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In a message dated 3/20/01 12:10:54 PM Central Standard Time,

godave@... writes:

<< It was real interesting. Are any of you taking

progestrone or testostrone? >>

I went on a drug called " Lupron " right after my dx of RP in early 1999. What

Lupron does it shuts down your female hormones (stops periods also), I

started getting " real " ill with the RP I even became bed ridden and could not

move much at all, after 5 months on the Lupron shoots they stopped the Drug

and gave me a complete hysterectomy. I do believe that RP among others like

it have a lot to do with Hormones. I found out after a year off the Lupron

that is was the drug that made me so ill, it " Flared my RP " and would not let

the steroids do their job on me and that is why I got worse and not better it

blocked the steroids from working so it did not matter if I was on 1 mg or

100mg it would not absorb in my body.

You can find a lot out by doing a search on Lupron on the Internet. It

is also known to " CAUSE " Lupus and other autoimmune disorders! I cant

believe I was even given the drug.......and they tell us to trust our DR's!

If anyone would want more info on this please feel free to e-mail me

" privately. " This is a very " touchy " subject for my family and me, but we are

willing to talk more about it.

kp

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In a message dated 3/20/01 12:10:54 PM Central Standard Time,

godave@... writes:

<< It was real interesting. Are any of you taking

progestrone or testostrone? >>

I went on a drug called " Lupron " right after my dx of RP in early 1999. What

Lupron does it shuts down your female hormones (stops periods also), I

started getting " real " ill with the RP I even became bed ridden and could not

move much at all, after 5 months on the Lupron shoots they stopped the Drug

and gave me a complete hysterectomy. I do believe that RP among others like

it have a lot to do with Hormones. I found out after a year off the Lupron

that is was the drug that made me so ill, it " Flared my RP " and would not let

the steroids do their job on me and that is why I got worse and not better it

blocked the steroids from working so it did not matter if I was on 1 mg or

100mg it would not absorb in my body.

You can find a lot out by doing a search on Lupron on the Internet. It

is also known to " CAUSE " Lupus and other autoimmune disorders! I cant

believe I was even given the drug.......and they tell us to trust our DR's!

If anyone would want more info on this please feel free to e-mail me

" privately. " This is a very " touchy " subject for my family and me, but we are

willing to talk more about it.

kp

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> In a message dated 3/20/01 12:10:54 PM Central Standard Time,

> godave@c... writes:

>

> << It was real interesting. Are any of you taking

> progestrone or testostrone? >>

>

>

> I went on a drug called " Lupron " right after my dx of RP in early

1999. What

> Lupron does it shuts down your female hormones (stops periods

also), I

> started getting " real " ill with the RP I even became bed ridden and

could not

> move much at all, after 5 months on the Lupron shoots they stopped

the Drug

> and gave me a complete hysterectomy. I do believe that RP among

others like

> it have a lot to do with Hormones. I found out after a year off

the Lupron

> that is was the drug that made me so ill, it " Flared my RP " and

would not let

> the steroids do their job on me and that is why I got worse and not

better it

> blocked the steroids from working so it did not matter if I was on

1 mg or

> 100mg it would not absorb in my body.

>

> You can find a lot out by doing a search on Lupron on the

Internet. It

> is also known to " CAUSE " Lupus and other autoimmune disorders! I

cant

> believe I was even given the drug.......and they tell us to trust

our DR's!

> If anyone would want more info on this please feel free to e-mail

me

> " privately. " This is a very " touchy " subject for my family and me,

but we are

> willing to talk more about it.

>

> kp

Thanks kp for letting me know about your experience with this

medication. Can not believe that the doctor's put you through all

that. I can understand why it would be a touchy subject. Seems as

if they treat us like guinea pigs sometimes. At times I feel real

good about the care I get, at other times I just shake my head and

wonder if they really know what they are doing. Medicine is still

just a science though, and when one considers how our bodies are put

together and the abuse they get you wonder how we live as long as we

do. Mk.

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I would love to read the article from Mayo concerning hormones and RP. Where

can I find that please?

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Mayo Clinic article

> I read the article about auto immune diseases from the Mayo clinic

> web site. It was real interesting. Are any of you taking

> progestrone or testostrone? I take small doses of Premarin, but when

> I asked my doctor if I could take progestrone too, he said " NO " .

> According to the article taking those two medications " may " help

> protect against auto immune diseases. I have RP, but the rhumy also

> thought I was evolving another auto immune disorder, perhaps Lupus.

> Wonder if starting one of those meds now would help prevent this from

> evolving any further. Think I will take that article to my doctor

> next time I go in.

>

> Speaking of lemon bars, I made a double batch on Sunday. I shared

> some with my neighbors, but still have 1/2 the batch left. Well, not

> quite half. I've eaten my share. I check my blood sugar levels

> quite often because I'm on pred. So far, the levels have stayed in

> the normal range. I have always loved sweets, this isn't something

> new for me. Just wish I could develop a taste for fruits instead of

> all this sugary stuff. Marilyn

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In a message dated 3/20/01 10:11:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,

godave@... writes:

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Speaking of lemon bars, I made a double batch on Sunday. I shared

some with my neighbors, but still have 1/2 the batch left. Well, not

quite half. I've eaten my share. >>

Marilyn, there you go again. YOu are going to get me hungry for lemon

bars!!! Darn you. Hey......maybe I'll make that chocolate cream pie tomorrow

for Rich's birthday..UMMMMMM!!!

