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hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type with protruding

jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ? i wanna have this surgery but

im afraid its costly . my jaws are really annoying to look at anyway . and how

long will the surgery take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end

after a few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must wear

braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces again for about 6

months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower jaws hiding behind my upper

jaws . i look really awful when i smile . so can you help me and answer what i

have asked you ? thank you so so so much

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Not sure about Singapore's surgery stats, but usually with this

surgery, (orthognathic) you need to wear braces 6-9 months in

advance and then at least 6 months after. The surgery itself is

about 5-6 hours at the most I believe, with a hospital stay

overnight..at least.. Then you are banded shut/wired shut or

splinted shut or a combination, for 5-6 more weeks after that. It's

not a quick procedure, but if you go through with it you can expect

to see the smile you want in a year. However, that last 6 months you

are in braces your jaw is already corrected, so you should

definitely see a difference there. Hope this helps!

> hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ? i

wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after a

few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must wear

braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces again

for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower jaws

hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile . so

can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so so

so much

>

>

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My surgeon and orthodontist both said they tell all their surgical

patients they could be wearing braces for 1 to 3 years both before

and after surgery, for a max of 6 years total. That's probably a

very conservative view, and many do not have to wear them for that

long (including myself - 17 months before surgery/about 8 months post-

op), but I'd rather be prepared for the worst, personally.

As for cost, the surgery alone was around 16k USD. Braces were

another 5k. My insurance covered nearly all the surgery, but not a

penny of the braces.

I won't tell you not to have the surgery for cosmetic reasons, but I

will caution you that the procedure has functional consequences. If

you have functional problems with your bite now, it might help, but

if you do not have funtional problems, you run the risk of developing

them as a result of your repositioned bone structure. If you have

healthy functioning jaw joints right now, just be aware of that

risk. Malfuntioning jaw joints are very painful and very hard to

fix. I know this from experience, though I had joint problems long

before my orthognathic surgery.

The whole process is very challening, both emotionally and

physically. I recommend that anyone thinking about this surgery try

to gather as much information as necessary before beginning the

process in order to make an informed decision about whether or not it

is right for you.

Good luck.

> > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ? i

> wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after a

> few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must wear

> braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

again

> for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower jaws

> hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile . so

> can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so so

> so much

> >

> >

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hey thanks . i do have great healthy jaws right now . really ? you mean after

the surgery my jaws will hurt ??!?! i only wanted the surgery because of

cosmetic reasons . but do you think its worth it just for that . plus the fact

that maybe i'll suffer after the surgery due to repositioning of bones structure

? you mean all those previously with perfect healthy jaws will have painful jaws

after surgery ? i'd like to talk to some of them with the same problems as me .

how can i find them ? =) thank you . you're a great help .

erinmklein@...> wrote:My surgeon and orthodontist both said they

tell all their surgical

patients they could be wearing braces for 1 to 3 years both before

and after surgery, for a max of 6 years total. That's probably a

very conservative view, and many do not have to wear them for that

long (including myself - 17 months before surgery/about 8 months post-

op), but I'd rather be prepared for the worst, personally.

As for cost, the surgery alone was around 16k USD. Braces were

another 5k. My insurance covered nearly all the surgery, but not a

penny of the braces.

I won't tell you not to have the surgery for cosmetic reasons, but I

will caution you that the procedure has functional consequences. If

you have functional problems with your bite now, it might help, but

if you do not have funtional problems, you run the risk of developing

them as a result of your repositioned bone structure. If you have

healthy functioning jaw joints right now, just be aware of that

risk. Malfuntioning jaw joints are very painful and very hard to

fix. I know this from experience, though I had joint problems long

before my orthognathic surgery.

The whole process is very challening, both emotionally and

physically. I recommend that anyone thinking about this surgery try

to gather as much information as necessary before beginning the

process in order to make an informed decision about whether or not it

is right for you.

Good luck.

> > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ? i

> wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after a

> few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must wear

> braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

again

> for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower jaws

> hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile . so

> can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so so

> so much

> >

> >

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'Tisn't, methinks, that everybody who had no pain before surgery will

have it later. 'Tisn't that everybody who had pain before surgery

will get it solved. 'Tisn't that everybody who had no pain before

surgery will have surgery and avoid pain later. It's that none of

this is a perfect science.

You look at the odds. You ask the questions about risks. And then you

figure out what you think is worth doing, with the advice of your

specialists. And if the cosmetic changes are important to you, factor

them in. If they are not, ignore them.

It (jaw trouble) can get better, or it can get worse. Your bite will

probably get a lot better. Your profile will probably get better. But

I don't think anybody can predict the rest of it.

So get the best opinions you can find, and then make up your own mind

about what you want/need to do.

gives good and measured advice, I think. There are no guarantees

for any of these procedures, except that the docs are experienced and

expert, and should be expected to do the best jobs they can for you.

Best wishes.

C.

[Guest guest]

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my purpose of

surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard from one of the

member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later when you reposition the

jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful . she said thats what happened to

her before the surgery . she had the surgery for a reason . but i think my

reason is kinda dumb . so im rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can

you tell me the total for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me

which place is the best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you ,

there are a lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if

you wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type " risks in

orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but im scared my jaw

bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to look at myself in the mirror

and that i'll look like a wicked witch . aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me . oonly

one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT !!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my purpose of

surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard from one of the

member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later when you reposition the

jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful . she said thats what happened to

her before the surgery . she had the surgery for a reason . but i think my

reason is kinda dumb . so im rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can

you tell me the total for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me

which place is the best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you ,

there are a lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if

you wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type " risks in

orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but im scared my jaw

bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to look at myself in the mirror

and that i'll look like a wicked witch . aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me . oonly

one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT !!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my purpose of

surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard from one of the

member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later when you reposition the

jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful . she said thats what happened to

her before the surgery . she had the surgery for a reason . but i think my

reason is kinda dumb . so im rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can

you tell me the total for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me

which place is the best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you ,

there are a lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if

you wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type " risks in

orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but im scared my jaw

bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to look at myself in the mirror

and that i'll look like a wicked witch . aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me . oonly

one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT !!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I can't say that you will have jaw problems after surgery; I can only

say that it is a risk that you would take in having the surgery.

It's very possible that you would not have any pain after surgery,

but no one can guarantee what your results would be - not even a

surgeon could do that. As Cammie says - this is not an exact science.

I, personally, would not have had the surgery for cosmetic reasons.

For me, all of the months in braces, the time in the hospital, the

long recovery and the financial cost would not have been worth

cosmetic benefits to me. I have had some cosmetic benefits as a

result of the surgery, but those were never my goal. I had horrible

muscle tension all over the left side of my head before my

operation. The muscles were trying to protect my arthritic left jaw

joint, but now that tension is much better, but my joint pain is much

worse. Still, I'd do it again if I had to. I'll probably have to

have open joint surgery at some point in the future to fix or remove

the cartilage disc in my left joint, but I'm hoping that my improved

bite will help make that procedure more successful when it comes to

that.

If you haven't already had a consultation with a surgeon, I highly

recommend that you do that. An oral surgeon will be able to answer

questions directly as they relate to you. Those of us at OSS1 can

only tell you what our personal experiences are, but a surgeon will

be much more equiped to tell you what you could expect from the

surgery.

Good luck.

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I can't say that you will have jaw problems after surgery; I can only

say that it is a risk that you would take in having the surgery.

It's very possible that you would not have any pain after surgery,

but no one can guarantee what your results would be - not even a

surgeon could do that. As Cammie says - this is not an exact science.

I, personally, would not have had the surgery for cosmetic reasons.

