Re: Skin tests

[Guest guest]

ly, I would give Metrocream or gel or a topical antibiotic a good 16 wk

trial before I submitted to photoderm.

You really must adhere to 2x a day tx--even if the cream stings or irritates

the first week.

It absolutely cleared the papules from my forehead---and did a little

something for the redness.

However, I do believe that the best tx for rosacea is a plain old ASPIRIN.

It does decrease the redness--makes me pale. However, I have not followed my

own advice and taken aspirin consistently every day of my life.

Although, I am now of an age where physicians tout aspirin for heart

troubles. I suppose it decreases inflammmation in blood vessels.

I also have allergies, but not one antihistamine has stopped redness or

flushing. Not Claritian, Zytec, Benadryl or Allegra.

[Guest guest]

Adam,

Good luck on finding out whether or not you really have " rosacea. " I think

the real problem here is that rosacea has come to mean any

red/blotchy/papule skin problem that the doctors don't know what to do with.

I also have this problem. I seldom blush, yet have some kind of skin

problem. My solution was to read as much as I could and find a dermatologist

who was open minded enough to work with me on finding something that kept my

skin problem in check.

Notice this board-so many different things work for so many different

people. One person's solution causes another to flare/break-out.

Best wishes.

Kathy

Skin tests

> Ok, here's a question I do not believe I have ever seen discussed before.

Are there any skin tests that can be done to definitively PROVE someone has

cea? I have always " Known " that I had cea, I had every symptom,

many of them quite severely. Quite recently, the doctor who runs the office

where I got my first photoderm treatment done today told me It lookd like I

maybe didn't have cea, I maybe had allergies. My Dermatologist

diagnosed me with cea and Seborrheic Dermatitis. Just recently I came

across Perioral Dermatitis, and saw pictures that lookd almost exactly like

what I have around my upper lip and chin. I know the recommendation would

be " Go see a Dermatologist " but I'm not impressed with Dermatologists in

general, I am convinced they misdiagnose more often than diagnosing

accurately. I know there is a test they can do to test for Perioral Derm.

I don't know however, if that test can distinguish perioral derm and seb

derm. And I know I can be tested for most allergies. But what I basically

want to know, is are there any tests out there that can DEFINITIVELY tell me

What I have and what I dont? Particularly whether or Not I have rosacea or

just a bunch of other problems that are causing cea-like symptoms? I

guess the best way I know of at the moment is to rule out everything else,

and then if nothing else comes back positive, then I have cea. But I

know I have either Seb or Perioral Derm, and I know I have some form of

allergies. I have done ALOT of Research online of all these conditions,

ESPECIALLY cea (ya I know you're all sittin' there saying well DUH, you

bug us all like 5 times a day!) But I just don't feel I can use any of

this information accurately until I have a better understanding of EXACTLY

what I have!

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> As always, any suggestions would be appreciated

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> Adam

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[Guest guest]

Adam filter@...> wrote:

Ok, here's a question I do not believe I have ever seen discussed before. Are

there any skin tests that can be done to definitively PROVE someone has cea?

I have always " Known " that I had cea, I had every symptom, many of them

quite severely. Quite recently, the doctor who runs the office where I got my

first photoderm treatment done today told me It lookd like I maybe didn't have

cea, I maybe had allergies. My Dermatologist diagnosed me with cea and

Seborrheic Dermatitis. Just recently I came across Perioral Dermatitis, and saw

pictures that lookd almost exactly like what I have around my upper lip and

chin. I know the recommendation would be " Go see a Dermatologist " but I'm not

impressed with Dermatologists in general, I am convinced they misdiagnose more

often than diagnosing accurately. I know there is a test they can do to test for

Perioral Derm. I don't know however, if that test can distinguish perioral derm

and seb derm. And I know I can be tested for most allergies. But what I

basically want to know, is are there any tests out there that can DEFINITIVELY

tell me What I have and what I dont? Particularly whether or Not I have rosacea

or just a bunch of other problems that are causing cea-like symptoms? I

guess the best way I know of at the moment is to rule out everything else, and

then if nothing else comes back positive, then I have cea. But I know I have

either Seb or Perioral Derm, and I know I have some form of allergies. I have

done ALOT of Research online of all these conditions, ESPECIALLY cea (ya I

know you're all sittin' there saying well DUH, you bug us all like 5 times a

day!) But I just don't feel I can use any of this information accurately

until I have a better understanding of EXACTLY what I have!

As always, any suggestions would be appreciated

Adam

Hi,

That is something I would be very interested in finding out too.

[Guest guest]

I agree with Kathy's message when she said " ...rosacea has come to

mean any red/blotchy/papule skin problem that the doctors don't know

what to do with. "

I think in many cases that's true. When some doctor or whoever first

came up with the diagnosis of " cea " it probably did mean one

specific type of skin condition. But over time it's been used as a

diagnosis for many different things, and it seems like the meaning

has been lost. That's why I don't think there will ever be a cure

found for all the different people reporting problems

called " cea " , everyone is just too different with different

symptoms and skin types.

