Are we doing diet correctly?(lots of Questions)

[Guest guest]

>

> First, I must thank anyone who takes the time to answer these questions.

> My son(asd 3.5yo) has been scd for 7 weeks. We have made it past the

> holidays so I am looking forward to not being a constant wreck from

> doing it. Most of my frustration comes from going to great effort to

> purchase the correct items and then worrying are they really legal. For

> example I purchased honey at Costco at a great price. It says 100% and

> clear in color but then I read something on this site that Bee is

> the only one we know for sure. I made tomato sauce from knudsen tomato

> juice is that OK? What about Welch's tomato Juice? We are also

> concerned about him having too many nuts. I try to limit it but

> sometimes the only way to get him through a meal is the promise of a

> treat at the end. I also feel like he must be so hungry. How can he

> be filling up on the few veggies he eats and protein. Also, we want to

> switch him to white grape juice(phenol concerns). Is welch's OK? It has

> sulfites. So then which one? I guess I've been storing all this up.

> Thanks again everyone.

Muir Glen tomato juice appears to be legal. Heinz and campbels' tomato juice are

legal

What brand of honey?

Welch's white grape is fine.

Why no fruit?

How many nuts or how much nut flur are you giving/

Carol F.

[Guest guest]

Can you tell us exactly what he's eating right now?

Did you start with the intro diet?

The white grape juice is fine, unless he reacts negatively to

sulfites. You could also try pineapple juice, which is low in phenols.

As for the honey, I just look for US honey that just has honey as the

ingredient.

I usually buy from a local honey farm that has their products in our

HFS. But I've also bought honey in the grocery store as well.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

costco honey is legal

linymom39 linymom39@...> wrote: First, I must thank anyone who takes the

time to answer these questions.

My son(asd 3.5yo) has been scd for 7 weeks. We have made it past the

holidays so I am looking forward to not being a constant wreck from

doing it. Most of my frustration comes from going to great effort to

purchase the correct items and then worrying are they really legal. For

example I purchased honey at Costco at a great price. It says 100% and

clear in color but then I read something on this site that Bee is

the only one we know for sure. I made tomato sauce from knudsen tomato

juice is that OK? What about Welch's tomato Juice? We are also

concerned about him having too many nuts. I try to limit it but

sometimes the only way to get him through a meal is the promise of a

treat at the end. I also feel like he must be so hungry. How can he

be filling up on the few veggies he eats and protein. Also, we want to

switch him to white grape juice(phenol concerns). Is welch's OK? It has

sulfites. So then which one? I guess I've been storing all this up.

Thanks again everyone.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

The costco honey is Dutch Gold.

Typical day for my 3 1/2 yo 41 lb. son

diluted juice 60 H20/ 40 juice

midas waffle(pecan flour)

2 prunes/handful raisins

1/2 banana

applesauce -small amt for taking supps

school lunch bag(Don't know when he eats what exactly)

water bottle

banana

box raisins(really small one)

fresh pineapple (sometimes doesn't eat)

applesauce(often comes home uneaten)

zucchinni muffin(alm flour)or peanut butter brownie

Thermos w/poultry/Steak and baby carrots(some always comes home)

pork rinds(small amount)

50/50 juice portion

after school

I try to offer fruit/veg usually break down and give more banana or

1/2 waffle or muffin depends on what I see he ate at school/breakfast.

This is a really hard part of the day. He comes home very tired from

a long school day and I haven't seen him all day. I want a positive

environment to work on interacting with him.

dinner

protein

veggies

last night i made stir fry sometimes eggs/spinach

tonight I'm roasting chicken and trying to make butternut squash fries

He usually seems hungry because although he has been willing to eat

some veggies he will not fill up on them. We literally sit and feed

them to him. I try to offer pears, oranges. He will have one bite

and then be done.

Sometimes a pineapple juice pop.

over the weekend I made Beef Stew w/ a gravy entirely of veggies to

put over other veggies as a sauce. He liked it but didn't eat a

large portion.

