Re: some more questions from me...to

[Guest guest]

> Also, Heidi, she wanted me to ask you about the diet ideas you

sent.

> I printed off some things for her that I found on the internet

about

> a pancreas diet and she seemed to feel the ideas you sent

seemed more

> restrictive than what I had printed off for her. Is the stuff found

> on the internet just not strict enough or is there a reason yours

is

> a little more strict?

>

> Thanks for putting up with my questions.

>

>

,

I'm not sure what the diets for pancreatitis you found on the

internet consist of. I know when I first got this last year I looked

there and couldn't find anything that came close to what my

doctor recommended and what I learned on my own that I could

tolerate. Much of it is based on experience. I thought it was

pretty good and flexible....one just has to learn to like no or low

fat! But maybe others can tolerate more, this is just what works

for me. I've printed this out before for others, and it's identical to

ReeAnnn's suggestions that she posted a few weeks back (I

teased her then that we could move in together and not have to

change a thing!)

Maybe if you could post or send the diet information you found on

the Internet, we could look at that and see if anyone has any

suggestions about it.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth - SC

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

> Also, Heidi, she wanted me to ask you about the diet ideas you

sent.

> I printed off some things for her that I found on the internet

about

> a pancreas diet and she seemed to feel the ideas you sent

seemed more

> restrictive than what I had printed off for her. Is the stuff found

> on the internet just not strict enough or is there a reason yours

is

> a little more strict?

>

> Thanks for putting up with my questions.

>

>

,

I'm not sure what the diets for pancreatitis you found on the

internet consist of. I know when I first got this last year I looked

there and couldn't find anything that came close to what my

doctor recommended and what I learned on my own that I could

tolerate. Much of it is based on experience. I thought it was

pretty good and flexible....one just has to learn to like no or low

fat! But maybe others can tolerate more, this is just what works

for me. I've printed this out before for others, and it's identical to

ReeAnnn's suggestions that she posted a few weeks back (I

teased her then that we could move in together and not have to

change a thing!)

Maybe if you could post or send the diet information you found on

the Internet, we could look at that and see if anyone has any

suggestions about it.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth - SC

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi. Thanks for your reply. Here is the link to the diet I

printed off for her that I found on the internet.

http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/units/osuhosp/patedu/homedocs.pdf/nut-

diet.pdf/nut-othe.pdf/restrict.pdf

She only mentioned one thing in specific that you had mentioned that

she felt seemed stricter than what I printed off and that was eggs.

She said you mentioned the egg ... hmmm... ok, I can't remember now

what it's called...but egg substitute instead of regular eggs and the

diet I printed said you could have eggs.

Anyway, I think she is just wanting to follow what diet will help her

better so I'm guessing she'll want to probably follow one (yours)

that has been tried and tested rather than one out of a text book.

She was just wondering if maybe you had a stricter diet than most or

if the one I printed off for her wasn't strict enough.

I know she was very thankful for the messages you guys sent that I

took up to her.

The doctor FINALLY come in today and they are going to do another CAT

scan tomorrow and see what's going on. But because she is feeling so

good, they are talking about letting her go home and have a home

health nurse for a bit. They are thinking maybe she has a cyst.

I'll let you know what we hear.

I want to thank you for the support you guys have been so far!

Nothing like talking to people that have btdt to really help you see

things a little more clearly!

[Guest guest]

Hi Heidi. Thanks for your reply. Here is the link to the diet I

printed off for her that I found on the internet.

http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/units/osuhosp/patedu/homedocs.pdf/nut-

diet.pdf/nut-othe.pdf/restrict.pdf

She only mentioned one thing in specific that you had mentioned that

she felt seemed stricter than what I printed off and that was eggs.

She said you mentioned the egg ... hmmm... ok, I can't remember now

what it's called...but egg substitute instead of regular eggs and the

diet I printed said you could have eggs.

Anyway, I think she is just wanting to follow what diet will help her

better so I'm guessing she'll want to probably follow one (yours)

that has been tried and tested rather than one out of a text book.

She was just wondering if maybe you had a stricter diet than most or

if the one I printed off for her wasn't strict enough.

I know she was very thankful for the messages you guys sent that I

took up to her.

The doctor FINALLY come in today and they are going to do another CAT

scan tomorrow and see what's going on. But because she is feeling so

good, they are talking about letting her go home and have a home

health nurse for a bit. They are thinking maybe she has a cyst.

I'll let you know what we hear.

I want to thank you for the support you guys have been so far!

Nothing like talking to people that have btdt to really help you see

things a little more clearly!

[Guest guest]

> She said you mentioned the egg ... hmmm... ok, I can't

remember now

> what it's called...but egg substitute instead of regular eggs and

the

> diet I printed said you could have eggs.

,

I'll look at the diet you sent in a few minutes. I just wanted to

comment on the eggs first. One regular size egg has about 9

grams of fat, that's why I used egg whites or an egg substitute.

I'll get back with you later on the rest, okay?

That's good news that they are going to let her go home.

Sometimes that helps a lot, just getting on home ground again,

and I know she's been really anxious to get out.

I'll be back in touch.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth - SC

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

> She said you mentioned the egg ... hmmm... ok, I can't

remember now

> what it's called...but egg substitute instead of regular eggs and

the

> diet I printed said you could have eggs.

