Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Hi , Thanks so much for forwarding 's highly informative reply. There's one area that I'm still unclear about. In a message dated 10/01/2001 4:59:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, asidfsc@... writes: > >if the pH gets high enough (7.4) then the cancer will become > >dormant, and at very high pH it will die. Dr. Brewer's strategy with high pH > >therapy was to get the pH above 7.4 as quickly as possible. > >Therefore, we must strongly disagree with the writer below [Leonard's statement] > > " I still believe it's best for most people w/cancers (other than the types > >listed above) to eat mostly fruits and vegetables (the alkalinizing food > >groups) but not BECAUSE they're alkalinizing, and I certainly wouldn't make > >any artificial efforts to raise my pH if I had cancer. " [note: I wasn't referring to people taking cesium or rubidium] > > People who follow > >this advice will take much longer to reach pH 7.4 and may spend much more > >time in the " high mitosis range " . I assume he's disagreeing primarily w/my statement that " I certainly wouldn't make any artificial efforts to raise my pH... " However, from what (and Boik) writes, it sounds like it is undesirable to increase one's pH unless one approaches 7.4. Boik wrote to me: " I don't believe that diet will change the pH at tumor sites, since the body maintains plasma pH within a very narrow range. Death occurs as the Ph changes appreciably. For this reason, I have never been able to understand the focus that some writers place on the pH of foods, other than that different foods will change the pH of some body fluids, primarily the urine. " Boik acknowledges (as do I) that cesium & rubidium can achieve that high a level, and I support cesium/rubidium therapy (under medical supervision), as I imagine Boik does. But is it realistic to expect to reach a pH close to 7.4 solely from diet or from other measures if one isn't taking cesium or rubidium? If so, exactly what diet and what other measures need to be taken? Moreover, it still sounds to me like it's undesirable to make such an attempt to raise one's pH unless one expects to succeed in getting close to 7.4. And is it realistic and safe to advise cancer patients to attempt that on their own? Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Hi , Thanks so much for forwarding 's highly informative reply. There's one area that I'm still unclear about. In a message dated 10/01/2001 4:59:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, asidfsc@... writes: > >if the pH gets high enough (7.4) then the cancer will become > >dormant, and at very high pH it will die. Dr. Brewer's strategy with high pH > >therapy was to get the pH above 7.4 as quickly as possible. > >Therefore, we must strongly disagree with the writer below [Leonard's statement] > > " I still believe it's best for most people w/cancers (other than the types > >listed above) to eat mostly fruits and vegetables (the alkalinizing food > >groups) but not BECAUSE they're alkalinizing, and I certainly wouldn't make > >any artificial efforts to raise my pH if I had cancer. " [note: I wasn't referring to people taking cesium or rubidium] > > People who follow > >this advice will take much longer to reach pH 7.4 and may spend much more > >time in the " high mitosis range " . I assume he's disagreeing primarily w/my statement that " I certainly wouldn't make any artificial efforts to raise my pH... " However, from what (and Boik) writes, it sounds like it is undesirable to increase one's pH unless one approaches 7.4. Boik wrote to me: " I don't believe that diet will change the pH at tumor sites, since the body maintains plasma pH within a very narrow range. Death occurs as the Ph changes appreciably. For this reason, I have never been able to understand the focus that some writers place on the pH of foods, other than that different foods will change the pH of some body fluids, primarily the urine. " Boik acknowledges (as do I) that cesium & rubidium can achieve that high a level, and I support cesium/rubidium therapy (under medical supervision), as I imagine Boik does. But is it realistic to expect to reach a pH close to 7.4 solely from diet or from other measures if one isn't taking cesium or rubidium? If so, exactly what diet and what other measures need to be taken? Moreover, it still sounds to me like it's undesirable to make such an attempt to raise one's pH unless one expects to succeed in getting close to 7.4. And is it realistic and safe to advise cancer patients to attempt that on their own? Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Hi....Congratulations on little . How wonderful. Glad that she is ok and probably " growing like a weed " ....LOL Also I'm so happy to hear that ph is doing so great. Way to go, ph Keep up the great work. Rhonda in CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Wow - we missed you - glad all is going well, remeber to take care of yourself Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Amy: What a wonderful post. Congratulations!!! And thank you so much for sharing the results you are seeing. I cant wait to hear about the test results! Wow - and it must really take some of the edge off of the post-partum exhaustion seeing all of the changes you are seeing in ph. Also, I am personally encouraged by your message. I am pregnant now (due end of April), and taking many prophylactic measures w/regard to my own gut (including all 3 HNI enzymes), and.coincidentally.I may also be moving a long distance before my next child is a month old. CONGRATULATIONS!!! Josie ph * Hello all. It's been awhile since I've done an update. I gave birth to my second child on December 21st. She was 9 pounds 3 ounces. Her name is . She is absolutely perfect. ph is thrilled to have a little sister, and we feel very blessed. Read as much as I could regarding breastmilk and colostrum during my pregnancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 What about vit c as sago palm? M > > From: " philallen876546 " <phiallen@...> > Date: 2006/04/03 Mon PM 03:17:33 EDT > > Subject: [ ] PH > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 This is fairly irrelevant as far as I know at present unless you have cadmium toxicity as your primary problem. Andy > > Hi, I am chelating with DMSA at the moment but I just came across this > > Giving vitamins in the citrate form can raise ph levels and make the > urine more alkaline, which prevents the chelators from dropping the > metals into the kidneys, a problem you would want to avoid. It can > also be helpful to give Vitamin C in the Ester form, as this also can > raise ph levels. > > At present I do drink kefir, milk and coconut water versions. Does > anyone know what the situation is with things that may be acidic should > you avoid them.? Does that include too much protein etc because all > these things even eating a meal I think will cause the urine to be > alkaline or a while after? > > Thanks > Phil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 I have no idea how it relates to chelation, but I have good reason to believe that excess acidity promotes viral problems and makes one generally more susceptible to infection. -- Michele in Limbo (formerly in California) talithamichele@... Visit Michele's World! http://www.califmichele.com " Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. " -- Albert Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Blood pH has to remain in a small range to support life at the expense of other parts of the body (bones for example having alkaline minerals leeched), but oral pH and urinary pH can deviate quite a bit and here in the south, many of the sick are acid and they should be 6.4 - 6.6 to be in a healthy zone. A salivary pH of 8 is too high and reflects poor digestion although that would be better than a urinary pH of 5.0. Acid pH's are worse than alkaline pH's because the acid pH's indicate chronicity (further down the degenerative highway) and usually the person is in pain. You can only deviate so much in terms of pH in the urine before dying. Saw a lady with 4.5 urinary pH one time, and it took a looong time to get her pH to move even with 50,000 units of D a day, but eventually it did and she lived another 20 years after being almost dead when she came in. Extreme pH deviations are not supportive of life. jp > My opinion is that the oft-spoken phrase, " Cancer cannot exist in an > alkaline body " is quite wrong. > > First of all, the body IS and HAS TO BE alkaline. (7.35-7.45) A > person would die if his body was not alkaline. So everyone who gets > cancer gets it when his/her body IS alkaline. > > Secondly, when the tumor in my neck and jaw was growing day-by-day, I > got my salivary pH up to 8, but the tumor just kept growing. > > I suspect there are plenty of people who have gotten their > salivary/urinary pH to be very alkaline, but who have experienced no > diminution of cancer. > > Let's think about such assertions carefully before passing them on. > They can cause people with cancer to go down wrong and even dangerous > rabbit trails, instead of doing intelligent, determined, milder > things, such as Budwig/Gerson, drinking lots of water, moderate > exercise, good supplements like chlorella, spirulina, blue-green > algae, alfalfa, selenium, curcumin, vitamin D3, etc, destressing > fresh air, sunshine and so forth. > > Best of health, > > Elliot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 PH I do not want to fall deathly ill again I will print this out for my dentist so he can see this was your own personnal experience and the fact you e-mailed me on a personal level - Maybe he will have a re-think his beliefs Much Appreciation, Sandy~ Hi Sandy,I want to caution you about having a regular dentist remove your silver fillings!! Because most dentists don't believe they are dangerous, they don't take the proper precaution in removal and you can become much worse. This happened to me personally. PLEASE, make sure you see a holistic or biological dentist for removal. They believe in taking out the fillings with everyone wearing masks and goggles, providing you with oxygen, and using a vacuum to suck away any harmful vapors. They will also only do one side at a time, lessening the chance of you becoming poisoned from mercury.This is very serious...and definitely worth the expense to go to someone who knows what they are doing and understands the dangers of mercury toxicity.Good luck!Love,PH .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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