Sorry to write so much, but he often wakes early(5am). this moring

he climbed in our bed and announced " i'm hungry " . This of course is

wonderful but I'm constantly anxiety ridden. Why won't he eat soup?

Too many bananas? Too much nut flour? Too many eggs? Am I starving

him?

If I can't get my little one to fill up on veggies am I doing it all

wrong?

Thanks. I guess if I'm in this for the long haul I want to do it

correctly. We did do the intro diet but with a little fruit. As far

as his previous condition I didn't see him as having gasto issues(no

pain or bowel problems)but after starting general dietary

intervention he did have die-off and definately has gluten

sensitivity. I often wonder if that means his leaky gut will heal

faster.

Thanks for the input.

[Guest guest]

I make the peanut butter brownies but, I put zucchini in it too. Ground up

and cooked without the seeds or skin. Will your son eat meatballs? I would

stick some veggies in his baked goods at least. Try it but, don't let him

see what you are doing:) Jenn & Kali Lessard 7 months scd

Re: Are we doing diet correctly?(lots of Questions)

> The costco honey is Dutch Gold.

>

>

> Typical day for my 3 1/2 yo 41 lb. son

>

> diluted juice 60 H20/ 40 juice

> midas waffle(pecan flour)

> 2 prunes/handful raisins

> 1/2 banana

> applesauce -small amt for taking supps

>

> school lunch bag(Don't know when he eats what exactly)

> water bottle

> banana

> box raisins(really small one)

> fresh pineapple (sometimes doesn't eat)

> applesauce(often comes home uneaten)

> zucchinni muffin(alm flour)or peanut butter brownie

> Thermos w/poultry/Steak and baby carrots(some always comes home)

> pork rinds(small amount)

> 50/50 juice portion

>

>

> after school

>

> I try to offer fruit/veg usually break down and give more banana or

> 1/2 waffle or muffin depends on what I see he ate at school/breakfast.

> This is a really hard part of the day. He comes home very tired from

> a long school day and I haven't seen him all day. I want a positive

> environment to work on interacting with him.

>

> dinner

>

> protein

> veggies

> last night i made stir fry sometimes eggs/spinach

> tonight I'm roasting chicken and trying to make butternut squash fries

> He usually seems hungry because although he has been willing to eat

> some veggies he will not fill up on them. We literally sit and feed

> them to him. I try to offer pears, oranges. He will have one bite

> and then be done.

> Sometimes a pineapple juice pop.

> over the weekend I made Beef Stew w/ a gravy entirely of veggies to

> put over other veggies as a sauce. He liked it but didn't eat a

> large portion.

>

> Sorry to write so much, but he often wakes early(5am). this moring

> he climbed in our bed and announced " i'm hungry " . This of course is

> wonderful but I'm constantly anxiety ridden. Why won't he eat soup?

> Too many bananas? Too much nut flour? Too many eggs? Am I starving

> him?

>

> If I can't get my little one to fill up on veggies am I doing it all

> wrong?

>

> Thanks. I guess if I'm in this for the long haul I want to do it

> correctly. We did do the intro diet but with a little fruit. As far

> as his previous condition I didn't see him as having gasto issues(no

> pain or bowel problems)but after starting general dietary

> intervention he did have die-off and definately has gluten

> sensitivity. I often wonder if that means his leaky gut will heal

> faster.

>

> Thanks for the input.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay.

I went back and looked at your first post. You said that your son has

been on SCD for 7 weeks. It's way too soon for dried fruit. The

prunes and raisins are too difficult for him to digest.

Remove raisins and prunes from breakfast.

For lunch, I would probably not send the " treat " because you aren't

there to reinforce him eating the regular food first. I don't see you

mentioning that the treat ever comes home uneaten.

Also, remove raisins. I am not a big fan of pork rinds just because

of the reality of what they are. Either baked or fried pork fat.

Also, given his size, you are probably sending WAY too much food for

him for lunch. You will get a lot of it back uneaten every day if you

send too much food. (If I sent you 3 Big Macs and 2 orders of fries,

a lot of it would come back uneaten too...LOL.)

