Re: Chat time --> Bill P. in Oz

[Guest guest]

Pam,

He is near Anne (an hour or so drive as best I can tell) in Queensland, so they

are 15 hours ahead of EDT in the USA (14 ahead of you). Ipswich is just west of

Brisbane.

Take care, Bill Werre

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Pam Bower wrote:

> Bill in Oz... tell us what time zone you are in and what hours you are

> usually at your computer... we can try to arrange a convenient time to set

> up a chat with you. I believe our Sunday afternoon chat in North America is

> very early Monday morning in Australia (it would be about 8PM Greenich Mean

> Time I think) so we can try set up a special time just to chat with the

> folks downunder.

>

> Hugs,

> Pam

>

> Re: Belinda or Aletta

>

> Sorry I am getting people mixed up, that seems about right for me. Soory I

> can't respond to anything tonight, I have got to sleep. The Monitor kee[s

> disappearing in to a blur. I missed the chat, I dont know when they are

> occuring. I am very tired, Finished replacing the Big end bearings in our

> Landcruiser (with a lot of help from my son). I'm totally exhausted.

> I'll come back soon

> Love to you all, Bill Pilgrim

>

> Belinda: getting needs met

> > >

> > >

> > > > Belinda;

> > > > Once you're told you have something terminal it would be ABNORMAL

> > to not

> > > > think of what dying would be like. Of course, most of our

> > relatives and

> > > > family will make it something that they'd rather not speak of

> > (Ostrich

> > > > syndrome), but we need to, and while we still can. I have put it

> > in

> > > > writing and instructed my kids on how I want to die. Stipulating

> > at which

> > >

> > > > point in time I no longer want the intrusion and pain of heroic

> > life

> > > saving

> > > > measures. I'm a flower child of the sixties and to this day see

> > nothing

> > > > wrong with the responsible use of drugs to ease the pain of

> > living. It is

> > > > related to living, I do not believe death is painful, just the

> > parts

> > > > leading up to it. Pain killing drugs are humane, pain is

> > damaging, I

> > > don't

> > > > want a buzz, I'd just like not to have the intrusion and life

> > sucking

> > > pain,

> > > > because it makes me cranky, and tired and clouds the nice

> > thoughts I'd

> > > > rather be having. Talking about my fears and the decisions I

> > need to make

> > > > now are rarely possible with family and friends, that's where a

> > therapist

> > > > is a wonderful soothing prescence, someone who allows all your

> > thoughts to

> > > > expressed, that process makes it smaller manageable and

> > aknowledged.

> > > > Too often this North Amercian culture conditions women to be

> > treated with

> > > > less respect when it comes to suffering. For one thing girls

> > here are

> > > > supposed the make 'nice' be pleasant no matter what (encouraging

> > you to

> > > > suspend your feelings to please those of others), and

> > perplexingly also be

> > > > more demonstrative (hysterical) when it comes to emotions. This

> > is a very

> > > > counter-productive mindset. It conditions people to think

> > nothing is very

> > > > wrong with us when it is and requires us to emote only on queque

> > (well,

> > > not

> > > > me, I'm Eurotrash). If you are sleepwalking and having blackouts

> > (can't

> > > > remember how I got there), you are most likely sleep deprived.

> > Doctors

> > > are

> > > > very reluctant about sleep medication (could become

> > > > dependant//addicted). Insist on getting some help getting

> > sleep. Two

> > > > years ago I walked into my therapist's office (he's an MD) and

> > told him

> > > > simply he could give me something so I could sleep or I would

> > likely slit

> > > > my wrists. Unlike the more subtler discussions with my GP etc.

> > this got

> > > > results. I've been taking sleeping pills since which work. I

> > take no

> > > > higher dose than two years ago, and yes, I am dependant, because

> > I cannot

> > > > function when sleep deprived (especially cognitively). I'm

> > terminal for

> > > > Pete's sake I don't think possible addiction is a worst case

> > > > scenario. Since they expect drama, you may have to be dramatic,

> > and

> > > > insistent. Don't buy the anti-depressant bull either, those

> > never did me

> > > > any good, and have worse side-effect than the sleeping pills. If

> > getting

> > > > adequate, quality sleep does not improve your well-being, then

> > perhaps you

> > > > can ask a neuro to consider anti-convulsants (sleepwalking and

> > seizures

> > > can

> > > > be one and the same). Don't make nice, tell them exactly what

> > you want

> > > and

> > > > insist someone monitor your progress (it may take numerous

> > > > adjustments). It is your body, your life and your death go for

> > the 110%

> > > of

> > > > what is possible, that is dignity, quiet desperation is for

> > wussies.

