Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 > Dear List, > > I'm new here...so I may be missing it...but, has Dr. Nase or Dr. Sy > discussed topical Vitamin-K creams....? If so, where can I find it? > I have Dr. Nase's book..and I don't see it there. If they haven't > commented on them, please offer your experiences. > > Thanks...Sallie Sallie, I've been hearing about this stuff too so I asked at the pharmacy about it. The pharmacist didn't know anything about it either but gave me this information in case I decide to order it: Natraklear Cream 50g 01732866 686 (Nutralife UK) I haven't checked with the company yet to see how expensive it is, but if it's reasonably priced I may order it this week. This information is for the UK obviously but Nutralife may have a US division as well. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 Dr. Nase did discuss Vitamin K creams in one of his earlier messages to this group. He suggested Lighten Up by Avon. I also looked up the Vita-K spider vein product which someone suggested a few days ago, and it's on: http://www.walgreens.com Just do a search on Vita-K, and it should come up. Take care, Matija > > Dear List, > > > > I'm new here...so I may be missing it...but, has Dr. Nase or Dr. Sy > > discussed topical Vitamin-K creams....? If so, where can I find > it? > > I have Dr. Nase's book..and I don't see it there. If they haven't > > commented on them, please offer your experiences. > > > > Thanks...Sallie > > Sallie, I've been hearing about this stuff too so I asked at the > pharmacy about it. The pharmacist didn't know anything about it > either but gave me this information in case I decide to order it: > > Natraklear Cream 50g > 01732866 686 > (Nutralife UK) > > I haven't checked with the company yet to see how expensive it is, but > if it's reasonably priced I may order it this week. This information > is for the UK obviously but Nutralife may have a US division as well. > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 I'm interested to hear about this too. sjmcken@... wrote: > Dear List, > > I'm new here...so I may be missing it...but, has Dr. Nase or Dr. Sy > discussed topical Vitamin-K creams....? If so, where can I find it? > I have Dr. Nase's book..and I don't see it there. If they haven't > commented on them, please offer your experiences. > > Thanks...Sallie > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 Another couple of products, available in the US, are Vita K Solution (I use and have good experiences with the Spider Vein formula), and Lighten Up eye cream from Avon. I think Vita K has more K in it and it costs less.... And someone mentioned a product by just the other day.... (try looking up vitamin k/Vita K in the archive for more info, since it's been written about quite a bit just in the past few weeks.....) Dayle > > Message: 22 > Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 00:04:51 -0000 > From: ucgaljm@... > Subject: Re: Vitamin K > > > > Dear List, > > > > I'm new here...so I may be missing it...but, has Dr. Nase or Dr. Sy > > discussed topical Vitamin-K creams....? If so, where can I find > it? > > I have Dr. Nase's book..and I don't see it there. If they haven't > > commented on them, please offer your experiences. > > > > Thanks...Sallie > > Sallie, I've been hearing about this stuff too so I asked at the > pharmacy about it. The pharmacist didn't know anything about it > either but gave me this information in case I decide to order it: > > Natraklear Cream 50g > 01732866 686 > (Nutralife UK) > > I haven't checked with the company yet to see how expensive it is, but > if it's reasonably priced I may order it this week. This information > is for the UK obviously but Nutralife may have a US division as well. > > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 Hi Sallie, I said in a previous message that Dr. Nase wrote about the use of Vitamin K on rosacean skin. However, I didn't have the time to track down the exact message. I did find it finally, and here is a link to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/2041 Hope that helps. Take care, Matija > > > Dear List, > > > > > > I'm new here...so I may be missing it...but, has Dr. Nase or Dr. Sy > > > discussed topical Vitamin-K creams....? If so, where can I find > > it? > > > I have Dr. Nase's book..and I don't see it there. If they haven't > > > commented on them, please offer your experiences. > > > > > > Thanks...Sallie > > > > Sallie, I've been hearing about this stuff too so I asked at the > > pharmacy about it. The pharmacist didn't know anything about it > > either but gave me this information in case I decide to order it: > > > > Natraklear Cream 50g > > 01732866 686 > > (Nutralife UK) > > > > I haven't checked with the company yet to see how expensive it is, but > > if it's reasonably priced I may order it this week. This information > > is for the UK obviously but Nutralife may have a US division as well. > > > > Jane > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support- unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 Hi Sallie, I said in a previous message that Dr. Nase wrote about the use of Vitamin K on rosacean skin. However, I didn't have the time to track down the exact message. I