Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 is it just me? or does this list include most foods eaten by humans? " what is left? " is right!!! and why can't we eat most of these because of rosacea?? another question off the topic of food.. i thought i read previously about the allergy medicine claritin being used to control flushing. has anybody used it? what are the results? thanks! syd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 In a message dated 7/13/01 2:39:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, worldandi7@... writes: > > > > > > below is the list of alkalizing/acidifying foods. > question: most of these we cannot eat due to rosacea (I cannot eat > raw fruit or vegetables as they cause stamach pain) > What is left, and do these veggies maintain their properties if > steamed. Congradulations, I believe you have listed every food known to humanity! And hey, don't " dis " the chard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 , I didn't understand your post with the alk/acid list. Are you saying that people with rosacea symptoms shouldn't eat either acidifying or alkalizing foods? Wouldn't that depend on their particular constitution? Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 I take aciphex I have been on this a year now I do not know what I would have done without it. it is an acid pump inhibitor and it helps. I was having horrible stomach distress about a year ago and they did every test and I found out I had acid stomach and acid reflex. I did not eat anything for a week and i was still sick i was scared to eat the thought of drinking vinegar is repulsing to me i will still take my acid pills when i need them and i do not think that choking on a piece of food has anything to do with allergies i do think they can cause stomach upset. however i would not chance choking on food with that natural crap vinegar you could choke to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 In a message dated 7/13/01 1:24:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, suzi_lebaron@... writes: << rosacea-support >> Suzi, I ment the list to illustrate two groups, so we know which is which (e.g. lemon is alkalizing). But many of those listed items are excluded from the allowed food for rasacea sufferes (eggplant, fresh/raw sprouts). I have further questions. One of alkalizing foods is green beens. We are not supposed to eat broad leaf beans due to rosacea. What are they? Can we eat fresh (not dried) green beans. I resumed taking vinegar/honey/water after a long break and am getting quite a bit of pain. Symptom of what ? The list suggests that rice cakes are acidifying food: gluten free rice cereal is essentially the same as rice cakes. Is it? I craved sugar and capitalized on it once -coincidence ot not, I was red. Like a few others, I ordered Zinc O through a pharmacy and it has a lot of warnings, one of them if it gets on your skin, 'contact a physician'. In what proportion do you mix it and, as another post asked, with what - water (I remember somebody said that) or jojba oil? How do you manage to work and take enzymes 45 min prior to meals, vinegar/honey 15 min prior toa meal, etc etc. What do you do at a meeting in a hot room with a projector, lap tops, etc, generating deadly heat? I have not used aloe vera for 2 weeks and have a feeling that redness is brighter. Thanks to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 In a message dated 7/13/01 1:24:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, suzi_lebaron@... writes: << rosacea-support >> Suzi, I ment the list to illustrate two groups, so we know which is which (e.g. lemon is alkalizing). But many of those listed items are excluded from the allowed food for rasacea sufferes (eggplant, fresh/raw sprouts). I have further questions. One of alkalizing foods is green beens. We are not supposed to eat broad leaf beans due to rosacea. What are they? Can we eat fresh (not dried) green beans. I resumed taking vinegar/honey/water after a long break and am getting quite a bit of pain. Symptom of what ? The list suggests that rice cakes are acidifying food: gluten free rice cereal is essentially the same as rice cakes. Is it? I craved sugar and capitalized on it once -coincidence ot not, I was red. Like a few others, I ordered Zinc O through a pharmacy and it has a lot of warnings, one of them if it gets on your skin, 'contact a physician'. In what proportion do you mix it and, as another post asked, with what - water (I remember somebody said that) or jojba oil? How do you manage to work and take enzymes 45 min prior to meals, vinegar/honey 15 min prior toa meal, etc etc. What do you do at a meeting in a hot room with a projector, lap tops, etc, generating deadly heat? I have not used aloe vera for 2 weeks and have a feeling that redness is brighter. Thanks to all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 Stomach cancer can result from GERD (acid reflux). In addition,stomach cancer is linked to eating spoiled food (not so prevalent with refrigeration these days), foods with nitrates/nitrites, alcohol abuse and h. pylori. It's smart to address your GI problems with the acid pump inhibitor. During periods of stress, my stomach hurts, and I have had undigested food come back to my throat. (Sorry to be graphic.) It is very important to take care