Colonics anyone?

August 1, 2001

Hi! I would just like to know if anyone has tried colonics, what was it

like, did it improve their rosacea or acne. It's something I'm

considering, but the procedure does not look pleasant!! so I'd like to know

if its actually been beneficial for anyone and anything that I might need

to consider before going into this.

Thanks

At 09:39 AM 8/1/01 +0000, you wrote:

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>Topics in this digest:

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> 1. Those who've had photoderm

> From: elizabethjill2@...

> 2. can accutane clear redness???

> From: irishlad_6@...

> 3. To: Sheila, Re: Wheat/sugar/dairy free diet

> From: annmarie.wilson@...

> 4. Re: Inducing flush before photoderm

> From: anreid@...

> 5. No inhibitors

> From: Ann1456@...

> 6. toner stuff

>

> 7. i'm new...help!!!!

>

> 8. Please tell me what you think(photoderm)

> From: sharp@...

> 9. Insurance Company Morons!!

> From: dklein1016@...

> 10. New Vitamins - KAL

>

> 11. Here is the website to buy cheapest

>

> 12. Re: Please tell me what you think(photoderm)

> From: anreid@...

> 13. Re: No inhibitors

> From: ruizdelvizo@...

> 14. Re: Please tell me what you think(photoderm)

> From: ruizdelvizo@...

> 15. To: Sheila, Re: Wheat/sugar/dairy free diet

> From: ruizdelvizo@...

> 16. My Accutane Report -- One Month

>

> 17. Advice Please

> From: sandyseapath@...

> 18. Re: i'm new...help!!!!

>

> 19. Photoderm in NYC

> From: at4617@...

> 20. New Laser for Acne Scars

> From: ruizdelvizo@...

> 21. Re: New Laser for Acne Scars

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>Message: 1

> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:06:47 -0000

> From: elizabethjill2@...

>Subject: Those who've had photoderm

>

>How soon after treatments is your skin back to its normal state? How

>soon can you go back to wearing makeup, etc? If you had any adverse

>reactions, how soon after treatment? Thanks!

>

>JE

>

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>Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:45:06 -0000

> From: irishlad_6@...

>Subject: can accutane clear redness???

>

>Hi

>I have been prescribed low dose accutane 5mg per day by my derm. I

>had read in dr nase book that long term very low dose accutane can be

>quite benefical at clearing the redness. I though great, i'll try

>this. However i am now terrifed to take it after reading some of the

>horror stories posted in here(in 1 case they were only on 10mgs per

>week and had a very bad reaction to it). I have a permanent red

>cheeks and nose which in the morning isn't bad really but by the end

>of the day it tends to be alot redder and of course when i flush,

>which is frequent, it's awful, my nose slightly swells and has an

>oily appearence but this isn't too often. However i never ever get

>spots/pimples but my skin is very dry(use moisturiser most days on my

>face and i'm a guy plus i always use lip balm) espically in the

>winter which is why i was hoping to start the accutane now.

>Please could people who have tried very low dose accutane for facial

>redness tell me how they reacted when on accutane. There are so many

>conflicting stories in here. I know everyone reacts differently but

>many people here fail to state what exact dosage they were on and for

>how long. Also should i take 5mg per or should i take it every other

>day, my derm prescribed me the 5mg dosage. Anyway i'd be very

>grateful if anyone could help. Cheers

>

>One very confused irish guy!

>

>P.s Is grape seed extract the same as grapefruit seed extract??

>

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>Message: 3

> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:11:59 -0000

> From: annmarie.wilson@...

>Subject: To: Sheila, Re: Wheat/sugar/dairy free diet

>

>Oops! Don't know what happened to my last post! But you should try

>Carol Vodermans 28 day Detox plan diet (she's a UK personality).

>It's in a video format and it really works! (lost 9lbs in 14 days!)

>Only catch is... it is REALLY REALLY hard to stick to! I defy anyone

>to stick to it for longer than 2 weeks. My skin looked fabulous (I

>hadn't been diagnosed with cea then, although I'd just had a baby)

>It has a really useful section on supplements and a product called

>Udo's Oil was mentioned. I'm sure I've heard of that on a 'cea'

>board, the problem is that it seems to be sold out everywhere.

