Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Blake- I think the best advise I can give you at this point, is to make sure that you are covered in terms of insurance. My surgery date was supposed to be last Monday, March 8th and two weeks prior, UHC denied my pre-certificaiton for surgery, even after paying and authorizing my SARPE (surgically assisted rapid palatal expansion) last June, knowing full well that I would be having this procedure. Its very frustrating, as I wait for my appeal to be reviewed. So, as unfortunate as this may be to hear, I would recommend you begin to ask your doctors office NOW, if you have not done so already. In terms of missing work for appointments, I have always tried to schedule my ortho appts on early Monday mornings, coming into work in the late morning. As surgery gets closer, you may need to take like 2 hours during the 2-3 weeks before, but it shouldn't be too bad. Having not gone thru the surgery yet, I too am in the same shoes as you...excited at this point, and desperately waiting for this insurance ordeal to be over. Best of luck, > Hello all. > > I think I'm getting close to my sugery date. MY Ortho said that he > just needs to close up the bottom gaps in my teeth, and that would be > 8-12 weeks. My next OS visit is in 8 weeks. I was told my surgery > would be in 'June', but I was hopeing it would be earlier. So, what > I'm wondering is, in 8 weeks after I see my OS, and he thinks my > teeth are closed and I'm ready for surgery, how much longer will it > be after that? > > I mean, I think I'll need models made again by my OS. But what other > steps will I have to take? Blood tests? Other visits to places? > Will I be taking a lot of breaks from work to make Doctor > appointments up until my surgery (like all through May?) > > I just want to get an idea of what I'll be doing up until surgery -- > I've read enough about how I'll feel AFTER surgery, that's for > sure! :-) > > Thanks everyone! > -Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Blake- I think the best advise I can give you at this point, is to make sure that you are covered in terms of insurance. My surgery date was supposed to be last Monday, March 8th and two weeks prior, UHC denied my pre-certificaiton for surgery, even after paying and authorizing my SARPE (surgically assisted rapid palatal expansion) last June, knowing full well that I would be having this procedure. Its very frustrating, as I wait for my appeal to be reviewed. So, as unfortunate as this may be to hear, I would recommend you begin to ask your doctors office NOW, if you have not done so already. In terms of missing work for appointments, I have always tried to schedule my ortho appts on early Monday mornings, coming into work in the late morning. As surgery gets closer, you may need to take like 2 hours during the 2-3 weeks before, but it shouldn't be too bad. Having not gone thru the surgery yet, I too am in the same shoes as you...excited at this point, and desperately waiting for this insurance ordeal to be over. Best of luck, > Hello all. > > I think I'm getting close to my sugery date. MY Ortho said that he > just needs to close up the bottom gaps in my teeth, and that would be > 8-12 weeks. My next OS visit is in 8 weeks. I was told my surgery > would be in 'June', but I was hopeing it would be earlier. So, what > I'm wondering is, in 8 weeks after I see my OS, and he thinks my > teeth are closed and I'm ready for surgery, how much longer will it > be after that? > > I mean, I think I'll need models made again by my OS. But what other > steps will I have to take? Blood tests? Other visits to places? > Will I be taking a lot of breaks from work to make Doctor > appointments up until my surgery (like all through May?) > > I just want to get an idea of what I'll be doing up until surgery -- > I've read enough about how I'll feel AFTER surgery, that's for > sure! :-) > > Thanks everyone! > -Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 , MAy I ask you a question? How old are you? I thought SARPE was that thing they put in the roof of your mouth, and you had to crank it daily to expande you palate, but after a certain age, it doesn't work anymore. Is that what you had done? I had that as a kid, and it relapsed, so now I'm having to get upper and lower. Anyway, on to insurance. Yes, I also have UHC, and it was a long fight to get pre-authorization. They kept losing paperwork that THEY SIGNED FOR over and over again. I finally called my HR department, (6 months went by, and no answer -- I was still in " Pending Review " ) and they called, and 2 days later, I got authorized! I