Dmsa Question

November 7, 2004

Hi again

Which DMSA and ALA brand is recommended?

Thanks

Shirley

February 17, 2009

Keep in mind that 100 mg would be the appropriate starting dose for someone

weighing 800 lbs, max dose for someone weighing 200 lbs. I bet they don't

mention that it should not be taken by individuals with mercury amalgam dental

fillings. They probably also base info on those taking is insufficiently

frequently.

S S

Re: DMSA Question

Posted by: " TJ Werth " tj_werth@... tj_werth

Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:32 pm (PST)

Here is what is stated by Thorne Research for the taking if 100mg capsules:

A patient with chronic heavy metal toxicity may experience a worsening of

symptoms at the onset of supplementation.

Small increases in the excreation of zinc, copper, and manganese may occur with

DMSA administration.

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February 19, 2009

Thanks so much Jan~

ryansmom

________________________________

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:21:16 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Using Andy's low dose protocol can slowly remove those metals without

the problems you saw with high dose DAN protocols.

You can use ala only if you do not feel comfortable with the dmsa.

I have been using low dose AC protocol of dmsa/ala for almost three

years. We also give the vitamins and minerals recommended for the

protocol, and gut support via probiotics and antifungals when needed.

We use very low oral doses to begin with, see how the child does.

Those doses can be lowered even further if there are side effects. It

can also be stopped immediately if there were any problems...though we

have not seen any ourselves. And rarely do we get reports of them on

here. The side effects reported are usually caused by yeast or lack of

supplements. Not the dmsa itself.

It really helps to learn about low dose and understand the chelators,

why they are given this way, the supplements and why those are

given..etc.. .the knowledge helps take the fear out of it.

AGain, you can use alpha lipoic acid only, this is an antioxidant that

will remove some metals, and will take mercury from the brain. It is

an over the counter antioxidant. ..still need to dose it safely

though...which is in the protocol. If you have a child who has a lot

of Lead, then you may need to consider the dmsa too.

>

> From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

>

> Hi ,

> how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> thanks

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Hi

> I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

>

> My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> Thanks,

> in NJ

>

February 19, 2009

Thank you~

ryansmom

________________________________

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:32:00 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

Here is what is stated by Thorne Research for the taking if 100mg capsules:

A patient with chronic heavy metal toxicity may experience a worsening of

symptoms at the onset of supplementation.

Small increases in the excreation of zinc, copper, and manganese may occur with

DMSA administration.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:09:24 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

thank you-

I had such a bad experience with DMSA with a DAN doc in 03' but this poison

needs to come out, it's slowly killing my son. How can one avoid over doing it~

any advice would be so appreciated. I just want my son to get better~ I've never

tried DMSA w/o a doc and i'm a little afraid, but I've been inspired by these

posts, you guys are all so great!

thanks,

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:02:25 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

In the PM, I give it with as little of pineapple juice as I can. (Got a thing

for sugar in ds's mouth while he's sleeping. During the day, I give it in his

drink.

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

Hi ,

how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

thanks

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

Hi

I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with a tracking

delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

My question is that in looking online it is still available for now. However,

some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have any effect on the

affectiveness of the DMSA?

Thanks,

in NJ

February 19, 2009

thank you!

ryansmom

________________________________

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:22:57 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

Just follow the protocol and start out slow. Watch for flu like symptoms or

other signs of intolerance and yeast.

Make sure you give the other supplements and he will be fine.

At these low doses there is no risk of mineral depletion and other issues you

can have with some of the other high dose protocols.

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:09:24 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

thank you-

I had such a bad experience with DMSA with a DAN doc in 03' but this poison

needs to come out, it's slowly killing my son. How can one avoid over doing it~

any advice would be so appreciated. I just want my son to get better~ I've never

tried DMSA w/o a doc and i'm a little afraid, but I've been inspired by these

posts, you guys are all so great!

thanks,

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:02:25 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

In the PM, I give it with as little of pineapple juice as I can. (Got a thing

for sugar in ds's mouth while he's sleeping. During the day, I give it in his

drink.

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

Hi ,

how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

thanks

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

Hi

I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with a tracking

delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

My question is that in looking online it is still available for now. However,

some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have any effect on the

affectiveness of the DMSA?