> > > >

> > > > When I was actively looking for my new physician, I prepared a

> > handout of

> > > > what I wanted from a GP, I knew he would work out because he

> > accepted the

> > > > whole list, here it is, maybe someone else can use it:

> > > > 1. someone who truly believes I am ill and not feigning

> > > > 2. someone who ccan take into account my history of dance, and

> > training as

> > > > dance therapist, counselling and practicing yogal since birth

> > > > 3. someone who takes into account I took no prescription

> > medications from

> > > > age 22 until mid-thirties and only in dyer need

> > > > 4. someone who takes into account that I tried and remain loyal

> > to natural

> > > > healing practices, when it is effective and low risk (early years

> > with

> > > > fatigue used Chinese herbal teas including the dreaded ko-buch-hah

> > > mushroom

> > > > which fermented in dark tea on top of my fridge for the two years

> > years I

> > > > was loyal to it)

> > > > 5. someone willing to liaise with a rehab worker on my behalf

> > (services

> > > out

> > > > of reach without a GP and a least a tentative diagnosis which

> > supports

> > > > needed resources, equipment and medical therapies not otherwise

> > covered)

> > > > 6. someone who will be sincere and direct

> > > > 7. someone who will involve me and treat me as a person not a

> > patient

> > > > 8. someone willing to do follow-up and monitoring, not just crisis

> > > management

> > > > 9. someone willing to discuss with my therapist when there are

> > doubt about

> > > > my mental status or about the past four years since he was the one

> > > > monitoring my symptoms and meds consistently

> > > >

> > > > Of course you'd have to change to suit your history etc. but you

> > get the

> > > > idea. Be clear what you need, and insistent. So far this is

> > working very

> > > > well for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > aletta mes

> > > > vancouver, bc Canada

> > > > web: http://aletta.0catch.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > > > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > > >

> > > > shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Pam,

He is near Anne (an hour or so drive as best I can tell) in Queensland, so they

are 15 hours ahead of EDT in the USA (14 ahead of you). Ipswich is just west of

Brisbane.

Take care, Bill Werre

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Pam Bower wrote:

> Bill in Oz... tell us what time zone you are in and what hours you are

> usually at your computer... we can try to arrange a convenient time to set

> up a chat with you. I believe our Sunday afternoon chat in North America is

> very early Monday morning in Australia (it would be about 8PM Greenich Mean

> Time I think) so we can try set up a special time just to chat with the

> folks downunder.

>

> Hugs,

> Pam

>

> Re: Belinda or Aletta

>

> Sorry I am getting people mixed up, that seems about right for me. Soory I

> can't respond to anything tonight, I have got to sleep. The Monitor kee[s

> disappearing in to a blur. I missed the chat, I dont know when they are

> occuring. I am very tired, Finished replacing the Big end bearings in our

> Landcruiser (with a lot of help from my son). I'm totally exhausted.

> I'll come back soon

> Love to you all, Bill Pilgrim

>

> Belinda: getting needs met

> > >

> > >

> > > > Belinda;

> > > > Once you're told you have something terminal it would be ABNORMAL

> > to not

> > > > think of what dying would be like. Of course, most of our

> > relatives and

> > > > family will make it something that they'd rather not speak of

> > (Ostrich

> > > > syndrome), but we need to, and while we still can. I have put it

> > in

> > > > writing and instructed my kids on how I want to die. Stipulating

> > at which

> > >

> > > > point in time I no longer want the intrusion and pain of heroic

> > life

> > > saving

> > > > measures. I'm a flower child of the sixties and to this day see

> > nothing

> > > > wrong with the responsible use of drugs to ease the pain of

> > living. It is

> > > > related to living, I do not believe death is painful, just the

> > parts

> > > > leading up to it. Pain killing drugs are humane, pain is

> > damaging, I

> > > don't

> > > > want a buzz, I'd just like not to have the intrusion and life

> > sucking

> > > pain,

> > > > because it makes me cranky, and tired and clouds the nice

> > thoughts I'd

> > > > rather be having. Talking about my fears and the decisions I

> > need to make

> > > > now are rarely possible with family and friends, that's where a

> > therapist

> > > > is a wonderful soothing prescence, someone who allows all your

> > thoughts to

> > > > expressed, that process makes it smaller manageable and

> > aknowledged.

