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>Hello all,

>As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and was

>diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a daily basis

>and is sick most of the time. I told her about not drinking and trying to

>quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as not that big a deal.

>Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big bottle

>of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do I have to

>say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks are going to be

>you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and you are right. I

>just cannot give up on her though. Is there any reading out there that

>says if you DON " T stop drinking you will die??? I need a copy.

>I would appreciate any input!

>Thanks,

>Lanie

>

>

>

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>Hello all,

>As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and was

>diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a daily basis

>and is sick most of the time. I told her about not drinking and trying to

>quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as not that big a deal.

>Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big bottle

>of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do I have to

>say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks are going to be

>you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and you are right. I

>just cannot give up on her though. Is there any reading out there that

>says if you DON " T stop drinking you will die??? I need a copy.

>I would appreciate any input!

>Thanks,

>Lanie

>

>

>

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> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big

bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do

I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks

are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and

you are right. I just cannot give up on her though. Is there any

reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking you will

die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big

bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do

I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks

are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and

you are right. I just cannot give up on her though. Is there any

reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking you will

die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big

bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do

I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks

are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and

you are right. I just cannot give up on her though. Is there any

reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking you will

die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big

bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do

I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks

are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and

you are right. I just cannot give up on her though. Is there any

reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking you will

die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits

almost on a daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her

about not drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs

it off as not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who

won't help themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on

her though. Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T

stop drinking you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

Lanie,

Here's one site:

http://www.fin.ucar.edu/procedures/sec1/proc1112_appendix.ht

ml

If you go to " Google " and type in pancreatitis, alcohol, die, and

death you can find a lot of information. Statistics say that about

350 people die each year from alcohol-related pancreatitis.

There is a lot of information out there that is available.

You might have a heart to heart with your father, also, since he is

the one buying the wine. He's only contributing to the problem

and he needs to be aware that this continual vomiting and

sickness is just being aggravated more and more by the

drinking.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth

South Carolina

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits

almost on a daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her

about not drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs

it off as not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who

won't help themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on

her though. Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T

stop drinking you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

Lanie,

Here's one site:

http://www.fin.ucar.edu/procedures/sec1/proc1112_appendix.ht

ml

If you go to " Google " and type in pancreatitis, alcohol, die, and

death you can find a lot of information. Statistics say that about

350 people die each year from alcohol-related pancreatitis.

There is a lot of information out there that is available.

You might have a heart to heart with your father, also, since he is

the one buying the wine. He's only contributing to the problem

and he needs to be aware that this continual vomiting and

sickness is just being aggravated more and more by the

drinking.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth

South Carolina

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply, Ellen. I will look into that article. I plan on making

copies of a few things you all have been so kind to share and give them to her.

Unfortunately, her doctor sucks. He hasn't sat her down to talk ANYTHING over.

Any info she knows is what I have researched myself. We are looking into

another doctor.

Thanks again,

Lanie

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big

bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do

I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks

are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and

you are right. I just cannot give up on her though. Is there any

reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking you will

die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply, Ellen. I will look into that article. I plan on making

copies of a few things you all have been so kind to share and give them to her.

Unfortunately, her doctor sucks. He hasn't sat her down to talk ANYTHING over.

Any info she knows is what I have researched myself. We are looking into

another doctor.

Thanks again,

Lanie

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another big

bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the world do

I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the comebacks

are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help themselves and

you are right. I just cannot give up on her though. Is there any

reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking you will

die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Hiedi. I am sorry to admit speaking with my dad about this will do no

good. If he tells her no or didn't go and do it, it would just cause horrible

fighting and I am quite sure he will avoid it. This is something I think only I

and my siblings can work out with her. Hopefully, the fact that she may not be

able to see her grandchildren grow will be reason enough.

Thanks again,

Lanie

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits

almost on a daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her

about not drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs

it off as not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who

won't help themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on

her though. Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T

stop drinking you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

Lanie,

Here's one site:

http://www.fin.ucar.edu/procedures/sec1/proc1112_appendix.ht

ml

If you go to " Google " and type in pancreatitis, alcohol, die, and

death you can find a lot of information. Statistics say that about

350 people die each year from alcohol-related pancreatitis.