,

I'll look at the diet you sent in a few minutes. I just wanted to

comment on the eggs first. One regular size egg has about 9

grams of fat, that's why I used egg whites or an egg substitute.

I'll get back with you later on the rest, okay?

That's good news that they are going to let her go home.

Sometimes that helps a lot, just getting on home ground again,

and I know she's been really anxious to get out.

I'll be back in touch.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth - SC

hhessgriffeth@...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

,

I went to the Ohio State Restricted Diet for Pancreatitis and

Gallbladder diseases. I can't say that what they recommend is

really very much different than what I suggested. They permit a

higher amount of fat grams daily (30), than my recommendation

of 20 or less. My GI recommended this for me and I do know that

if I go over it, I start hurting. Others may be different. The only

other variations from the list I sent you were their allowance of

lean red meats, eggs and enriched white bread.

My doctor recommended staying away from red meats, namely

beef and lamb and their by-products, and that seemed best for

me. I do eat lean pork (tenderloin or loin) in moderate amounts

on occasion, but that is probably the only " meat " , other than

chicken, turkey or seafood. I do use ground turkey, turkey

sausage, turkey bacon and turkey keilbasa for dishes calling for

those types of beef. Eggs I stay away from mainly due to the fat

content, and the Ohio State program says to limit eggs to one

per day. My problem is, I can't eat just one egg, wish I could, but

with eggs, I like them fried sunny side up or scambled best, so

that would be at least two, so I use the egg beaters instead. The

rest of the time that I would use eggs is usually in a recipe that

calls for eggs, with baking and such, and the egg substitutes

work just as well. I've even made low-fat Key Lime Pie using the

substitutes and fat-free sweetened condensed milk and no one

has known the difference. As far as the white bread goes, I read

in one of our pancreatitis resource materials that the enriched

white bread wasn't good for the pancreas, and I personally prefer

an oatmeal or bran or grain bread, so that's what I use.

I don't think Myrna will have much of a problem with this after

she's had some practice. She'll quickly learn what works for her

and what doesn't. There's really a lot you can do, and I've

learned to be really creative and still keep it within my

restrictions, yet flavorable enough that everyone else enjoys it,

too. I've got anywhere from 2 to 6 people that I cook for every

night, and I only cook ONE meal. The diner closed down here a

long time ago---they get what I cook! One or two nights a week is

beef night when I'll crank up the grill outside for steaks or some

good BC sausage, on those nights I grill fish for myself.

My son also gave me the large family size Foreman

Grilling Machine. That gets used all year round and is very

versatile and healthy. It would be a great gift for anyone who is

watching their fat intake.

I hope this helps.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth - SC

hhessgriffeth@h...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

,

I went to the Ohio State Restricted Diet for Pancreatitis and

Gallbladder diseases. I can't say that what they recommend is

really very much different than what I suggested. They permit a

higher amount of fat grams daily (30), than my recommendation

of 20 or less. My GI recommended this for me and I do know that

if I go over it, I start hurting. Others may be different. The only

other variations from the list I sent you were their allowance of

lean red meats, eggs and enriched white bread.

My doctor recommended staying away from red meats, namely

beef and lamb and their by-products, and that seemed best for

me. I do eat lean pork (tenderloin or loin) in moderate amounts

on occasion, but that is probably the only " meat " , other than

chicken, turkey or seafood. I do use ground turkey, turkey

sausage, turkey bacon and turkey keilbasa for dishes calling for

those types of beef. Eggs I stay away from mainly due to the fat

content, and the Ohio State program says to limit eggs to one

per day. My problem is, I can't eat just one egg, wish I could, but

with eggs, I like them fried sunny side up or scambled best, so

that would be at least two, so I use the egg beaters instead. The

rest of the time that I would use eggs is usually in a recipe that

calls for eggs, with baking and such, and the egg substitutes

work just as well. I've even made low-fat Key Lime Pie using the

substitutes and fat-free sweetened condensed milk and no one

has known the difference. As far as the white bread goes, I read

in one of our pancreatitis resource materials that the enriched

white bread wasn't good for the pancreas, and I personally prefer

an oatmeal or bran or grain bread, so that's what I use.

I don't think Myrna will have much of a problem with this after

she's had some practice. She'll quickly learn what works for her

and what doesn't. There's really a lot you can do, and I've

learned to be really creative and still keep it within my

restrictions, yet flavorable enough that everyone else enjoys it,

too. I've got anywhere from 2 to 6 people that I cook for every

night, and I only cook ONE meal. The diner closed down here a

long time ago---they get what I cook! One or two nights a week is

beef night when I'll crank up the grill outside for steaks or some

good BC sausage, on those nights I grill fish for myself.

My son also gave me the large family size Foreman

Grilling Machine. That gets used all year round and is very

versatile and healthy. It would be a great gift for anyone who is

watching their fat intake.

I hope this helps.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi

Heidi H. Griffeth - SC

hhessgriffeth@h...

Southeastern Representative

Pancreatitis Association, Intl.

[Guest guest]

Thanks yet again Heidi. I will keep this information and get it to mom.

Again, I'm sure she will appreciate it very much.

[Guest guest]

Thanks yet again Heidi. I will keep this information and get it to mom.

Again, I'm sure she will appreciate it very much.