For me, all of the months in braces, the time in the hospital, the

long recovery and the financial cost would not have been worth

cosmetic benefits to me. I have had some cosmetic benefits as a

result of the surgery, but those were never my goal. I had horrible

muscle tension all over the left side of my head before my

operation. The muscles were trying to protect my arthritic left jaw

joint, but now that tension is much better, but my joint pain is much

worse. Still, I'd do it again if I had to. I'll probably have to

have open joint surgery at some point in the future to fix or remove

the cartilage disc in my left joint, but I'm hoping that my improved

bite will help make that procedure more successful when it comes to

that.

If you haven't already had a consultation with a surgeon, I highly

recommend that you do that. An oral surgeon will be able to answer

questions directly as they relate to you. Those of us at OSS1 can

only tell you what our personal experiences are, but a surgeon will

be much more equiped to tell you what you could expect from the

surgery.

Good luck.

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear War,

Unless you are in a dire situation (life threatening) or an accident that

breaks the jaw area it is very wise to forego having this type of surgery until

you have stopped growing. For my daughter this is the course of treatment that

was followed:

1) One year + before hoped for surgery - all four wisdom teeth were

removed. Some OS take them out at the same time as the surgery. Ours wanted

the bone healed for a year before jaw surgery.

2) Xrays taken of wrist growth plate and jaw length. These have special

names, ask your ortho or OS. By these xrays they can determine about how far

along you are before your growth plates close and no more growth is expected.

3) Braces on for 8 months before surgery. Everyone is different.

4) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see growth that has taken

place.

5) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see if any growth has

taken place. Our OS would not perform the surgery unless no growth had taken

place in the jaw area in the last 4-6 months and all the growth plates were

closed in the wrist.

6) Surgery.

7) At least 6 weeks recuperation before bones are healed.

8) Braces until teeth and bite are were they need to be.

9) Braces off and hopefully no more thinking about the bite, etc. We say

hopefully because there are no guarantees.

Best of good luck to you and may your decisions be wise.

Re: Re: questions .

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my purpose

of surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard from one of the

member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later when you reposition the

jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful . she said thats what happened to

her before the surgery . she had the surgery for a reason . but i think my

reason is kinda dumb . so im rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can

you tell me the total for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me

which place is the best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you ,

there are a lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if

you wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type " risks in

orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but im scared my jaw

bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to look at myself in the mirror

and that i'll look like a wicke! d witch . aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me . oonly

one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT !!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear War and Juli

My daughter is scheduled for surgery this summer. her braces have been

on for almost 2 years. she has stopped growing (age 15). boys keep

growing til they are about 21. No surgeon should/will do this surgery

until you have stopped growing.... we have had the same set of x-rays

etc as Juli's child. yesterday she had 2 wisdom teeth removed, gives me

a glimpse of what my summer will be like !!!. but she is not having her

surgery for cosmetic reasons... she will have both upper and lower jaws

done and her chin fixed. apparently after all the films were done the

doc said that her smile was also crooked ( not to my eye) and that as

long as they were fixing the bottom jaw we should fix the top and then

the chin has to be moved . so far the chin is not covered under my

insurance but he wil rite letters hoping to change their mind. the rest

of the bills are covered under our insurance, we have bCBS. hoping all

is well with everyone.

Re: Re: questions .

Dear War,

Unless you are in a dire situation (life threatening) or an accident

that breaks the jaw area it is very wise to forego having this type of

surgery until you have stopped growing. For my daughter this is the

course of treatment that was followed:

1) One year + before hoped for surgery - all four wisdom teeth were

removed. Some OS take them out at the same time as the surgery. Ours

wanted the bone healed for a year before jaw surgery.

2) Xrays taken of wrist growth plate and jaw length. These have

special names, ask your ortho or OS. By these xrays they can determine

about how far along you are before your growth plates close and no more

growth is expected.

3) Braces on for 8 months before surgery. Everyone is different.

4) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see growth that

has taken place.

5) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see if any growth

has taken place. Our OS would not perform the surgery unless no growth

had taken place in the jaw area in the last 4-6 months and all the

growth plates were closed in the wrist.

6) Surgery.

