IgG sensitivities and healing the gut...

[Guest guest]

I have just gotten the test results for 3 of my kids (ELISA for IgG

sensitivities) and they are frustrating. All are allergic to casein

whether cow or goat, my oldest also spiked very high on eggs & citrus

among other things, and my PDD-NOS child shows some degree of

sensitivity to nearly everything it seems.

I am giving them enzymes in the hopes of minimizing their developing

new food sensitivities as we change their diet, but going without eggs

is even tougher than giving up all forms of cheese & yogurt (soy isn't

an option either). This is pretty new stuff to me so forgive me if

this is a dumb question, but is it possible to heal the gut (I believe

yeast is the main culprit) without eliminating all IgG problem foods?

~Grace

[Guest guest]

Grace,

but is it possible to heal

> the gut (I believe

> yeast is the main culprit) without eliminating all

> IgG problem foods?

I don't think that's possible but check with the

moderators who know more than I.

Just wanted to give you some encouragement. My 2 year

old son is also allergic to eggs, citrus and chicken

and intolerant of cow's and goat's casein. He has been

on SCD for about six months (100% compliant 4 months,

as we eliminated little amounts of illegals in

supplements). We tried the goat yogurt for a few weeks

and found he wasn't ready yet. A plus for him is that

we are still breastfeeding.

What he eats (to give you some ideas): carrots, beets,

spinach, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, different

kinds of squashes, red and green peppers, asparagus,

navy beans, lentils, black beans, peas, grass fed

beef, tomato, onion, garlic, almonds.

Flor

> I have just gotten the test results for 3 of my kids

> (ELISA for IgG

> sensitivities) and they are frustrating. All are

> allergic to casein

> whether cow or goat, my oldest also spiked very high

> on eggs & citrus

> among other things, and my PDD-NOS child shows some

> degree of

> sensitivity to nearly everything it seems.

>

> I am giving them enzymes in the hopes of minimizing

> their developing

> new food sensitivities as we change their diet, but

> going without eggs

> is even tougher than giving up all forms of cheese &

> yogurt (soy isn't

> an option either). This is pretty new stuff to me

> so forgive me if

> this is a dumb question, >

> ~Grace

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:57:12 -0000

>

> Subject: Re: Very Loose Stool - Thank you + two

> more questions!

>

>

> >Hi Everyone,

>

> Thank you for your advice. I think Jody is right, I

> was using way

> too much almond flour. This morning I sucessfully

> made pancakes

> without it and I just baked pumpkin bread using

> unsweetened organic

> coconut instead of the flour (different but tastes

> pretty good and

> my daughter is eating it). Anyway, my dan

> practitioner suggested

> taking out the almond and substituting with pumpkin

> seeds. I only

> tried the coconut because I happened to have and

> can't get seeds

> until the weekend. My questions:

>

> 1 - Are there any other nut flour " substitutes "

> besides the seeds

> and coconut? Can anyone tell me their experience

> with any/all?

>

> The reason I ask is because her two main snacks are

> cookies and

> fruit bread and, like with the nuts, I don't want to

> overuse the

> coconut or seeds either. I guess I could rotate

> depending how seeds

> bake but aren't seeds hard on gut/digestion too?

> I'm also going to

> pull out my food dehydrator and try the veggie chips

> again (I read

> some helpful messages).

>

> 2 - They also want me to try goat yogurt. I have

> the machine and

> starter I just have to get the goats milk. I can

> only find fresh at

> market by my Mom's when we visit this weekend

> however, I did find

> some Meyenberg Evaporated Goat Milk in a can at the

> market near me.

> The ingredients are goat milk and disodium

> phosphate. I'd like to

> know if I can use this??? I could not find

> " disodium phosphate " in

> the book or on web list. I'm thinking no but could

> anyone verify?

>

> Thank you so much!

> Diane (Melody's Mom - 4.5 years old)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Mel,

> >

> > I would have to agree that you need to try to

> remove the almond

> flour

> > for at least a week to see if it makes a

> difference.

> >

> > I realize that the whole idea seems impossible,

> but it's really the

> > only way that you are going to know if it is a

> problem.

> >

> > It sounds to me like she is getting way too much

> almond flour.

> Elaine

>

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[Guest guest]

Grace,

but is it possible to heal

> the gut (I believe

> yeast is the main culprit) without eliminating all

> IgG problem foods?