have my pre- auth letter, and the doctor's office has theirs also. We had some sort of insurance consultants recommend UHC (they are a company called Lassiter-Ware Insurance Consulants) and that was who my HR person called. They got stuff done quick! So, what are you going to do about getting denied? What was their reasoning?? Can you have someone higher up in your organization call someone over at UHC, or to the company that recommended UHC? -Blake > > Hello all. > > > > I think I'm getting close to my sugery date. MY Ortho said that he > > just needs to close up the bottom gaps in my teeth, and that would > be > > 8-12 weeks. My next OS visit is in 8 weeks. I was told my surgery > > would be in 'June', but I was hopeing it would be earlier. So, > what > > I'm wondering is, in 8 weeks after I see my OS, and he thinks my > > teeth are closed and I'm ready for surgery, how much longer will it > > be after that? > > > > I mean, I think I'll need models made again by my OS. But what > other > > steps will I have to take? Blood tests? Other visits to places? > > Will I be taking a lot of breaks from work to make Doctor > > appointments up until my surgery (like all through May?) > > > > I just want to get an idea of what I'll be doing up until surgery -- > > > I've read enough about how I'll feel AFTER surgery, that's for > > sure! :-) > > > > Thanks everyone! > > -Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 Blake, I'll assume you have your surgeon picked out and have met with him/her already and have your insurance approval. Since I'm about the same timeframe (June 22nd) for surgery, I'll let you know what I've already planned with my hospital consultant at my OS. 1. I need a pre-surgical physical, probabaly within one month of my surgery. Basic history, bloodwork, and potentially and EKG may be part of this. From what I understand, this is the standard type of thing for any general surgery. 2. 3 weeks prior to surgery I've scheduled the appointment where molds will be taken. 3. 1 week prior to surgery I'll again meet with my OS to have final explanations on the surgery, test fit the splint which will be used during surgery to set my jaw in place (and hopefully be tossed instead of being wired in place) and sign consent forms, and get prescriptions for post/surgery. 4. I expect I'll also have my final appointment with the orthodontist to get the dreaded surgical hooks installed sometime that week. 5. Eat a big steak,hamburger, etc. 6. Finish my pre-surgical shopping list. See the files section for my complete list. Finally, if you haven't scheduled your surgery with your OS yet, do it today. From what mine told me, the summer is extremely busy for them since that's when most kids get their wisdom teeth done and have extractions so it doesn't affect their school timing. Hope this helps! Dammit > Hello all. > > I think I'm getting close to my sugery date. MY Ortho said that he > just needs to close up the bottom gaps in my teeth, and that would be > 8-12 weeks. My next OS visit is in 8 weeks. I was told my surgery > would be in 'June', but I was hopeing it would be earlier. So, what > I'm wondering is, in 8 weeks after I see my OS, and he thinks my > teeth are closed and I'm ready for surgery, how much longer will it > be after that? > > I mean, I think I'll need models made again by my OS. But what other > steps will I have to take? Blood tests? Other visits to places? > Will I be taking a lot of breaks from work to make Doctor > appointments up until my surgery (like all through May?) > > I just want to get an idea of what I'll be doing up until surgery -- > I've read enough about how I'll feel AFTER surgery, that's for > sure! :-) > > Thanks everyone! > -Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 I'm 26. When you're young (before jaw bones have fused) they can put the install the expantion device in your mouth and you just turn away and the soft bones just expand. BUT, a SARPE is where they install the device, and then they surgically make incisions (under anesthesia) in your upper jaw, so that when you turn the key, the jaw will move. So last June UHC approved and paid for that procedure, knowing full well from the letter my doctor sent that I would be having this procedure and they still denied it. Anyway, I am pretty much all over them AND my internal HR department. Incredible, the FedEx package arrived nearly 12 days ago. The reps on the phone at UHC have NOTHING in their records, yet my HR person can get status from her contact in UHC...whoever that is. My next step after this week, if things do not go well, is to get in touch with a similar