7) At least 6 weeks recuperation before bones are healed.

8) Braces until teeth and bite are were they need to be.

9) Braces off and hopefully no more thinking about the bite, etc.

We say hopefully because there are no guarantees.

Best of good luck to you and may your decisions be wise.

Re: Re: questions .

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my

purpose of surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard

from one of the member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later

when you reposition the jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful .

she said thats what happened to her before the surgery . she had the

surgery for a reason . but i think my reason is kinda dumb . so im

rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can you tell me the total

for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me which place is the

best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you , there are a

lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if you

wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type

" risks in orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but

im scared my jaw bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to

look at myself in the mirror and that i'll look like ! a wicke! d witch

.. aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me

.. oonly one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT

!!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear War and Juli

My daughter is scheduled for surgery this summer. her braces have been

on for almost 2 years. she has stopped growing (age 15). boys keep

growing til they are about 21. No surgeon should/will do this surgery

until you have stopped growing.... we have had the same set of x-rays

etc as Juli's child. yesterday she had 2 wisdom teeth removed, gives me

a glimpse of what my summer will be like !!!. but she is not having her

surgery for cosmetic reasons... she will have both upper and lower jaws

done and her chin fixed. apparently after all the films were done the

doc said that her smile was also crooked ( not to my eye) and that as

long as they were fixing the bottom jaw we should fix the top and then

the chin has to be moved . so far the chin is not covered under my

insurance but he wil rite letters hoping to change their mind. the rest

of the bills are covered under our insurance, we have bCBS. hoping all

is well with everyone.

Re: Re: questions .

Dear War,

Unless you are in a dire situation (life threatening) or an accident

that breaks the jaw area it is very wise to forego having this type of

surgery until you have stopped growing. For my daughter this is the

course of treatment that was followed:

1) One year + before hoped for surgery - all four wisdom teeth were

removed. Some OS take them out at the same time as the surgery. Ours

wanted the bone healed for a year before jaw surgery.

2) Xrays taken of wrist growth plate and jaw length. These have

special names, ask your ortho or OS. By these xrays they can determine

about how far along you are before your growth plates close and no more

growth is expected.

3) Braces on for 8 months before surgery. Everyone is different.

4) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see growth that

has taken place.

5) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see if any growth

has taken place. Our OS would not perform the surgery unless no growth

had taken place in the jaw area in the last 4-6 months and all the

growth plates were closed in the wrist.

6) Surgery.

7) At least 6 weeks recuperation before bones are healed.

8) Braces until teeth and bite are were they need to be.

9) Braces off and hopefully no more thinking about the bite, etc.

We say hopefully because there are no guarantees.

Best of good luck to you and may your decisions be wise.

Re: Re: questions .

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my

purpose of surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard

from one of the member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later

when you reposition the jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful .

she said thats what happened to her before the surgery . she had the

surgery for a reason . but i think my reason is kinda dumb . so im

rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can you tell me the total

for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me which place is the

best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you , there are a

lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if you

wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type

" risks in orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but

im scared my jaw bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to

look at myself in the mirror and that i'll look like ! a wicke! d witch

.. aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me

.. oonly one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT

!!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Jaleah had this procedure done for functional reasons only. She had braces

initially for four years then after 1.5 years with braces off, she had moved

significantly so that none of her teeth touched - no biting surfaces, hence, no

mastication was taking place so digestion was the pits. She was Utah's Junior

National Teenager for 2002-2003 so this definitely was not cosmetically done, we

just hope she will be reconciled to her 'new' looks when all the swelling is

gone! Her attitude is good so this should not be a problem - X (fingers

crossed!).

Our insurance would not pay anything! Ugh! Fortunately, our OS and ortho

were very reasonable and we had room in our home loan to refinance!

So happy for these youngins that doctors know to check for growth before

this horrendous surgery so the chance of having to do it again is minimal!

Keep us informed how your daughter does. Happy New Year, Juli

Re: Re: questions .