did find it finally, and here is a link to it: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/2041 Hope that helps. Take care, Matija > > > Dear List, > > > > > > I'm new here...so I may be missing it...but, has Dr. Nase or Dr. Sy > > > discussed topical Vitamin-K creams....? If so, where can I find > > it? > > > I have Dr. Nase's book..and I don't see it there. If they haven't > > > commented on them, please offer your experiences. > > > > > > Thanks...Sallie > > > > Sallie, I've been hearing about this stuff too so I asked at the > > pharmacy about it. The pharmacist didn't know anything about it > > either but gave me this information in case I decide to order it: > > > > Natraklear Cream 50g > > 01732866 686 > > (Nutralife UK) > > > > I haven't checked with the company yet to see how expensive it is, but > > if it's reasonably priced I may order it this week. This information > > is for the UK obviously but Nutralife may have a US division as well. > > > > Jane > > > > -- > > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support- unsubscribe@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 > My question was more about the efficacy of vitamin-K. Hi Sallie, My doctor doesn't know anything about it and I don't know anyone who's used it, so I did a Medline search for scientific papers, using the keywords " vitamin K " and " topical " . This turned up only one paper, which I've appended to the end of this email (just the abstract, but it's quite long). In this paper the researchers used 5 different formulations of vitamin K - some also containing different proportions of retinol and some not - to test their effects on fading laser-induced skin discoloration, and found that 1% vitamin K and 0.3% retinol in acrylates copolymer cream aided in the fading of these spots over a period of two weeks or so. I don't have the paper itself to hand so I don't know how well the vitamin K creams without retinol performed, or what the effects of a retinol-only cream would have been. It's also worth keeping in mind that this experiment was undertaken to test effects on laser-induced discolorations rather than that associated with rosacea, although I guess if the underlying physiology of both problems are similar then the vitamin K cream should work for rosaceans as well. Maybe someone else on the list can comment on that aspect? Anyway, I've checked around on the internet for Vitamin K creams and they don't seem too expensive, so I'm probably going to order some and have a go. I'll let you know what happens. Cheers, Jane ********************************************************************** ******************* Effects of topical vitamin K and retinol on laser-induced purpura on nonlesional skin Lou WW, Quintana AT, Geronemus RG, Grossman MC DERMATOLOGIC SURGERY 25 (12): 942-944 DEC 1999 Abstract: BACKGROUND. Pulsed dye laser treatments usually result in purpura. Any topical application that eliminates or shortens the duration of purpura would be extremely useful. OBJECTIVE. The purpose of this prospective study was to determine the safety and efficacy of topical vitamin K cream in shortening the duration of laser-induced purpura. METHODS. Twenty adult subjects were enrolled. Each subject had five 1.5 cm sites treated with a pulsed dye laser at 585 nm, 450 nsec, 7 mm spot size at each subject's respective threshold fluence. Each subject had a control site where no topical application was used and four other sites where a different formulation was applied to each for 2 weeks before and for 2 weeks after laser irradiation. Five vitamin K formulations with or without retinol were studied: 3% vitamin K in acrylates copolymer cream, 5% vitamin It in acrylates copolymer cream, 1% vitamin It and 0.3% retinol in acrylates copolymer cream, 1% vitamin It and 0.15% retinol in acrylates copolymer cream, 1% free vitamin It cream. Purpuric discoloration at each site was rated on days 0, 1, 3, 7, 10, and 14 after laser treatment on a quartile scale. Each site was assigned 100% discoloration on day 0 after laser irradiation. RESULTS. Laser-induced purpuric discoloration resolved faster with 1% vitamin It and 0.3% retinol in acrylates copolymer cream than with no topical application. The difference is statistically significant from day 3 onward. CONCLUSION. A combination of 1% vitamin It and 0.3% retinol in acrylates copolymer cream hastened the resolution of laser-induced purpura. Addresses: Lou WW, Laser & Skin Surg Ctr New York, 317 East 34th St,11N, New York, NY 10016 USA Laser & Skin Surg Ctr New York, New York, NY 10016 USA NYU Med Ctr, Dept Dermatol, New York, NY 10016 USA Cornell Med Ctr, Dept Dermatol, Ithaca, NY USA Publisher: BLACKWELL SCIENCE INC, MALDEN IDS Number: 265HH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 In a message dated 09/04/2001 8:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rosacea-support writes: Hi Sallie, I bought the vitamin K cream for spider veins a couple of days ago at a local drugstore. Eckerd Drugs. I don't know how it will work, but will post with results. Elena >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2001 Report Share Posted September 12, 2001 In a message dated 09/04/2001 8:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rosacea-support writes: Hi Sallie, I bought the vitamin K cream for spider veins a couple of days ago at a local drugstore. Eckerd Drugs. I don't know how it will work, but will post with results. Elena >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 > i have a product by that I use sometimes. > it does make my face less red, but it's heavier > than i really need - and, if i use it more than > a > few days in a row it seems to irritate. i was > thinking of looking to see if they made a > lighter > version > > carrie > > > --- johnrd33 jdavis@...