> > > > Too often this North Amercian culture conditions women to be

> > treated with

> > > > less respect when it comes to suffering. For one thing girls

> > here are

> > > > supposed the make 'nice' be pleasant no matter what (encouraging

> > you to

> > > > suspend your feelings to please those of others), and

> > perplexingly also be

> > > > more demonstrative (hysterical) when it comes to emotions. This

> > is a very

> > > > counter-productive mindset. It conditions people to think

> > nothing is very

> > > > wrong with us when it is and requires us to emote only on queque

> > (well,

> > > not

> > > > me, I'm Eurotrash). If you are sleepwalking and having blackouts

> > (can't

> > > > remember how I got there), you are most likely sleep deprived.

> > Doctors

> > > are

> > > > very reluctant about sleep medication (could become

> > > > dependant//addicted). Insist on getting some help getting

> > sleep. Two

> > > > years ago I walked into my therapist's office (he's an MD) and

> > told him

> > > > simply he could give me something so I could sleep or I would

> > likely slit

> > > > my wrists. Unlike the more subtler discussions with my GP etc.

> > this got

> > > > results. I've been taking sleeping pills since which work. I

> > take no

> > > > higher dose than two years ago, and yes, I am dependant, because

> > I cannot

> > > > function when sleep deprived (especially cognitively). I'm

> > terminal for

> > > > Pete's sake I don't think possible addiction is a worst case

> > > > scenario. Since they expect drama, you may have to be dramatic,

> > and

> > > > insistent. Don't buy the anti-depressant bull either, those

> > never did me

> > > > any good, and have worse side-effect than the sleeping pills. If

> > getting

> > > > adequate, quality sleep does not improve your well-being, then

> > perhaps you

> > > > can ask a neuro to consider anti-convulsants (sleepwalking and

> > seizures

> > > can

> > > > be one and the same). Don't make nice, tell them exactly what

> > you want

> > > and

> > > > insist someone monitor your progress (it may take numerous

> > > > adjustments). It is your body, your life and your death go for

> > the 110%

> > > of

> > > > what is possible, that is dignity, quiet desperation is for

> > wussies.

> > > >

> > > > When I was actively looking for my new physician, I prepared a

> > handout of

> > > > what I wanted from a GP, I knew he would work out because he

> > accepted the

> > > > whole list, here it is, maybe someone else can use it:

> > > > 1. someone who truly believes I am ill and not feigning

> > > > 2. someone who ccan take into account my history of dance, and

> > training as

> > > > dance therapist, counselling and practicing yogal since birth

> > > > 3. someone who takes into account I took no prescription

> > medications from

> > > > age 22 until mid-thirties and only in dyer need

> > > > 4. someone who takes into account that I tried and remain loyal

> > to natural

> > > > healing practices, when it is effective and low risk (early years

> > with

> > > > fatigue used Chinese herbal teas including the dreaded ko-buch-hah

> > > mushroom

> > > > which fermented in dark tea on top of my fridge for the two years

> > years I

> > > > was loyal to it)

> > > > 5. someone willing to liaise with a rehab worker on my behalf

> > (services

> > > out

> > > > of reach without a GP and a least a tentative diagnosis which

> > supports

> > > > needed resources, equipment and medical therapies not otherwise

> > covered)

> > > > 6. someone who will be sincere and direct

> > > > 7. someone who will involve me and treat me as a person not a

> > patient

> > > > 8. someone willing to do follow-up and monitoring, not just crisis

> > > management

> > > > 9. someone willing to discuss with my therapist when there are

> > doubt about

> > > > my mental status or about the past four years since he was the one

> > > > monitoring my symptoms and meds consistently

> > > >

> > > > Of course you'd have to change to suit your history etc. but you

> > get the

> > > > idea. Be clear what you need, and insistent. So far this is

> > working very

> > > > well for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > aletta mes

> > > > vancouver, bc Canada

> > > > web: http://aletta.0catch.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > > > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > > >

> > > > shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Pam,

He is near Anne (an hour or so drive as best I can tell) in Queensland, so they

are 15 hours ahead of EDT in the USA (14 ahead of you). Ipswich is just west of

Brisbane.

Take care, Bill Werre

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Pam Bower wrote:

> Bill in Oz... tell us what time zone you are in and what hours you are

> usually at your computer... we can try to arrange a convenient time to set

> up a chat with you. I believe our Sunday afternoon chat in North America is

> very early Monday morning in Australia (it would be about 8PM Greenich Mean

> Time I think) so we can try set up a special time just to chat with the

> folks downunder.