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my

purpose of surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard

from one of the member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later

when you reposition the jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful .

she said thats what happened to her before the surgery . she had the

surgery for a reason . but i think my reason is kinda dumb . so im

rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can you tell me the total

for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me which place is the

best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you , there are a

lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if you

wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type

" risks in orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but

im scared my jaw bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to

look at myself in the mirror and that i'll look like ! a wicke! d witch

. aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me

. oonly one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT

!!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Jaleah had this procedure done for functional reasons only. She had braces

initially for four years then after 1.5 years with braces off, she had moved

significantly so that none of her teeth touched - no biting surfaces, hence, no

mastication was taking place so digestion was the pits. She was Utah's Junior

National Teenager for 2002-2003 so this definitely was not cosmetically done, we

just hope she will be reconciled to her 'new' looks when all the swelling is

gone! Her attitude is good so this should not be a problem - X (fingers

crossed!).

Our insurance would not pay anything! Ugh! Fortunately, our OS and ortho

were very reasonable and we had room in our home loan to refinance!

So happy for these youngins that doctors know to check for growth before

this horrendous surgery so the chance of having to do it again is minimal!

Keep us informed how your daughter does. Happy New Year, Juli

Re: Re: questions .

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my

purpose of surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard

from one of the member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later

when you reposition the jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful .

she said thats what happened to her before the surgery . she had the

surgery for a reason . but i think my reason is kinda dumb . so im

rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can you tell me the total

for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me which place is the

best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you , there are a

lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if you

wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type

" risks in orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but

im scared my jaw bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to

look at myself in the mirror and that i'll look like ! a wicke! d witch

. aarghs !~ haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me

. oonly one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT

!!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

hi erin . thank you so so much . you're a great help . hmm .. now that you've

said . its somehow true . who on earth wanna waste money on surgery just for

cosmetic ? well .. me . anyhow , i think i'll consult a surgeon first . then

i'll see whats the next step after that . but last question , will the lower jaw

bones continue to grow or will it stop growing after a period of time ?

erinmklein@...> wrote:I can't say that you will have jaw problems

after surgery; I can only

say that it is a risk that you would take in having the surgery.

It's very possible that you would not have any pain after surgery,

but no one can guarantee what your results would be - not even a

surgeon could do that. As Cammie says - this is not an exact science.

I, personally, would not have had the surgery for cosmetic reasons.

For me, all of the months in braces, the time in the hospital, the

long recovery and the financial cost would not have been worth

cosmetic benefits to me. I have had some cosmetic benefits as a

result of the surgery, but those were never my goal. I had horrible

muscle tension all over the left side of my head before my

operation. The muscles were trying to protect my arthritic left jaw

joint, but now that tension is much better, but my joint pain is much

worse. Still, I'd do it again if I had to. I'll probably have to

have open joint surgery at some point in the future to fix or remove

the cartilage disc in my left joint, but I'm hoping that my improved

bite will help make that procedure more successful when it comes to

that.

If you haven't already had a consultation with a surgeon, I highly

recommend that you do that. An oral surgeon will be able to answer

questions directly as they relate to you. Those of us at OSS1 can

only tell you what our personal experiences are, but a surgeon will

be much more equiped to tell you what you could expect from the

surgery.

Good luck.

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

hi erin . thank you so so much . you're a great help . hmm .. now that you've

said . its somehow true . who on earth wanna waste money on surgery just for

cosmetic ? well .. me . anyhow , i think i'll consult a surgeon first . then

i'll see whats the next step after that . but last question , will the lower jaw

bones continue to grow or will it stop growing after a period of time ?

erinmklein@...> wrote:I can't say that you will have jaw problems

after surgery; I can only

say that it is a risk that you would take in having the surgery.

It's very possible that you would not have any pain after surgery,

but no one can guarantee what your results would be - not even a

surgeon could do that. As Cammie says - this is not an exact science.

I, personally, would not have had the surgery for cosmetic reasons.