I don't think that's possible but check with the

moderators who know more than I.

Just wanted to give you some encouragement. My 2 year

old son is also allergic to eggs, citrus and chicken

and intolerant of cow's and goat's casein. He has been

on SCD for about six months (100% compliant 4 months,

as we eliminated little amounts of illegals in

supplements). We tried the goat yogurt for a few weeks

and found he wasn't ready yet. A plus for him is that

we are still breastfeeding.

What he eats (to give you some ideas): carrots, beets,

spinach, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, different

kinds of squashes, red and green peppers, asparagus,

navy beans, lentils, black beans, peas, grass fed

beef, tomato, onion, garlic, almonds.

Flor

> I have just gotten the test results for 3 of my kids

> (ELISA for IgG

> sensitivities) and they are frustrating. All are

> allergic to casein

> whether cow or goat, my oldest also spiked very high

> on eggs & citrus

> among other things, and my PDD-NOS child shows some

> degree of

> sensitivity to nearly everything it seems.

>

> I am giving them enzymes in the hopes of minimizing

> their developing

> new food sensitivities as we change their diet, but

> going without eggs

> is even tougher than giving up all forms of cheese &

> yogurt (soy isn't

> an option either). This is pretty new stuff to me

> so forgive me if

> this is a dumb question, >

> ~Grace

>

>

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:57:12 -0000

>

> Subject: Re: Very Loose Stool - Thank you + two

> more questions!

>

>

> >Hi Everyone,

>

> Thank you for your advice. I think Jody is right, I

> was using way

> too much almond flour. This morning I sucessfully

> made pancakes

> without it and I just baked pumpkin bread using

> unsweetened organic

> coconut instead of the flour (different but tastes

> pretty good and

> my daughter is eating it). Anyway, my dan

> practitioner suggested

> taking out the almond and substituting with pumpkin

> seeds. I only

> tried the coconut because I happened to have and

> can't get seeds

> until the weekend. My questions:

>

> 1 - Are there any other nut flour " substitutes "

> besides the seeds

> and coconut? Can anyone tell me their experience

> with any/all?

>

> The reason I ask is because her two main snacks are

> cookies and

> fruit bread and, like with the nuts, I don't want to

> overuse the

> coconut or seeds either. I guess I could rotate

> depending how seeds

> bake but aren't seeds hard on gut/digestion too?

> I'm also going to

> pull out my food dehydrator and try the veggie chips

> again (I read

> some helpful messages).

>

> 2 - They also want me to try goat yogurt. I have

> the machine and

> starter I just have to get the goats milk. I can

> only find fresh at

> market by my Mom's when we visit this weekend

> however, I did find

> some Meyenberg Evaporated Goat Milk in a can at the

> market near me.

> The ingredients are goat milk and disodium

> phosphate. I'd like to

> know if I can use this??? I could not find

> " disodium phosphate " in

> the book or on web list. I'm thinking no but could

> anyone verify?

>

> Thank you so much!

> Diane (Melody's Mom - 4.5 years old)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Mel,

> >

> > I would have to agree that you need to try to

> remove the almond

> flour

> > for at least a week to see if it makes a

> difference.

> >

> > I realize that the whole idea seems impossible,

> but it's really the

> > only way that you are going to know if it is a

> problem.

> >

> > It sounds to me like she is getting way too much

> almond flour.

> Elaine

>

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__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Grace,

but is it possible to heal

> the gut (I believe

> yeast is the main culprit) without eliminating all

> IgG problem foods?

I don't think that's possible but check with the

moderators who know more than I.

Just wanted to give you some encouragement. My 2 year

old son is also allergic to eggs, citrus and chicken

and intolerant of cow's and goat's casein. He has been

on SCD for about six months (100% compliant 4 months,

as we eliminated little amounts of illegals in

supplements). We tried the goat yogurt for a few weeks

and found he wasn't ready yet. A plus for him is that

we are still breastfeeding.

What he eats (to give you some ideas): carrots, beets,

spinach, green beans, broccoli, cauliflower, different

kinds of squashes, red and green peppers, asparagus,

navy beans, lentils, black beans, peas, grass fed

beef, tomato, onion, garlic, almonds.

