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Try Vitamin E oil. You can get it in a pricey bottle, at a pharmacy,

or in capseals or whatever they call those gel-cap things. The latter

is less expensive, and you just poke a capseal with a pin, and

squeeze the oil out.

Aquaphor is also good. Also at a pharmacy. Made by Eucerin. Get a

little tube, if you can, first, because it, too, is pricey and a tiny

bit goes a long way. A local radiology clinic has a whole basket of

tiny tubes (samples) available for the taking, to soothe skin that's

been damaged by radiation.

Carmex is nice, but it's a hard wax. Either of the above is softer.

C.

> is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I am

> now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> everything else so far - will be temporary.

>

> Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my lips??

> They're ready to burn up and fall off.

>

> :-/\

> Corinne

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Try Vitamin E oil. You can get it in a pricey bottle, at a pharmacy,

or in capseals or whatever they call those gel-cap things. The latter

is less expensive, and you just poke a capseal with a pin, and

squeeze the oil out.

Aquaphor is also good. Also at a pharmacy. Made by Eucerin. Get a

little tube, if you can, first, because it, too, is pricey and a tiny

bit goes a long way. A local radiology clinic has a whole basket of

tiny tubes (samples) available for the taking, to soothe skin that's

been damaged by radiation.

Carmex is nice, but it's a hard wax. Either of the above is softer.

C.

> is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I am

> now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> everything else so far - will be temporary.

>

> Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my lips??

> They're ready to burn up and fall off.

>

> :-/\

> Corinne

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I don't know too much about lip balms, but I think that the menthol or

other " cooling " agents in Blistex and others are drying. Maybe try a

naural lip balm without additives or vitamin E, as Cammie suggested.

Eileen

> is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I am

> now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> everything else so far - will be temporary.

>

> Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my lips??

> They're ready to burn up and fall off.

>

> :-/\

> Corinne

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I found some great stuff that works wonders. It's called Carmex and

can be found at most drug stores (I get mine at CVS or Target). Very

soothing.

> is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I am

> now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> everything else so far - will be temporary.

>

> Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my lips??

> They're ready to burn up and fall off.

>

> :-/\

> Corinne

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I found some great stuff that works wonders. It's called Carmex and

can be found at most drug stores (I get mine at CVS or Target). Very

soothing.

> is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I am

> now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> everything else so far - will be temporary.

>

> Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my lips??

> They're ready to burn up and fall off.

>

> :-/\

> Corinne

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Here's a GENERAL suggestion for those with dry lips. My surgery is

upcoming in the next month (pending insurance appeal...UGH!), but

I've actually been a mouth breather most of my life. I think that

since my SARPE, by nose breathing has improved...but when I was

about 16-19 yrs old (I'm now 26), I was totally addicted to Chap

Stick. I actually knew some other people who were as well. Well,

funny as is sounds...YES, you can get addicted to any lip balm that

contains any sort of alcohol (Methanol, anything ending in " ol " ).

Now don't laugh...but, basically, similar premise as alcoholics.

They drink and drink and the addiction takes over and they need

alcohol. Similarly, one of the fuctions of your lips are to create

moisture, so the more you use lip balms with alcohol in them, your

lips are constantly moisturized, and eventually, your lips will

create less and less moisture on their own...because why should

they, you're applying Carmex/Blistex/etc all the time.

So, now you're all educated on lip therapy. My dermatologist had

once suggested to use a Petrolium based ointment (Vaseline or even

the CVS/Rite Aid/etc. brands), as long as they don't contain

alcohol. I now use very little on my lips (maybe 2-4 times a day).

Lastly, there's actually a website called Lip Balm Anonymous

(http://www.kevdo.com/lipbalm/addict.html) if you want to read more

about this. I tell ya, there's support out there for just about

anything.

Best of luck...and throw out those Carmex & Blistex tubes.

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> > is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> > SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I

am

> > now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> > everything else so far - will be temporary.

> >

> > Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my

lips??

> > They're ready to burn up and fall off.

> >

> > :-/\

> > Corinne

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Here's a GENERAL suggestion for those with dry lips. My surgery is

upcoming in the next month (pending insurance appeal...UGH!), but

I've actually been a mouth breather most of my life. I think that

since my SARPE, by nose breathing has improved...but when I was

about 16-19 yrs old (I'm now 26), I was totally addicted to Chap

Stick. I actually knew some other people who were as well. Well,

funny as is sounds...YES, you can get addicted to any lip balm that

contains any sort of alcohol (Methanol, anything ending in " ol " ).

Now don't laugh...but, basically, similar premise as alcoholics.

They drink and drink and the addiction takes over and they need

alcohol. Similarly, one of the fuctions of your lips are to create

moisture, so the more you use lip balms with alcohol in them, your

lips are constantly moisturized, and eventually, your lips will

create less and less moisture on their own...because why should

they, you're applying Carmex/Blistex/etc all the time.

So, now you're all educated on lip therapy. My dermatologist had

once suggested to use a Petrolium based ointment (Vaseline or even

the CVS/Rite Aid/etc. brands), as long as they don't contain

alcohol. I now use very little on my lips (maybe 2-4 times a day).