person that helped you. We use a 3rd party benefits coordinator, who apparently have people employed (ex- insurance claims people) to deal with these situation on my behalf. I'd love for them to step in NOW...but I have to wait. Story of my life. I could always go higher up, but I'm going to wait to see what happens by the end of this week. Wish me luck, > > > Hello all. > > > > > > I think I'm getting close to my sugery date. MY Ortho said that > he > > > just needs to close up the bottom gaps in my teeth, and that > would > > be > > > 8-12 weeks. My next OS visit is in 8 weeks. I was told my > surgery > > > would be in 'June', but I was hopeing it would be earlier. So, > > what > > > I'm wondering is, in 8 weeks after I see my OS, and he thinks my > > > teeth are closed and I'm ready for surgery, how much longer will > it > > > be after that? > > > > > > I mean, I think I'll need models made again by my OS. But what > > other > > > steps will I have to take? Blood tests? Other visits to > places? > > > Will I be taking a lot of breaks from work to make Doctor > > > appointments up until my surgery (like all through May?) > > > > > > I just want to get an idea of what I'll be doing up until > surgery -- > > > > > I've read enough about how I'll feel AFTER surgery, that's for > > > sure! :-) > > > > > > Thanks everyone! > > > -Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 I'm 26. When you're young (before jaw bones have fused) they can put the install the expantion device in your mouth and you just turn away and the soft bones just expand. BUT, a SARPE is where they install the device, and then they surgically make incisions (under anesthesia) in your upper jaw, so that when you turn the key, the jaw will move. So last June UHC approved and paid for that procedure, knowing full well from the letter my doctor sent that I would be having this procedure and they still denied it. Anyway, I am pretty much all over them AND my internal HR department. Incredible, the FedEx package arrived nearly 12 days ago. The reps on the phone at UHC have NOTHING in their records, yet my HR person can get status from her contact in UHC...whoever that is. My next step after this week, if things do not go well, is to get in touch with a similar person that helped you. We use a 3rd party benefits coordinator, who apparently have people employed (ex- insurance claims people) to deal with these situation on my behalf. I'd love for them to step in NOW...but I have to wait. Story of my life. I could always go higher up, but I'm going to wait to see what happens by the end of this week. Wish me luck, > > > Hello all. > > > > > > I think I'm getting close to my sugery date. MY Ortho said that > he > > > just needs to close up the bottom gaps in my teeth, and that > would > > be > > > 8-12 weeks. My next OS visit is in 8 weeks. I was told my > surgery > > > would be in 'June', but I was hopeing it would be earlier. So, > > what > > > I'm wondering is, in 8 weeks after I see my OS, and he thinks my > > > teeth are closed and I'm ready for surgery, how much longer will > it > > > be after that? > > > > > > I mean, I think I'll need models made again by my OS. But what > > other > > > steps will I have to take? Blood tests? Other visits to > places? > > > Will I be taking a lot of breaks from work to make Doctor > > > appointments up until my surgery (like all through May?) > > > > > > I just want to get an idea of what I'll be doing up until > surgery -- > > > > > I've read enough about how I'll feel AFTER surgery, that's for > > > sure! :-) > > > > > > Thanks everyone! > > > -Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2004 Report Share Posted March 16, 2004 I'm 26. When you're young (before jaw bones have fused) they can put the install the expantion device in your mouth and you just turn away and the soft bones just expand. BUT, a SARPE is where they install the device, and then they surgically make incisions (under anesthesia) in your upper jaw, so that when you turn the key, the jaw will move. So last June UHC approved and paid for that procedure, knowing full well from the letter my doctor sent that I would be having this procedure and they still denied it. Anyway, I am pretty much all over them AND my internal HR department. Incredible, the FedEx package arrived nearly 12 days ago. The reps on the phone at UHC have NOTHING in their records, yet my HR person can get status from her contact in UHC...whoever that is. My next step after this week, if things do not go well, is to get in touch with a similar person that helped you. We use a 3rd party benefits coordinator, who apparently