>

> Hugs,

> Pam

>

> Re: Belinda or Aletta

>

> Sorry I am getting people mixed up, that seems about right for me. Soory I

> can't respond to anything tonight, I have got to sleep. The Monitor kee[s

> disappearing in to a blur. I missed the chat, I dont know when they are

> occuring. I am very tired, Finished replacing the Big end bearings in our

> Landcruiser (with a lot of help from my son). I'm totally exhausted.

> I'll come back soon

> Love to you all, Bill Pilgrim

>

> Belinda: getting needs met

> > >

> > >

> > > > Belinda;

> > > > Once you're told you have something terminal it would be ABNORMAL

> > to not

> > > > think of what dying would be like. Of course, most of our

> > relatives and

> > > > family will make it something that they'd rather not speak of

> > (Ostrich

> > > > syndrome), but we need to, and while we still can. I have put it

> > in

> > > > writing and instructed my kids on how I want to die. Stipulating

> > at which

> > >

> > > > point in time I no longer want the intrusion and pain of heroic

> > life

> > > saving

> > > > measures. I'm a flower child of the sixties and to this day see

> > nothing

> > > > wrong with the responsible use of drugs to ease the pain of

> > living. It is

> > > > related to living, I do not believe death is painful, just the

> > parts

> > > > leading up to it. Pain killing drugs are humane, pain is

> > damaging, I

> > > don't

> > > > want a buzz, I'd just like not to have the intrusion and life

> > sucking

> > > pain,

> > > > because it makes me cranky, and tired and clouds the nice

> > thoughts I'd

> > > > rather be having. Talking about my fears and the decisions I

> > need to make

> > > > now are rarely possible with family and friends, that's where a

> > therapist

> > > > is a wonderful soothing prescence, someone who allows all your

> > thoughts to

> > > > expressed, that process makes it smaller manageable and

> > aknowledged.

> > > > Too often this North Amercian culture conditions women to be

> > treated with

> > > > less respect when it comes to suffering. For one thing girls

> > here are

> > > > supposed the make 'nice' be pleasant no matter what (encouraging

> > you to

> > > > suspend your feelings to please those of others), and

> > perplexingly also be

> > > > more demonstrative (hysterical) when it comes to emotions. This

> > is a very

> > > > counter-productive mindset. It conditions people to think

> > nothing is very

> > > > wrong with us when it is and requires us to emote only on queque

> > (well,

> > > not

> > > > me, I'm Eurotrash). If you are sleepwalking and having blackouts

> > (can't

> > > > remember how I got there), you are most likely sleep deprived.

> > Doctors

> > > are

> > > > very reluctant about sleep medication (could become

> > > > dependant//addicted). Insist on getting some help getting

> > sleep. Two

> > > > years ago I walked into my therapist's office (he's an MD) and

> > told him

> > > > simply he could give me something so I could sleep or I would

> > likely slit

> > > > my wrists. Unlike the more subtler discussions with my GP etc.

> > this got

> > > > results. I've been taking sleeping pills since which work. I

> > take no

> > > > higher dose than two years ago, and yes, I am dependant, because

> > I cannot

> > > > function when sleep deprived (especially cognitively). I'm

> > terminal for

> > > > Pete's sake I don't think possible addiction is a worst case

> > > > scenario. Since they expect drama, you may have to be dramatic,

> > and

> > > > insistent. Don't buy the anti-depressant bull either, those

> > never did me

> > > > any good, and have worse side-effect than the sleeping pills. If

> > getting

> > > > adequate, quality sleep does not improve your well-being, then

> > perhaps you

> > > > can ask a neuro to consider anti-convulsants (sleepwalking and

> > seizures

> > > can

> > > > be one and the same). Don't make nice, tell them exactly what

> > you want

> > > and

> > > > insist someone monitor your progress (it may take numerous

> > > > adjustments). It is your body, your life and your death go for

> > the 110%

> > > of

> > > > what is possible, that is dignity, quiet desperation is for

> > wussies.