Thanks,

in NJ

February 19, 2009

pardon my ignorance, does anyone have a recommendation on a good Lipoic Acid or

are they all the same??

thanks,

ryansmom

________________________________

From: Stacee <staceed@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:05:02 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

thank you!

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:22:57 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

Just follow the protocol and start out slow. Watch for flu like symptoms or

other signs of intolerance and yeast.

Make sure you give the other supplements and he will be fine.

At these low doses there is no risk of mineral depletion and other issues you

can have with some of the other high dose protocols.

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:09:24 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

thank you-

I had such a bad experience with DMSA with a DAN doc in 03' but this poison

needs to come out, it's slowly killing my son. How can one avoid over doing it~

any advice would be so appreciated. I just want my son to get better~ I've never

tried DMSA w/o a doc and i'm a little afraid, but I've been inspired by these

posts, you guys are all so great!

thanks,

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:02:25 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

In the PM, I give it with as little of pineapple juice as I can. (Got a thing

for sugar in ds's mouth while he's sleeping. During the day, I give it in his

drink.

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

Hi ,

how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

thanks

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

Hi

I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with a tracking

delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

My question is that in looking online it is still available for now. However,

some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have any effect on the

affectiveness of the DMSA?

Thanks,

in NJ

February 19, 2009

Kirkman is nice. Not as clumpy as some. Solgar is good too.

-- In , Stacee <staceed@...> wrote:

>

> pardon my ignorance, does anyone have a recommendation on a good

Lipoic Acid or are they all the same??

> thanks,

> ryansmom

>

> ________________________________

> From: Stacee <staceed@...>

>

> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:05:02 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> thank you!

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:22:57 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Just follow the protocol and start out slow. Watch for flu like

symptoms or other signs of intolerance and yeast.

> Make sure you give the other supplements and he will be fine.

> At these low doses there is no risk of mineral depletion and other

issues you can have with some of the other high dose protocols.

> TJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:09:24 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> thank you-

> I had such a bad experience with DMSA with a DAN doc in 03' but this

poison needs to come out, it's slowly killing my son. How can one

avoid over doing it~ any advice would be so appreciated. I just want

my son to get better~ I've never tried DMSA w/o a doc and i'm a little

afraid, but I've been inspired by these posts, you guys are all so great!

> thanks,

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:02:25 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> In the PM, I give it with as little of pineapple juice as I can.

(Got a thing for sugar in ds's mouth while he's sleeping. During the

day, I give it in his drink.

>

> From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

>

> Hi ,

> how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> thanks

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Hi

> I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

>

> My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> Thanks,

> in NJ

>

February 19, 2009

thanks,

is it ok to mix DMSa with Orange Juice??

________________________________

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:09:52 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Kirkman is nice. Not as clumpy as some. Solgar is good too.

-- In , Stacee <staceed@... > wrote:

>

> pardon my ignorance, does anyone have a recommendation on a good

Lipoic Acid or are they all the same??

> thanks,

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Stacee <staceed@... >

>

> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:05:02 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> thank you!

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:22:57 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Just follow the protocol and start out slow. Watch for flu like

symptoms or other signs of intolerance and yeast.

> Make sure you give the other supplements and he will be fine.

> At these low doses there is no risk of mineral depletion and other

issues you can have with some of the other high dose protocols.

> TJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:09:24 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> thank you-

> I had such a bad experience with DMSA with a DAN doc in 03' but this

poison needs to come out, it's slowly killing my son. How can one

avoid over doing it~ any advice would be so appreciated. I just want

my son to get better~ I've never tried DMSA w/o a doc and i'm a little

afraid, but I've been inspired by these posts, you guys are all so great!

> thanks,

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:02:25 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> In the PM, I give it with as little of pineapple juice as I can.

(Got a thing for sugar in ds's mouth while he's sleeping. During the

day, I give it in his drink.

>

> From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

>

> Hi ,

> how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> thanks

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Hi

> I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

>

> My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> Thanks,

> in NJ

>

February 19, 2009

does anyone have experience with Andy's protocol with older kids in school? How

does that work?

________________________________

From: Stacee <staceed@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:18:53 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

thanks,

is it ok to mix DMSa with Orange Juice??

