Guest guest Posted August 4, 2001 Report Share Posted August 4, 2001 eve, i was a major sufferer of both for most of my teenage years and early twenties. I never put the connection together but now that you mention it it totally clicks with me. My migraines finally got under control with help from blood pressure medicine...since being on the medicine the flushing has almost stopped. It really seems amazing to me. Just wanted to share. At 11:02 PM 08/03/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Hi there! What a terrific group of people this is and how glad I am to have >found it! > >I was curious to know if any others of you suffer from both rosacea and >migraines. I've been puttering along with topical treatments for rosacea >for a couple three years now, and have suffered the occasional migraine >during that time. But in the last few months, I've been having horrible >problems with flushing and swelling of my face, ears (that's a first for >me), and along with that has come four migraines. I'm going to see both my >MD and my derm asap, but I have a strong suspicion that there may be a >connection, since both are related to vascular disfunction. Though in the >case of migraine, there is some thinking now that the migraine actually >causes the vasodilation, rather than the other way around. > >I'm also trying some herbal remedies - I always like to try that first. So >far I'm not seeing my symptoms respond to use of grape seed & ester C, or >feverfew, or butcher's broom, or St. 's Wort. Next on my list of things >to try is shepherd's purse - it's a vasoconstrictor, and said to be as >effective as ergotamine (which is used to control migraines). That and the >elimination diet - and after that I'm going to have to look for other >options. :-) > >As has been said before, different things work for different people. I sure >appreciate everyone's willingness to share their experiences. Thanks! > >~Eve > > > >-- >Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group >(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > >See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > >To leave the list send an email to >rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2001 Report Share Posted August 4, 2001 For many years I suffered from migraines and took many kinds of medication, including big does of NSAIDS (ibuprofen), tylenol with codeine, percodan, muscle relaxants, and beta-blockers, inderol, which is used for high-blood pressure and flushing as well. The cycle always looked like this: Flushing face, ringing or buzzing in my ears, a disjointed feeling, sometimes a little feeling of stiffness in my neck or jaw, and finally the BIG HEADACHE. Intestingly enough the headache was usually accompanied by constipation, which eased up as the headache was ending... Alternatively, sometimes I woke up during the night, or in the morning with the headache already in full swing... The best part was the endorphin " high " that left me relaxed and giggly when the headache ended (sometimes a day or more later). About seven years ago, I realized that tomatoes and their biological relatives (the " nightshades " -- tomatoes, potatoes, onions, eggplant, peppers) could set off this cycle, so I quit eating them (especially raw). I also knew that beer could trigger an episode, and realized it wasn't the alcohol when I drank a non-alcholic beer while pregnant and got one major headache (and couldn't take anything that had worked in the past!). My headaches and flushing reduced in number, but never really disappeared... When my biggest rosacea outbreak started this past fall, and continued through winter, the digestive connection because even more pronounced (I've written about this and it's in the archives). I finally realized that wheat/gluten were at the source of my troubles. When I gave them up, the flushing stopped, my skin cleared up, my digestive complaints when away, and I haven't had a headache of any significance since I gave up gluten in April. Please understand this -- I'm not implying that gluten is causing your headaches, but I do believe this: cea patterns that encompass flushing, ringing in the ears, breakouts, and headache seem to be (by my observation) more likely to be caused by allergy than is the chronically-red pattern of rosacea. The hard part is figuring out what is setting you off. Elminating it is really easy. When people ask me if I find it hard to avoid gluten (and the nightshades), I always say " not hardly! " . Moving away from pain and toward pleasure is completely natural. I wouldn't willingly do something I knew might give skin breakouts, itchy rashes, digestive upsets, and headaches. It's a no-brainer, and certainly no tradeoff for something that " tastes good " . Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2001 Report Share Posted August 5, 2001 I read an interesting e-mail (possibly on this site?) from a doctor who specialises in treating migraines. She said something along the lines of: she had discovered that some sufferers would experience very cold hands and/or feet not long before they got an attack. This was because the blood supply was literally moving away from the extremities to the head - causing the migraine. She adivised sufferers to watch out for these warning signs and to start rubbing their hands together to get the circulation going again and also drawing the blood away from the head. I don't know if this would help you - do you get the cold hands and feet? regards . Suzi LeBaron wrote: > For many years I suffered from migraines and took many > kinds of medication, including big does of NSAIDS > (ibuprofen), tylenol with codeine, percodan, muscle > relaxants, and beta-blockers, inderol, which is used > for high-blood pressure and flushing as well. > > The cycle always looked like this: Flushing face, > ringing or buzzing in my ears, a disjointed feeling, > sometimes a little feeling of stiffness in my neck or > jaw, and finally the BIG HEADACHE. Intestingly enough > the headache was usually accompanied by constipation, > which eased up as the headache was ending... > > Alternatively, sometimes I woke up during the night, > or in the morning with the headache already in full > swing... > > The best part was the endorphin " high " that left me > relaxed and giggly when the headache ended (sometimes > a day or more later). > > About seven years ago, I realized that tomatoes and > their biological relatives (the " nightshades " -- > tomatoes, potatoes, onions, eggplant, peppers) could > set off this cycle, so I quit eating them (especially > raw). I also knew that beer could trigger an episode, > and realized it wasn't the alcohol when I drank a > non-alcholic beer while pregnant and got one major > headache (and couldn't take anything that had worked > in the past!). > > My headaches and flushing reduced in number, but never > really disappeared... > > When my biggest rosacea outbreak started this past > fall, and continued through winter, the digestive > connection because even more pronounced (I've written > about this and it's in the archives). I finally > realized that wheat/gluten were at the source of my > troubles. > > When I gave them up, the flushing stopped, my skin > cleared up, my digestive complaints when away, and I > haven't had a headache of any significance since I > gave up gluten in April. > > Please understand this -- I'm not implying that gluten > is causing your headaches, but I do believe this: > > cea patterns that encompass flushing, ringing in > the ears, breakouts, and headache seem to be (by my > observation) more likely to be caused by allergy than > is the chronically-red pattern of rosacea. > > The hard part is figuring out what is setting you off. > > Elminating it is really easy. When people ask me if I > find it hard to avoid gluten (and the nightshades), I > always say " not hardly! " . Moving away from pain and > toward pleasure is completely natural. > > I wouldn't willingly do something I knew might give > skin breakouts, itchy rashes, digestive upsets, and > headaches. It's a no-brainer, and certainly no > tradeoff for something that " tastes good " . > > Suzi > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 In a message dated 8/4/01 6:34:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, evemwilkerson@... writes: > I was curious to know if any others of you suffer from both rosacea and > Yes, I do and I also have Ocular cea. Thorunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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