Flor

> I have just gotten the test results for 3 of my kids

> (ELISA for IgG

> sensitivities) and they are frustrating. All are

> allergic to casein

> whether cow or goat, my oldest also spiked very high

> on eggs & citrus

> among other things, and my PDD-NOS child shows some

> degree of

> sensitivity to nearly everything it seems.

>

> I am giving them enzymes in the hopes of minimizing

> their developing

> new food sensitivities as we change their diet, but

> going without eggs

> is even tougher than giving up all forms of cheese &

> yogurt (soy isn't

> an option either). This is pretty new stuff to me

> so forgive me if

> this is a dumb question, >

> ~Grace

>

>

>

>

>

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 2

> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 20:57:12 -0000

>

> Subject: Re: Very Loose Stool - Thank you + two

> more questions!

>

>

> >Hi Everyone,

>

> Thank you for your advice. I think Jody is right, I

> was using way

> too much almond flour. This morning I sucessfully

> made pancakes

> without it and I just baked pumpkin bread using

> unsweetened organic

> coconut instead of the flour (different but tastes

> pretty good and

> my daughter is eating it). Anyway, my dan

> practitioner suggested

> taking out the almond and substituting with pumpkin

> seeds. I only

> tried the coconut because I happened to have and

> can't get seeds

> until the weekend. My questions:

>

> 1 - Are there any other nut flour " substitutes "

> besides the seeds

> and coconut? Can anyone tell me their experience

> with any/all?

>

> The reason I ask is because her two main snacks are

> cookies and

> fruit bread and, like with the nuts, I don't want to

> overuse the

> coconut or seeds either. I guess I could rotate

> depending how seeds

> bake but aren't seeds hard on gut/digestion too?

> I'm also going to

> pull out my food dehydrator and try the veggie chips

> again (I read

> some helpful messages).

>

> 2 - They also want me to try goat yogurt. I have

> the machine and

> starter I just have to get the goats milk. I can

> only find fresh at

> market by my Mom's when we visit this weekend

> however, I did find

> some Meyenberg Evaporated Goat Milk in a can at the

> market near me.

> The ingredients are goat milk and disodium

> phosphate. I'd like to

> know if I can use this??? I could not find

> " disodium phosphate " in

> the book or on web list. I'm thinking no but could

> anyone verify?

>

> Thank you so much!

> Diane (Melody's Mom - 4.5 years old)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Mel,

> >

> > I would have to agree that you need to try to

> remove the almond

> flour

> > for at least a week to see if it makes a

> difference.

> >

> > I realize that the whole idea seems impossible,

> but it's really the

> > only way that you are going to know if it is a

> problem.

> >

> > It sounds to me like she is getting way too much

> almond flour.

> Elaine

>

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__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Grace,

> This is pretty new stuff to me so forgive me if

> this is a dumb question, but is it possible to heal the gut (I

believe

> yeast is the main culprit) without eliminating all IgG problem foods?

>

> ~Grace

I think that if you eliminate offending foods then the gut should

heal. The best start is beginning SCD and cutting out illegals.

AFter that eliminate foods which cause gastro distress or obvious

reactions. Unfortunately some tests are not definitive and can give

you false positives or false negatives depending on a myriad of

factors. Many on this list have reported that testing claimed there

were allergies were none existed and other things that they knew to

cause trouble were fine.

If you have specific reasons to believe that yeast is a problem

(thrush, diaper or other rashes etc.) I'd adjust diet accordingly and

work from there.

There is a write up on SCD and yeast in the file section.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

Sheila

[Guest guest]

Hi Grace,

> This is pretty new stuff to me so forgive me if

> this is a dumb question, but is it possible to heal the gut (I

believe

> yeast is the main culprit) without eliminating all IgG problem foods?

>

> ~Grace

I think that if you eliminate offending foods then the gut should

heal. The best start is beginning SCD and cutting out illegals.

AFter that eliminate foods which cause gastro distress or obvious

reactions. Unfortunately some tests are not definitive and can give

you false positives or false negatives depending on a myriad of

factors. Many on this list have reported that testing claimed there

were allergies were none existed and other things that they knew to

cause trouble were fine.

If you have specific reasons to believe that yeast is a problem

(thrush, diaper or other rashes etc.) I'd adjust diet accordingly and

work from there.

There is a write up on SCD and yeast in the file section.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

Sheila