> > > >

> > > > When I was actively looking for my new physician, I prepared a

> > handout of

> > > > what I wanted from a GP, I knew he would work out because he

> > accepted the

> > > > whole list, here it is, maybe someone else can use it:

> > > > 1. someone who truly believes I am ill and not feigning

> > > > 2. someone who ccan take into account my history of dance, and

> > training as

> > > > dance therapist, counselling and practicing yogal since birth

> > > > 3. someone who takes into account I took no prescription

> > medications from

> > > > age 22 until mid-thirties and only in dyer need

> > > > 4. someone who takes into account that I tried and remain loyal

> > to natural

> > > > healing practices, when it is effective and low risk (early years

> > with

> > > > fatigue used Chinese herbal teas including the dreaded ko-buch-hah

> > > mushroom

> > > > which fermented in dark tea on top of my fridge for the two years

> > years I

> > > > was loyal to it)

> > > > 5. someone willing to liaise with a rehab worker on my behalf

> > (services

> > > out

> > > > of reach without a GP and a least a tentative diagnosis which

> > supports

> > > > needed resources, equipment and medical therapies not otherwise

> > covered)

> > > > 6. someone who will be sincere and direct

> > > > 7. someone who will involve me and treat me as a person not a

> > patient

> > > > 8. someone willing to do follow-up and monitoring, not just crisis

> > > management

> > > > 9. someone willing to discuss with my therapist when there are

> > doubt about

> > > > my mental status or about the past four years since he was the one

> > > > monitoring my symptoms and meds consistently

> > > >

> > > > Of course you'd have to change to suit your history etc. but you

> > get the

> > > > idea. Be clear what you need, and insistent. So far this is

> > working very

> > > > well for me.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > aletta mes

> > > > vancouver, bc Canada

> > > > web: http://aletta.0catch.com

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If you do not wish to belong to shydrager, you may

> > > > unsubscribe by sending a blank email to

> > > >

> > > > shydrager-unsubscribe@y...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

So is this correct... 3PM Sunday in New York would be 6AM Monday in

Queensland?

Speaking of Oz... Is our cuddly koala bear all packed yet for the trip to

the land downunder?

Re: Chat time --> Bill P. in Oz

Pam,

He is near Anne (an hour or so drive as best I can tell) in Queensland, so

they

are 15 hours ahead of EDT in the USA (14 ahead of you). Ipswich is just

west of

Brisbane.

Take care, Bill Werre

[Guest guest]

So is this correct... 3PM Sunday in New York would be 6AM Monday in

Queensland?

Speaking of Oz... Is our cuddly koala bear all packed yet for the trip to

the land downunder?

Re: Chat time --> Bill P. in Oz

Pam,

He is near Anne (an hour or so drive as best I can tell) in Queensland, so

they

are 15 hours ahead of EDT in the USA (14 ahead of you). Ipswich is just

west of

Brisbane.

Take care, Bill Werre

[Guest guest]

Pam,

NO! Working feverishly to get out of here in about 26 hours. On my way out

the dor to get traveler's checks in Aussie dollars )

Bye, Bill

---------------

Pam Bower wrote:

> So is this correct... 3PM Sunday in New York would be 6AM Monday in

> Queensland?

>

> Speaking of Oz... Is our cuddly koala bear all packed yet for the trip to

> the land downunder?

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam.

I think we are GMT + 10 Hrs. (Eastern Standard time, for us) That would

make it about 4.00am if I am correct. I am often awake round about then, but

not intentionally. I go to the computer when ever I have time to spare. We

are trying to get ready to build our retirement home. I do half a days work

then I recover for a day or so (at the computer if possible, providing my

brain is not too adled - it seems to have become my escape mechanism). I

don't have a microphone on my computer right now. I gave it to my son so he

could chat with the friends he has found over the world. I must get another

soon.

Down-under Bill

Belinda: getting needs met

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > Belinda;

> > > > > Once you're told you have something terminal it would be ABNORMAL

> > > to not

> > > > > think of what dying would be like. Of course, most of our

> > > relatives and

> > > > > family will make it something that they'd rather not speak of

> > > (Ostrich

> > > > > syndrome), but we need to, and while we still can. I have put it

> > > in

> > > > > writing and instructed my kids on how I want to die. Stipulating

> > > at which

> > > >

> > > > > point in time I no longer want the intrusion and pain of heroic

> > > life

> > > > saving

> > > > > measures. I'm a flower child of the sixties and to this day see

> > > nothing

> > > > > wrong with the responsible use of drugs to ease the pain of

> > > living. It is

> > > > > related to living, I do not believe death is painful, just the

> > > parts

> > > > > leading up to it. Pain killing drugs are humane, pain is

> > > damaging, I

> > > > don't

> > > > > want a buzz, I'd just like not to have the intrusion and life

> > > sucking

> > > > pain,

> > > > > because it makes me cranky, and tired and clouds the nice

> > > thoughts I'd

> > > > > rather be having. Talking about my fears and the decisions I

> > > need to make

> > > > > now are rarely possible with family and friends, that's where a

> > > therapist

> > > > > is a wonderful soothing prescence, someone who allows all your

> > > thoughts to

> > > > > expressed, that process makes it smaller manageable and

> > > aknowledged.

