterday. It's not easy to eat/drink/swallow, though, so I've felt

pretty weak and am trying to build my energy back up. Make sure you

get some of the Zip-n-Squeeze bags because they're a lot easier than

using a syringe to get liquid into your mouth. Boost, Ensure, broth,

etc. will help keep your energy up, and be sure to stay hydrated.

Oh! And bring a dry-erase board with you to the hospital so you can

communicate with the nurses and anyone who may be with you. I could

not speak understandably while banded at all, and I found it

indispensable. I can speak understandably now, but I have a retainer-

type thing behind my teeth (removable, thankfully) to keep my palate

in the right place while it heals (8-10 weeks), and it makes my

speech far less than clear. My mom stayed with me overnight in the

hospital, and it would have been much tougher without her there.

I'm fairly bothered by the fact that I'll need to retrain my facial

muscles to smile, but I know they'll come back little by little as I

work at it (once I'm not so worried about doing too much and

disrupting sutures and the like).

Good luck with your surgery, and best wishes for the best possible

results! This isn't the easiest thing to go through, but it's not

the worst either (though at times I do wonder if I'm crazy to have

paid someone several thousand dollars to do this to me, LOL).

Beth

> Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I

am

> having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it would

> be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

> right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can

you

> speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid

diet

> etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

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Well, I was in the hospital for one night and between my surgery and

my discharge the next morning my teeth were banded together. There

were no tubes anywhere in me when I woke up - just the little oxygen

prongs pointing into my nose. The surgeon removed my bands the next

morning so my jaw was totally free, which felt strange and a little

scary! I'm not sure all surgeons do that, though, and I think it's

pretty common to at least go home wearing elastics. It's been nice,

though, being able to open wide enough to get liquids and mushy stuff

in there.

I felt pretty crummy between the time I woke up from surgery

(gradually - I was groggy for hours) and about midnight that night

(my surgery was at 7:30 in the morning), but I didn't let them give

me any narcotic painkillers because I knew they'd just make me feel

worse, and that helped a lot after the anesthesia finally wore off

and I actually felt sort of " normal " again (as normal as one can feel

with a numb, swollen face). A lot of people throw up blood

afterward, but I didn't even though I could tell I was swallowing a

bunch of it. They gave me a cool little suction tool to remove the

drainage I could get to.

I was given Toradol for pain (I actually didn't have any pain the

hospital and it has been minimal at home as well, knock on wood), and

they also gave me an antibiotic and a steroid for the swelling. An

ice pack was kept on my jaw constantly both at the hospital and at

home for about 3 days afterward, and it was very effective against

the swelling. I hardly have any swelling now, EXCEPT where the ice

pack wasn't used around my nose, inner cheeks and upper lip! So use

that ice. I'm supposed to be using heat now on the remaining

swelling but it's nowhere near as soothing as the ice.

One thing that was difficult was being in the hospital and feeling

like it was hard to breathe because I was becoming swollen and my

nasal passages were also becoming congested, but it didn't last that

long and I got through it knowing that it was normal and that yes, I

really could breathe even though it was a little tougher than usual.

I experienced a good bit of congestion when I got home, too. A

humidifier in the room helps and so does pouring a sink full of hot

water and making a " tent " with a big towel so it's like a mini steam

spa. I was really amazed at how effective that was.

So, now I'm on Day 6 and feeling relatively decent, though it's still

kind of miserable having my face pretty much " frozen " like it is. I

was on a liquid diet for the first few days, and yesterday my surgeon

cleared me to eat soft things (though I don't think all surgeons will

approve a soft-chew diet that quickly), and I was overjoyed to be

able to gingerly eat a soft molasses cookie from Starbucks

yesterday. It's not easy to eat/drink/swallow, though, so I've felt

pretty weak and am trying to build my energy back up. Make sure you

get some of the Zip-n-Squeeze bags because they're a lot easier than

using a syringe to get liquid into your mouth. Boost, Ensure, broth,

etc. will help keep your energy up, and be sure to stay hydrated.

Oh! And bring a dry-erase board with you to the hospital so you can

communicate with the nurses and anyone who may be with you. I could

not speak understandably while banded at all, and I found it

indispensable. I can speak understandably now, but I have a retainer-

type thing behind my teeth (removable, thankfully) to keep my palate

in the right place while it heals (8-10 weeks), and it makes my

speech far less than clear. My mom stayed with me overnight in the

hospital, and it would have been much tougher without her there.

I'm fairly bothered by the fact that I'll need to retrain my facial

muscles to smile, but I know they'll come back little by little as I

work at it (once I'm not so worried about doing too much and

disrupting sutures and the like).

Good luck with your surgery, and best wishes for the best possible

results! This isn't the easiest thing to go through, but it's not

the worst either (though at times I do wonder if I'm crazy to have

paid someone several thousand dollars to do this to me, LOL).

Beth

> Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I

am

> having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it would

> be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

> right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can

you

> speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid

diet

> etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

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Hi Beth thanks for the information, which is really helpful. It is

good to know what i 'might' feel like when i come to after the op. I

am surprisingly not nervous at the moment but i think on the actual

day I will be. It sort of feels like it is not going to happen as

I've been thinking about this day for the last 3 years! Thanks again

and good luck with your recovery.

> > Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I

> am

> > having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it

would

> > be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

> > right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can

> you

> > speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid

> diet

> > etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

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Hi Beth thanks for the information, which is really helpful. It is

good to know what i 'might' feel like when i come to after the op. I

am surprisingly not nervous at the moment but i think on the actual

day I will be. It sort of feels like it is not going to happen as

I've been thinking about this day for the last 3 years! Thanks again

and good luck with your recovery.

> > Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I

> am

> > having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it

would

> > be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

> > right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can

> you

> > speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid

> diet

> > etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

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Hi Beth thanks for the information, which is really helpful. It is

good to know what i 'might' feel like when i come to after the op. I

am surprisingly not nervous at the moment but i think on the actual

day I will be. It sort of feels like it is not going to happen as

I've been thinking about this day for the last 3 years! Thanks again

and good luck with your recovery.

> > Hi beth thanks for replying and best wishes for your recovery. I

> am

> > having my surgery soon and anything you can tell me about it

would

> > be great, i.e. how long were you in hospital, what you felt like

> > right after surgery, did you have tubes and things still in, can

> you

> > speak, what did you feel like getting home, are you on a liquid

> diet

> > etc etc Any tips would be appreciated.

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