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:09:52 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Kirkman is nice. Not as clumpy as some. Solgar is good too.

-- In , Stacee <staceed@... > wrote:

>

> pardon my ignorance, does anyone have a recommendation on a good

Lipoic Acid or are they all the same??

> thanks,

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Stacee <staceed@... >

>

> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:05:02 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> thank you!

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:22:57 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Just follow the protocol and start out slow. Watch for flu like

symptoms or other signs of intolerance and yeast.

> Make sure you give the other supplements and he will be fine.

> At these low doses there is no risk of mineral depletion and other

issues you can have with some of the other high dose protocols.

> TJ

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:09:24 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> thank you-

> I had such a bad experience with DMSA with a DAN doc in 03' but this

poison needs to come out, it's slowly killing my son. How can one

avoid over doing it~ any advice would be so appreciated. I just want

my son to get better~ I've never tried DMSA w/o a doc and i'm a little

afraid, but I've been inspired by these posts, you guys are all so great!

> thanks,

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:02:25 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> In the PM, I give it with as little of pineapple juice as I can.

(Got a thing for sugar in ds's mouth while he's sleeping. During the

day, I give it in his drink.

>

> From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

>

> Hi ,

> how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> thanks

> ryansmom

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

>

> Hi

> I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

>

> My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> Thanks,

> in NJ

>

February 19, 2009

I chelate my 2 kids (9 yrs and 3.5 yrs) from Friday 4pm to Monday 8am.

We are 2.5 yrs into chelation, doing it every week and its been

working great for us.

Hope this helps!

Madhuri

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email

with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for

now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this

have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 19, 2009

you are an angel! thank you...... only weekends......., is that because it can

be done continuously??

yes! that helps me, I want to start this will my 13 yr old

ryansmom

can I ask how much you are dosing? DMSA/ALA , one or the other or both??

________________________________

From: anumandm <anumandm@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:22:29 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

I chelate my 2 kids (9 yrs and 3.5 yrs) from Friday 4pm to Monday 8am.

We are 2.5 yrs into chelation, doing it every week and its been

working great for us.

Hope this helps!

Madhuri

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email

with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for

now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this

have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 19, 2009

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 19, 2009

I've been crying all afternoon Jan, I never knew about ANY of this until very

recently...................I took my son to a very expensive, well known DAN

Doctor and through blood and urine tests it was show that had very high

mercury and some elevated lead toxicity. I pulled out the paper work from

that DAN doc from 04' and she had me giving my terribly sick child 250mg DMSA

3Xday 3 days on 11 days off for 4 cycles. ...........I can't believe it. I can't

stop crying

My dear son was in a diaper for 8 MONTHS straight at the end of this

" treament " ..........tears...................I've spent the last 6 years doing

everything, herbs, homeopathics, and everything in between to try and help my

son. I'm so glad I found this group. Everyone has given up on my son, his dad

decided 5 years ago he didn't want him in his life anymore so I've been doing

this myself. I hope Andy's protocol will help my boy............I hope it's not

to late. My heart sunk when I read about the FDA pulling DMSA off of the

market...................

ryansmom

broken but hopeful

________________________________

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 19, 2009

Still plenty of DMSA out there, don't give up.

Try to focus on helping your son and stay strong.

It's never too late.

Best Wishes and Regards to you and your son,

TJ

________________________________

From: Stacee <staceed@...>

@...

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:16:35 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

I've been crying all afternoon Jan, I never knew about ANY of this until very

recently.... ......... ......I took my son to a very expensive, well known DAN

Doctor and through blood and urine tests it was show that had very high

mercury and some elevated lead toxicity. I pulled out the paper work from

that DAN doc from 04' and she had me giving my terribly sick child 250mg DMSA

3Xday 3 days on 11 days off for 4 cycles. ...........I can't believe it. I can't

stop crying

My dear son was in a diaper for 8 MONTHS straight at the end of this

" treament " ... ........tears. ......... ......... I've spent the last 6 years

doing everything, herbs, homeopathics, and everything in between to try and help

my son. I'm so glad I found this group. Everyone has given up on my son, his dad

decided 5 years ago he didn't want him in his life anymore so I've been doing

this myself. I hope Andy's protocol will help my boy......... ...I hope it's not

to late. My heart sunk when I read about the FDA pulling DMSA off of the

market...... ......... ....

ryansmom

broken but hopeful

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 19, 2009

Thanks so much TJ, with my Dads help, I'm getting some DMSA from VRP tommorrow.