For me, all of the months in braces, the time in the hospital, the

long recovery and the financial cost would not have been worth

cosmetic benefits to me. I have had some cosmetic benefits as a

result of the surgery, but those were never my goal. I had horrible

muscle tension all over the left side of my head before my

operation. The muscles were trying to protect my arthritic left jaw

joint, but now that tension is much better, but my joint pain is much

worse. Still, I'd do it again if I had to. I'll probably have to

have open joint surgery at some point in the future to fix or remove

the cartilage disc in my left joint, but I'm hoping that my improved

bite will help make that procedure more successful when it comes to

that.

If you haven't already had a consultation with a surgeon, I highly

recommend that you do that. An oral surgeon will be able to answer

questions directly as they relate to you. Those of us at OSS1 can

only tell you what our personal experiences are, but a surgeon will

be much more equiped to tell you what you could expect from the

surgery.

Good luck.

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

oh so you mean you sent your daughter for op is not because of cosmetic reasons

... and i dont understand the part " it is very wise to forego having this type

of surgery until you have stopped growing " when willl i stop ? one thing is that

, i would like to meet some people who did the op because of cosmetic reasons or

some who are considering to do just for that reason . thanks .

Juli thompsonfam@...> wrote:Dear War,

Unless you are in a dire situation (life threatening) or an accident that

breaks the jaw area it is very wise to forego having this type of surgery until

you have stopped growing. For my daughter this is the course of treatment that

was followed:

1) One year + before hoped for surgery - all four wisdom teeth were

removed. Some OS take them out at the same time as the surgery. Ours wanted

the bone healed for a year before jaw surgery.

2) Xrays taken of wrist growth plate and jaw length. These have special

names, ask your ortho or OS. By these xrays they can determine about how far

along you are before your growth plates close and no more growth is expected.

3) Braces on for 8 months before surgery. Everyone is different.

4) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see growth that has taken

place.

5) Xrays taken again 4 months after first set to see if any growth has

taken place. Our OS would not perform the surgery unless no growth had taken

place in the jaw area in the last 4-6 months and all the growth plates were

closed in the wrist.

6) Surgery.

7) At least 6 weeks recuperation before bones are healed.

8) Braces until teeth and bite are were they need to be.

9) Braces off and hopefully no more thinking about the bite, etc. We say

hopefully because there are no guarantees.

Best of good luck to you and may your decisions be wise.

Re: Re: questions .

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my purpose

of surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard from one of the

member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later when you reposition the

jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful . she said thats what happened to

her before the surgery . she had the surgery for a reason . but i think my

reason is kinda dumb . so im rethinking =( and the surgery is too costly ! can

you tell me the total for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can tell me

which place is the best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell you ,

there are a lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks . if

you wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type " risks in

orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but im scared my jaw

bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to look at myself in the mirror

and that i'll look like a wicke! d witch . aarghs !~

haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me . oonly

one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT !!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear War,

Correct. My daughter had this surgery for functional reasons. The

statement you do not understand means - do not have the surgery at all until

your doctor can see through xrays, measuring growth, etc., that you have a good

chance not to grow any more. Most men have finished growing by age 22, most

women have finished growing by age 16. By taking xrays of your wrist and your

jaw, and then taking the same xrays again in 4 to 6 months, the surgeon or

orthodontist can take measurements to see if you are still growing. On your

wrist growth plate xray, the doctor can actually see if your growth plate is

filled in or not and then tell you how much growth you have left to do. The

doctor can actually graph when you will be finished growing by taking these

xrays at intervals. None of this is completely accurate because there are some

that have a growth spurt later on in life - this is not normal though, so

usually by taking these xrays and 4-6 month intervals they can know pretty sure

if you have stopped growing or not. Hope this helps.