There is a lot of information out there that is available.

You might have a heart to heart with your father, also, since he is

the one buying the wine. He's only contributing to the problem

and he needs to be aware that this continual vomiting and

sickness is just being aggravated more and more by the

drinking.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth

South Carolina

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Hiedi. I am sorry to admit speaking with my dad about this will do no

good. If he tells her no or didn't go and do it, it would just cause horrible

fighting and I am quite sure he will avoid it. This is something I think only I

and my siblings can work out with her. Hopefully, the fact that she may not be

able to see her grandchildren grow will be reason enough.

Thanks again,

Lanie

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits

almost on a daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her

about not drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs

it off as not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who

won't help themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on

her though. Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T

stop drinking you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

Lanie,

Here's one site:

http://www.fin.ucar.edu/procedures/sec1/proc1112_appendix.ht

ml

If you go to " Google " and type in pancreatitis, alcohol, die, and

death you can find a lot of information. Statistics say that about

350 people die each year from alcohol-related pancreatitis.

There is a lot of information out there that is available.

You might have a heart to heart with your father, also, since he is

the one buying the wine. He's only contributing to the problem

and he needs to be aware that this continual vomiting and

sickness is just being aggravated more and more by the

drinking.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth

South Carolina

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

Lanie,

in case I didn't say so earlier, Welcome to the group. I'm a

little behind in welcoming people to the group.

Glad to have you here, sorry your mother is having panc

problems.

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

[Guest guest]

Lanie,

in case I didn't say so earlier, Welcome to the group. I'm a

little behind in welcoming people to the group.

Glad to have you here, sorry your mother is having panc

problems.

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your kind welcome!

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

Lanie,

in case I didn't say so earlier, Welcome to the group. I'm a

little behind in welcoming people to the group.

Glad to have you here, sorry your mother is having panc

problems.

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your kind welcome!

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

Lanie,

in case I didn't say so earlier, Welcome to the group. I'm a

little behind in welcoming people to the group.

Glad to have you here, sorry your mother is having panc

problems.

Kimber

--

Kimber

Vallejo, CA

hominid2@...

Southwest Representative

Pancreatitis Association, International

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the

comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her though.

Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking

you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the

comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her though.

Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking

you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Brett,

Your timing is perfect, actually. I just talked to mom yesterday about what I

have read on here as far as diet and NO alcohol and she has quite the attitude!

She feels the dr. should have found and fixed this 10 years ago and since he

didn't, well she isn't about to stop living her life and enjoying things for the

sake of a broken down pancreas!

Really sucky attitude. I guess I need to just adjust my own to be prepared for

anything with her. Other wise I will probably just die from the stress of all

this and everything else. It makes me very mad and annoyed at her selfish

attitude. All this from a woman who says she doesn't want to die. I think I

don't believe her.

Thank you,

Lanie

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the

comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her though.

Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking

you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Brett,

Your timing is perfect, actually. I just talked to mom yesterday about what I

have read on here as far as diet and NO alcohol and she has quite the attitude!

She feels the dr. should have found and fixed this 10 years ago and since he

didn't, well she isn't about to stop living her life and enjoying things for the

sake of a broken down pancreas!

Really sucky attitude. I guess I need to just adjust my own to be prepared for

anything with her. Other wise I will probably just die from the stress of all

this and everything else. It makes me very mad and annoyed at her selfish

attitude. All this from a woman who says she doesn't want to die. I think I

don't believe her.

Thank you,

Lanie

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the

comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her though.

Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking

you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Brett,

Your timing is perfect, actually. I just talked to mom yesterday about what I

have read on here as far as diet and NO alcohol and she has quite the attitude!

She feels the dr. should have found and fixed this 10 years ago and since he

didn't, well she isn't about to stop living her life and enjoying things for the

sake of a broken down pancreas!

Really sucky attitude. I guess I need to just adjust my own to be prepared for

anything with her. Other wise I will probably just die from the stress of all

this and everything else. It makes me very mad and annoyed at her selfish

attitude. All this from a woman who says she doesn't want to die. I think I

don't believe her.

Thank you,

Lanie

Re: Question regarding Alcohol

> Hello all,

> As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years and

was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off as

not that big a deal.

> Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy another

big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of the

comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her though.

Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop drinking

you will die??? I need a copy.

> I would appreciate any input!

> Thanks,

> Lanie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lanie

There will come a time...almost like a " window of opportunity " when

she gets really sick(and she will) that she will make the

decision about living or dying ...she may well be like me and need

to have " it " all on the line before she responds...acting like you

don't care if you die is no where near

as frighting as having it really about to happen. Some people need

this happen before they can progress. Some call it hitting rock

bottom!!! but its more like being hit by a freight train because

your standing to close to the edge of the platform..you Know its

dangerous but your still surprised when it happens.

Great description ..really sucky attitude...sums it up perfectly.

You don't need the stress or distress that goes with it..look after

yourself

Brett

> > Hello all,

> > As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and

> was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

> daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

> drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off

as

> not that big a deal.

> > Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy

another

> big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

> world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the

> comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

> themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her

though.

> Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop

drinking

> you will die??? I need a copy.

> > I would appreciate any input!

> > Thanks,

> > Lanie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lanie

There will come a time...almost like a " window of opportunity " when

she gets really sick(and she will) that she will make the

decision about living or dying ...she may well be like me and need

to have " it " all on the line before she responds...acting like you

don't care if you die is no where near

as frighting as having it really about to happen. Some people need

this happen before they can progress. Some call it hitting rock

bottom!!! but its more like being hit by a freight train because

your standing to close to the edge of the platform..you Know its

dangerous but your still surprised when it happens.

Great description ..really sucky attitude...sums it up perfectly.

You don't need the stress or distress that goes with it..look after

yourself

Brett

> > Hello all,

> > As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and

> was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

> daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

> drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off

as

> not that big a deal.

> > Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy

another

> big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

> world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the

> comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

> themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her

though.

> Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop

drinking

> you will die??? I need a copy.

> > I would appreciate any input!

> > Thanks,

> > Lanie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lanie

There will come a time...almost like a " window of opportunity " when

she gets really sick(and she will) that she will make the

decision about living or dying ...she may well be like me and need

to have " it " all on the line before she responds...acting like you

don't care if you die is no where near

as frighting as having it really about to happen. Some people need

this happen before they can progress. Some call it hitting rock

bottom!!! but its more like being hit by a freight train because

your standing to close to the edge of the platform..you Know its

dangerous but your still surprised when it happens.

Great description ..really sucky attitude...sums it up perfectly.

You don't need the stress or distress that goes with it..look after

yourself

Brett

> > Hello all,

> > As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and

> was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

> daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

> drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off

as

> not that big a deal.

> > Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy

another

> big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

> world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the

> comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

> themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her

though.

> Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop

drinking

> you will die??? I need a copy.

> > I would appreciate any input!

> > Thanks,

> > Lanie

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Lanie

There will come a time...almost like a " window of opportunity " when

she gets really sick(and she will) that she will make the

decision about living or dying ...she may well be like me and need

to have " it " all on the line before she responds...acting like you

don't care if you die is no where near

as frighting as having it really about to happen. Some people need

this happen before they can progress. Some call it hitting rock

bottom!!! but its more like being hit by a freight train because

your standing to close to the edge of the platform..you Know its

dangerous but your still surprised when it happens.

Great description ..really sucky attitude...sums it up perfectly.

You don't need the stress or distress that goes with it..look after

yourself

Brett

> > Hello all,

> > As I shared before, my mom has been quite ill for a few years

and

> was diagnosed with Chronic Pancreatitis. She vomits almost on a

> daily basis and is sick most of the time. I told her about not

> drinking and trying to quit smoking. I think she shrugs it off

as

> not that big a deal.

> > Well, I just found out that she just had dad go and buy

another

> big bottle of wine. She is a nightly wine drinker. What in the

> world do I have to say to make her stop??? I know a majority of

the

> comebacks are going to be you cannot help someone who won't help

> themselves and you are right. I just cannot give up on her

though.

> Is there any reading out there that says if you DON " T stop

drinking

> you will die??? I need a copy.

> > I would appreciate any input!

> > Thanks,

> > Lanie

> >

> >

> >