> > > > > Too often this North Amercian culture conditions women to be

> > > treated with

> > > > > less respect when it comes to suffering. For one thing girls

> > > here are

> > > > > supposed the make 'nice' be pleasant no matter what (encouraging

> > > you to

> > > > > suspend your feelings to please those of others), and

> > > perplexingly also be

> > > > > more demonstrative (hysterical) when it comes to emotions. This

> > > is a very

> > > > > counter-productive mindset. It conditions people to think

> > > nothing is very

> > > > > wrong with us when it is and requires us to emote only on queque

> > > (well,

> > > > not

> > > > > me, I'm Eurotrash). If you are sleepwalking and having blackouts

> > > (can't

> > > > > remember how I got there), you are most likely sleep deprived.

> > > Doctors

> > > > are

> > > > > very reluctant about sleep medication (could become

> > > > > dependant//addicted). Insist on getting some help getting

> > > sleep. Two

> > > > > years ago I walked into my therapist's office (he's an MD) and

> > > told him

> > > > > simply he could give me something so I could sleep or I would

> > > likely slit

> > > > > my wrists. Unlike the more subtler discussions with my GP etc.

> > > this got

> > > > > results. I've been taking sleeping pills since which work. I

> > > take no

> > > > > higher dose than two years ago, and yes, I am dependant, because

> > > I cannot

> > > > > function when sleep deprived (especially cognitively). I'm

> > > terminal for

> > > > > Pete's sake I don't think possible addiction is a worst case

> > > > > scenario. Since they expect drama, you may have to be dramatic,

> > > and

> > > > > insistent. Don't buy the anti-depressant bull either, those

> > > never did me

> > > > > any good, and have worse side-effect than the sleeping pills. If

> > > getting

> > > > > adequate, quality sleep does not improve your well-being, then

> > > perhaps you

> > > > > can ask a neuro to consider anti-convulsants (sleepwalking and

> > > seizures

> > > > can

> > > > > be one and the same). Don't make nice, tell them exactly what

> > > you want

> > > > and

> > > > > insist someone monitor your progress (it may take numerous

> > > > > adjustments). It is your body, your life and your death go for

> > > the 110%

> > > > of

> > > > > what is possible, that is dignity, quiet desperation is for

> > > wussies.

> > > > >

> > > > > When I was actively looking for my new physician, I prepared a

> > > handout of

> > > > > what I wanted from a GP, I knew he would work out because he

> > > accepted the

> > > > > whole list, here it is, maybe someone else can use it:

> > > > > 1. someone who truly believes I am ill and not feigning

> > > > > 2. someone who ccan take into account my history of dance, and

> > > training as

> > > > > dance therapist, counselling and practicing yogal since birth

> > > > > 3. someone who takes into account I took no prescription

> > > medications from

> > > > > age 22 until mid-thirties and only in dyer need

> > > > > 4. someone who takes into account that I tried and remain loyal

> > > to natural

> > > > > healing practices, when it is effective and low risk (early years

> > > with

> > > > > fatigue used Chinese herbal teas including the dreaded ko-buch-hah

> > > > mushroom

> > > > > which fermented in dark tea on top of my fridge for the two years

> > > years I

> > > > > was loyal to it)

> > > > > 5. someone willing to liaise with a rehab worker on my behalf

> > > (services

> > > > out

> > > > > of reach without a GP and a least a tentative diagnosis which

> > > supports

> > > > > needed resources, equipment and medical therapies not otherwise

> > > covered)

> > > > > 6. someone who will be sincere and direct

> > > > > 7. someone who will involve me and treat me as a person not a

> > > patient

> > > > > 8. someone willing to do follow-up and monitoring, not just crisis

> > > > management

> > > > > 9. someone willing to discuss with my therapist when there are

> > > doubt about

> > > > > my mental status or about the past four years since he was the one

> > > > > monitoring my symptoms and meds consistently

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course you'd have to change to suit your history etc. but you

> > > get the

> > > > > idea. Be clear what you need, and insistent. So far this is

> > > working very

> > > > > well for me.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > aletta mes

> > > > > vancouver, bc Canada

> > > > > web: http://aletta.0catch.com

> > > > >

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