Re: Re: questions .

hello . oh i havent seen anyone yet though i was asked to see =p . my

purpose of surgery is for cosmetic only . what about you ? but i heard from one

of the member that if you have healthy jaws now , but later when you reposition

the jaws , it will be difficult ,in fact , painful . she said thats what

happened to her before the surgery . she had the surgery for a reason . but i

think my reason is kinda dumb . so im rethinking =( and the surgery is too

costly ! can you tell me the total for your upcoming surgery ? and maybe you can

tell me which place is the best to go for this problem ? thanks . and i can tell

you , there are a lot of risks . as a matter of fact , every surgery have risks

.. if you wanna know some examples of the risks , just go yahoo.com and type

" risks in orthognathic surgery " alot !!! im so so so afraid now . but im scared

my jaw bones will grow . so when im older im so scared to look at myself in the

mirror and that i'll look like ! a wicke! d witch . aarghs !~

haha

im glad to know that you're from singapore . had same problem with me .

oonly one fat minor problem . IM ONLY 15 ! WHERE CAN I FIND THOSE AMT !!

h2charn hydrogen@...> wrote:

Hi War,

I'm from Singapore and have similar problem with you as well

(protruding

upper jaw). Recently, I went to see Orth to correct my problem but to

my surprise, it's not so simple for my case. Orth said I've short

chin and even if I've my teeth corrected by braces, the result will

not be satisfactory. Therefore, he suggested me to see an OS.

I've seen 2 OS which recommended by him. Both OS have different

ways/methods to have my jaws corrected. 1st OS (National Dental

Centre - Dr Teh) Her methods was, she will move both my jaws. My

upper jaw backward and have a lower jaw advancement. This will cost

about S$ 3,000. Because I've very thin jaw bones, she said the

chances I will have a relaspe is very high. And it will defeat the

purpose of doing it. So she will do a detraction on both of my lower

jaw to make the jaw bones grow. (Each detraction cost approx.

S$1,500 and I need 2 of these thing). For this method operation time

is 5 hrs and I've to wear

the " thing " for 3 months before taking it out. Followed by braces for

another 6 months.

2nd OS (Mount E - Dr Winston Tan). His way to correct my jaws is to

move back my upper jaw and have a lower jaw advancement. I will have

total 8 Titanium plates on my jaws/mouth. He will bind my teeth for 2

weeks and will take it off in 6 weeks time. He will also over-

correct my jaw for prevention of relaspe in future. But he told me

even if I were to have a relaspe, the percentage is about 15%

different of my corrected jaws. - Eg. if he move 1cm of my lower jaw

forward, the most it will move back is approx. 1.5 mm. The cost of

this is approx. S$ 13,000 staying at hospital for 2days 3

night. Operation time is approx. 3 hrs.

For braces charges, mine is about S$4,000 for metal and S$4,700 for

ceremic. Need ot wear braces for 12-18 months, followed by jaw

surgery and lastly wear braces for another 6 months and I will have a

perfect set of teeth.

FYI, I'm still considering. But this sat, i will see them again. Cos'

I've got a few more questions to ask him after reading and know more

on this jaw surgery.

Disadvantage of this surgery is, lower chin might have temporary or

permanent numbness after the surgery. The rest he didn't say much.

But I would really like to know what other problems I will face

beside this. Any adviser??

Have you seen any orth or OS?? If so, could you tell me your cost and

the method they use on you.

P.S : Others who have their jaw corrected, will there be any side

effect, discomfort or pain after it's completely heal? Can we still

laugh, eat and talk normally like before?? Really need your helpful

advise.

Thanks!

Rgds,

h2charn

> > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those type

> > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these cost ?

i

> > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the surgery

> > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end after

a

> > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

wear

> > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> again

> > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

jaws

> > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i smile .

so

> > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

so

> > so much

> > >

> > >

> > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I never said it was a waste of money to have orthognathic surgery for

cosmetic reasons alone. I only said that I would not have had the

surgery for cosmetic reasons alone, especially now that I've been

through it and know what it's like. Please do not put words into my

mouth. I do not pass judgment on others whose cosmetic concerns

outweigh functional ones, but regardless of what your concerns are,

you are at a point where you would be best served to have a

consultation with a medical professional who can speak with you about

the specifics of your own case.