>Sheila, I hope this helps. I am currently in the process of setting

>up a website just concentrating on covering up the cosmetic

>appearance of cea. I am collecting tips to put on the site and

>am also researching menus, living without wheat, sugar and and dairy

>products is hard!

>

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>Message: 4

> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:27:03 -0000

> From: anreid@...

>Subject: Re: Inducing flush before photoderm

>

>If you're in the UK or the US, Nioxin (which Dr. Bitter uses) is

>available over the web, from:

>

>http://www.salonlines.co.uk/index.html?target=about.html.

>

>The exact product is Nioxin Bionutrient Treatment 2.

>

>In the US I believe it is widely available. It works in about 10

>minutes.

>

>.

>

> > Hi,

> > On friday I'm going to have my 3rd ph treatment, and I know that I

> > should induce a flush. I read that niacin is the best, but in my

> > country topical niacin is not available. I can't induce the flush

>by

> > alcohol or something else much earlier, cos the doc want to se the

> > results from the past treatments first.

> > So I should be there as pale as possible and then after he sees my

> > condition I should induce flush. I don't want to slap my face in

>the

> > treating room .

> > I think that niacin is the same as nicotinic acid and vitaminum b3.

> > Both are available orally ie. nicotinic acid 0,25g pills. Enyone

>ever

> > induced flush with oral niacin? What dosage and how long before the

> > treatment should I take?

> > Or maybe you have some other ideas/experiences to induce deep flush

> > quite fast, without making the doc thinking strange about me?

> >

> > thx

>

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>Message: 5

> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:50:50 EDT

> From: Ann1456@...

>Subject: No inhibitors

>

> Hi Group, I as well am very interested in hearing alot more about

>these

>inhibitors. I have emailed my photoderm doctor this morning asking him if he

>would

>also be interested in participating in this trial. However, he just happens

>to know doc

>Nase, therefore, we have discussed this new tx awhile ago during a recent tx

>I was

>having. I have also called my dermatoligist here in my town and will also

>phone a few of the others that I have been to in the past to see if they also

>would be interested.

>My question to the group however, is there another website I can tell them

>about to

>get further information on these inhibitors? I already have told my photoderm

>doc to go to doc Nase's website at www.drnase.com I only hope that was the

>correct site.

>PLEASE anyone who could give me further details I would appreciate very much.

>

>I have no doubt whatsoever that most of the doctors I have been to in the

>past

>would be very interested in trying these incredible new inhibitors. Please

>let me know

>more what to discuss with these physicians when they return my call. My derm

>here in my town will be calling me back around 10:00 AM this morning eastern

>time, so the sooner group, the better.

>

>Thanks so much,

>Ann1456@...

>

>PS I will definitely continue doing my part also.

>

August 1, 2001

,

Unless you are 120% confident in the technician's

ability to sterilize their equipment, you don't want

to do this.

Colonics have been around the alt. health world

forever (Road to Wellville, anyone?), but a couple of

years ago there was a lot of press about them when

they became popular with size-2 Hollywood actresses

who wanted to (temporarily) make their tiny tummies

tinier. Several women's magazines ran articles on the

(ghastly) possibilites of contaimination. Please don't

ask me to cite my sources on this, but I do

remember...

My number one suggestion remains the same -- explore

all of your own (personal -- not the group's!) dietary

quirks and take measures to heal your gut through

really good nutrition with healing foods and herbs...

a colonic can't replace any of that. In fact, if you

don't make the basic lifestyle changes, it can't do

you any good in the long run.

Suzi

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August 1, 2001

,

Unless you are 120% confident in the technician's

ability to sterilize their equipment, you don't want

to do this.

Colonics have been around the alt. health world

forever (Road to Wellville, anyone?), but a couple of

years ago there was a lot of press about them when

they became popular with size-2 Hollywood actresses

who wanted to (temporarily) make their tiny tummies

tinier. Several women's magazines ran articles on the

(ghastly) possibilites of contaimination. Please don't

ask me to cite my sources on this, but I do

remember...

My number one suggestion remains the same -- explore

all of your own (personal -- not the group's!) dietary

quirks and take measures to heal your gut through

really good nutrition with healing foods and herbs...

a colonic can't replace any of that. In fact, if you

don't make the basic lifestyle changes, it can't do

you any good in the long run.

Suzi

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August 2, 2001

We need to be careful with some advice. Colonics ARE required for some

people. My father, for instance, needed to be screened for colon cancer and