I would really think about what he WILL eat and send about 300-400

calories worth of things he does like. That will ensure that he eats

enough without you wasting a lot of food.

Since you are wanting a positive eating experience with him when he

comes home from school, I would save the brownie or muffin to give him

as his snack when he gets home from school. Along with 1/2 banana,

that would make a really nice snack.

Dinner seems short on carbs. I don't see any fruit or juice listed

with dinner. It could be that you are serving high carb veggies (but

you didn't mention which veggies.)

Here are some ideas. If he likes sweet food, make him a squash pie.

Let him eat that for dessert with dinner. It will provide calories,

carbs and a sweet ending to his meal.

Nut products have a lot more calories than you probably think that

they do. One peanut butter brownie (about 2x2) has 150 calories.

Same thing for a muffin. The waffles are high in calories too.

Have you ever used fitday.com? Please go there and input his daily

intake and post what you get to the list. List separately the baked

goods that you don't know the calorie count for. I'll try to help

you. Between now and when you post his intake, I'll look up how many

calories he needs a day. But I do need to know his height, weight,

exact age (years and months) and his activity level (very active,

active, low active, couch potato).

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

>

> The costco honey is Dutch Gold.

>

>

> Typical day for my 3 1/2 yo 41 lb. son

>

> diluted juice 60 H20/ 40 juice

> midas waffle(pecan flour)

> 2 prunes/handful raisins

> 1/2 banana

> applesauce -small amt for taking supps

>

> school lunch bag(Don't know when he eats what exactly)

> water bottle

> banana

> box raisins(really small one)

> fresh pineapple (sometimes doesn't eat)

> applesauce(often comes home uneaten)

> zucchinni muffin(alm flour)or peanut butter brownie

> Thermos w/poultry/Steak and baby carrots(some always comes home)

> pork rinds(small amount)

> 50/50 juice portion

>

>

> after school

>

> I try to offer fruit/veg usually break down and give more banana or

> 1/2 waffle or muffin depends on what I see he ate at school/breakfast.

> This is a really hard part of the day. He comes home very tired from

> a long school day and I haven't seen him all day. I want a positive

> environment to work on interacting with him.

>

> dinner

>

> protein

> veggies

> last night i made stir fry sometimes eggs/spinach

> tonight I'm roasting chicken and trying to make butternut squash fries

> He usually seems hungry because although he has been willing to eat

> some veggies he will not fill up on them. We literally sit and feed

> them to him. I try to offer pears, oranges. He will have one bite

> and then be done.

> Sometimes a pineapple juice pop.

> over the weekend I made Beef Stew w/ a gravy entirely of veggies to

> put over other veggies as a sauce. He liked it but didn't eat a

> large portion.

>

> Sorry to write so much, but he often wakes early(5am). this moring

> he climbed in our bed and announced " i'm hungry " . This of course is

> wonderful but I'm constantly anxiety ridden. Why won't he eat soup?

> Too many bananas? Too much nut flour? Too many eggs? Am I starving

> him?

>

> If I can't get my little one to fill up on veggies am I doing it all

> wrong?

>

> Thanks. I guess if I'm in this for the long haul I want to do it

> correctly. We did do the intro diet but with a little fruit. As far

> as his previous condition I didn't see him as having gasto issues(no

> pain or bowel problems)but after starting general dietary

> intervention he did have die-off and definately has gluten

> sensitivity. I often wonder if that means his leaky gut will heal

> faster.

>

> Thanks for the input.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

I am new to the SCD, but we have been GFCF for 4 years--with life

changing and amazing results. It has saved our son from a life of

dependency and has had a huge impact on my multiple sclerosis.

It is painful to watch our kids sad eyes (pizza and cake and ice cream

parties!). Ben, 16, is now not tempted in the least. He is so

disciplined and has accepted this way of life. Our goal is to ensure

that he is never hungry when he is away from home. This was an

adjustment, but we made it, and we can withstand the most awesome food

if we are not hungry.

He is emotionally adjusting to the SCD, but there is still some grief

at the loss of his beloved rice, potatoes and the occasional soda. We

have great hope that he will be healed. And this is our motivation.