Sorry to sound negative on it but it sure won't happen in our

lifetimes, if at all. I think the best you can do is try to find

something that helps your symptoms, and stick with it. That's where a

group like this can be very helpful, even if somewhat confusing at

times. Some people here have mentioned things that I never would

have thought to try for my symptoms, and certainly were not mentioned

by my doctors. Most didn't help me at all, but a few of them did. And

I found out about Photoderm from people here in the group and Dr.

Nase. Photoderm has been the biggest help for my symptoms. At least

I found something that helps a lot. That in itself feels like success.

Another possible road to take is like Suzi here in the group who

discovered her problem was food allergies. That may indeed be

a " cure " for certain people, but only a limited number of us.

Remember this is just one person's opinion. Not trying to upset

anyone.

> Adam,

> Good luck on finding out whether or not you really have " rosacea. "

I think the real problem here is that rosacea has come to mean any

red/blotchy/papule skin problem that the doctors don't know what to

do with. I also have this problem. I seldom blush, yet have some kind

of skin problem. My solution was to read as much as I could and find

a dermatologist who was open minded enough to work with me on finding

something that kept my skin problem in check.

>

> Notice this board-so many different things work for so many

different people. One person's solution causes another to flare/break-

out.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

I agree with Kathy's message when she said " ...rosacea has come to

mean any red/blotchy/papule skin problem that the doctors don't know

what to do with. "

I think in many cases that's true. When some doctor or whoever first

came up with the diagnosis of " cea " it probably did mean one

specific type of skin condition. But over time it's been used as a

diagnosis for many different things, and it seems like the meaning

has been lost. That's why I don't think there will ever be a cure

found for all the different people reporting problems

called " cea " , everyone is just too different with different

symptoms and skin types.

Sorry to sound negative on it but it sure won't happen in our

lifetimes, if at all. I think the best you can do is try to find

something that helps your symptoms, and stick with it. That's where a

group like this can be very helpful, even if somewhat confusing at

times. Some people here have mentioned things that I never would

have thought to try for my symptoms, and certainly were not mentioned

by my doctors. Most didn't help me at all, but a few of them did. And

I found out about Photoderm from people here in the group and Dr.

Nase. Photoderm has been the biggest help for my symptoms. At least

I found something that helps a lot. That in itself feels like success.

Another possible road to take is like Suzi here in the group who

discovered her problem was food allergies. That may indeed be

a " cure " for certain people, but only a limited number of us.

Remember this is just one person's opinion. Not trying to upset

anyone.

> Adam,

> Good luck on finding out whether or not you really have " rosacea. "

I think the real problem here is that rosacea has come to mean any

red/blotchy/papule skin problem that the doctors don't know what to

do with. I also have this problem. I seldom blush, yet have some kind

of skin problem. My solution was to read as much as I could and find

a dermatologist who was open minded enough to work with me on finding

something that kept my skin problem in check.

>

> Notice this board-so many different things work for so many

different people. One person's solution causes another to flare/break-

out.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Kathy

[Guest guest]

I agree with Kathy's message when she said " ...rosacea has come to

mean any red/blotchy/papule skin problem that the doctors don't know

what to do with. "

I think in many cases that's true. When some doctor or whoever first

came up with the diagnosis of " cea " it probably did mean one

specific type of skin condition. But over time it's been used as a

diagnosis for many different things, and it seems like the meaning

has been lost. That's why I don't think there will ever be a cure

found for all the different people reporting problems

called " cea " , everyone is just too different with different

symptoms and skin types.

Sorry to sound negative on it but it sure won't happen in our

lifetimes, if at all. I think the best you can do is try to find

something that helps your symptoms, and stick with it. That's where a

group like this can be very helpful, even if somewhat confusing at

times. Some people here have mentioned things that I never would

have thought to try for my symptoms, and certainly were not mentioned

by my doctors. Most didn't help me at all, but a few of them did. And

I found out about Photoderm from people here in the group and Dr.

Nase. Photoderm has been the biggest help for my symptoms. At least

I found something that helps a lot. That in itself feels like success.

Another possible road to take is like Suzi here in the group who

discovered her problem was food allergies. That may indeed be

a " cure " for certain people, but only a limited number of us.

Remember this is just one person's opinion. Not trying to upset

anyone.

> Adam,

> Good luck on finding out whether or not you really have " rosacea. "

I think the real problem here is that rosacea has come to mean any

red/blotchy/papule skin problem that the doctors don't know what to

do with. I also have this problem. I seldom blush, yet have some kind

of skin problem. My solution was to read as much as I could and find

a dermatologist who was open minded enough to work with me on finding

something that kept my skin problem in check.

>

> Notice this board-so many different things work for so many

different people. One person's solution causes another to flare/break-

out.

>

> Best wishes.

>

> Kathy