Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Beth, It's a really good question! I'm guessing (that's all any of us are really doing ) that unless people take the food allergy thing really seriously, they don't usually cut out foods that are chemically similar to their allergens, or foods that contain derivatives of their allergens. For example, I know I'm allergic to raw tomatoes -- have been for years. Tomatoes are part of the nighshade family and while I've eaten potatoes (another nightshade) for years without complaint, I find my skin now looks just a smidge better if I avoid potatoes and all of the nightshades. Also, with a wheat/gluten allergy, I have to constantly keep an eye out for things that might make me break out... and let me be clear -- things do " slip through the cracks " and I do flush and break out when that happens. It happened to me two weeks ago when I had a three-business-lunch week. My face is still healing from that. I find food in restaurants to be the hardest to deal with. Corn, for example is in sweetners, citric acid, some vinegars, alcohols, including alcohols in cosmetics, candies, sodas... any number of things... I would say that grains, eggs, and dairy are some of the hardest things to avoid because they show up in so many unexpected places. Don't get me started on bio-engineered foods! Putting fish genes in tomatoes, for example, is just asking for trouble! Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 In a message dated 8/17/01 9:24:21 PM Central Daylight Time, suzi_lebaron@... writes: The other day I was wrecking my brain looking at the label on the cereal box: 'corn flakes, sweetened with organic fruit juice, Gluten Free!' While I know that corn is a grain, and is not recommended, does 'gluten free' exonerate it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2001 Report Share Posted August 18, 2001 , I can't answer that. Remember that I'm not saying everybody should avoid gluten, I'm saying it played a principal role in MY rosacea. A person could be allergic to corn and not wheat or gluten. I've met people who are allergic to both. Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Elena, I didn't go to either, and frankly most MD's don't seem to have a lot of respect for food allergies, recognizing only the " big " life threatening ones. (Although my doctor recognizes the ones that I've told him I've discovered, but I consider him sort of liberal...) They don't seem to realize that sensitivies can happen in degrees and affect our well-being in more subtle ways. I was really lucky. A friend who is a nutritionist suggested that I might have a food allergy because of my sudden onset of numerous seemingly unrelated complaints... I talked to a couple of alternative health practicioners and one of them called wheat-corn-dairy the " holy trinity " of food allergies and suggested it might be one of them. You may have seen posts where I described my allergy to tomatoes, onions, etc. -- especially when raw. Since I've know for years that I have this allergy, I'm familiar with the symptoms... I found that one by simple cause and effect years ago. I always flushed and got bad headaches after eating those foods. I did a little food diary to help with the headaches -- I didn't really realize I was uncovering a category of foods (the " nightshades " ) to which I'm allergic... Anyway, I had started to notice that sometimes I would have a similar reaction after eating a meal without any nightshades -- usually after eating pasta. I had also noticed that my hands sometimes itched when I was handling dough, and my husband (who is a behaviorist) pointed out that I sneezed whenever he made toast... additionally, I had other digestive complaints including heartburn and trouble swallowing... I could swallow a bite of grilled chicken, but not a piece of bread, for example. It would stick in my throat and burn (I now know my throat was swelling slightly). All the arrows were pointing to wheat, so I did a three-week elimination diet and " tested " my reaction to wheat (with a couple of chocolate chip cookies) -- within half an hour I was flushing, oily, sneezing, breaking out with bumps -- the results were so clear! Since that time (April), I've eliminated all gluten, not just wheat, and my health and my skin have steadily improved. So I did it on my own. It seems to be the quickest, most direct way. I really suggest keeping a food diary and I have several posts about it in the archives. Some people feel better when they have a " diagnosis " . I don't put a lot of faith in it. I was " diagnosed " with rosacea, too... Also, to diagnose a gluten allergy, I'd have to go back to eating it for several weeks, and I have no intention of doing that -- the skin problems are troublesome, but the digestive and swallowing problems are really scary. Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Elena, I didn't go to either, and frankly most MD's don't seem to have a lot of respect for food allergies, recognizing only the " big " life threatening ones. (Although my doctor recognizes the ones that I've told him I've discovered, but I consider him sort of liberal...) They don't seem to realize that sensitivies can happen in degrees and affect our well-being in more subtle ways. I was really lucky. A friend who is a nutritionist suggested that I might have a food allergy because of my sudden onset of numerous seemingly unrelated complaints... I talked to a couple of alternative health practicioners and one of them called wheat-corn-dairy the " holy trinity " of food allergies and suggested it might be one of them. You may have seen posts where I described my allergy to tomatoes, onions, etc. -- especially when raw. Since I've know for years that I have this allergy, I'm familiar with the symptoms... I found that one by simple cause and effect years ago. I always flushed and got bad headaches after eating those foods. I did a little food diary to help with the headaches -- I didn't really realize I was uncovering a category of foods (the " nightshades " ) to which I'm allergic... Anyway, I had started to notice that sometimes I would have a similar reaction after eating a meal without any nightshades -- usually after eating pasta. I had also noticed that my hands sometimes itched when I was handling dough, and my husband (who is a behaviorist) pointed out that I sneezed whenever he made toast... additionally, I had other digestive complaints including heartburn and trouble swallowing... I could swallow a bite of grilled chicken, but not a piece of bread, for example. It would stick in my throat and burn (I now know my throat was swelling slightly). All the arrows were pointing to wheat, so I did a three-week elimination diet and " tested " my reaction to wheat (with a couple of chocolate chip cookies) -- within half an hour I was flushing, oily, sneezing, breaking out with bumps -- the results were so clear! Since that time (April), I've eliminated all gluten, not just wheat, and my health and my skin have steadily improved. So I did it on my own. It seems to be the quickest, most direct way. I really suggest keeping a food diary and I have several posts about it in the archives. Some people feel better when they have a " diagnosis " . I don't put a lot of faith in it. I was " diagnosed " with rosacea, too... Also, to diagnose a gluten allergy, I'd have to go back to eating it for several weeks, and I have no intention of doing that -- the skin problems are troublesome, but the digestive and swallowing problems are really scary. Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2001 Report Share Posted November 1, 2001 Has anyone else heard of food allergies and correlating tree pollen allergies. I have been looking around on the internet this afternoon and have come up empty so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2001 Report Share Posted November 2, 2001 We have been discussing food allergies and diet for some time now in our discussion group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group -- Brady Barrows - webmaster for http://www.rosacea-control.com http://www.rosaceadiet.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group > > Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:15:49 -0800 > To: rosacea-support > Subject: Food allergies > > > Has anyone else heard of food allergies and correlating tree > pollen allergies. I have been looking around on the internet > this afternoon and have come up empty so far. > > > > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group > (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html) > > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2001 Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 Yes i read about it on a pharma swedish site, here is the url if you can find a good translator =) http://www.apoteket.se/apoteket/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=239 here is some of it that i could translate... Correlating among tree pollen and food allergies is due to a substance in the pollencorn who give a allergic reaction also can be found in the food. BIRCH POLLEN if u are allergic to birch pollen, probalbly u will react to: - nuts - carrots (raw) - apples, more or less reaction due to different species - plum - peaches - kiwi - apricot - potato (rawskaled) - almond - celery - pears - peanut - spices (anise, cumin, curry-powder and so on). If u cook them and allergic to birch u can problably eat them, but some can get a reaction even after that u cooked them. GRASSPOLLEN grasspollen allergi hardly give correlating reaction to foodsubstances. In rarely cases correlatingreaction among the corns and tomateos. --- becky wattenbach wattenbach@...