My mom thought (we have 3 teenagers) to you is to love him as you do,

and worry less about his choices over lunch. Seems to me that 3

things in his lunch is plenty. Too many choices means more time for

looking/choosing and less time for consuming. Most kids have a

thermos or sandwich, fruit, and some little fun treat thing. I would

ask the person overseeing the lunches to insure that he gets first

things first. It may take a bit of time to work a routine, but this

is what most " normal " kids are made to do in preschool and elementary

school. But, if you ever eat lunch with him, as I did from time to

time, you will see that 3/4's of their luch is trash. Really.

In our case, our kids are sick and their food is their medicine.

We eat to live and not live to eat. In our society it is so much more

difficult, but the principle is the same. Our kids will be stronger

when we convey this truth to them. I know our son is--he is a

wonderful kid. Your little guy is developing tremendous discipline.

If you think you are proud now, wait till you see him continue to

overcome adversity--joy beyond words. Beyond words.

Lorraine

P.S. Kind of long I know. I am so grateful for the GFCF and now SCD

that my joy is pouring all over my face! I am seeing the results in

my son and hope that everyone can experience this too.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jody. I finally found something to measure him with 40.5 inches 40

pds(generally HYPOactive but school keeps him moving as do we on the

weekends). I looked it up and it says 1240 calories. Jell-o is out--

he has always hated it. I had some success with peaches(trader

joe's frozen) I guess alot of my confusion is that there are things

that are legal but there are alot of caveats. Are bananas OK?

peas? green beans? He never has more than 2 bananas(I try to buy

small ones)but I was watching the Dan WEBcast and the SCD discussion

said " no bananas " . I feel like I'm going around in circles. I want

to do this correctly if we are doing it already. I have cut down the

treats and removed the dried fruit. This week for the first time he

is going downstairs early when he wakes up and he is dragging over

the chair to investigate the cabinets. This of course makes me feel

like he is hungry. I am determined to stick with this but I was

hoping to feel a little less frustrated.

>

> The dried fruit really isn't a good idea this early into the diet.

It

> is a LOT harder to digest.

>

> Try to look at this in a different way. I know it's hard. But

take a

> look at the list of foods that he CAN have and try to come up with

fun

> ways to serve them.

>

> You can cut fruit into shapes with cookie cutters. You can make

knox

> blox (gelatin) and cut them into shapes.

>

> Make him some quarter sized cookies and pack them in his lunch so

that

> he is getting a dessert.

>

> I know it all seems overwhelming. But that old addage of " looking

at

> the glass half full " will go a long way as well as making lemonade

> from lemons. This diet may seem like a " lemon " to you, taking the

fun

> out of his eating experience. But really sit back and look at all

of

> the things he CAN have and pretend you get paid $100 for every

> creative way to serve the food that you can come up with.

>

> As for other high carb, easy-to-digest foods: avocados, mangos,

> peaches, papaya, pears.

> You can make smoothies, popsicles, " pudding " (see recipes for orange

> and green pudding on pecanbread.com).

>

> The hard part is to think " outside the box " , both figuratively and

> literally (moving away from box mixes and pre-packaged foods).

>

> Just take a deep breath and say " I think I can, I think I can, I

think

> I can " .

>

>

> Also, I still need his exact age, height and the other info I asked

> for to be able to determine how many calories he needs per day.

>

>

> Jody

> mom to -7 and -9

> SCD 1/03

>

[Guest guest]

The DAN! webcast that spoke about SCD said " No Bananas " ???

That's not true. Ripe bananas are allowed on SCD. Some kids react

negatively to them, but I think there is at least one ASD kid that

reacts negatively to every substance but air and water.

Can you point me to where I can listen to this broadcast? Or can you

send me the file?

Send it to my personal e-mail box, not to the list.

momtobandj @ bluemarble.net (remove spaces).

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03

[Guest guest]

How many years and months old is he?

I just input 3 years, 6 months (maybe I am remembering wrong). Please

correct me.

It said 1488 calories for the height and weight you gave.

Jody

mom to -7 and -9

SCD 1/03