of this problem because it could turn into something dangerous. I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better now. Take care, Matija > I take aciphex I have been on this a year now I do not know what I would > have done without it. it is an acid pump inhibitor and it helps. I was having > horrible stomach distress about a year ago and they did every test and I > found out I had acid stomach and acid reflex. I did not eat anything for a > week and i was still sick i was scared to eat the thought of drinking vinegar > is repulsing to me i will still take my acid pills when i need them and i > do not think that choking on a piece of food has anything to do with > allergies i do think they can cause stomach upset. however i would not chance > choking on food with that natural crap vinegar you could choke to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 if i dont flare after eating, does that mean the food is safe to eat, or should i avoid certain foods anyway as it aggrevates without me knowing? cant i just eat what i want and only cut out the food that seems to make me flush? thanks Re: alkalizing vs. acidifying foods > In a message dated 7/13/01 1:24:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > suzi_lebaron@... writes: > > << rosacea-support >> > Suzi, > > I ment the list to illustrate two groups, so we know which is which (e.g. > lemon is alkalizing). But many of those listed items are excluded from the > allowed food for rasacea sufferes (eggplant, fresh/raw sprouts). > > I have further questions. > One of alkalizing foods is green beens. We are not supposed to eat broad > leaf beans due to rosacea. What are they? Can we eat fresh (not dried) > green beans. > I resumed taking vinegar/honey/water after a long break and am getting quite > a bit of pain. Symptom of what ? > The list suggests that rice cakes are acidifying food: gluten free rice > cereal is essentially the same as rice cakes. Is it? I craved sugar and > capitalized on it once -coincidence ot not, I was red. > Like a few others, I ordered Zinc O through a pharmacy and it has a lot of > warnings, one of them if it gets on your skin, 'contact a physician'. In > what proportion do you mix it and, as another post asked, with what - water > (I remember somebody said that) or jojba oil? > How do you manage to work and take enzymes 45 min prior to meals, > vinegar/honey 15 min prior toa meal, etc etc. > What do you do at a meeting in a hot room with a projector, lap tops, etc, > generating deadly heat? > I have not used aloe vera for 2 weeks and have a feeling that redness is > brighter. > > Thanks to all > > > > -- > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group. See http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html > > To leave the list send any email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 The easiest thing to do is keep the food/symptom diary. I suggest rating your symptoms on a scale of 1-10 or 1-5... redness, bumps, etc. Make any notations about your mood, or changes in it as well. The reason the diary helps is because it will help you see symptoms that are extended over a period of time. For example, you may flush within 30 minutes to an hour of eating something...then not break out until much later 24-48 hours, even. Looking for these patterns can really help. In the past I've posted lists of foods that people are commonly allergic or sensitive to... I'll dig out the post and post just the list... and then there are also basic things like wheat, corn, and dairy, which are common sensitivies. Ask yourself these kinds of questions -- What do I eat a lot of? Is there something I eat at every meal? Is there something I eat every day? (If your symptoms aren't easing up, these might give you a good clue...) What kinds of foods do I crave, and when? To make this work, you'll need to know what's in your food (for example Kraft's Ranch dressing has something like 35 ingredients), so eating simply will help during the discovery process. Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 The easiest thing to do is keep the food/symptom diary. I suggest rating your symptoms on a scale of 1-10 or 1-5... redness, bumps, etc. Make any notations about your mood, or changes in it as well. The reason the diary helps is because it will help you see symptoms that are extended over a period of time. For example, you may flush within 30 minutes to an hour of eating something...then not break out until much later 24-48 hours, even. Looking for these patterns can really help. In the past I've posted lists of foods that people are commonly allergic or sensitive to... I'll dig out the post and post just the list... and then there are also basic things like wheat, corn, and dairy, which are common sensitivies. Ask yourself these kinds of questions -- What do I eat a lot of? Is there something I eat at every meal? Is there something I eat every day? (If your symptoms aren't easing up, these might give you a good clue...) What kinds of foods do I crave, and when? To make this work, you'll need to know what's in your food (for example Kraft's Ranch dressing has something like 35 ingredients), so eating simply will help during the discovery process. Suzi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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