My guy is 94.4 pounds and 13 years old. I'll chelate on the weekends 1/8-1/2 of

a gram per 1lb of body weight every 4 hrs. so that works out to be between

11.8gram-47.2grams.....low and slow.......it's always the best method. Any

pointers or tips anyone can offer to a newbie like myself is SO apprecited~ Has

anyone seen greater benefit to adding equal the amounts of ALA, does anyone have

a thought on ALA vs ®Lipoic Acid which is more active?? Does anyone addVit C

to the regime to support the body during this protocol?? I have excellent

Vit/Min on board as I under standard this process can be minerally depleting.

You guys are great~

warmly,

ryansmom

________________________________

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:26:48 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Still plenty of DMSA out there, don't give up.

Try to focus on helping your son and stay strong.

It's never too late.

Best Wishes and Regards to you and your son,

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

@ groups. .com

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:16:35 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

I've been crying all afternoon Jan, I never knew about ANY of this until very

recently.... ......... ......I took my son to a very expensive, well known DAN

Doctor and through blood and urine tests it was show that had very high

mercury and some elevated lead toxicity. I pulled out the paper work from

that DAN doc from 04' and she had me giving my terribly sick child 250mg DMSA

3Xday 3 days on 11 days off for 4 cycles. ...........I can't believe it. I can't

stop crying

My dear son was in a diaper for 8 MONTHS straight at the end of this

" treament " .. . ........tears. ......... ......... I've spent the last 6 years

doing everything, herbs, homeopathics, and everything in between to try and help

my son. I'm so glad I found this group. Everyone has given up on my son, his dad

decided 5 years ago he didn't want him in his life anymore so I've been doing

this myself. I hope Andy's protocol will help my boy......... ...I hope it's not

to late. My heart sunk when I read about the FDA pulling DMSA off of the

market...... ......... ....

ryansmom

broken but hopeful

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 19, 2009

you are so right!! what pain in the a**~

thanks!!! are you using ALA w/DMSA if you don't mind my asking~

i'm considering it~

ryansmom

________________________________

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 20, 2009

1/8 to 1/2 mg per pound. I'm sure that's what you meant.

It's best to do DMSA alone at least for 8-10 cycles to lower the body burden of

metals before adding ALA.

The reasoning behind this is to make sure the level of metals in the body is

lower than in the brain before adding ALA.

ALA crosses the blood/brain barrier and could possibly move metals into the

brain if they were higher in the body.

Andy's book states " a couple of months " , that's whay I say 8-10 weeks. Some

other folks here might have more information.

TJ

________________________________

From: Stacee <staceed@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:54:03 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Thanks so much TJ, with my Dads help, I'm getting some DMSA from VRP tommorrow.

My guy is 94.4 pounds and 13 years old. I'll chelate on the weekends 1/8-1/2 of

a gram per 1lb of body weight every 4 hrs. so that works out to be between

11.8gram-47. 2grams... ..low and slow.......it' s always the best method. Any

pointers or tips anyone can offer to a newbie like myself is SO apprecited~ Has

anyone seen greater benefit to adding equal the amounts of ALA, does anyone have

a thought on ALA vs ®Lipoic Acid which is more active?? Does anyone addVit C

to the regime to support the body during this protocol?? I have excellent

Vit/Min on board as I under standard this process can be minerally depleting.

You guys are great~

warmly,

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth (DOT) com>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:26:48 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Still plenty of DMSA out there, don't give up.

Try to focus on helping your son and stay strong.

It's never too late.