Lastly, there's actually a website called Lip Balm Anonymous

(http://www.kevdo.com/lipbalm/addict.html) if you want to read more

about this. I tell ya, there's support out there for just about

anything.

Best of luck...and throw out those Carmex & Blistex tubes.

-

> > is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> > SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I

am

> > now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> > everything else so far - will be temporary.

> >

> > Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my

lips??

> > They're ready to burn up and fall off.

> >

> > :-/\

> > Corinne

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Corinne,

Sorry you are in chapped lip hell! I hope you can get some relief

soon. I'm almost 3 weeks post op (surgery on March 2nd) and I've

been using Aveda Lip Saver. I picked it up at an Aveda store when I

was in Canada, but am sure you could find it either online or find a

store on the aveda (www.aveda.com) website. Good luck!

Britt

> is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I

am

> now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> everything else so far - will be temporary.

>

> Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my lips??

> They're ready to burn up and fall off.

>

> :-/\

> Corinne

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Corinne,

Sorry you are in chapped lip hell! I hope you can get some relief

soon. I'm almost 3 weeks post op (surgery on March 2nd) and I've

been using Aveda Lip Saver. I picked it up at an Aveda store when I

was in Canada, but am sure you could find it either online or find a

store on the aveda (www.aveda.com) website. Good luck!

Britt

> is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips are

> SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief. I

am

> now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> everything else so far - will be temporary.

>

> Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my lips??

> They're ready to burn up and fall off.

>

> :-/\

> Corinne

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Love this site--you can go from communion to " chapstick hell " in one

post. I'm an addict too, although only at night (can't sleep without

some kind of stuff on my lips). I've noticed that since I got my

braces on, I'm also having to use more and more lip stuff during the

day (my bottom lip is really sticking out). Here are some that have

really worked for me: (1) Neutrogena Norweigian (sp?) formula hand

cream (I've used this for years and it is very potent), and (2)

Medela Purelan lotion (this is actually for nursing mothers, but it

is fantastic for chapped lips as well--and a tube lasts a LONG time--

my oldest is 5 and I've had it since she was born). I've been using

Aquaphor lately after hearing raves on this site, but I think

Neutrogena and Purelan are actually more moisturizing. I like the

Aquaphor, but it's not as thick and I feel like I have to keep

putting it on. Best of luck to all of you fellow addicts out there!

> > > is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips

are

> > > SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief.

I

> am

> > > now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> > > everything else so far - will be temporary.

> > >

> > > Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my

> lips??

> > > They're ready to burn up and fall off.

> > >

> > > :-/\

> > > Corinne

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Love this site--you can go from communion to " chapstick hell " in one

post. I'm an addict too, although only at night (can't sleep without

some kind of stuff on my lips). I've noticed that since I got my

braces on, I'm also having to use more and more lip stuff during the

day (my bottom lip is really sticking out). Here are some that have

really worked for me: (1) Neutrogena Norweigian (sp?) formula hand

cream (I've used this for years and it is very potent), and (2)

Medela Purelan lotion (this is actually for nursing mothers, but it

is fantastic for chapped lips as well--and a tube lasts a LONG time--

my oldest is 5 and I've had it since she was born). I've been using

Aquaphor lately after hearing raves on this site, but I think

Neutrogena and Purelan are actually more moisturizing. I like the

Aquaphor, but it's not as thick and I feel like I have to keep

putting it on. Best of luck to all of you fellow addicts out there!

> > > is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips

are

> > > SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief.

I

> am

> > > now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> > > everything else so far - will be temporary.

> > >

> > > Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my

> lips??

> > > They're ready to burn up and fall off.

> > >

> > > :-/\

> > > Corinne

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This got me to thinking, and I came up with a possible solution to a

slightly different problem I've been having. I wanted to run it

past you guys and see if you thought it was feasible.

For the past couple weeks I've had problems with excessive mouth

watering. I mean, I sit there and swallow, swallow, swallow, trying

to keep up with how fast I'm salivating. If it happens when I'm

asleep, I wake up choking. My dentist can't figure it out, but

thought maybe my braces were touching my glands and setting them off.

Then I read this about your body not moisterizing if it doesn't have

to, and wondered if the reverse could be true. I've always been a

mouth breather, but this past month, after switching vitamins, I'm

suddenly able to breathe though my nose. My mouth is now closed

most of the time. Do you think I've always been producing a lot of

spit trying to keep up with my mouth breathing (which would have

been drying it up), and now that my mouth is shut, my body doesn't

know to slow down?

Second question: I'm one of the many addicted to lip balm.

Sometimes every 10 minutes. My lips chap so bad if I don't wax them

constantly. How do I break that cycle without my lips peeling right

off?

Kris

> > > is it possible to be addicted to Blistex and Carmex? My lips

are

> > > SOOOOOO chapped - nothing provides more than temporary relief.

I

> am

> > > now almost 6-weeks post-op and I want to know if this, like

> > > everything else so far - will be temporary.