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In a message dated 3/20/01 10:11:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,

godave@... writes:

<<

Speaking of lemon bars, I made a double batch on Sunday. I shared

some with my neighbors, but still have 1/2 the batch left. Well, not

quite half. I've eaten my share. >>

Marilyn, there you go again. YOu are going to get me hungry for lemon

bars!!! Darn you. Hey......maybe I'll make that chocolate cream pie tomorrow

for Rich's birthday..UMMMMMM!!!

C

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In a message dated 3/20/01 10:11:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,

godave@... writes:

<<

Speaking of lemon bars, I made a double batch on Sunday. I shared

some with my neighbors, but still have 1/2 the batch left. Well, not

quite half. I've eaten my share. >>

Marilyn, there you go again. YOu are going to get me hungry for lemon

bars!!! Darn you. Hey......maybe I'll make that chocolate cream pie tomorrow

for Rich's birthday..UMMMMMM!!!

C

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Marilyn,

I take both, but the Provera I only take from days 15 thru days 25 so I am

only taking it 10 days out of the month.

BTW- I've been taking this for quite a while now and I'm still racking up

new autoimmune diseases, so it's not working in my case anyway. LOL

W

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I asked my doctor if I could take progestrone too, he said " NO " .

According to the article taking those two medications " may " help

protect against auto immune diseases. I have RP, but the rhumy also

thought I was evolving another auto immune disorder, perhaps Lupus.

Wonder if starting one of those meds now would help prevent this from

evolving any further. Think I will take that article to my doctor

next time I go in.

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Marilyn,

I take both, but the Provera I only take from days 15 thru days 25 so I am

only taking it 10 days out of the month.

BTW- I've been taking this for quite a while now and I'm still racking up

new autoimmune diseases, so it's not working in my case anyway. LOL

W

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I asked my doctor if I could take progestrone too, he said " NO " .

According to the article taking those two medications " may " help

protect against auto immune diseases. I have RP, but the rhumy also

thought I was evolving another auto immune disorder, perhaps Lupus.

Wonder if starting one of those meds now would help prevent this from

evolving any further. Think I will take that article to my doctor

next time I go in.

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Marilyn,

I take both, but the Provera I only take from days 15 thru days 25 so I am

only taking it 10 days out of the month.

BTW- I've been taking this for quite a while now and I'm still racking up

new autoimmune diseases, so it's not working in my case anyway. LOL

W

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I asked my doctor if I could take progestrone too, he said " NO " .

According to the article taking those two medications " may " help

protect against auto immune diseases. I have RP, but the rhumy also

thought I was evolving another auto immune disorder, perhaps Lupus.

Wonder if starting one of those meds now would help prevent this from

evolving any further. Think I will take that article to my doctor

next time I go in.

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--- godave@... wrote:

> I read the article about auto immune diseases from

> the Mayo clinic

> web site. It was real interesting. Are any of you

> taking

> progestrone or testostrone? I take small doses of

> Premarin, but when

> I asked my doctor if I could take progestrone too,

> he said " NO " .

> According to the article taking those two

> medications " may " help

> protect against auto immune diseases. I have RP,

> but the rhumy also

> thought I was evolving another auto immune disorder,

> perhaps Lupus.

> Wonder if starting one of those meds now would help

> prevent this from

> evolving any further. Think I will take that

> article to my doctor

> next time I go in.

>

> Speaking of lemon bars, I made a double batch on

> Sunday. I shared

> some with my neighbors, but still have 1/2 the batch

> left. Well, not

> quite half. I've eaten my share. I check my blood

> sugar levels

> quite often because I'm on pred. So far, the levels

> have stayed in

> the normal range. I have always loved sweets, this

> isn't something

> new for me. Just wish I could develop a taste for

> fruits instead of

> all this sugary stuff. Marilyn

>

> Marilyn, it is a good idea to check your blood sugar

levels, especially when taking pred, but only people

who are " predisposed " will develop diabetes, so don't

worry too much. My sugar levels went up the first

time I was given pred, and they explained all this to

me, although they said I was not yet diabetic it

probably would develop. Which it did. Also fruit is

still sugar, its just more " healthy " sugar!!But fruit

does have other benefits, like anti oxidants. I do try

to eat as much fruit and veg as possible. Love, Liz

>

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But on the good side, I was a guinea pig for the measles vaccine and for

Cortizone (my exzema was so bad it was just open oozing sores all over -

sorry to be so graphic, but it was horrible) and it took care of the problem

and I never got the measles, in my case, they knew I was dying so they were

willing to try anything. Kind of like throwing things at a wall to see what

will stick. But it worked, I'm still alive and kicking! LOL, Judy O

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But on the good side, I was a guinea pig for the measles vaccine and for

Cortizone (my exzema was so bad it was just open oozing sores all over -

sorry to be so graphic, but it was horrible) and it took care of the problem

and I never got the measles, in my case, they knew I was dying so they were

willing to try anything. Kind of like throwing things at a wall to see what

will stick. But it worked, I'm still alive and kicking! LOL, Judy O

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But on the good side, I was a guinea pig for the measles vaccine and for

Cortizone (my exzema was so bad it was just open oozing sores all over -

sorry to be so graphic, but it was horrible) and it took care of the problem

and I never got the measles, in my case, they knew I was dying so they were

willing to try anything. Kind of like throwing things at a wall to see what

will stick. But it worked, I'm still alive and kicking! LOL, Judy O

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