have people employed (ex- insurance claims people) to deal with these situation on my behalf. I'd love for them to step in NOW...but I have to wait. Story of my life. I could always go higher up, but I'm going to wait to see what happens by the end of this week. Wish me luck, > > > Hello all. > > > > > > I think I'm getting close to my sugery date. MY Ortho said that > he > > > just needs to close up the bottom gaps in my teeth, and that > would > > be > > > 8-12 weeks. My next OS visit is in 8 weeks. I was told my > surgery > > > would be in 'June', but I was hopeing it would be earlier. So, > > what > > > I'm wondering is, in 8 weeks after I see my OS, and he thinks my > > > teeth are closed and I'm ready for surgery, how much longer will > it > > > be after that? > > > > > > I mean, I think I'll need models made again by my OS. But what > > other > > > steps will I have to take? Blood tests? Other visits to > places? > > > Will I be taking a lot of breaks from work to make Doctor > > > appointments up until my surgery (like all through May?) > > > > > > I just want to get an idea of what I'll be doing up until > surgery -- > > > > > I've read enough about how I'll feel AFTER surgery, that's for > > > sure! :-) > > > > > > Thanks everyone! > > > -Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 <<4. I expect I'll also have my final appointment with the orthodontist to get the dreaded surgical hooks installed >> I got my hooks installed today and it's no worse than having your o- rings changed. It's certainly not worth dreading. So far I can feel them on my lips, but they're not bothersome. I wouldn't worry about that part of things. I had a funny-ish moment at the ortho today. He was giving me last minute advice before surgery, and part of it was to eat a lot. I said I had packed on 4 lbs, and just yesterday I was pigging out, thinking, " I really shouldn't be snarfing like this. No, wait, I should be. Although perhaps Doritos aren't what I need. " As soon as I said it I realized that Doritos are on the no-no list. I got scolded - now is NOT the time to be breaking or loosening my brackets! I told him I don't really chew, I only suck on them, because I like the coating. I don't know if he believed me or not. : ) At least I didn't go in with any broken or loose brackets so he could add to his scolding. Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 <<4. I expect I'll also have my final appointment with the orthodontist to get the dreaded surgical hooks installed >> I got my hooks installed today and it's no worse than having your o- rings changed. It's certainly not worth dreading. So far I can feel them on my lips, but they're not bothersome. I wouldn't worry about that part of things. I had a funny-ish moment at the ortho today. He was giving me last minute advice before surgery, and part of it was to eat a lot. I said I had packed on 4 lbs, and just yesterday I was pigging out, thinking, " I really shouldn't be snarfing like this. No, wait, I should be. Although perhaps Doritos aren't what I need. " As soon as I said it I realized that Doritos are on the no-no list. I got scolded - now is NOT the time to be breaking or loosening my brackets! I told him I don't really chew, I only suck on them, because I like the coating. I don't know if he believed me or not. : ) At least I didn't go in with any broken or loose brackets so he could add to his scolding. Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2004 Report Share Posted March 17, 2004 <<4. I expect I'll also have my final appointment with the orthodontist to get the dreaded surgical hooks installed >> I got my hooks installed today and it's no worse than having your o- rings changed. It's certainly not worth dreading. So far I can feel them on my lips, but they're not bothersome. I wouldn't worry about that part of things. I had a funny-ish moment at the ortho today. He was giving me last minute advice before surgery, and part of it was to eat a lot. I said I had packed on 4 lbs, and just yesterday I was pigging out, thinking, " I really shouldn't be snarfing like this. No, wait, I should be. Although perhaps Doritos aren't what I need. " As soon as I said it I realized that Doritos are on the no-no list. I got scolded - now is NOT the time to be breaking or loosening my brackets! I told him I don't really chew, I only suck on them, because I like the coating. I don't know if he believed me or not. : ) At least I didn't go in with any broken or loose brackets so he could add to his scolding. Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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