> > >

> > > Also - any advice on other balm-type stuff I can put on my

> lips??

> > > They're ready to burn up and fall off.

> > >

> > > :-/\

> > > Corinne

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Hi Kris,

I think the opposite could be true, absolutely. That happened to me

as well, a fellow former mouth breather. How long ago was your

surgery? Almost 4 weeks out I am still producing a lot of saliva, but

I still have my stent in (getting it tomorrow, yay!!) which I think is

the reason for the slobberfest - i.e. foreign object in the mouth

stimulates saliva glands. Braces affect it too. Hopefully it slows

down with everything changed. I am by no means an expert, but wanted

to share my experience.

> This got me to thinking, and I came up with a possible solution to a

> slightly different problem I've been having. I wanted to run it

> past you guys and see if you thought it was feasible.

>

> For the past couple weeks I've had problems with excessive mouth

> watering. I mean, I sit there and swallow, swallow, swallow, trying

> to keep up with how fast I'm salivating. If it happens when I'm

> asleep, I wake up choking. My dentist can't figure it out, but

> thought maybe my braces were touching my glands and setting them off.

>

> Then I read this about your body not moisterizing if it doesn't have

> to, and wondered if the reverse could be true. I've always been a

> mouth breather, but this past month, after switching vitamins, I'm

> suddenly able to breathe though my nose. My mouth is now closed

> most of the time. Do you think I've always been producing a lot of

> spit trying to keep up with my mouth breathing (which would have

> been drying it up), and now that my mouth is shut, my body doesn't

> know to slow down?

>

> Second question: I'm one of the many addicted to lip balm.

> Sometimes every 10 minutes. My lips chap so bad if I don't wax them

> constantly. How do I break that cycle without my lips peeling right

> off?

>

> Kris

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My surgery is this coming Thurs, the 25th. I've had braces for 2

years, and the slobber problem for only a month, which just happens

to be the same month I've been breathing through my nose. You'd

think if my braces were going to do it, they would have been

before ...

When I had my molds taken for the surgical model, I had drool

running out my mouth dribbling down my shirt. The OS assistant gave

me a KLEENEX. One. At the ortho's office I get a whole paper

towel, so if I need to gag and spew I can at least catch some of

it. : )

So do you do anything besides swallow continually? There has to be

something to slow it down.

Kris

> Hi Kris,

>

> I think the opposite could be true, absolutely. That happened to

me

> as well, a fellow former mouth breather. How long ago was your

> surgery? Almost 4 weeks out I am still producing a lot of saliva,

but

> I still have my stent in (getting it tomorrow, yay!!) which I

think is

> the reason for the slobberfest - i.e. foreign object in the mouth

> stimulates saliva glands. Braces affect it too. Hopefully it

slows

> down with everything changed. I am by no means an expert, but

wanted

> to share my experience.

>

>

>

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I have no solutions for you, but I had a question?

What kind of vitamins are you taking that make it possible to breath

though your nose better? I am such a mouth breather and it drives me

nuts at night.

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I take All One, found at All-One.com. I can't swear it's what's

making me suddenly able to breathe, but the timing is quite a

coincidence, and I don't have any other explanation. I will warn you

that my GP says that it has too much vitamin A, which builds up in

the liver and can cause problems down the road. He says to take my

dose every other day and I'll avoid build-up. Right now I'm doing

every day anyway because my surgery is in three days and I don't

think vitamin A will do me any harm in the short run. When I'm all

healed I'll go back to every other day.

Kris

> I have no solutions for you, but I had a question?

> What kind of vitamins are you taking that make it possible to

breath

> though your nose better? I am such a mouth breather and it drives

me

> nuts at night.

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I take All One, found at All-One.com. I can't swear it's what's

making me suddenly able to breathe, but the timing is quite a

coincidence, and I don't have any other explanation. I will warn you

that my GP says that it has too much vitamin A, which builds up in

the liver and can cause problems down the road. He says to take my

dose every other day and I'll avoid build-up. Right now I'm doing

every day anyway because my surgery is in three days and I don't

think vitamin A will do me any harm in the short run. When I'm all

healed I'll go back to every other day.

Kris

> I have no solutions for you, but I had a question?

> What kind of vitamins are you taking that make it possible to

breath

> though your nose better? I am such a mouth breather and it drives

me

> nuts at night.

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I take All One, found at All-One.com. I can't swear it's what's

making me suddenly able to breathe, but the timing is quite a

coincidence, and I don't have any other explanation. I will warn you

that my GP says that it has too much vitamin A, which builds up in

the liver and can cause problems down the road. He says to take my

dose every other day and I'll avoid build-up. Right now I'm doing

every day anyway because my surgery is in three days and I don't

think vitamin A will do me any harm in the short run. When I'm all

healed I'll go back to every other day.

Kris

> I have no solutions for you, but I had a question?

> What kind of vitamins are you taking that make it possible to

breath

> though your nose better? I am such a mouth breather and it drives

me

> nuts at night.

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