Best Wishes and Regards to you and your son,

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

@ groups. .com

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:16:35 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

I've been crying all afternoon Jan, I never knew about ANY of this until very

recently.... .......... ......I took my son to a very expensive, well known DAN

Doctor and through blood and urine tests it was show that had very high

mercury and some elevated lead toxicity. I pulled out the paper work from

that DAN doc from 04' and she had me giving my terribly sick child 250mg DMSA

3Xday 3 days on 11 days off for 4 cycles. ...........I can't believe it. I can't

stop crying

My dear son was in a diaper for 8 MONTHS straight at the end of this

" treament " .. . ........tears. ......... ......... I've spent the last 6 years

doing everything, herbs, homeopathics, and everything in between to try and help

my son. I'm so glad I found this group. Everyone has given up on my son, his dad

decided 5 years ago he didn't want him in his life anymore so I've been doing

this myself. I hope Andy's protocol will help my boy......... ...I hope it's not

to late. My heart sunk when I read about the FDA pulling DMSA off of the

market...... ......... ....

ryansmom

broken but hopeful

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 20, 2009

We did it for a while before we found the AC protocol. I don't believe it is as

safe and could cause re-distribution.

It is suppose to be better for lead according to DAN!, but I think you would

need to have pretty high levels of lead to justify it.

DMSA will chelate lead as well.

I know it is tempting to try to get the quick fix, but I don't believe it is out

there.

If you want the big bang, are you on a GFCF diet? This was the biggest, most

noticeable change for us in the beginning.

Fish oil? Supplements?

TJ

________________________________

From: Stacee <staceed@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:00:32 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Has anyone had success with Detoxamin Suppositories? ? How does it compare to

the Andy Protocol??

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:58:17 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

you are so right!! what pain in the a**~

thanks!!! are you using ALA w/DMSA if you don't mind my asking~

i'm considering it~

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 20, 2009

thanks so much for sharing TJ, I know there's no quick fix and I sooooooooooo

glad to have found this community. My boy is metal toxic, mostly mercury. There

Lead and others as well, I have him on excellent liquid vitamins, fish oil,

probiotics, liver life, he is also dairy-free, I had him screened for wheat

allergy and it showed that he's not allergic to it. I'm just so glad to finally

get on the right track here, because it seems as long as the metals are in

there, one will literally chase symptoms indefinetly..........it's very sad

God Bless Andy Cutler.................

________________________________

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:21:18 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

We did it for a while before we found the AC protocol. I don't believe it is as

safe and could cause re-distribution.

It is suppose to be better for lead according to DAN!, but I think you would

need to have pretty high levels of lead to justify it.

DMSA will chelate lead as well.

I know it is tempting to try to get the quick fix, but I don't believe it is out

there.

If you want the big bang, are you on a GFCF diet? This was the biggest, most

noticeable change for us in the beginning.

Fish oil? Supplements?

TJ

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:00:32 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Has anyone had success with Detoxamin Suppositories? ? How does it compare to

the Andy Protocol??

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:58:17 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

you are so right!! what pain in the a**~

thanks!!! are you using ALA w/DMSA if you don't mind my asking~

i'm considering it~

ryansmom

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Jan <mercurybabies2>

Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48:19 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: DMSA Question

Yep I have a 13 yr old who has been doing this since 11 yrs. Also my 6

yr old.

We do this on weekends and on breaks from school. You begin Friday

when they go home and go until Monday am. It is best advised to never

tell school or involve them in this. It can create some real problems

with CPS.

Yes OJ is fine for dmsa.

> >

> > From: Stacee <staceedsbcglobal (DOT) net>

> > Subject: Re: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:49 PM

> >

> > Hi ,

> > how do you give the DMSA? Orally?

> > thanks

> > ryansmom

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: <misheemom (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:59:15 AM

> > Subject: [ ] DMSA Question

> >

> > Hi

> > I ordered my DMSA through VRP on Friday and I recieved an email with

> a tracking delivery #. So I'm getting it and stocking up as well.

> >

> > My question is that in looking online it is still available for now.

> However, some of it has Vitamin C and another vitamin. Will this have

> any effect on the affectiveness of the DMSA?

> > Thanks,

> > in NJ

> >

February 20, 2009

thanks TJ~

pardon my ignorance but can you tell me what exactly is a " cycle " . The DAN Doc

had me giving the DMSA for 3 days that 11 days off for " 1 cycle " , does that

sound right? I plan to do this on the weekends as my sweetie is in school during

the week.

~I just want to tell everyone how amazing you all are. As a mom, finding this

group has been an answer to my prayers!!!!

warmly,

ryansmom

________________________________

From: TJ Werth <tj_werth@...>

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:14:24 AM