> wrote: > > Anyone tried a vitamin K cream on their face? > I > > decided I'd try a > > store-bought brand that is used to fade > spider > > veins. It doesn't say > > anything about using it on the face, but I've > > seen vitamin K creams > > for sale on the Internet that are supposed to > > help reduce facial > > redness. > > > > Oddly, the stuff I bought says you have to > > continue using it once a > > day forever to maintain the results, but I > used > > St. Ives Dark Circle > > Diminisher (also a vitamin K treatment) for > > under my eyes, and not > > only did it work great on the dark circles, > it > > was a permanent > > improvement. Maybe because the dark circles > are > > actually bruises, and > > not active blood vessels? > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2001 Report Share Posted December 27, 2001 > i have a product by that I use sometimes. > it does make my face less red, but it's heavier > than i really need - and, if i use it more than > a > few days in a row it seems to irritate. i was > thinking of looking to see if they made a > lighter > version > > carrie > > > --- johnrd33 jdavis@...> wrote: > > Anyone tried a vitamin K cream on their face? > I > > decided I'd try a > > store-bought brand that is used to fade > spider > > veins. It doesn't say > > anything about using it on the face, but I've > > seen vitamin K creams > > for sale on the Internet that are supposed to > > help reduce facial > > redness. > > > > Oddly, the stuff I bought says you have to > > continue using it once a > > day forever to maintain the results, but I > used > > St. Ives Dark Circle > > Diminisher (also a vitamin K treatment) for > > under my eyes, and not > > only did it work great on the dark circles, > it > > was a permanent > > improvement. Maybe because the dark circles > are > > actually bruises, and > > not active blood vessels? > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2001 Report Share Posted December 29, 2001 > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 23:50:17 -0000 > > Subject: Vitamin K > > Anyone tried a vitamin K cream on their face? Yes, several of us, I think. Try searching for Vitamin K, and/or VitaK Solution, in the list archives. I've been using a variety of Vitamin K products since I first heard about it nearly ten years ago. Since I tried the first topical Vit K product years ago (awful texture, dried my skin), lots more have come on the market with much better skin feel. For awhile I used the Avon undereye product, but I now mostly use something called VitaK Solution for spider veins (they have a number of versions for specific uses), which the president of the company told me was the most effective, and fine for the face. It hasn't irritated me at all. I decided I'd try a > store-bought brand that is used to fade spider veins. It doesn't say > anything about using it on the face, but I've seen vitamin K creams > for sale on the Internet that are supposed to help reduce facial > redness. > > Oddly, the stuff I bought says you have to continue using it once a > day forever to maintain the results, but I used St. Ives Dark Circle > Diminisher (also a vitamin K treatment) for under my eyes, and not > only did it work great on the dark circles, it was a permanent > improvement. Maybe because the dark circles are actually bruises, and > not active blood vessels? Probably so. I have to keep using the creams to maintain results. But I must admit that I use it for awhile, then stop when the red and veins disappear, then start again when they come back. It works fairly quickly for me, but I cannot speak for anyone else. I've recently been looking for Vitamin K creams in health food/vitamin stores, and have found several varieties. I may try another one day, just to test it out...but I am quite happy with the VitaK Solution. dayle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2002 Report Share Posted August 23, 2002 > My symptoms of k deficiency , other than abnormal bleeding times, elevated liver enzymes, and a drop in total serum calcium levels.. are spontaneous bruising. Vitamin K is also needed to properly use and maintain your calcium levels and prevent osteoporosis. >> something like 70% of 'us' have elevated liver enzymes. about 2yr. ago I found out I had them and did research and a survey and it was amazing I thought at how many have them between about 18mo. and 5yr. seems to be a direct result of our new plumbing. I started taking milk thistle and it brought my numbers way down to near normal on the liver panel. thanks for the info on K though - very important. sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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