The growth issue is not about whether or not jaw bones will stop

growing. It's about the person undergoing the surgery to have

stopped growing before the surgery is performed. Think about it - if

you're still growing (as in the physical changes we all go through as

we age into adults), then your jaw bones are still growing too. If

your bones are still growing, then the doctor does't know what your

final size and shape will be from nature, so how can he/she preform

the best surgical repositioning of bones that will still change via

natural growth on their own after surgery?

I sincerely do wish you the best, but strongly advise you to consult

a medical professional regarding your specific case.

> > > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those

type

> > > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these

cost ?

> i

> > > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the

surgery

> > > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end

after

> a

> > > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

> wear

> > > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> > again

> > > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

> jaws

> > > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i

smile .

> so

> > > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

> so

> > > so much

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I never said it was a waste of money to have orthognathic surgery for

cosmetic reasons alone. I only said that I would not have had the

surgery for cosmetic reasons alone, especially now that I've been

through it and know what it's like. Please do not put words into my

mouth. I do not pass judgment on others whose cosmetic concerns

outweigh functional ones, but regardless of what your concerns are,

you are at a point where you would be best served to have a

consultation with a medical professional who can speak with you about

the specifics of your own case.

The growth issue is not about whether or not jaw bones will stop

growing. It's about the person undergoing the surgery to have

stopped growing before the surgery is performed. Think about it - if

you're still growing (as in the physical changes we all go through as

we age into adults), then your jaw bones are still growing too. If

your bones are still growing, then the doctor does't know what your

final size and shape will be from nature, so how can he/she preform

the best surgical repositioning of bones that will still change via

natural growth on their own after surgery?

I sincerely do wish you the best, but strongly advise you to consult

a medical professional regarding your specific case.

> > > > hi . im War War Ye Myint from Singapore . im one of those

type

> > > with protruding jaws . i wondering how much will all these

cost ?

> i

> > > wanna have this surgery but im afraid its costly . my jaws are

> > > really annoying to look at anyway . and how long will the

surgery

> > > take ? will the surgery takes a long time ? or will it end

after

> a

> > > few days ? because i read in a magazine that firstly you must

> wear

> > > braces for 9-18months then go for the surgery then wear braces

> > again

> > > for about 6 months . THAT LONG ?!?!? im dying to see my lower

> jaws

> > > hiding behind my upper jaws . i look really awful when i

smile .

> so

> > > can you help me and answer what i have asked you ? thank you so

> so

> > > so much

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Join the Yahoo! Search Contest

> > > > - Stand a chance to win prizes!

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Amen, . And if you don't get along with the first medico you try,

ask another. If you can't get along with ANY of them, they may not be

the problem, and you need to think some more. But I'll bet you can

find someone you can work with pretty easily and successfully, if you

can manage the financial and emotional aspects of all this.

Cammie

> I never said it was a waste of money to have orthognathic surgery

for

> cosmetic reasons alone. I only said that I would not have had the

> surgery for cosmetic reasons alone, especially now that I've been

> through it and know what it's like. Please do not put words into

my

> mouth. I do not pass judgment on others whose cosmetic concerns

> outweigh functional ones, but regardless of what your concerns are,

> you are at a point where you would be best served to have a

> consultation with a medical professional who can speak with you

about

> the specifics of your own case.

>

> The growth issue is not about whether or not jaw bones will stop

> growing. It's about the person undergoing the surgery to have

> stopped growing before the surgery is performed. Think about it -

if

> you're still growing (as in the physical changes we all go through

as

> we age into adults), then your jaw bones are still growing too. If

> your bones are still growing, then the doctor does't know what your

> final size and shape will be from nature, so how can he/she preform

> the best surgical repositioning of bones that will still change via

> natural growth on their own after surgery?

>

> I sincerely do wish you the best, but strongly advise you to

consult

> a medical professional regarding your specific case.

>

>