> wrote: > > Has anyone else heard of food allergies and > correlating tree > pollen allergies. I have been looking around on the > internet > this afternoon and have come up empty so far. _____________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Hi Jim, I didn't know about type IgG mediated food allergies. Here's an article I found that discusses it briefly. http://www.nidr.nih.gov/slavkin/slav0699.asp Do you have any more information on IgG mediated food allergies? I think you probably meant that IgG mediated allergies may trigger rosacea flushes in those who have the disease already. Actually, IgE mediated may probably do so as well. I don't think I have either type of food allergy or food sensitivity. The cause of rosacea, as you know, is damaged blood vessels in the face. Many things, such as heat and extreme cold, can cause these damaged blood vessels to dilate, causing a flush in the face. I also have eczema, have had perioral dermatitis and have had contact dermatitis to many products. I have used Nasalcrom in the past. I found it helpful mostly for my afternoon nose flushes. It didn't seem to help with flushing on the rest of the face though. Take care, Matija > I have read with some interest the recent comments that food allergies are rare and that they likely don't relate to rosacea. I don't agree with that. > > There are 2 types of food allergies. One is IgE mediated. That is an immediate allergic reaction to an offending food such as nuts. This reaction can take the form of hives or another immediate type allergic reaction. I agree that IgE food allergies is probably not the cause of rosacea. > > However, a much more common type of food allergy is the delayed reaction type. A delayed reaction food allergy can cause eczema and can be a cause of rosacea in my opinion. Delayed reaction food allergies are immune responses. They are not mere sensitivities. Rather the IgE mediated, they are IgG mediated. > > I have had multiple allergies for all of my life. Allergic rhinitis (Hay Fever) in the spring and summer, allergies to animals, eczema, and more recently rosacea. > > By the way, has anyone tried Nasalcrom (cromolyn sodium)? It is a non-steroidal nasal spray. It is supposed to be a mast cell stabilizer which means that it prevents the allergic process from starting. I seem to notice some improvement in my rosacea but am not certain that the nasalcrom is helping. I just wonder if anyone else has experience with it. > > Jim Gleason > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2002 Report Share Posted March 19, 2002 Hi Jim, I didn't know about type IgG mediated food allergies. Here's an article I found that discusses it briefly. http://www.nidr.nih.gov/slavkin/slav0699.asp Do you have any more information on IgG mediated food allergies? I think you probably meant that IgG mediated allergies may trigger rosacea flushes in those who have the disease already. Actually, IgE mediated may probably do so as well. I don't think I have either type of food allergy or food sensitivity. The cause of rosacea, as you know, is damaged blood vessels in the face. Many things, such as heat and extreme cold, can cause these damaged blood vessels to dilate, causing a flush in the face. I also have eczema, have had perioral dermatitis and have had contact dermatitis to many products. I have used Nasalcrom in the past. I found it helpful mostly for my afternoon nose flushes. It didn't seem to help with flushing on the rest of the face though. Take care, Matija > I have read with some interest the recent comments that food allergies are rare and that they likely don't relate to rosacea. I don't agree with that. > > There are 2 types of food allergies. One is IgE mediated. That is an immediate allergic reaction to an offending food such as nuts. This reaction can take the form of hives or another immediate type allergic reaction. I agree that IgE food allergies is probably not the cause of rosacea. > > However, a much more common type of food allergy is the delayed reaction type. A delayed reaction food allergy can cause eczema and can be a cause of rosacea in my opinion. Delayed reaction food allergies are immune responses. They are not mere sensitivities. Rather the IgE mediated, they are IgG mediated. > > I have had multiple allergies for all of my life. Allergic rhinitis (Hay Fever) in the spring and summer, allergies to animals, eczema, and more recently rosacea. > > By the way, has anyone tried Nasalcrom (cromolyn sodium)? It is a non-steroidal nasal spray. It is supposed to be a mast cell stabilizer which means that it prevents the allergic process from starting. I seem to notice some improvement in my rosacea but am not certain that the nasalcrom is helping. I just wonder if anyone else has experience with it. > > Jim Gleason > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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